http://www.pcgamer.com/pc-build-gui de-budget-gaming-pc/ &g

>>388206281
>cucknadian leafybucks
lmao

Le coin Jews stole all the good (read as AMD) GPUs.

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I'm on a tight budget, will this do?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kHTwBP

>>388207067
yes, that's a great budget build, however I would replace the 1 x 8gb ram for 2 x 4gb for better performence

>>388206368
Yeah the 1070 prices are still high on some sites, hence why it's showing as 1000+ $, one could probably get it for around 500-700CDN now if i had to guess

>Made the mistake of posting this while the half life shit is going on

fuck.

>>388206281
I am the retard trying to build 1st PC and got showed this like a few hours ago. rip.

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>>388206281
g4560 isn't bad for a budget build, but why they paired it with a fucking 1070 is beyond me.

I'm building a "budget" pc whenever i get my refund check, gonna go with a ryzen 3 and 1050 ti until i can upgrade to a 1600x and 1060 a few months down the line. Just gonna get the basics, I'll add a ssd and more ram after i upgrade my cpu and gpu

pic is my build

>>388206281
the g4560+1050ti/570 is an optimal budget gaming machine
unless you can get a ryzen 3 cheaper

>>388207364
Bullshit. The mobo only has 2 slots for the RAMs so if in the future he needs to upgrade he would have to buy 2x8 GB instead of only one.

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>>388206281
>intel in a budget build
>2 cores in 2017
>gtx 1070

Fair enough, though 2 x 4gb does get better performance

Just upgraded my shit from parts from 2008.

MSI 970A mobo
FX-8370 chip
GTX 1060 3GB OC'd
8GB DDR3-16000
500gig SSD

Ran me about 500 bucks. Running everything on Ultra now, shit looks cash money. Now to abuse the fuck out of this shit for a decade. Maybe another 8 gigs of ram on my next paycheck, the ram was going for like 60 bucks for 8 gigs.

>>388206281
all the good journalists post on /g/ and /v/ now and instead of covering pc gaming they cover the shady business practices of megatech, and donald trump happenings.

>>388206281
>275gb SSD and no normal hard drive
>1070
""""""""budget""""""""
Why not a fucking i3/5 and a 1060? Or are prices for that too inflated?

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>>388209103

>>388209051
That cpu won't last you a decade it's already 5 years old with worse perf than 2010 phenoms. You should have bought a ryzen.

t. fell for the fx cpu meme

>>388206281
Wouldn't R5 1600 + GTX 1060 6gb be better? Or even an R3 1200/1300x + 1070

>>388209283
I had a Phenom II X3 2.4ghz anything was an upgrade, and the 8370 was balls cheap. If that one only lasts 5 years I'm okay.

>>388209429
Oh and also I have that same motherboard, it has garbage vrms so I hope you don't intend to overclock at any point.

>>388207067
I personally hate micro motherboards.

>>388209520
The chip OC's from 4.0ghz to 4.3, I wasn't planning on it. It's not really that big of a performance boost for the extra strain on the parts.

>>388209520
All things considered too, it ran me like 540 after tax and shit, and I upgraded from;

Biostar TA790 AM2+ mobo
Phenom II X3 2.4ghz
GTX 260 Super OC 1gb
Segate Blue 500gb hd (now is extra storage with new parts)
4GB DDR2

I put that setup together back in 2008, and it's served me till last week when I got the new shit.

>>388209784
It should be fine but you'll definitely notice the bad fps in cpu heavy stuff.

>>388209283
Also also, the difference between the 8370 avs a Ryzen 5 1400 was much bigger when running the 1080, but with the 1060 it's barely noticeable, for about 100 dollars less.

>>388206281
>pentium
Fucking stupid. Get a low end Ryzen at that price or go used.
>1070
Massive bottleneck with that Pentium, rather go for a 480 or 1060 depending on your brand loyalty, goyim.
>SSD
Waste of money. Go for a normal 1tb WD, Hitachi or Toshiba drive.
>case
It's alright but you can get an okay case for 15 bucks less.
>assrawk b250m
I don't know about that.
>GSkill "GAMER" ram
pointless, waste of money. Always go for the cheapest RAM at a decent speed.
>some budget PSU
Seems okay but you might want to go higher for a build like that.

>>388210119
I've been playing Fallout4 on Ultra 1080 and there was some rain when I was in a fire-fight vs like 15 enemies (Super Mutans Vs Raiders vs Institute vs me) that yeah I dropped to like 25fps at one point, I saw. Typically the game stays at like 53-60fps. The rain really fucked it up.

However Nier Automata I haven't seen drop below 40fps.

>>388210145
Ryzen is more expensive, even the cheapest.

>>388206281
there is no budget pc gaming. you shouldnt be in pc gaming if you cant afford a good rig.

>WHAT THE FUCK BRO MY 2GB 580 CANT RUN ANYTHING

>>388210290
But the Pentium is 5 years old and dual core. It's 2017 folks come on.

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>>388210121
Whoopse, not sure why it didn't attach before.

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>pentium with 1070
what the fuck

>>388210145
>>SSD
>Waste of money.

Stopped reading right there. Don't ever give "advice" to anyone.

>>388210462
It is a waste of money if you intend to go budget. If you have money to spend on your fast 0.80$ per gig shit then go right ahead but it's a waste of money if you intend to save it.

>>388210448
Holy shit, what's the deal with that 2core pentium?

>>388210462
if you're going for a "budget" build, SSDs aren't priority, and a 1TB HDD is better for storing more games, 7200rpm is also faster than most modern consoles hard drives

>>388208486
You might aswell use that for at least a year then upgrade to zen2 and volta 1160

>>388210772
The 1060 really doesn't require a lot out of the CPU, hence why I made the choices I made.

>>388210772
Probably on a non cpu intensive game

Something like bf1 the 2500k will run away

>>388210772
Hybberthreddin :D

>>388210836
What the ever living fuck is wrong with you people. I have like 7 games installed on my computer currently and I have 250 GB still available of my half-TB SSD. I mean do you keep like fucking 15 games installed at all times?

>>388207067
1050ti is fucking great, dont worry

>>388210973
Enjoy your stuttering corelet.

>>388211016
>I mean do you keep like fucking 15 games installed at all times?
Yes. I have about 30 games installed at this moment, granted a lot of them are older titles.

>>388211039
t. i don't know anything about computers

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>>388206281
maybe it was generated
it really doesn't look like something someone put together even half-wittedly

>>388211150
Fuck outta here man. That's stupid AF. If I haven't played it in like two months, there's no reason for it to be on my computer.

>>388210973
I get stutters on a 6500, you need at least a 6600k

>>388210462
tbf it is a waste of money for a budget build, especially if you've never used one so you wouldnt know what you're missing. Just save up some money for a few months and then add a ssd

>>388211201
>t. intel shill

>>388211351
>want to play game again
>oops gotta wait 5 hours for it to download

>>388211351
But I'm not retarded enough to buy a SSD and my gigabytes cost about $0.06 and I have 350 gigs to spare.

>>388211451
I mean in general, christ. Even on my old system of non SSD I still only had 500gb and I never fucking filled it once.

>>388211039
Still better experience than a fucking Fx or pentium

2500k 4.8 here it runs smooth locked to 75fps, uncapped it stutters

>>388211371
6600k is not much faster than a 2500k

Like maybe 15% faster at the same clocks, and they both clock to near 5ghz

>>388211649
G4560 probably works just like the old i5, most games requires 4 threads and not 4 real cores

>>388206281
G4560+GTX1070 is the perfect budget build. It has no trouble with 4k gaming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha2Dbu_EBT0

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>>388210862
I might. This is my first build so i'm a noob at this stuff. I don't necessarily care about running every game on ultra at 60 fps cuz I've mostly been a console peasant until just a few years ago when I made the retarded decision to buy a prebuilt "gaming" pc. Pic related if you want to laugh at my ignorance.

Will the 1200 and 1050 ti be able to run most games at medium settings at 30+ fps for the foreseeable future?

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>>388211016
>>388211646

With the size of games nowadays you can easily have a 60gb+ game which will take up a quarter of your SSD, large HDDs are pretty much necessary.

>pic related. my HDD games folder

>>388212140
Enjoy your bottleneck

>>388212140
Pairing a G4560 with a GTX1070 is still stupid, for 4k the GPU is the bottleneck and not the CPU

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Can I get decent opinions on this?

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-AG3-605-UR39-Dedicated-Graphics/dp/B00L6AXCO4/ref=pd_ybh_a_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=EJPRQM1F9TE0Q4AEH189

My friend is giving me his since he just built his own PC and I'm not the best with these sort of things. Can I put a 1060/70/80 in this, and more importantly, will it run Minecraft?

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>>388211016
I have ADD when it comes to gaming. I'm constantly switching from one game to the next. Then i have a bunch of games installed that I haven't finished and i feel obligated to keep them installed until i complete them.

I also have a lot of porn.

>>388212215
>>388212229
Is there a site that can check builds for bottleneck?

>Can I put a (graphics card) in this
If it's a desktop pc the answer is always yes, if it's a laptop the answer is always no. So yes, yes you can.

>Will it run minecraft
You need SLI titanXPs to run minecraft sorry

>>388211351
Congrats faggot, you're normal. Go update your facebook.

>>388212760
https://lmgtfy.com/?iie=1&q=cpu+1080p+and+4k+benchmarks

>>388212860
I will while I stream some Dragon Ball Super and play Clash Royale. :3

>>388212603
1: more then likely, yes, 1060/70/80 draw about as much power as a 770 IIRC
2: yes

>>388212760
If you CPU is much weaker or stronger than your GPU you will have a bottleneck

>>388212941
>7700 bottlenecking 1070 at 1440p

No

>>388211649
>2500k 4.8 here
Do you live in Antarctica?

>>388213263
Yeah, I know the definition, but measure of that "much" is vague.

>>388211016
I used to years ago, but then you rarely get round to playing anything. I went full autist and almost bought a 4tb HDD just so I could install my entire steam library.

Nowadays I only keep 5~ games installed. No point keeping a game installed because its good and you might play/replay it in a year or two

>>388206281

>not just browsing craigslist for a gaming rig some poorfag overspent on and needs to sell just to live

there are so many stupid kids who overspend on rigs and then need to sell them fast, at a major loss, to make due. take advantage of their stupidity, you're doing them a favor by teaching them a lesson in fiscal responsibility.

>>388206281
>1000 maplebucks
>bought the same GPU for 600 kiwibucks
what the fuck? I thought GPUs were expensive here.

>>388212169
Ryzen 1200 and 1050ti is fine for 1080p 60fps on medium/high on latest games easily.

If you do choose to go zen2 + 1160 (which will probably be around 1080 perf) you'll be able to max everything that comes out next year

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>>388207067
Consider MSI 1050ti gaming x

a budget pc setup shouldn't have/need a monitor beyond 1080p, it's stupid go higher than 1060 6gb
a 1070 starts being worth it at 1440p

>>388213371
UK, its been at that speed since I got it in 2011 I just replace the thermal paste once every year.

Sandybridge doesnt use toothpaste like recent Intel cpus.

>>388213828
How how does it get?

>>388213372
it depends on the game. aside from obvious mismatches there is no way to determine this in a vacuum

>>388213975
about 65c max on air under 100% load in games like bf1/civilization 6, using hyper 212

>>388214228
What about stress tests?

>>388208486
Get 1x 8gb ram or a motherboard with more slots in case you need more ram
The one you picked only has 2 ram slots
That mother board seems expensive anyway. You can get better motherboards for 80-90$

>>388214364
not sure my man I dont run anything more stressful than gayming

sandybridge is known to be pretty cool though compared to ivybridge and forward, check some online benchmarks

>>388214369
>getting 1x ram
>ever
shut the fuck up

>>388206281
>a 1070 is $1070

LOVIN EVERY LAUGH

>>388213569

Craigslist can have some crazy deals. Here's one from my area going for $525

Specs:
>LPX Vengeance 16GB @3000MHz RAM KIT
>GTX 1060 6GB VR-Ready GPU
>MSI SLI PLUS X370 Motherboard
>Ryzen 5 1600 @3.7GHz
>EVGA 600w 80+ PSU
>120GB SSD
>1 TB HDD
>BRAND NEW BUILD

Some guy was selling an i7 7700k with 32 gb RAM and TWO 1080 ti's for just $1,000 a few months back. Apparently he was a pro csgo player and was moving into a team house that provided every team member a pc so he wanted to just get rid of his rig asap. Wish i would have had the money to buy it at the time. Could have sold one of the 1080's and paid basically next to nothing for it.

>>388214601
you can also get a mugging and a stab wound for free
what a deal

>>388212215
>Large HDDs are pretty much a necessity
Fuck load times. SSD is so much better, even if you only have 500GB it's so worth it to not deal with waiting.

>G4560 paired with a 1070
There's no fucking way that wasn't done for shits and giggles.

>buying this pc for

what for?
literally im wondering why are you spending money to buy 1070

list 5 games for me

>>388214601
>2nd hand parts
no thanks. only time I got a 2nd hand was my 980 and that's because it was free

Make sure to get the geek squad technical experts to wire it for you otherwise you could be electrocuted when you open the box.

"safety of mind has no price" is my motto.

>>388214750
2nd hand gpus are worth it with the current state of the market

970 will easily do 1080p comfortably until volta/navi for cheap

>>388214747
what?

>>388214741
But what if it doesn't bottleneck?

>>388214369

I'm new to building pcs so I just picked a random mobo with wifi that was compatible. I've heard bad things about only one stick of ram though but noone's actually ever explained why. I may just go 2x8

>>388214953
>2x8
That'll cost you an extra 40$, and 8gb 2x4 should be enough

>>388214953
One ram stick is bad because there's the chance of your ram going bad and then you're fucked and can't do anything until you get new ram whereas with two sticks if one goes bad you can still use the pc with the other good stick.

>>388214915
Name 5 recent games here the Pentium won't choke before the 1070 does.

>>388212792
Not always true. Yes, you can put a graphics card in a desktop, but you also have to look at your power supply

>>388214680
If that manlet Linus hasn't been mugged yet I'll take my chances.

>>388214915
it will, heavily

t. 4690k and 980ti user, bottlenecked in some games

>>388214953
>>388215105
One stick is bad because of single channel vs dual channel. look it up, you're literally getting half the bandwidth with one stick compared to two

>>388214750
I'll be honest idk shit about used pc parts. That PaulsHardware guy seemed to think that buying used gpus and cpus is a pretty safe bet. But what do i really know about Paul? I guess my thinking is that if the seller is willing to demo the pc/parts for me before i buy it and there are no issues, what's the harm?

>>388206281
1070 = 1000 $
top kek
crypto faggot are retarded people

>>388215505
Do you not overclock or something? I'm not bottlednecked and I have the same thing but my cpu is at 4.4Ghz and I never dip frames or anything. My games always run at atleast 120fps on high to max.

>>388215593
Ok thanks, I'm new to this so any advice is appreciated.

>>388206281
PCgamer was always shit.

>>388215689
with a 980ti aswell? in shit like bf1 the cpu is 100% usage meanwhile the gpu usage is 50-80%.

same thing in deus ex md, prey, total war warhammer, hell even gta 5 has microstutter

>>388206281

Prices of GPU are bloated. From 2010 to 2017, I always advocated that anons get a strong beefy GPU and an okay budget CPU. Very few games rely on the CPU all that much and the difference from a $1000cpu and a $200 would be less then 10FPS.

With the rise of crypto currency came the rise of GPU prices. Prices are 60% higher and then some. In this current market, CPU > GPU, get a cheap GPU then upgrade when the prices reach sane levels again.

>>388215919
yes with the same gpu, no microstutters or anything, not even 100% cpu usage. What's your cpu speed at?

>>388215938
what I find funny is that price/performance has gone nowhere in the last 3 years

3 years ago could get a 970/290 for under $300, today you can get a 1060 6gb or if you're lucky a 580 under $300 which are basically the same performance

>>388216007
4.2... im starting to think the issue is my budget 2x4gb 1333mhz ram

ddr3 1866+ is expensive though, might aswell get a ryzen + ddr4 at that point

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>>388209051
Same. Upgraded from a 2500k and a 280x to a 3770 and rx 470. Parts cost me about 300 in total because I bought the cpu used on ebay. Sold my old parts for about 200 so really everything ended up costing me about 100. Can play everything on ultra or very close to ultra now.
And they say pc gaming is expensive.

>>388215938
>Strong GPU
>Budget CPU

Changing GPU is easy as shit, just swap the cards. Swapping CPUs require more than just swapping shit, you may have to buy a whole new motherboard and RAM to match it.
ALWAYS get a CPU that can last you for years. Bottlenecking won't even become a concept for you.

>>388213372
because it entirely depends on an application you use - some games (mmo, those faggoty real army simulators with big worlds and loads of independently moving objects) require more CPU calculations than the others.

Bottleneck is a meme that needs to fuck off and die.

>>388216424
>CPU that can last you for years
That's only some pretty expensive intel cpu.

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>>388210462

It's 100% without a doubt, a waste of money. Games are so big, we're hitting 150gb games already. The advantage of the SSD is downplayed by better modern CPUs. When I went from a Black WD to an SSD, the only difference I noticed was the boot time. My boot time went from 20secs to 9secs. Faster, but 11secs difference is a yawn and a nut scratch. Now I have this ever shrinking SSD even though I don't put anything on it other than pictures I save from the internet.

Should have bought another storage drive to be honest senpai.

>>388216424
this anon is right
if you bought a 2600k in 2011 its still going strong, 2500k to some extent too. just put in a new gpu every 3 years to continue maxing games

if you cheaped out and bought a FX chip you probably had to replace it 2 times already

>>388216424
crap, an actually sensible advice and it's not even on the board it supposed to belong to
>>388216497
don't be a fucking literate dipshit - what he means is not to buy an insufferably crap one, especially from older generation (unless it's really good and has real good discounted price as well)

>>388216497
2600k was $300 on launch. 2500k was $200

not expensive for a decade lasting cpu senpai

>>388216497
Just get an i5 or ryzen r5. Hell, if you want, go ryzen r3 if you're planning on sticking to 1080p. It doesn't have to be overkill, but you want something that can last.
I see it like this. If I have to get a new CPU, I may as well build a whole new PC.

>>388216646
>Got memed by LogicalIncrements in to buying a i5 6500

Should I sell it and get a 7700k considering that it's the last skylake chip that's going to come out and I spent a lot on my MB like an audtist?

>>388216802
i5s other than the new 6 cores ones are pointless with r5 1600 out

>think about putting together a new computer
>look up all the parts, do research, figure out the price
>realize all I play are old games and can't actually justify doing it

>>388216802
amd are good for one thing - sticking to their sockets for as long as possible, so it's a pretty safe bet to buy a lower-tier model and just upgrade to 1700-1800 one in future.
I'd suggest to avoid modern Intel CPUs for simple reason of not having problems with replacing thermal paste under the lid to fix the heating problems

t. dumb Skylake owner

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Just wanted to tell you all that this thing still runs anything I throw at it (now that I have a proper CPU instead of some cheap Pentium)

>>388216893
do it only when you really need it (i.e. when the software will perform at unsatisfactory speed)

>>388216893
yes, or a 6700k
it'll last ages for gaming

>>388209283
My motherboard can't support Ryzen.

>>388217118
trying to remember a single reason to choose 7700k over 6700k (besides slightly higher clocks) and i can't - did kaby lake introduce some fancy 4K video hardware decoding or am i imagining it?

>>388217294
it gets like 200mhz higher clocks, thats it

get whatever is cheaper

>>388217075
yea at 30fps lmao

>>388217103
I play a lot of milsims and CPU heavy games and can hopefully sell my 6500 for 150CDN,

I see that i5 7600k is only 300$ while the i7 7700k is 430$, is hyperthreading and the rest of the improvements really worth the extra 130$?

>>388217552
yes. 7600k is the same as your cpu, quad i5s bottleneck stuff quite commonly now.

hyperthreading is well worth it

>>388217415
huh, yeah that's it.
I think i'll even settle with 6700 for simple reason of lower TDP (65W is now my sweet spot), which is something to consider in midterm time period as the heat exchange solution is utter dogshit (i swear, had the game I have finally upgraded for not released in 2016 i'd buy Ryzen with some fast RAM these days)

here's full comparison sheet
https://ark.intel.com/compare/88196,88195,97129

>>388217552
hyperthread is the only thing that really matters. Look up 6700 or 6700k prices

>>388217892
>heat exchange solution
under the lid

>>388217552
Get i7. I5's age like milk compared to 7's.

And also check out what

>>388217982 is good advice

>>388206281
>no poptarts

shit build

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>>388209051
>FX

>>388209051
>>388209051
>FX-8370 chip
>in 2017

You got bamboozled hard my friend

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>>388209051
>FX-8370 chip

Literally nothing wrong with Pentium for just games.

Only thing wrong with this build is the expensive RAM. high clockspeed memory is a meme

>>388218665
i swear - "bamboozled" and "discombobulated" are the words made up by clowns that somehow ended up being used by everyone.

>>388218946
>Literally nothing wrong with Pentium for just games.
except stuttering in any AAA game post 2015 with a fucking 1070

with a 1050 it would be fine

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>>388209051
>FX-8370

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>>388209051
>2017
>FX-8370

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>>388209051
you got fucking punk'd my man

>>388221119
>>388220906
>>388220748
garage posts

>>388206281
That basically is budget now. what you got for 400 back in 2011 is not what you get today. Today, it'd cost twice as much. Budget now is like 800-1k

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>>388222575
t. FX owner

>>388222635
But that's not true, as I said in OP you could easily cut off 2-400$ off that shit if you just weren't autistic

>>388222983
it is true though, a mid range gpu today is $300 lmao. RAM prices are also through the roof compared to 2011

back in 2011 a mid range gpu was $150. $300 would get you the second most powerful gpu at the time (GTX 570) or a 6970, the most powerful AMD card at the time.

these days the second most powerful gpu is a 1080ti for $800

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>>388222575
Let me guess, FX user, right?

>Canada
That said, who the fuck pairs a 1070 with a G4560?

>>388223251
>1050 for 130$
>play everything high 1080p 60fps
>ddr3 ram

>>388223483
>>388222976
i5 6500, your posts just suck

>>388223486
PCgamer apparently

>>388223251
I remember when 8gb ram was $35 and 16gb was $70~

you pay 2x the amount on gpus today and 3-4x on the ram

>>388223639
1050 is shit, just like gtx 550 was shit

no one wants a 50 card, you'll be playing low 30fps within a year

>>388223639
DDR3 ram costs 3x what it costed in 2011 m8

>>388216930
Are you me?

>>388224821
no, i'm me

>>388216930
I do this all the time, the realise theres no point since my 2500k/970 is enough for me

most of the time im playing old school runescape