>dont add any new content for 6 months >6 months later,

Being ubisoft

Just try out Lawbreakers maan

>removing the two best maps

what the fuck

>operation health is to repair the game and smooth it out
>fucks it up even more

H O W
O O
W O H

>Beta is fucking dogshit
>Hear from /v/ they made the game good afterwards
>Consider getting it
>Now this happens
>And it's free on steam for the weekend
Is this shit even worth my time? I hated the beta with a burning passion.

Blood Orchid is delayed for another week.
What did they remove?
Yacht and Favela?

>>388188883
Easily one of the best FPS games out there but Ubisoft is a publisher so it got issues but you think BF1 the mod for BF4 is better? Or Overwatch? Or fucking....CoD?

>>388189307
Yea, and they're planning to completely remove other maps from the game because "data limitations"

>>388188883
>removes the 2 most cancerous shitty maps
>changes hitboxes making them less broken for many ops
>block several spawn peeking locations
>rework several maps to make them run better on lower end machines
they are doing their work you asshat
Siege was planned as quick throwaway cashgrab but evolved into something too big to just ignore and now they have to fix it somehow
the game is fine and the removal of favela is worth op health already
(my guess is yacht will only be removed to be reworked because its not actually disliked)


>>388189495
they are getting fucked by vivendi and have huge trouble atm in the financially sense and cant afford to upgrade their hardware to support more maps
hate on vivendi not ubi

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While it sucks they're removing shit form the fucking game rather than adding to it, I can understand their justification. I would welcome new players being able to learn the maps and be able to make accurate callouts.

>>388189495
I can see why Favela, that map is a cluster fuck.
Why Yacht though? It has some shit rooms to attack, but it's not that bad.
By data limitations do they mean beaner connections?
I'm sick of all the laggy asses of Mexico and below who take forever to load in.

>>388189495
Favela sucks, yeah but I'd rather play that then that fucked up border map.

It sounds like they're redesigning the maps and reintroducing them later. Favela and Yacht are shit anyways.

>>388189778
with data limitations they mean their hardware is running at the limit and thanks to vivendi they cant afford more
and yacht is only removed for 1 season while favela is gone for good at least that would make sense

>>388189842
>Favela is gone for good
Thanks Ubisoft, you did well.

>>38818971
>Theme Park not in ranked
why? every dlc map added has been in ranked on launch. what's stopping them this time?

>>388190252
fuck ment for
>>388189712

>>388189115
I mean i'm not that happy about it myself but come on man

>Favela
>Yacht
>2 best maps

>>388189712
how does removing maps help new players learn the maps ? couldn't they learn them with or without the removal of these maps?

>>388190252
>>388190335
most likely to address the learn curve problem

it takes hours and hours to just learn one valid tactic for just one location on a single map with every map having 4-5 locations 3 gamemodes it takes for fucking ever to get "into" a map
which makes it ass for new players

>>388189842
>their hardware is running at the limit
What the fuck does that even mean?
They sure as fuck are not editing every map simultaneously, and the game isn't loading every map simultaneously.
They should be able to handle 100 fucking maps.

>>388188883
Wasn't too much of a fan of the yacht, but favela map is just great. Sure, it's messy and colorful as fuck and it takes some time to learn to even spot which part of it you're supposed to attack, but it's still a fucking great map once you finally figured it out, probably the best one even.

Regardless, it's fucking retarded to remove maps because they're too hard to learn for new players. They could simply offer different selections of maps depending on player levels, and leave all maps to high level players. Now that would be smart. Adding additional singleplayer situations with the new maps that give you great occasions to explore the map on your own calmly would be a great idea too.

But Ubisoft rarely has even remotely positive ideas.

>>388190452
a quick google said they removed Plane and House

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>>388189842
>see that I got Favela as the next map
>Leave the moment i get in operator selection.
Fuck that map. Yacht's cool though.

>>388190606
from ranked
favela and yacht are gone from casual as well

>>388190606
>Plane
>House
>Good

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Why do the first couple matches always take a long time to load in when I boot up the game for the first time each day? Everyone always says I need to not use wifi but I'm using a grounded connection and have a better ping than some of the players telling me to get a better connection.

The new ranked map pool is some of the best news I heard from this game in a long time, I literally couldn't take maps like Plane and Favela seriously, whenever I played them I just messed around until the match was over. Sucks that the new map is not in the pool though.

>>388190842
loading the maps into the cache
its your RAM and to an extend HDD that affects loading times not your internet

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>>388190842
>loading times
>connection related
It's mostly your HDD/RAM

>>388190507
The exact sentence is:
>We are quickly approaching the limit of our data sizes, and this will require a rework of how our maps are stored. As a result, we are currently planning on removing maps from the game entirely down the road (not in Season 3).

Could mean several things:
>game is getting too big for updates, because yes updates cost money as in Uplay bandwidth, and extra money on FUCKING CONSOLES because Microsoft and Sony are making publishers pay it a whole fucking lot
>game is getting too big for FUCKING CONSOLES, as they have data limitations on disk
>game engine is fucking garbage and struggles with too big data, or RAM usage is too high, both of which probably are adjusted because of FUCKING CONSOLES

Regardless, any downgrade generally screams "CONSOLE", and this one certainly does.

>>388190842
If you had the 4k texture DLC if massively increases loading time, on a 7200 RPM HDD you will always take about 10 seconds longer to load than everyone else. But on SSD it's instant.

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>>388191008
Filename again.

>>388190930
>this will require a rework of how our maps are stored.
Sounds to me like removing maps is temporary until they do that rework. They already redid how the game stores and loads textures to make loading faster, they could be refactoring that entire aspect of the game.

>>388190887
>>388190918
>>388190995
Oh I see, I still have 8gb RAM and dont own an SSD. I should upgrade those soon since game requirements are getting pretty ridiculous.

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>>388191008
Seeing as I hated Favela/House/Hereford/Uni I'm ok with this. Though I'll miss Yacht.

i've noticed most the people who play this game play extremely shittily and treat it like COD or CSGO running around everywhere with no care for teamwork or communication

meanwhile my team uses CQB tactics and maneuver slowly and carefully together while covering eachother and we win 90% of the time, so i ask you, when will you get good and start playing the game the way its meant to be played, like rainbow six.

>>388190930
quickly I would dismiss too big for consoles, as there are much larger games for consoles, and also engine struggling or RAM usage, because the game is still only actually loading one map at a time

so the last possible is the first you mentioned, that the game is getting too big for updates, but I would also reject this, as bandwidth is dirt cheap, even for consoles

so I guess maybe the way the game loads maps could be fucked up, but I haven't noticed unusually high RAM usage from siege, and current gen consoles have a lot of RAM

>>388191124
same here but im doing fine
siege is my only game that reaches 7+Gb so far
>>388191157
show your 9/1 winrate senpai

>>388191124
8gb is fine if you're not having tons of shit running in the background. It's probably your HDD

>>388190930
I don't think it's because of consoles, they don't seem to care about consoles as much as PC. Console has more bugs than PC, gets updates weeks after PC, got removed from pro league, etc. It's likely a limitation of their engine because when the game released they never saw it getting this big and having to add so much content.

Wait they removed Favela? But I thought I just played on it earlier today.

>>388191207
>bandwidth is dirt cheap, even for consoles
Actually no. At this point we've heard many stories of publishers withholding critical patches until they get more sizeable and useful, because pushing updates was expensive as fuck. Keep in mind they always have to update hundreds of thousands to million of consoles.

I mean, it may be "cheap", apparently it doesn't fit in everyone's budget.

>>388191305
with Season 3

>>388191407

Oh ok.

I only play this game during free weekends and I've never had a problem with the map, I actually like it because it's one of the few maps I can easily find my way around.

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>>388191210
nah i'm in bed posting from my macbook

but srsly when will the rest of the community stop being bad and start using tactics?

>>388191379
na fuck off, publishers are greedy cunts who will nickel and time the consumer at every opportunity. They'll throw a bone every now and then in the form of insignificant updates to keep the userbase appeased.

>>388191379
Isn't that due to re-certification rather than actual bandwidth usage?
Games have to be re-certified by Sony/Microsoft after being updated is what I have heard.
So it's not how big the updates are that you're pushing, it's the quantity.

>>388191104
>Sounds to me like removing maps is temporary until they do that rework.
Actually not all maps will be reworked:
>To be clear, not all maps that are removed from the Casual playlist will be reworked, but some of them will be over the course of the years to come.

Also this is Ubisoft, you can expect the game to be dead and support pulled before the rework of some maps is finished. They give no deadline for the rework nor do they even feel the need to give one. It just means "we'll do our best but for now you're fucked".

>>388191280
>they never saw it getting this big and having to add so much content.
They must be extra retarded then, Quake 3 had a ton more content, and even in 32bit architecture you have more than enough room for everything. They must have fucked up their engine big time if this is the case, and considering it's the same engine as the rest of their games, well then I doubt that.

>>388191480
can only speak for me but i usually play it with friend while drinking and generally just having fun (casual matches) and while we usually at least carry our weight we dont really stand a chance against a 5 player premade

atm its free weekend and we constantly get matched with 3 lvl 0- 9 against 3-4 lvl 100+ and its getting really annoying

>>388191535
That's a different thing, they are talking about editing Favela and Yacht to make them less unbalanced and shit to play on. They are also redoing how the game stores maps.

>>388191081
God Tier
>Oregon
>Clubhouse
>Kafe

OK Tier
>Chalet
>Coastline
>Hereford
>Kanal
>Consulate

Meh Tier
>Bank
>Border
>Skyscraper

Shit Tier
>University
>Plane
>House

??? Tier
>Theme Park

>delayed the new servers for a week
>Hitreg still garbage because of it
Enjoy free weekend fags. currently its in a worse state its ever been.

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>>388189712
>Remove Yacht
>Keep University, the literal worst map in the game

>>388191124
Nah i have an SSD and the game still took long to load on the first match

>>388191723
>University, the literal worst map in the game
skrub

>>388191723
university is only garbage when you dont know how to approach it (dont go in form the fucking front )

>>388191770
shouldnt happen desu
is your CPU garbage maybe?
when i upgraded from FX 4300 to i5 3570k my load times for medium textures went from 7-8 secs to instant and im loading very high now under 10 secs instead

>>388191656

Since Theme Park is already planned for the casual playlist, I would put it no higher than Meh Tier.

I'm mixed by the news. I always hated Yacht, Favela, Plane, and University.

>>388191723
The worst map by far is Favela, literally the worst map design I have seen in a first person shooter.

>>388191845
It's completely random, one game it'll load for almost a minute, other game it'll load in 4 seconds, it makes no sense

>>388191909
i have that too
the only thing that is constant is my "average" load time with matches loading instant now and then being the exception

>>388190468
I can see where your coming from, but personally I think anyone that doesn't know all the maps yet shouldn't play ranked in the first place.

>another map with a meme setting

>>388192071
it impacts casual as well
and there is a reason there are low ranks in ranked
its not just gold and up

>>388190930
>data gets store on disk for consoles you're beyond retarded

>>388191656
Why do people hate House and Plane?
they seem pretty based to me

>>388192325
Plane has gotten alot better tahnks to the Glaz nerf imo
house is okay dont know either

>>388192325
House is too claustrophobic for me and Plane is just shit because of defenders running out and shooting you 0.3 nanoseconds after you spawned with no way to react

>>388192432
>house too claustrophobic
lol
>plane defenders
anticipate them to peak
??

>>388192325
Probably the Glaz picks on Plane and him withother DMR shitter spots that pepper House.

>>388191610
>That's a different thing, they are talking about editing Favela and Yacht to make them less unbalanced and shit to play on.
Then point me to that quote, because that's not what I'm reading here: https://rainbow6.ubisoft.com/siege/en-us/news/152-299564-16/changes-to-map-rotations-in-season-3
>Additionally, some of the maps that are removed will be reworked by our Level Design team. To be clear, not all maps that are removed from the Casual playlist will be reworked, but some of them will be over the course of the years to come.

They clearly say not all maps will be reworked, which means they'll be gone for good, which is what started this shit in the first place. Now they act like "wow there's a lot of maps" when there's just enough to use the plural, which could hint at more being removed.

>>388192325
>>388192429
>house upstairs spawn
>plane cargo spawn
>peek meme on both

>>388192285
A hard drive disk contains a disk. Several actualyl.

>>388192532
>they are gone GONE
>rotating maps in and out
Is this a new concept to you?

>>388192325
On House there is nowhere for the defenders to hide, I think it might be the smallest map in the game. Plane is shit because it's too linear, there are no windows and no outside cameras or runouts.

House often ends with defenders getting fucked from every angle while Plane often ends in a stalemate where attackers literally can't do anything because it's so easy to defend.

>>388192532
>some of the maps that are removed will be reworked by our Level Design team
>We are quickly approaching the limit of our data sizes, and this will require a rework of how our maps are stored

They are talking about reworking two different things here.

>>388192670
>As a result, we are currently planning on removing maps from the game entirely down the road (not in Season 3).

Just read the blog post. They're being unnecessarily vague, which would be surprising to simply mention playlist changes.

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>>388188883
I just want to be able to play casual and select one map to play SO I CAN FUCKING LEARN THE MAPS. I don't play this game enough to learn all the maps as it cycle through them randomly, id rather learn each map one at a time, then I might play ranked after I learnt how to play each map. The shitty map preference thing doesn't even work, its beyond retarded. Ubi finally puts out an OK game and then shits all over it because they don't know what to do with a game that isnt just about graphics and stabby blades.

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>>388189712
Fix the map preference system in casual so I can learn each of the maps one at a time and it would legit not be a problem.

>>388192465
>anticipate them to peak
Would be easier if there was a way to see what the fuck they opened but you cant see it because you spawn below the plane and something is always blocking your view on all entries. They just step out and its a gamble which one they opened, hell most of the time they opened everything.
>but but drone first!
Enjoy waiting at spawn for 1 minute.It's a shit map.

>>388192753
>wanting siege to have de_dust2 syndrome

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>>388192851
>Would be easier if there was a way to see what the fuck they opened
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>388192881
desu Bungie's Halos did it right. You got a map proposed, and if you didn't play it, you could veto it for "something else". Sometimes they got something better, sometimes they got another map they'd veto. This led to people playing the entirety of maps with a slight bias towards some prefered ones.

But hey
>Ubisoft
>good design
Pick another publisher.

>>388193083
You probably don't play much. It takes a split second to run to a window and break an opening in the barricade. It takes even less time to throw an impact grenade at it, because ironically defenders have the quickest and most practical tools for breaking barricades.

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>>388189667
>removes the 2 most cancerous shitty maps

I liked Yacht.

>>388193224
you are in a minority

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>>388192325
House is literally the best map. The only bad thing about it is the kids room.

>>388193321
kids room is just a tard trap

>>388193278
I don't care.

They shouldn't remove stuff if they don't have anything that can replace it.

>>388190606
hahah what the fuck plane and house are the only two enjoyable maps in this shitheap of a game and the least graphically intensive, too
ubisoft is fucking hopeless. fuck those incompetent niggers

>>388193369
What i hate about that room is when my teammates reinforce the walls, instead of destroying them with c4 or nades.

>>388192881
Well the current preference system literally does nothing, it irritates me more that it even exist if it doesn't work. It ques for all of 5 seconds before giving up and shoving you into whatever map.

>>388192753
Play terrorist hunt senpai. I know its shit but atleast you can just take your time and walk around and learn the layout. unless you get the shitty defend the hostage one

>>388190930
>because yes updates cost money as in Uplay bandwidth
bandwidth in 2017 costs something along the lineso of $0.000002 per GB so how can that ever be an issue for a giant company?

>>388189270
worse than beta at this point in time.

>removing content

Wow, i mean i refunded the game because it was complete garbage, but EVEN for this shit game that's a new low.

>>388189824
THIS is actually really likely

Condense Yacht, add walls to Favela. Now bundle this as the mid season reinforcement

>>388191770
You have to wait for peasents not on dad's I ended up moving it to a normal HDD when I realised, I know I'm part of the problem now but I only have 500gb

Game isn't even 40gb I don't understand how they're "hitting the data limit"

Are Ubisoft trying to cut costs by cutting server storage? Or maybe they're cutting server capacity and the game now uses 'too much' RAM.

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>a gigantic corporation with 3 billion in revenue in 2016
>having storage problems
is this a joke?

>>388191081
Remove shitscraper, add yacht back.

>>388191145
I absolutely loathe Favela but I don't want to see it removed, I want it fixed.

Hate favela but don't wanna see it removed. House, Plane and Yacht are some of my favourites though wtf.

How comes Hereford Base isn't in ranked too?

>>388189112
sorry I'm not SKILLED AF