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>they're making Battle Mercy a real thing now >actively

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>they're making Battle Mercy a real thing now
>actively discouraging the player to heal

why do people play this piece of shit anymore?
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>overwatch
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Having 20 seconds of increased fire rate doesn't mean she's getting discouraged from healing, i bet you're bronze and don't know better tho
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Everytime I read some vtards incoherent criticism of overwatch it makes me actually like Blizzard out of spite. Fuck you op.
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>can rez on a whim now
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>>388162023
yea fuck that url
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>>388160294
are you telling me that you actually enjoy being a "total free kill" in FPS games?

How does someone develop such a cucked mindset

Do you like getting beaten up IRL as well?
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>>388160475
the game is made by and for sjw, it's literally made for the reddit crowd. The lame as fuck sense of humor having, never worked out a day of my life, passive aggressive why do I feel like a bitch FAGETS!!!

The game pushes too much politics into it's agenda
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Holy shit, that's amazing. Mercy's gun is like my favorite thing about overwatch.
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>>388160475
What fucking use is flying other than being a battle mercy?

>Her rez is a normal skill now
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>>388162821

The fact that Valkrie allows Mercy to do multi-target healing.
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>>388160294
reelaborate
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>>388162821
Mercy's Ult does more than let her fly around, she can now multi-target Heal / Damage buff if her team mates are close enough and she has far more longevity because she has constant health regen. Being able to fly is the icing on the cake.
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>blizzard's idea of balancing mercy is to make her a Mary Sue for 20 seconds
>it's totally fine giving a character higher damage, higher fire rate, infinite ammo, flight (the "it may as well be noclip" kind, not the shit kind like Phara has), multi-target healing/damage boosting and uninterruptible regeneration
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>>388164386
When compared to other ults, it's fine. Rez was stupid and worked counter to how a mercy should be playing. Her new ult promotes the type of proactive healing she should be doing rather than encouraging suicide dives to force a second fight,.
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>>388164508
why the fuck would a mercy bother with healing with this new ult when they're extremely hard to hit and shit constant DPS?
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>>388160294
why are you complaining? have you played the new mercy?

She is ABSURDLY strong, seriously feels like you are using cheat codes when valkyria is online
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>>388164979
people who main Mercy are girls who can't aim or have any game sense, that or faggots play her literally faggots main Mercy
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>>388162730
This is the stupidest shit I've read today, and I've been browsing for 10 hours straight.
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>>388165793
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>>388165725
I main Mercy because she is cute and a pedophile!
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>>388165924
your retarded ships aren't canon
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>>388165924
well she is pretty cute. mama medic is great
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>>388162730
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>>388162730
are you winning son?
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>>388165924
Wait, how do you know she's a pedo?

Do you have sauce or tor address?
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>>388162730
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>>388165793
Nah, hes right. I play games to get away from politics, no have them shoved down my throat.
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>Reinhardt: Barrier Field
>Holding primary fire while your shield is active now allows you to rotate the camera

Holy fuck how did it take them that long to make such an obvious QoL fix like that
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>>388165725
woah shit, gabens really let himself go
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Well this completely fucks up the fundamental role of the character as a mass resurrector and tries to force her into becoming yet another DPS character.
Res once every 30 seconds is too damn slow, unless you're moving as a group and only one of your guys dies every now and then. Sure it functions well enough then.
But any situation where more than 2 of your guys are dead and with many enemies around, forget it.
And if anything, this new skill will only encourage the hell out of hiding, because you get a res without doing shit and can swoop in from behind a corner to give it.

They should have done this differently, by giving her a flying and multi heal/buff ability every 30 seconds, while keeping the ult as it was.
If they wanted to nerf her and the ult, they should have considered taking away the momentarily invincibility from everyone during res.
It's like they want a casual game that has the widest appeal, yet at the same time they listen to the griping DPS crowd who's salty when they fail to kill the support and their chain ults go to waste.
You can't exactly turn the game into a Call of Duty, while trying to keep the super casual female audience playing it.
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Am I the only one who thinks D.Va's new ability is actually pretty alright? Her primary weapons are peashooters, so I welcome any long range stuff I can get.
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>>388165924
>loli Pharah sideboob
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>>388167048
mass resurrector is a stupid fucking concept for a pvp shooter so who cares
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>>388160294
I dont actively play OW anymore. But read the patch notes today

Why are they changing Mercy? What's wrong with having some classes that are less active than others? Play Tracer or somethign if you want to press buttons all the time.
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>"Valkyrie is shit flying around just makes you easy kills for snipers"
>"wtf don't pick snipers all snipers are shit literally free ult charge for genji/tracer/d.va/doomfist"
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>>388167295
People kept hiding mercys in corners and trying to all die together on purpose to cheese out huge resses.

Mercys with res would just hide away and ignore the fight an not heal people in order to get a res off.
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>>388167295
Mass resurrection is anti fun
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>>388160294
>play the healer as a healer
>get 100 reports
>get permabanned

Great game Blizzard!
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>Completely waste the enemy team alone
>Think the day is saved and we're gonna win the match
>Their Mercy presses Q and ruins everything
This shit is part of the reason I quit playing the game
Glad they changed it
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>>388167645

I have seen this happen only once and even then the Mercy was called a useless retard.
But then again I don't play comp an only stick to QP.

>>388167838
You know what's anti fun?
Lying on the ground watching Mercy scoot around, trying to target the dead tank of the group.
Knowing that you'll have to start from the spawn while that one cunt gets to continue the fun on the spot.
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Trying to copy Lawbreakers Battle Medic. Hahahahaha
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>>388167295

s-sauce
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mercy's current kit is just complete and total degenerate cancer and here's why

it promotes bad play. why play smart when you can just throw yourself into the meatgrinder with your team while your mercy hides and waits so she can press q?
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>>388162730
do you run the No Bullshit channel?

This post is that guy in a nutshell. Don't let your SJW boogieman get to you.
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>>388168717
I wonder
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>>388166329
>Nah, hes right.
But he isn't
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>>388168174
>I have seen this happen only once
It's basically the core of her character and what you are picking her for. Build up charge, then play safe and wait for a 3+ man meme rez.
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>>388168174
It's very common on comp as people communicate and work as a team more.
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>>388160294
Remove the stupid pistol buff to discourage idiots to go "battle mercy" and do actual support
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>>388168851
hey BS

shouldn't you be making a video on how SJW pandering is everywhere in Sonic Mania
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>>388168976
>>388168717
stfu bitch you know I'm right. Just look at gay and tranny shit this game pushes.
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>>388165725
>Natzi's who blame Steam for Postal 3 being shit
>They don't want to admit that video games are banned under current dogma, so they take it out on other people

80% chance the person who made this was also mormon.
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Anyone else think the Rez needs a way longer cooldown or something? A good team is probably only going to lose one player every 20 seconds or more, unless there's an ult
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>>388169186
Not that dude but believe me there are a shit load of people who are red piled. IMHO you're too stupid to understand, or even became to see the gears that turn the machine.
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>>388168538
Jeff literally said that's the reason they changed it.
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>>388169281
It's too short for (non-retard) competitive play, and it's too long for regular casual play.
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>>388167295
Mercy players heal until they have their rez on standby. At that point, a Mercy is better off staying away from the action since a dead Mercy can't use her Ult, and it not only makes the allies go without a reliable healer, but enemies will groan at their team wipe being made moot because someone pressed Q.
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>>388167082
>New D.va

Wait what? Go on.
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>>388169778
she now has missiles that she can launch at any time, letting her attack and boost/ shield. In exchange, defense matrix got nerfed
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>>388164660
Because trying to be Battle Mercy is still a terrible idea and you will die if you try to.
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I'll bet OP is one of those faggot who got carried to GM by hiding and pressing Q.
She now can actually fight back and do more than pocket one person 90% of the time.

>>388169778
She has missiles and can shoot both her gun and them while boosting.
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>>388162023
>Anyway meta is they're incrementally removing character differences under criticism of balance, since once all characters are identical no one can complain. Better not to have a feature a few people hate, even if its a feature. Sad.
worked for Street Fighter
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fuck this shit
developers should never have started listening to players
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>>388160294
You Jnow something

I was annoyed by the idea that mercy can just hell 3 people a minute and essentially become an attack chopper that makes Pharah look like a a toy figure being thrown around the room.

But have play 4 games (3 wins, 1 lost) that basically torn my hair out because of last min ults from Mercy that just undos EVERYTHING because mercy was able to hide or simply Rez from the other side of the wall......

I'm ready.

Give me the 6 kills streak Valkerie
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>>388162730
>>???
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>>388166329
>reworking mercy's ultimate to be less counterintuitive is political
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>>388160294

They've pretty much already said the pistol is gonna get changed, it's clearly way too strong right now.

Personally I like the changes to her, I think the ult still needs some adjusting so it's not overly strong, but for the most part I think the changes will make her a lot more enjoyable to play and perhaps increase her skill ceiling a bit more. I can understand why some people are upset because they're essentially changing her core playstyle, but I think in the long run it'll be a beneficial change.
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>>388168063
>popping ult before killing mercy
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>>388160294
lol the fuck are you talking about. her ult is the only thing that makes her 'battle mercy', otherwise she can now Rez -at fucking will-, and shit even her ult gives her healing/power-up 2x the default. literally not understanding how the character works
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>>388160294
>actively discouraging the player to heal
In what universe can you possibly think this
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>Blizzard guts Roadhog's damage and turns him into a shitty third-rate tank
>Blizzard guts D. Va's tanking and turns her into a third-rate DPS

What the fuck do they even think when they do this shit?

>"Well, people have been crying really hard over a Tank doing her job of protecting her team"
>"I know, let's make her tanking ability only last two seconds and have a ten-second recharge time!"
>"Then we'll give her Macross Missiles because everyone loves that anime!"
>"But we don't touch her shit range, shit spread, shit damage, or shit amount of armor so she still dies in two seconds."
>"There you go, D. Va fans, you now have that bullying meanie D. Va you always wanted!"

And Geoff said he despised the idea of D. Va doing exactly that sort of thing which was why he gutted her armor and spead and damage in the first place. Remember when his response to people criticizing it was "Well you can still DM Junkrat RIP-Tires and ulting McCrees, that should make you feel useful!" and outright stated that he wanted D. Va to be nothing but a DM battery for the team?
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>>388171697
If anything, Mercys will now heal all over the place to charge up that ult faster.
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>>388169207
There's one gay character
You're just whining
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>>388164386
>flight (the "it may as well be noclip" kind, not the shit kind like Phara has)

This pisses me off, flight like she has n her Ultimate should be either what Pharah can normally do or be the main gimmick of a new airborne hero. But no, they waste it on the secondary poster bitch healslut. This is why Orisa was a sloppy mishmash of other characters' abilities, Blizzard is too fucking stupid to use new abilities and ideas on new characters.
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>>388162730
[citation needed]
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>>388160294
>play a game of comp
>group of 4
>they're literal retards trying to climb with one good player

>zen ults
>runs away from the action

>"hey mercy can you damage boost me, i can kill most of the team if you do"
>"okay"
>doesn't do it
>kill 3 people and die mid fight

>"hey mercy damage boost me, i have ult"
>"okay"
>doesn't because they shot at him once

>guys we need to deal with Doomfist
>I keep killing him
>they dont even notice that Winston is getting all the picks

I FUCKING HATE THIS GAME
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Blizzard is slowly turning every hero (not Roadhog) into a DPS. Why are they so shit at balancing?
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>>388172658
>implying this is a bad thing
Get out you fuccboi healslut. Just cause they are making you actually play the game now you suddenly don't like it anymore.
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>>388160294
people play this shit for the simple fact parents will buy anything to keep their kids distracted to avoid parenting them.

>2017
>go SXSW gaming award show
>crowd has a mix
>lots of kids though out of anything
>game of the year is saved for last
>announce uncharted 4 as the winner
>literally every kid that looked under 18 left during the speech
>kids crying
>some parents telling kids ,"it's okay you like the game
>edge lords booing
>disgruntled teens complaining while exiting the building

Yep that award show showed a large part of the fanbase that plays it
pic fucking related
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>>388172658
DPS is the most fun though. Everybody likes to play DPS, and nobody likes to play shitty Defense heroes. I want Mei to be a DPS hero.
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>>388172831
nice mlp hat
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>>388172863
I want Mei to cuddle up with me under a blanket on the couch while we watch netflix.
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>>388160294
Can't tell if this is bait, but this is actually what majority of /v/ wanted since you all hate the passive healing Mercy mains.
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>>388170871
It's a decent idea if you userbase is full of enthusiasts. The problem is they started listening to everyone assuming that they all have equally formed opinions without having a meaningful way to check their "gamer cred" as asinine as it sounds.

https://youtu.be/3qdRzxmgYWo?t=244

Video games are too big now. The goal now is to release a product that will interest as many people as possible, that offends as few people as possible, while having some kind of hook that keeps the players invested usually through some kind of instant gratification. While you can set out with mostly good intentions, all you end up doing is creating a game that brings in the type of person who gets caught by those hook the most often. This translates into Overwatch as the instalock hanzo/widow/genji players, "Mercy Main" Syndrome, and throwers. If they can't do the thing they want to do right now, they don't want to be involved.

Unfortunately, they also tend to be the most vocal too.
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>>388172863
Rework ice wall. Boom. I've just made every owrwatch player happy. Too bad it's such an iconic fucking thing with its own POTG cinematic that there's no way that'll happen.


Also, would like to cuddle with Mei. She's my fav right up there with sombra
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>>388171796
The worst part is the missiles fucking suck. They have a fucking delay for some reason and they don't even do damage.
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>>388160463
FPBP
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>>388160294

Do you have brain damage?

They changed her ult to encourage healing above all else.
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>>388171408
All she needed was a tetherless Guardian Angel as her E ability with a moderate cooldown to allow her to preemptively perch or as another escape/mobility option.

It's pretty similar to the Roadhog hook changes a few months back where everyone who played Roadhog in a particular way suddenly found themselves unable to use the character. The hide and seek Mercy mains are the same as Flankhog mains in this regard.

Honestly, her Ult is probably just going to be a "get the fuck off me winston/tracer/genji" button instead of having to be babysat by a teammate. Instead of soaking ultimates with Rez, she soaks Ultimates with her Chainhealing/boosting while being super mobile. Besides, if you utilize the fact that her new Ult resets the Rez cooldown, you can fly in>rez>ult>rez>10s>rez and get 3 people up, probably 4 people if the stars are aligned; I forget how long the death timer is once you die since I haven't played since last season.
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>>388172863
Fuck off, Mei is perfect the way she is
You don't deserve to have that picture
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>>388173659
All of the battle Mercy memesters are going to come out of the woodwork now though. I can already see Mercy players wading into 1v5s with her Ult up instead of taking the team fight with increased healing/damage.

"If Blizzard didn't want me to battle Mercy, why did they give me a damage boost on my primary?" is going to be the new argument of the day.
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>>388172798
Fuck you, I main McCree. And the only support I have over an hour with is Ana.
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>>388173934
>doesn't play all roles
Good job being a silver shitter or you a quickplay only baby?
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>>388172863
Why don't u just pick a dps hero then. Let the tanks and supports do what they're meant to be doing. TANKING AND HEALING
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>>388173659
This.
There is just an added benefit of being able to actually fight back until your team is sorted.
Fly in, res ult res, lay down some fire on a squishy and use mobility to get away from danger and dart about healing, boosting, firing while using res on cooldown.
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>>388169476
>woman is in a game
>HAS THIS COMPANY GONE FULL SJW?!?!?!?!

yeah nah that isn't redpill at all, thats just what happens when you let fear get to you.
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>>388173662
This. Her pistol is certainly very strong right now, but even some slight nerfs to it will mean her ult will be used for healing/GTFO the way it should be.

I'm fine with these changes. They're probably the best balancing next to Lucio. People give Blizzard shit for everything, but new Mercy is fine.
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>>388174030
I can play dps, tank, or Ana (my second most played hero) it doesn't matter. By main I meant my favorite. And I've never even been below gold!
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>>388167295
>>388168481
this is from a street fighter guro dojinshi, cool art though
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>>388170871
>developers should never have started listening to players

Pretty much. We can, once again, blame DOTA and League since they pretty much allowed this shit to happen.
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>>388172863
Mei is already a dps.
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>>388167310
i didnt know gay retards evovled into nigger faggots. is there another evolution
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>>388160294
Wait what? Where did you get that from?
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>>388172658
Because nearly everyone in OW can chunk the shit out of everyone else.
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>>388168851
>blaming the Jews for your small penis
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>Ana even more into the garbage because of this
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>>388174776
Riot does whatever they want though.
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>>388160294
but, anon Heroes Never Die
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>>388174840
Hardly.

She either has to be an on point sniper with her projectiles or get in close against people with hammers, tesla guns, various regular bullets/pulse munitions and even fists.

Hell, even the people she's suppose to use her slow and freeze on can dance around her like it's nothing so good luck freezing a Genji with thee dash up or a Tracer with basically anything in her kit. You'd basically need to sneak attack up on bitches and you're not exactly mobile.

And one can only stall for so long with walls and cyrosleep. At that point, you're no longer DPS if you need to go defensive
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Being able to more liberally revive characters is interesting, but I feel like the ultimate is half-assed, trivializes Ana even more, and is going to encourage bad behavior.
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>>388162730
good post
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>Pharah's ult has been a literal joke since before beta ended
>Mercy has been getting small buffs non-stop since her first res nerf
>Now she's a literal godess of war, with better air control than someone with a jetpack

At least pretend you're trying to balance the game instead of playing favorites. Give Pharah armor during ult or some shit.
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>>388175482
Don't forget Orisa's Ult as well. Supposedly Mercy's new damage boost chaintether has longer range than Orisa's Can.
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>>388175721
I sincerely hope you're joking. May as well give Reaper armor when he Ults. It when Genji ults.

Fucking hell, give back the durability and speed up granted from Ana boost and allow Winston to truly go ape mode with armor.

EVERYONE GETS ARMOR AND CANT BE PUNSIED FOR PRESSING Q WHENER THEY FEEL LIKE IT.
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>>388175912
>give back the durability and speed up from Ana's Q
Yes, actually. Game needs to be more offensive.
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>>388176005
>everyone on /v/ shits about the Dive comp balancing
>fuck it, let's just remove all utility and give everyone mobility and damage out the ass
>FULL ON MASSACRE NON STOP.
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>>388160294
>MERCY MAINS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>388176149
Are you trying to imply that this is not the ideal state?

The more like an arena shooter OW becomes, the better.
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>>388176149
L U L
when will you realize the only shitters mad are the ones who can't hold m1 anymore
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>>388173407
Are you sure you're using them right? I've seen someone test the missles and are able to shell out 400+ damage in one volly while attacking with their normal guns.
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>>388176252
What I just described was a game that becomes call of duty without the killstreaks.
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>>388175814
Mercy only affects two people. Orisa's gets all six. Plus damage boosts stack, so someone with Nanoboost, Supercharger, and Staff on them does 130% more damage.
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>>388172647
so wait let me get this straight, youre a mercy player and you think you get to talk?
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>>388172647
>play Lucio ball
>get to the last match before the third loot unlock
>suddenly end up having a dozen losses in a row
>just want to get Genji's Nihon skin before they yank it away AGAIN
And people say this game isn't rigged to bleed people's money.
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>>388176480
You described Quake.
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>>388170080
Looking at PTR it doesn't seem like a terrible idea that is causing people to die.
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>>388175721
>better air control than someone with a jetpack

This is the part that annoys me the most. An ulted Mercy is literally a better Pharah than Pharah. What's the point of playing with the fucking jetpack waifu anymore? First everyone becomes a hitscsn sniper to counter her, and now this.

If I was still playing the game I would feel personally insulted by how little they care for my favorite character. Even now it still annoys me some.
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>>388176595
How's Quake Champions?
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>>388175721
Pharah has had pretty consistent mid-level performance for someone that hasn't been touched since they changed her hover, in a game where everybody is either ubiquitous or never used. She has excellent burst damage output and with the addition of Doomfist as another high damage/high mobility hero there have been some high profile plays to use the two to shut down dive. Keep in mind this is all accounting for the fact her ultimate almost never gets used without heavy setup and she just floats around just constantly engaging.

With D.Va's defense matrix nerf and Mercy's buff, Pharah's profile is about to get a lot higher and I think she'll be up for a nerf if people can't cope.

Honestly, if anything Pharah's ultimate just needs a rework. Give her better durability in general, let her be able to move, or do what other games do when they need to do somebody shooting a rocket barrage and just make it the danmaku homing rocket version of Soldier 76's ultimate instead of a stationary target.
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Overwatch has been shit ever since they removed picking a hero multiple times.
6 Winston was the pinnacle of gameplay, everything else just doesn't compare. Prove me wrong. You can't.
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>>388176498
Mercy's during ultimate has a group effect to everyone near her target. So a Pharah can be a hovering, hypermobile damage booster.
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>>388169207
You sound like a fucking loser desu
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>>388176498
Lol u realize they only made her super strong on ptr so mercy mains who make up 10% of the playerbase dont absolutely kill themselves
Shes gonna get her ult nerfed (again kek)
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>>388175998
Pedophilia is never okay and can leave incredible mental harm on the victim

The woman initiating it can also be diseased or riddled with STDs without the kid even knowing and simply acting on his hormones, that happened to a friend of mine when he was 16
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>>388170080
Have you seen the current buffs in action? Battle Mercy is stupidly viable now.
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>>388161978
>30 second cd
>Only one person

So much salt will ensue
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>>388176703
>playing the monkey
McCree needs to do him like Harambe
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>>388176802
They never change anything on the PTR
I remember D.VA had a game crasher on PTR, it was reported numerous times with exact steps on how to do it. It was still pushed live and took them an extra week to fix.
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>Already confirmed that the pistol does too much damage in ult

Back to being a heal bitch
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>hey mercy can you res me
>i only res my friend :-)
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>>388176941
>this wild 20 second invulerable pharmercy enabling ult that will destroy lower ranks is going to stay!!!

Yea ok
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>>388176893
You know, it strikes me a bit odd that they can realize how powerful bringing back someone from dead can be and give it an appropriately large cooldown, and yet they've had shockingly short cooldowns on abilities which can result in one shots.

Not that I mind the one shots, but it does strike me as uneven balancing.
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>>388176703
Fuck off, I still have nightmares about double Zarya. Over half the team bubbled every team fight and you just have to let them kill you or run off the objective, otherwise you have two fully charged dykes pushing your shit in constantly.
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Oh boy I can't wait for the retards who actually think it's viable and get fucking smoked by Soldier 76/McCrees all day
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>>388172658
Because deep down they know arena shooters are the ideal video game and unconsciously want to make Overwatch one, but their poor judgement is keeping them from it.
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mercy and pharah just got worse
>pharah died
>just ress her instantly
gg jeff blizzard balancing at finest again
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>>388177016
>>388176893
Sure am ready for the chat to be flooded with MERCY MERCY RES ME MERCY PLEASE
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>>388177030
It will be pushed live
Then the masses will complain about it
THEN it will be changed

But Blizzard doesn't do anything with PTR, not even bug fixes.
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>>388177195
Oh man I didn't even think of that
Oh shit
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>>388177186
You do know the rez takes 5 seconds right? When Pharah dies in midair while showering rockets over the enemy team, Mercy can't just land in there and stand still for 5 seconds to bring the bird woman back.

And if your Pharah dies inside your own team don't bring her back because she's playing it wrong.
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>>388172658
The problem is this game is so rigid and stale and with the limited mechanics you don't have much of an impact playing non dps so they are trying to fix that.
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>>388176641
Better than Overwatch.
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>D.Va defense matrix nerfed
>Mercy can revive at will
>Mercy also has a Chinese bootleg ubercharge on steroids and cocaine

Oh boy time for the Immortal Pharmercy meta.
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>>388177584
Yeah dude, can't wait to continue shooting your retarded Mercy into uselessness with McCree
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>>388177171
Is Quake Champions any good?
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>>388177727
It's decent
It's got the nostalgia factor working for it too
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>>388177047
The only skills in the game that should one shot are Rein's pin and sniper headshots on squishy heroes. Charge is fine where it's at, and you can't really give a cooldown to sniper shots (but they def need to look into increasing Hanzo's split arrow cooldown, fuck that shit.)

Of course, Blizzard thinks otherwise.
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>>388177584
Mechassault D.va says hi
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>>388177195
Man, playing mercy is so hard :/
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>>388177869
Technically they already have a cooldown on sniper headshots since you have to charge the shots to get those one hit kills

That's how it should be
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>>388176641
When I saw the "hero shooter" antics in Quake Champions, I was admittedly very apprehensive.

But none of them are real gamechangers the same Overwatch is just grind-and-ult, just another weird thing you have to account for.

But at its core, it's very much a Quake game and it'll be the thing to scratch that arena itch since Bethesda'll be throwing weight behind it.
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>>388176646
What Pharah needs is a complete rework to make her viable for high-level but engageable by the usual player.
>give her suit a 50 HP regenerating shield that doubles as suit power
>drains slowly during flight and shuts down jetpack in the event of depletion or heavy damage
>right mouse can charge up to three rockets like the Unreal Tournament rocket launcher; multi-shot rockets do less damage individually but add up to more
>ult is replaced by a rocket boost that works like D.Va's or Mercy's new ult and allows rockets to be fired and reloaded at 4x speed; pressing Q again before the timer runs out engages Barrage
>rockets do less damage to self and have increased knockback; now Pharah can rocket jump at the expense of suit power
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>>388177951
>dva can missle and dm at the same time WHILE flying now
>still thinks pharmercy will survive

Im cumming in my fucking pants this ptr is amazing
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Aren't Dva missiles a better version of Pharah's ult?

Shoot missiles, while you move, with actual aiming. Pharah's ult is hit or miss.
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>>388165924
>implying it's not mccree/pharah
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>>388178101
I'm going full Gundam
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>>388178137
No because they do piss damage.
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>D.va's missiles do 200 damage
>Junkrat's buffs help his viability and pickrate
>Mercy can't hide behind a wall and press Q after a wipe
These are all Zarya buffs.
It might look like they're for other characters, but it's actually all to help Zarya maintain a charge and shit on the opposing team
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>>388178361
They're inadvertent Sombra buffs too, the more characters the game has that rely on their abilities to do the bulk of their damage, the more hacking becomes fun as FUCK.

Doomfist is a huge target right now.
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I like how people are clinging to the pistol ult buff because they cant think of anything to shit on with the Mercy change.

Mercy's skill roof just raised, her new playstyle encourages healing above all else, but you call her battle mercy all because they buffed her pistol a little for her ult.

You niggers are desperate to tear Overwatch down. Get over it Paladinfags, Overwatch is better.
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>>388160294
I like how one segment of her new ult is now orisa's ult
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>>388177869
DF's punch isn't that different from Rein's pin.

That said I wasn't really saying One shots should or shouldn't exist. Just that its strange that they have enough common sense to give Rez a long cooldown, but oddly don't have that problem with abilities that can kill.
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>>388178661
Goddamn that's some shit art.
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>>388178137
You have to hit every single missile for it to do 200 damage
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>>388178868
Not sure how right that is. I think they can crit too.
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>>388178661
It's funny because Blizzard already said they think her pistol does too much damage so it'll be changed anyway
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>>388178758
>DF's punch isn't that different from Rein's pin

Except for the grossly different cooldown, grossly different hitbox, the fact that Charge leaves Rein vulnerable, specially if he misses and the fact that Charge doesn't fucking create shields for him even when it kills the sod you pinned.

So yeah, not that different.
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>>388172658
> holy trinity mechanics in an FPS is a good idea

There's a reason no "perfect" games have this shit.
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>>388178782
Here ya go.
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>>388178782
You saying you could draw better, cunt?
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>>388178995
Different cooldown yes.

Hitbox.. Well sorta yes. DF's hitbox for it is far smaller with the PTR changes.

Punch leaves DF vulnerable too, also its a very very small shield at best.
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Genji, Mei, and Pharah remain untouched... fucking really?
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>>388178758
>>388178995
>tfw Widow's grappling hook, her fucking GRAPPLING HOOK, has a cooldown of TWELVE. MOTHER. FUCKING. SECONDS.
And yet the majority of gamers STILL defend Blizzard to the death.
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>>388178039
The only ability that's bothering me is doom slayers. Why does it look so shitty?
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>>388179341
They recently fixed that actually, though I agree with you that it is ridiculous that it was so fucking high to begin with.
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>>388166970
This is gonna be great, always annoying when you put your shield up and you want to get a shatter or charge in only to realize you team buggered off the moment you do because you couldnt look behind you and you wasted an apportunity and die.
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>>388179334
>Maining 3 pieces of shit

You remain irrelevant
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>>388179334
If you're still having issues with Mei in 2017 you should quit playing, cause I don't ever see anybody pick her in comp anymore
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>traveling to Hanamura
>prepare to attack
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>>388179304
>you cant say food is shit unless you can cook better
>you cant say a movie is shit unless you are a director
>you cant say a video game is shit unless you are a gaming dev
>you cant criticize the feminist movement unless you are a feminist
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>>388176893
30s is nothing if you bring the tank back up
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>>388179304
Criticism is not only valid if it comes from someone objectively better than you, cunt.
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>>388166970
PS4 players have been able to do that with the right analog stick since day one

Just saying :-)
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>>388179431
huh?
>>
>>388179341
Its 8 now retard get with the times
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>>388179513
You can't criticize a problem if you don't have a solution. Calling something shit and saying nothing else might as well have the impact of a fart in the wind.
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>>388179334
>Genji
The game is basically 50% babysitting Genjis. You nerf him and you alienate like half the playerbase. You buff him and the game becomes slower and more miserable.
>Mei
Seriously?
>Pharah
Too underutilized to be nerfed, but any buff would make her too powerful
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>>388179513
>>388179587
>Have a phd in neuroscience
>Some high school kid says that your research and knowledge is bad
>"dam lol well he's in high school but i guess he's right lmao"

Dumbfucks
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>>388179431
Make sure you sign up for english 9 when school starts because you sure as fuck dont know how to read
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>>388178931
They cant crit.
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>>388180000
>Pharah is barely used
>But making her a bit stronger would make her broken
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>>388180010
I-I.. have a degree though...... :^(

So hows your mom doing, I guess you see her everyday
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>>388179483
>traveling to Hanamura
>tink, tink, tink, tink, tink tink tink tink tinktinktinktink tink, tink... tink tink.. tunk tunk... YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>388179967
That's still twice that of Doomnigger's insta-death punch.
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>>388180174
Not as often as I see your mom.
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>>388180161
What could you possibly do? She does piss damage outside of direct hits and the average player is too shit to get direct hits, buffing her would just make the ones who are good with her get way too out of hand
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>>388178952
>not going all the way up to Diamond as battlemercy

That pistol is actually pretty good. Combined with automatic health regen, you can fuck shitters up real nice.
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>>388171618
>going on an Easter egg hunt for the mercy (or she could just be hiding in spawn where you can't kill her)
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>>388180174
My mom's doing pretty alright, thanks for asking. I would ask you how yours is doing but I already know because I had a good time with her last night :)
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>>388180261
>she wants widow to be able to fly
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>>388180272
See >>388178085
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>>388175998
If women want to be treated as equals, every single double standard should be destroyed, not just the ones that benefit men.
Since the zeitgeist requires women being treated as equals, you're a massive faggot if you support female pedos
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>>388180378
Well Pharah can fly and unlike Widow she doesn't even need to aim.
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>>388180267
>>388180367
>posting a rough draft comeback
>>/college/
>>
>>388180272
Buff her concussion/flight

Give her armor

Make barrage not shit

There's a lot they can do, the decks just don't like touching her for some reason
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>>388160294

Overwatch is a bad game.
>>
>>388180378
SPIDERMAN
SPIDERMAN
DOES WHATEVER A SPIDER DOES
>>
As a person who mained mercy in s1 these changes makes me interested in retrying the game.
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>>388180272
Increase her survivability instead of damage output? I don't think anyone out there with an opinion worth considering complains about Pharah's damage. It's the fact that she works more exposed than basically everyone else with no survivability whatsoever.

Tracer is squisher than her, but much smaller, faster and can recall health. Genji has his get me outta here button and a damage negation ability. Even fucking McCree can immobilize the enemy for a free kill. Soldier, Sombra and Niggafist straight up heal themselves.
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>>388180489
Oh so you are a girl lol well this explains it
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>>388162730
>>
Thank god maybe I won't be bored to tears anymore after being forced into playing a healer so I can win cause the rest of the team is a bunch of faggots
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>>388180647
But Widow is the one girls play when they're not Mercy.
Pharah's main audience are arena shooter players who don't have much of a choice in what to play now that their games of choice have become barren wastelands of stray aimbot autists.
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>>388169960
>>388170121
>can shoot/defend while missiling
I was wondering why the damage on them is so shit
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>>388181081
Girls play anyone who doesnt require mechanical skill on their part like Mei
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>>388181387
I want to fuck her/him.
>>
>>388177030
The only PTR changes that were changed before going live were Ana's damage reduction. Everything else goes live then gets fixed.
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>>388180010
Science is not the same as art. Science is objective, art is subjective.
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>>388182609
If art is completely subjective, how can it be taught?
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>>388162730
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>>388181387
>girl

nice try u tranny subhuman faggot
>>
>>388181291
They do 218 damage total if they all hit. Barely enough to kill a squishy and only if they all land somehow. Geoff is slowly turning D. Va into something completely different from what she was made to be so that he can finally put in the mecha pilot character he's been yearning to put in that does exactly what D. Va was originally made to do for months.
>>
>>388160294
Just make the shitty pistol also heal teammates
>>
>>388181081
>Pharah mains are either arena shooter vets or people so insistent on using a mid-level hero with no retard-proofing that they understand the importance of cooperating and synergizing with teammates

Well that explains why they tend to be among the more well-behaved of OW mains.
>>
>>388176846
Go fuck yourself you faggot

If I got some pussy at 8 years old I would feel like a fucking champ for the rest of my adolescence
>>
>>388162730
>magic mirror on the wall, what is the falsest flag of them all?
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So what the fuck, they're just leaving Roadhog for dead?
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>>388171379
But that's exactly what valkyries do lol, they take people who died in battle and have them become einherjar who get a 2nd fight in ragnarok so yes, suicide rushing then getting ressed is the correct use of Mercy.
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>>388184106
he gets 50% dmg reduction and can move while using take a breather
i.e. he can feed ults easier by being able to use his entire health ability before dying
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>>388165924
Cant wait for it.
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>>388174840
Mei is a budget tank with how hard it is to kill that chubby bitch
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>>388184230
To be fair ults should charge slower when damage reduction is up, so it is still pretty much an objective buff. Its just not a good enough one.
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Overwatch is genuinely the most unfun and unsatisfying game I've ever played.
I've gotten a one man team kill as Reaper before and singlehandedly brought the game back from the brink and I felt nothing because we've been put in that shitty scenario to begin with thanks to my team.

Every game is just the same shit that blurs together. Some fag is just there wasting space and essentially throwing because he's assmad that we're not conforming to whatever hip meta team is out, half the people completely forget the objective exists and go trying to get simply epic POTGs and picks, basically leaving it against maybe 2v6. Or you're lucky enough for it to be 6v2 and steamroll them with absolutely zero resistance or effort. Everything about this game seems like it actively discourages teamwork, from getting eliminations pop up on your screen even if someone else did 90 percent of the work. It still counts as a kill you did, inflating everyone's K:D ratio and more importantly, their ego. Nobody can check stats so they just say "trust me bro, I got gold in damage" when they're clearly not working. POTGs are rewarded to only one person for pressing Q correctly.
>>
>>388183394
Life isn't like your japanese animes you pathetic faggot. Go outside.
>>
>>388182373
Anas grenade healing nerf didnt go through
Zen being able to orb through barriers was also gone.
They also didnt put live mercys 50% dmg beam.

But thats only 4 things out of about 70 by now
>>
>>388164660
Honestly her new ult makes Orisa even more useless. Damage boosting your whole team basically turns Mercy into a flying unkillable bongo.
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>>388184983
you're so real bro. you can really see through overwatch and understand it all
>>
>>388187072
Au contrare, her new ult and Orisa's ult stack. 80% damage increase, anyone?
>>
>Nano Valkyrie turns Mercy into a nigh unstoppable attack helicopter that can solo entire teams
WHOOPS DIDN'T TEST THIS WITH PEOPLE WHO CAN ACTUALLY AIM DID YOU BLIZZARD
>>
>>388160294
>actively discouraging the player to heal
What. Healing is literally the fastest way to build up her ult.
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>>388187382
That's sure to get nerfed, they rushed this ptr I think.
>>
So, what's gonna change from current PTR on your opinion?
Because there is no way to all of these changes will be on the game.
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>>388178292
>mcree/sombra
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>>388187684
Reload on Mercy's gun while ulting, maybe damage nerf too. Stacking of damage buffs while supercharged/nano'ed
>>
>>388185654
Does leaving the house magically instill you with the knowledge of how a child abuse victim feels?
Some boys probably will feel like champs with no negative sides
>>
>>388162730
This
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>>388176893
What's to stop stall tactics at high level where you switch off Mercy as soon as you die so you get a res every ~15 seconds?
>>
>>388173662
You respawn after six seconds. Can only rez double kills effectively now
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>>388168717
>"SJW are a boogeyman anon, they don't exist"
>Google engineer gets fired because he wrote a perfectly reasonable, and even positive memo based on research and facts because it hurt some tumblrina feelings
>"SJW don't exist they are a boogeyman, go back to /pol/"
>dude gets kicked from Con for asking a joke question "are traps gay" (that the youtuber asked himself on a podcast)
>"wtf anon SJW don't exist, don't let the boogeyman get to your mind"
>people are repeatedly doxxed and are losing their jobs and normal life because angry mob mistook them for someone who was at the alt-right rally
>"b-but anon, they are just a boogeyman!"
yea fucking kill yourself
>>
>>388160294
Broken as fuck
https://youtu.be/HCNqrWBGLsg
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>>388162821
>Her being alive is no longer literally the only thing determining victory or defeat
>She must now be completely worthless

Don't be retarded, anon.
>>
>>388160294
>Mercy is no longer just a resbot

Thank God now I can actually play her now
>>
>>388160294
>actively discouraging the player to heal
That's exactly why they removed rez as ult. Anyways, they also acknowledged that her gun was too strong during Valkyrie, hell she was probably better for Nano Boost than Dragonblade and Tact Visor, so they're toning it down
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>>388160294
probably want it to be faster paced so they don't have to fix their bottleneck map design
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>>388162180
>"total free kill" in FPS games
She is not that weak.
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>>388181081
>But Widow is the one girls play when they're not Mercy.
You mean Dva.
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