Are there any real downsides to PC gaming? I'm not trying

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>>388158206
Sorry OP you're not allowed to say anything bad about consoles, the defence force doesn't like it.
>>388158690
>>388158737

Exclusives and a lower cost of entry is the only real benefit to consoles nowadays.

They're not idiot-proof.

the difference of hardware and drivers from one PC to the next. Game can run great on one PC and like shit on another just because of some stupid things. For example, I can't launch Dota 2 if my gamepad is plugged in. Also operating system can be a pain in the ass - game works great on W7, doesn't work well on W10 etc. PC is technically superior, but it requires maintenance and troubleshooting which drives people off

They're idiotproof and "intelegent proof".

The real downside to pc gaming is vulnerability of privacy.

The biggest downside is having to actually play games instead of just talking shit about ones you've never played, which is what happens when you accumulate games from cheap steam sales/gog/humble bundles/etc.

Console
>put disc in
>play game

PC
>buy multiple parts that cost $1000 for a decent build
>have to manually put together all the components
>keyboard is uncomfortable and confusing since 95% of the buttons have no input on the game
>you have to replace all your parts every 1.5 years as the graphics cards become worse over time and run worse
>have to install a video game license rental service like Steam
>have to play $60 for recently released games but have no benefits as physical copy
>there are constant updates for games slowing down the chance of playing the game
>games constantly crash and run into compatibility problems
>Nvidia gimps their cards with Gameworks to make you buy their newer hardware
>try to play some indie games but most are uninspired rip offs of older SNES games I played
>try a early access to literally alpha test a game with barely any content and runs poorly
>can't let my friends borrow my games without jumping though huge obsoletes and even then we can't play each others games if the other is playing a different game at the time
>try to play older games from my childhood on N64 and PS2 emulators
>try to plug in my controller to use for more comfortablility but it requires multiple drivers and constantly rebind the controls every time I switch games
>download emulator for them but they take a while to get the right settings and even then the games run poorly and are missing textures and other graphical glitches
>try to play older PC I heard from others but the run into compatibility problems and constantly crashes when tried to play
>try to play a fun looking multiplayer game but the game is filled with hackers and childern and young teens constantly spouting memes
>try to play split screen with my friends but hardly any games supports split screen and is a hassle to set up
>start playing less and less and go on /v/ and shitpost more about games even ones I never even played

What is the point of PC gaming?

>>388159259
How is that specific to a platform?

>>388158206
If we're being legitimate the real advantages of consoles are

1. Exclusives
2. Timed Exclusives (for those of us who are impatient)
3. Potentially longer living online, generally MP for console games last longer than PC versions
4. Less or no hacking
5. Idiot proof setting up, you're not going to have a driver issue on a console

I have a fantastic PC as well as a ps4 and 3ds. I played a lot of consoles back in the PS1/PS2 days but iv slowly moved to PC and now only game on PC.

That being said I barely play at all because of work and the lack of good new titles. The only things that look good in the future are Bannerlord, MHW and Warhammer 2 to me. Graphics really need to screw off, they bloat development time and gameplay has become second place to having a pretty game for your marketing trailers.

>>388159052
>>388159229
How is this bad?
>>388159083
this

Not getting console exclusives, which these days is rarer than not unless it's made by nintendo.

PC's do tend to cost more at the beginning simply buying the components, assuming you're building one that's at least somewhat better than console specs, but game sales, seasonal, humble bundles, g2a and whatever other odd sale from time to time makes the games much cheaper in general and evens it out, or even ends up being cheaper if you play a lot of games.

They cost more. The meme that they only cost 600 bucks or something like that is fucking ridiculous. You want to put at least a grand on them (with monitor, keyboard and mouse).

Aside from that, I agree. PC is the best.

>>388158206
Some console games arent playable on pc, some old games require a bit of configuration to get working, or very rarely simply won't work at all, and to get the hardware fit for your own needs at a reasonable price requires a bit of research. That's all that comes to mind.

Pricing is one. PC gaymen is far cheaper and easier than ever but some parts can still be pricey, also because modern AAA games are horribly bloated or unoptimized.

Also because some things will work on PCs and somethings wont. I personally can never launch Far Cry 1 no matter where I get it from for example but I can play the other Crysis games mostly fine.

>>388159515
yeah but on PC you can pirate :^)

>>388159083
/thread
TLDR ; compatibility. I remember even small details like running on admin mode could have a huge difference

>>388159418
>compatibility issues and controller problems
Go back to your console games, you low IQ nigger

If you're a casual gamer, PCs cost too much money, are finicky, require more knowhow than consoles, and lack of compelling exclusives is absolutely a downside.

Before you respond to this post saying "yeah but I'm not a fucking retard so I know how to use a PC" try to understand that not everyone is you.

You have to spend four grand to play PC games guys.

>>388159687
Thanks I'll go back to things that constantly work :)

>but it costs so much
No one said you have to but the 9 billion dollar computer? You can pick up the 300 dollar computer and play a huge amount of games

>>388159826
Enjoy never upgrading ;)

>>388159702
yeah but how is that a downside? That's like saying "i cant play console games because i dont know how to work an xbox"

>>388159837
>huge
>not 90% of games

>>388159732
>>388159858
Make up your fucking mind, namefag. Are you with PC or against it?

>>388159837
That's the thing, though. For 300 dollars, you can get a console for a lot of games.

Meanwhile, for 300 dollars, you get the same games on PC but with pretty bad performance/graphics, which is just not worth it.

>>388159702
>lack of compelling exclusives
Mechanically complex games like Rimworld, Kerbal Space Program, and ARMA are exclusive, though admittedly not for ADHD retards who watch sports. FPS games are effectively PC exclusive because they are neutered the point of being obsolete on consoles. Literally the only value in an a multiplayer FPS game is its skill cap/gap. Games that are casual garbage but can be modded into being playable like Skyrim are effectively PC exclusive.

Then of course if you're a fan of classic games you can own every classic console and game ever made right on your PC for free.

>>388159937
The point is consoles are significantly easier to use than PCs.

It's not uncommon to read some forum post about some issue befalling someone trying to play a PC game that just doesn't work. They futz around with hardware, adjust settings, reinstall drivers, try to find patches and fan fixes, ask around for guidance from other people who may have had the same issue, etc. etc.

That scenario simply doesn't happen on consoles, and if you're not the kind of person who wants to deal with that shit, it is definitively a downside to PC gaming.

You asked, you got an answer. Don't pretend it doesn't count because it doesn't apply to you specifically.

>>388160003
If you buy a 300 dollar computer, you have access to practically all PC games made before 2012

That's far more than any current gen console can play, or any console for that matter

>>388159702
>casual gamer
>what is the sims
>what are sp games with huge mod scene
>what are casual mmorpgs like gw2

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>>388159418
Wow what a home run post! Now I guess I'll throw my computer out and just play Age of Empires II on my xbox!

>>388160110
For 300 dollars you can play, emulate and buy over 87% of the entire library that is known to man on PC.

Consoles need to be hacked, softmodded and hardmodded to emulate anything, the market is limited to games announced for it, the PSN and XBLA are isulated against anything really new and original.

The difference is like night and day. If you like playing video games and aren't equipping yourself with brand name rhetoric, PC is the way to go.

>>388158206
Some of the best exclusives are on console

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>>388160134
>FPS games are effectively PC exclusive

>>388160448
http://xb1emu.com

Consoles are for fast food, PCs are for home cooking.

>>388160579
Why does tis detract from PC being able to do the same thing? Is this egalitarian or equity?

>>388160469
>Some of the best exclusives are on multiple consoles, plus you can emulate many of them
ftfy

>>388160579
>have to pay to emulate
fucking hell

aside from things like performance problems if you're running on a performance PC and console exlcusives, I can't really see any downsides to PC gaming, specially if you have more than one monitor

>>388160134
>FPS games are effectively PC exclusive because they are neutered the point of being obsolete on consoles. Literally the only value in an a multiplayer FPS game is its skill cap/gap.
FPS is going the way of RTS though, OW has dumbed down the genre even more than Halo and CoD did and now anything with even minor mechanical complexity is dying in favor of more fucking hero shooters.

>>388160674
>Consoles need to be hacked, softmodded and hardmodded to emulate anything
wasn't true

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>>388158737
um...sweetie...

>>388159496
It's bad because the sons of Olympus can watch you download dolphin porn while playing CS:GO.

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>>388158206
They are unsuitable as a gift for children from tech fearing parents.
Keyboards don't yet come with a analogue stick, although you can pickup a G13. One finger for all directions is more efficient than wasd, in addition to the gradient values.
They are are harder to dev for than a single uniform hardware configuration.
Consoles don't require win10 to obtain hardware HDR support, although xbox is likely already using a cut down version anyway.
Keeping drivers up to date is a minor inconvenience but I suppose I've seen some system updates for consoles once in a blue moon.
Juggling multiple storefront applications on PC is a another minor quibble.

>>388158206
Unless you have a really good and pricey rig, you're never quite sure how well a recent game will run.
That's the only downside, for me. The initial investment is quite high, and you have to suck in a lot of info if you want to choose parts wisely.

>>388160882
The capacity for emulation is huge, and limited only by the contrnt available to the consumer. Posting a link and arguing that softmods aren't necessary when you need devtools or any authentication at all isn't generally an alternative.

>>388158206
Sometimes old PC games don't work I guess. As Operation Systems 'improve'.

>>388159052
>>388159496
They really are idiot proof though. FAR more people PC game than console.

>>388161214
I want to play sotc remastered and the last guardian but my brother has a ps4 already. It just comes down to whatever you like playing. Some people don't actually like video games and just buy new shit.

>>388159418
600 dollar pc has been running good for 5 years. Just upgraded to little past PS4 pro level grafix and still running at smooth 60 fps at 4k.

Poorfags too stupid to know how to spend money efficiently buy consoles.

>>388161183
>moving the goal post

Physical copies are more difficult to come by, need some basic knowledge regarding hardware, may have to fuck around with drivers, the annoying compatibility issues and overabundance of garbage on platforms like steam although this only affects the normies.

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>>388159418
>keyboard is uncomfortable and confusing since 95% of the buttons have no input on the game

Thx for the bait

>>388161832
Nice argumen- oh wait

>>388161713
>spending double the price of a console is spending money efficiently

????

>>388158206
I was considering to get a PC for MonHun, but I ended up deciding for PS4 because the initial investment is much higher and the online will last way longer,

>>388159418
kek, I laughed dude.

Is this OC?

>>388162014
As said previously in the thread, you can spend 300 dollars on a computer and be set. Once it gets old enough, you toss it and upgrade. The same way you would when a new console comes out

>>388162014
Less than a grand for whats going to be 10 years of my PCs life cycle. Then i can retire, resale, or reuse it for the next console cycle that coming up in 2022.

>>388162209
You're making a mistake.
>paying for online
>PS4 has barely any other games

>>388161795
>playing at red herring

There's no shame in admittig things. Go ahead, speak your heart.

>>388162014
It is if you want access to a vast library of vidya as well as vastly expanded fufunctionality. It's not efficient if you only want a box to play flavor of the month.

The pc vs console debate is really only solvable at an individual level, and only once the individual has a purpose and budget in mind.

The real question is what's the reason to buy an xbone anymore?

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>>388158206
>consoles
>limited libraries

What? Most of what's on Steam is absolute garbage. There isn't a single exclusive I play on PC that I can't play on console. The other complaints are completely valid though and are the main reason I own a PC. I'm not going to pay again to use my internet and I'm not going to play FPS using a controller. I only have a PS4 for weeb games and buy everything else on PC.

>>388158206
main issue is timed exclusives

everyone's going to play sonic mania/whatever half a month before you, and you won't get through that spoiler free even with filters unless you literally abandon this shitty site

>>388162541
I bought three of them to form a stepladder, it makes changing lightbulbs easier.

The better question is why are PC players constantly having to assert their "superiority". Could you imagine using this as a pickup line at a bar? Literally NOOOOO ONNNNE gives a shit.

Also, ummm sweaty, if you hate consoles so much, stop trying to use stuff like the XIM 4.

>>388162520
The debate is solvable at the financial level. That's why it's so frustrating. If you look at the numbers, it doesn't get any better. People wi consoles have money, and people with PC's are spread across the spectrum. You don't need to be a nuclear chemist to build a pc.

>>388162579
Steam library being mostly garbage doesn't actually matter because that still leaves a fuck ton of great games. The fact that you don't know any good PC exclusives is your problem though and likely untrue as you talk about FPS games. Many of the best ones aren't even on consoles, or at best are so gimped no one sane would touch them.

>>388162630
>abandon this shitty site
but how!? this shit's like a symbiote/parasite,i wanna leave but keep coming back

>>388162953
>The debate is solvable at the financial level.
You mean like once someone has a budget?

>>388159418
If mods were cool they'd public ban this obvious shit.

>>388163584


/r/ gaming is that way sweaty >>>>>>>

>>388158206
Ok, I'll answer you legit, cause I game on PC more than I do console for the last like 10 years or so. So, some of the downsides are: Hardware related problems, like things breaking or overheating, and because most people will be doing their gaming on their main machine they use for both data and gaming you probably will run into storage and data loss issues somewhere down the line.
Backwards compatibility is there but sometimes it can be a bitch especially with older dos games that you have to run in dosbox.
Despite what everyone tells you not 100% of games control well with a mouse and keyboard right out of the box and need tweaking, or just a controller altogether. There's some stigma attached to using a controller that I don't understand, but I love my 360 controller and I wouldn't play a lot of emulated games or action games without it (Looking at you Nier Automata)

>>388163694
call me sweety one more time it makes my dick rock hard

>>388162579
Noone cares about your specs winfag, take it back to /g/.

>>388158206
the heat holy shit it's fucking terrible,I'd rather not game in a room 90°F all the time

My question is why do PC players invest upwards of thousands of dollars to play mostly games like pic related that dont even make use of their hardware?

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>>388164363

Forgot pic

>>388163876
Building a PC is simple, but getting it to work right can be a bitch depending what hardware and software you have. Make sure everything will work together before you make the machine.
Windows can be hard to work with, Windows 10 is stupidly restrictive (like Vista), 8 is basically 7 with a new start menu, and all the options hidden, 7 is going to be killed by MS soon, fuck Vista, and XP is good but old and lots of stuff just won't work with it anymore. Your best bet is 7 or 8.1 but I have no expirence with 8.1 so take that with a grain of salt. Also, don't listen to OSwar fag toting the alleged superiority of Linux or Unix. They're worse than consolewarfags because they aren't kidding and think you're inferior for using 1s and 0s a different way than they do.
A lot of newer PC games require you to have the best hardware not because the GFX are good but because they're optimized poorly

>>388164363
Some people are stupid regardless of platform. Also, most people are financially illiterate.

autistic communities in every game

>>388158206
Poorfags are excluded

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>>388160473
>playing shooters on a console
WEW
EW
W

Not same anon but you can always tell if someone's playing on a console when watching a let's play because the aiming is stiff and awful (and/or assisted, kek)

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>>388164631
>A lot of newer PC games require you to have the best hardware not because the GFX are good but because they're optimized poorly
Let me expand on this: For example take the game ARK: Survival Evolved. This game looks like plastic, feels sluggish, take up way too many resources such as RAM and the all important HDD space and It's arguably harder to run than Crisis but with the map size of Skyrim (see pic) which almost anyone can run without major popin issues Sure Ark has tons of flora and fauna that need to be rendered, some of it absolutely massive, but there is no way that is should use up as much power and space that it does.
Ahem, moving on.
A gaming PC, as many people in this thread have pointed out, can be quite expensive, and prices of old models don't drop as fast. Also, it take a quite a bit of looking into and research than, say, a PS4.
That basically sums up the major pitfalls of PC gaming over Console gaming.

>>388163876
>>388164631
>>388166103
Before I go, I do want to say that there are ways to overcome these pitfalls, workarounds and such. With the advent of Youtube you can find a video on almost any problem one would have.

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>>388164363
>>388165056
What does your hardware have to do with having fun? I have a 1070 and an i7 and mostly I play TERA, SC2, or emulate games, but when I want to I can play anything.

>>388167772
If your hardware didn't matter you would not have mentioned what you had

>>388159052
This. You gotta be able to deal with troubleshooting if it arises. And you have to put up with shit ports.

>>388158206
sometimes shit doesnt work for your OS and you have to mess around for 5 minutes for it to run nicely

thats about it

>>388167894
Who said hardware didn't matter?