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Guess who's back?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KGPQbZ3QWg

Also, hope you didn't get attached to Strelitzia for long. What the fuck is going on in Kingdom Hearts anymore? Nomura is on fucking cocaine. Why do they let him get away with this shit?

New KH discussion thread
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>Nomura'd
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>People are complaining about the lack of strong female characters in the series
>Creates Aqua
>Fans love Aqua because she's a strong female character done right
>Fans want more strong female characters
>Creates Skuld and Strelitzia
>Fans love Strelitzia design and want to know more about her
>"lol jk gonna kill the bitch"

I want off Nomura's wild ride
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>Ven and Marluxia are time travelers
Im so fucking conflicted. I want to drop the series immediately but I'm so hyped for KH 3. I don't know what to do /v/. I just can't handle the levels of bullshit anymore
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when the heart floats away like that then they are fucking dead. Wow didn't expect Nomura to have the balls to kill off anybody in this series besides Riku Replica
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>>388154495
Just drop it after KH 3. That's what I'm doing
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So, Marluxia can wield a Keyblade now? I'm so fucking confused
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>>388155475
I don't think so. I think this is a red herring. Blaine is the killer
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>>388154495
>time travel
They just waited out the Keyblade War in another dimension.
Really more of a stasis than moving through time.
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>>388153703
Demyx will turn out to be Master of Masters. Screencap this.
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>>388156232
No it's time travel. It's already been established in DDD and that's the only possible way this can work
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>>388156375
Master of Masters is Braig though
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>>388156426
that's not how the time travel in kh works
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>>388156503
How does anything work in KH?
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What do you think his keyblade looks like? A smaller version of his scythe or something?
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>Marluxia knew what was in the Book of Prophecy
>The reason he betrayed the Organization is because he knew about Xemnas's plan from Day 1
>There was no way for him to know about his failure because there were no Gazing Eyes in Castle Oblivion
>The new foretellers were likely recommended my the MoM, a man purely dedicated to fucking with everyone in the most glorious fashion possible

it's a shame we lost a top tier waifu in a series that's starved for female characters, but I'm glued to this ruse cruise now
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>>388154076
The only cool thing about Aqua is that she's overpowered as fuck and does back flips and shit like every other playable protag.

Otherwise shes boring fap bait with a half asleep voice actor. She's not even good fap bait either cus you fags only draw Axel and Roxas eating other out.
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>>388156879
I'd fuck him
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>>388156481
>missing eye
>black robe
I believe it
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>>388157215
I would fuck any of the sqeenix fun bunch from these games tbph
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So is he going to be the REAL final boss of KH or something? I don't even know what the fuck is going on anymore. Why couldn't they just stick to what they outlined in the first game instead of going full retard with the story and characters?
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>>388156426
>>388156729
KH Time travel requires that you already be present at the time you're trying to go to.
Traveling back in time requires not having a body, being a Heartless counts, but then you can give your past selves the ability to go forward in time.
If you go forward in time you eventually have to go back to the past and lose all memories of the future but will be influenced to make decisions that will lead to that future.

So no, going outside of the dimension to wait is nothing like KH's normal crazy ass time travel bullshit.
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>>388156729
Blaine confirmed for Soranort
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Anybody else not shocked at all by Strelitzia getting killed so suddenly and unexpectedly? I mean we're dealing with Nomura here the same man who came up with killing Aerith
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>>388157215
Her.
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I'm working my way through a marathon of the series and I'm on BbS at the moment

Is Braig supposed to be kicking my ass? I'm on Proud mode, Terra's route in Radiant Garden, I'm only level 12 and I can barely even damage him.
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>>388157891
No Lauriam is a guy and I will go full fag for him
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>>388158047
You're underleved anon. You should be at least level 20 by then
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How important is Union X for the general story? Am I missing out on skipping on that or is Squeenix yet again putting canon lore in phone games?
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>>388158215
RIP me

Thanks for the head's up anon
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>>388158047
Level curves in BBS are weird, if you're not atleast at the needed level, enemies will take almost no damage and likely one shot you.

Also human bosses in BBS are the absolute worst in the series. The entire battle system is against you.
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>>388158328
It's basically the rules and law and the whole back bone for the world so important
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FREYA WHEN?
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>>388158657
Fuck off furfag
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>>388158531
fuck me then.

Given that I start now, how much time will I have to invest to play through the main story? Granted that I don't spend a single dime on micro transactions.
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How does Union X play?

I am at a brick wall with 2 other mobages because the plot has stopped for updates and all I can do now is level
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>>388158657
>four commas in a single sentence
>that stilted flow
The person who made this is either stupid or not a native english speaker.
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>>388158385
No problem. Also make sure you have Second Chance and Once More abilities. You will need them against Zack in Olympus or you will get raped beyond belief . Difficulty spike out of no fucking where
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>>388158657
>This """"""""""""""""English""""""""""""""""""
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>>388158328
it seems like it might be pretty important
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>>388156481
Nah, Braig is just Xehanort's and Eraqus' master. MoM is too kind to be Braig.
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>>388158754
The sad thing is they are making the whole game "main game" sure there will be missions with no story but down the line i'm pretty sure you have to go through a lot like 700 ish missions are currently out. If you want you can actually skip the game and just watch gameplay and do some research time in and time out. That what i'm doing and i got basically the whole story with some minor gaps
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>>388153703
Why are they releasing all these important pieces of lore for a smartphone game?
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>>388159108
there's a youtube playlist somewhere that I think has all the cutscenes
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>>388159256
because Nomura
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>>388156879
that was quick
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>>388159308
this would be a god send must find
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>>388158385
use terra's surge spells, they're his only saving grace
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so will strelitzia come back or is she dead as a doornail
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>>388158812
anyone?
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>>388159530
>Kingdom hearts?
>People dead?

kek
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>>388158657
I love when furfags rewrite characters to suit their bull shit comics. Play the fucking games you faggots.
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>>388153703
I don't care how stupid or contrived it is. I'm glad this beautiful scythe wielding fuck is relevant again. I hope the other non Xehanort/Radiant Garden 13 members are going to be brought back as well. Would definitely like seeing Larxene, Luxord and Demyx again
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>>388159546
Load deck with characters and action
battle begins
use cards to do action and attacks (no movement)
move to next battle
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>>388159508
You're apparently not searching hard enough, it's the same youtube channel as the video from the OP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6NVTZlqw1k&list=PLPCJnwphQDQcJOkD9OsmxxMHX7YHE4WP2&index=1

Hope you at least brought the spoon yourself.

I still want to know how much hours of "gameplay" I have to actually put into it to clear the story content of that game
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is there somewhere I can read what the fuck is going on with X in general? i don't care if I had to read it or watch some youtube channel. Im not going to play this part but it looks like I should
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>>388159546
Kek, nobody dies in KH. The thought LMAFO
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>>388157824
Everyone knew she was gonna die. Kinda unexpected to kill her right after her intro (cheap drama) but I don't think people doubted her death.
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>>388159997
>never played KH1
Remember Clayton?
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>>388159530
>>388159657
She's actually dead. Like Riku Replica dead. When the heart floats away then you are dead . The Keybladr War cutscenes in X chi confirmed this
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>>388154495
Wait what? Ven is a time traveler?
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KH3's story is going to be such a clusterfuck

I hope everyone involved in this mess dies or gets their story completed so the next story arc can just be new characters.
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>Ventus
>Marluxia
What the fuck is going on?
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I'm so lost. I didn't know this stupid PC game was actually important to the series
Can anyone give the cliffs for what I missed?
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>>388160060
Ven, Marluxia, Maleficent, probably Braig
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>>388159943
>>388160174
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPCJnwphQDQcJOkD9OsmxxMHX7YHE4WP2
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The mobile game takes place like 100 years in the past.
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>>388160041
Calling it now that she'll be back in KH3 watch >screencap
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So is your player still in the future in Union X? Cause in the ending to Chi it's revealed that you actually lived through the Keyblade War but literally everybody else is dead and you somehow end up in Enchanted Dominion in the present time because Malificent mentions Sora
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>>388160132
They're part of a group of Keyblade Wielders sent to another dimension to wait out the Keyblade War.
It's a weird plot twist that came out of nowhere but it's not actually hard to understand.
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>>388153703
How the fuck do you keep up with all this shit? It's obvious Nomura has just been making stuff up as he's gone along since KH2.

>>388154076
>strong female character done right
>biggest mary sue in a series of mary sues
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>>388160548
Nah she's dead bro. Eraqus would be dead to but Terra was there when his body faded away and his heart went to Terra's body. Nobody was around to retrieve Strelitzia heart so she's dead
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so how do the people from before the keyblade war know what the heartless are but Aqua doesn't?
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>>388160628
5 masters each train a group of key blade wielder
master of master said "one shall be evil"
the masters start fighting each other to find out whos evil
one group is told to hide out the keyblade war
keyblade war happens
group stays hidden
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>>388159785
So it's an even shittier CoM?
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>>388161067
Yes, are people actually playing this because it's an engaging time waster or are you all just waiting for the next plot twist?
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>>388161149
>>388161149
A little of both.
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>>388154495
>Ven and Marluxia are time travelers


Wait what?!?!
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So, this mobile game is actually canon? Fucking hell, i love KH but i want this series to be over already, so many games in so many platforms, i can't take this anymore.
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>>388161525
Its almost over anon. Nomura willing...
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>>388161241
Yes ven is a pedo for liking aqua
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I used to understand everything about KH until now, what the fuck is going on
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>>388161579
Lmao Xenohort sega almost over KH not
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>>388161579
>>388161525
Lol. KH is confirmed to go past 3. 3 is just the end of the Dark Seeker/Xehanort saga.
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I had no problem with the games being spread over different platforms, but a phone or webgame or whatever this is being this relevant is too much.
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>>388161693
Well whatever. I'm off this fucking ride when 3 comes out.
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>>388159785
>Load deck with characters and action
>battle begins
>use cards to do action and attacks (no movement)
>move to next battle

sounds lamer than FGO
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>>388161241
See >>388160337

Ven and Lauriam were alive during the Keyblade War era.
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>>388161681
>>388161693
>>388161720
Square should just make a console just to release every future KH games on it.
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someone explain to me why are the mobile shit important?
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>>388161525
Sadly yes it is canon. Nomura even had an HD movie of Unchained made for 2.5 its pretty good and on youtube
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>>388160041
>Riku Replica
>dead
He's all but confirmed to be a part of True Organization XIII at this point. He's a Riku that can actually be Xehanort'd, unlike the real Riku with his darkness resistance.
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fuck it, got nothing better to do.

gonna download it
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>>388162157
This one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfHNNEZO5yA
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>>388162412
That's the one
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>>388162027
It's canon. It shows what happened before and the aftermath of the Keyblade War and somehow, Ven and Marluxia were alive during the Keyblade War even though the event takes place hundreds of years before the events of KH Birth by Sleep. This is CRUCIAL story and character development but Nomura decides to put all this fucking important shit on a fucking phone game. Why? I have no idea other than him just being a massive fucking troll
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>>388162157
Do I only need to watch the movie or do I also need to play the games?
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>>388162157
>>388162412
Reminder that Back Cover barely covers the story and only shows you the Forteller's perspective.
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>>388162502
Why not both. Watch it fag, it was good
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Why the fuck does this game have an actual story after more than 200 tedious missions?
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>>388158826
Do you know English? Every comma placed in those lines is perfectly correct, it's just that they aren't necessary.
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>>388153703
>KH's entire backstory is in a shitty mobile game

I'm still angry
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>>388162502
the "movie" bundled with 2.8 explains literally nothing, so you're gonna have to either play the mobile game, watch the cutscenes or read an analysis.
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>>388162502
Both desu

There's alot more to the story than that, its just a few of the cutscenes made into HD meant to tantalize you to download the game.

You can also just watch all the cutscenes on youtube
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>>388162476
Ok, gonna give it a watch later, thanks.

>>388162545
So i should still play the game? Well, i can do both then, i guess.
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>>388162661
Yes
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>>388162661

Do both if you want the whole story. The movie is not a summary of the game. It's supplementary material that takes place during "season 1" of the game. "Season 2" of the game is ongoing.
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>>388162208
Is it the same replica from CoM or did they make another one?
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>>388162661
The HD movie doesn't necessarily explain everything going on at the time, but does a decent job.

If you want to see every cutscene >>388159904 has them all
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>>388162548
I watched it. I just want to know if the movie would me enough to understand all the shit that happens in the games
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>>388160926
>Nobody was around
>Nobody

Teehee
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>>388160604
Maleficent mentions Sora, saying that even he can't meddle with the world she's in.

The implication is that she discovered the Realm of Sleep.
Real time doesn't flow there, so someone could theoretically use the RoS as a time capsule to preserve themselves into the future.
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>>388162479
it may even be more crucial than we think
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Which union is the most populated?
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>>388161782
See you at the KH4 midnight release
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>>388157334
Terra shot out Braigs eye.
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>>388162596
A comma represents a pause. Speak that sentence out aloud and tell me if you paused four times.
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>>388160993
So Ven and Marluxia knew each other? Fuck was that the real reason why he was in Castle Oblivion?
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>>388162905
English/Worldwide - Vulpeus/Ava's
Japan - Last I checked it was Unicornis/Ira's though I believe Vulpeus is close.
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>>388162942
>t. Nomura
I will not be Jap'd into going with this ride anymore.
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>>388162208
If it is Riku-Replica (it could be Riku-Ansem), then he'll probably be time-displaced like Ansem and Xemnas.

So he'll still be dead.
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>>388162208
How can he be NORTED if Xehanort was never there?
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>>388162903
OH GODDAMMIT SO IF YOU DON'T WATCH BACK COVER OR PLAY UNION X THEN YOU WILL BE LOST AS FUCK FUCKING NOMURA FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>388163072
or was he?
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>>388162905
The one with the girl leader cause "muh waifu"
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>>388163024
fuck, I went with the snake
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>>388163212
That's fine. 1. You can switch Unions with some minimal consequences. 2. Sneks are fine.
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>>388163031
They're already using Riku-Ansem.
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>>388161525
So Ven has been a keystone for the plot the whole time basically?
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>>388163335
thanks
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>>388163210
There are 2 Unions with female leaders, Sneak and Fox.
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>>388162349
A warning to all: KHUX US is a fucking moneygrab and the story still hasn't catched up to the current season that the JP version is in, so if you unironically want to start playing play the JP version it's much less of a moneygrab.
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>>388163413
No one cares about snek.
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>>388153703
Marluxia was the best Org XIII member
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>>388163416
>A warning to all: KHUX US is a fucking moneygrab and the story still hasn't catched up to the current season that the JP version is in, so if you unironically want to start playing play the JP version it's much less of a moneygrab.

just like FGO
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>>388163416
Did Square ever speak on why the US version of KHUX is such a rip off? I know they have to hear hundreds if not thousands of complaints a day
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Will Larxene finally be relevant? Doubt it but I'm hoping.
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>>388163597
The answer is obvious. Profit.

They won't talk about it because it will only legitimize everyone's grievances and they'll have to answer for that.
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>Introduce new and interesting qt
>Only to kill her off
Why doesn't anybody ever tell Nomura "stop this is a bad idea"? Not even Disney tries to stop Nomura he gets to do whatever the fuck he wants
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>>388163416
>>388163597
How the fuck is the US version more of a moneygrab??????
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>>388163679
But if enough people bitch about it on Twitter or Facebook then they will have no choice but to respond.
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>People that pronounce Mar-lucks-e-uh Mar-loo-sh-a
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>>388163858
He thought Xion was a good idea, so clearly dude doesn't know shit.
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>>388164038
Marloosha or Marlooshya is the correct pronunciation. How do you pronounce Xiahou Dun? If the answer actually involves the the letter X not being pronounced as an "sh" then you're wrong.
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>>388163916
Microtransactions are more expensive
Nerfed medals
Reduced login bonuses
Absent daily jewel quest
Bereft of proper reward payouts for events
Consistently fucking up notices and other problems
Medals JP gets for free are stuck behind a paywall on global
The list goes on

>>388164038
Marloosha is the proper pronunciation.
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>>388164069
Xion was an ok idea, but not in a game about Organization
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>>388163858
It really is too fucking stupid, we barely had any time to get to know her and the only pain her death causes is that she could've been a much more developed character but no we probably won't ever get to see her again.
Way to introduce a character through a whole chapter only to have them get killed on the beginning of the next.
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>>388164038
I know this is probably bait but the latter pronunciation is how the characters say his name in the voiced cutscenes. I hope you don't pronounce Xion as Zion.
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>>388164280
Xion literally stole Namine's spot in Roxas' backstory.
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>>388164424
I guess Nomura could've used Namine instead of Xion, but she was "busy" in CoM, so he had to create another girl that would fill the role of "the girl that made Roxas leave Organization".
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>>388164706
CoM only takes like 25 days and Days' story as-is doesn't get going until 255
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What's going on?
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>>388164281
Nomura is just a fucking troll and likes to fuck with people and throw constant curve balls just for shits and giggles
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>>388164706
Namine was implied to be the person who made Roxas leave. And COM barely takes place a quarter of the way in during Days.
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>want to play a neat game where you explore disney worlds, hit stuff with your house keys, and shoot fireballs at monsters.
>have to read a fucking dissertation about the game just to know what's going on in the retarded plot about time travel, secret identities, split personalities, shadow governments, bodyswapping, and alchemy

Kingdom Hearts has fucking fallen apart.
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>>388165449
>/v/ loves MGS despite how fucking retarded and convoluted the story can be
>/v/ hates KH because of how fucking retarded and convoluted the story can be
Really gets the noggin joggin'
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>>388165110
Well, I guess Nomura also couldn't use Namine because of their first meeting in KH2 prologue. Unless you add some amnesia to Namine or something, it would've been an obvious plothole.

>>388165189
I dunno - the only thing Nomura had in mind was "a girl of the same age as Roxas":
>-- How did you come up with Xion, who became such a key person in the storyline?
>Nomura: We showed how Roxas left Organization XIII in KH2. At the same time as we were polishing off the KH2 project, we had assumed to a certain extent what Roxas' movements were during the time period when Days happens, and thought that "Roxas definitely left the Organization because of the influence of someone close to him." And, we thought that "someone" should be a girl his own age. Flowing from that, we began to construct the storyline, beginning with Xion's existence.
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>>388166034
It's their "first" meeting in KHII because Roxas lost his memories.

I mean, doesn't it strike you as odd how quickly Roxas and Naminé form the strong bond they have at the very end of the game?
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>>388153703
>Marluxia and Ven are time travelers
what the actual fuck Nomura
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Wait, so is Marluxia Lightning with a sex change or vice-versa?
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>>388166458
Chain of Memories released in 2004
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>>388166034
that scene heavily suggested that that wasn't their actual first meeting.
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>>388166256
It's mostly because of Sora and Kairi (and Sora and Namine). Roxas has zero connection with Kairi or Namine except being Sora's Nobody. Meanwhile, Sora made a promise with both Kairi and Namine, so Roxas made a bond with Namine only thanks to Sora's promise and by being a Nobody, just like Namine.
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>>388156983
She couldn't save Ventus or Terra, it's up to Sora to save them and everyone else that's missing or hurting. She couldn't get out of the Realm of Darkness for over a decade, something the other characters did pretty quickly. And while she was gone a couple of kids with no formal training took her job and saved the universe several times and did so with greater efficiency then her while she sits around waiting to be saved. Overpowered? gimmie a break. If anything she looks a bit incompetent and will owe Sora several favors after he finally saves the day.
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Calling it now she going to be the next time traveler
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>>388153703
downloading the game now, finished the tutorial section.

What am I in for?
Any advice?
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>>388153703
I haven't been following Chi updates in a long while now. Has best girl shown up?
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>>388165739
Majority of /v/ actually loves KH but we just poke fun at how retarded and how much of a train wreck the story is. To shit on it with great detail just shows that majority do actually care about the series and just want Nomura to calm down with all the bullshit he's throwing in our faces
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>>388167378
Quit now and play the JP version instead, you'll thank me later
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>Marluxia's somebody retconned into importance
When's Demyx, Larxene, and Luxord?
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>>388167429
Not yet.
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>>388153703
Who the fuck is sterlitzia.
Please don't tell me I have to play the fuckong phone game too?
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>>388153703
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?!?!?!?! I PLAYED EVERY FUCKING GAME 3 OR 4 TIMES AND NOW A FUCKING MOBILE GAME IS MORE IMPORTANT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO!!!
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>>388157824
>her last words were I just wanted to meet you (player)
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>>388167346
I'll call it now, she's a union leader
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>>388167543
Elaborate
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>>388167036
>She couldn't save Ventus or Terra
Not her fault. Maybe if she did something that caused them to end up fucked, but she didn't.

>She couldn't get out of the Realm of Darkness for over a decade
Because she was sacrificing herself for others, since she's too good for the sinful world.

>And while she was gone a couple of kids with no formal training took her job and saved the universe several times and did so with greater efficiency then her
Anon plz, you know full well that once she shows up Riku and Sora will transform into retards so she can look good. She'll save Riku when he comes to save her, not the other way around. She's Nomura's waifu and if the ending of 0.2 is any indication he will never allow her to look bad.
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>>388167868
US more of a cash grab and its not updated to latest story threads
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>>388167485
>wanting Nomura to calm down
Fuck that shit, Kingdom Hearts is at its best when it's fucking insane
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>>388163156
You'll be fine. It's more supplementary info more than necessary. Basically you find out what Mal and Pete are doing in KH3 and if you want to know more you then check out Union Cross.
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>>388168069
But what if I can't read moonrunes?
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>>388167868
Global is like half a year behind on the story, and intentionally starves players, both free and paid, of rewards which are now increasingly common in JP to incentivize more draws and by extension, more payments.

Even if your pockets are deep, global is a straight-up scam by comparison.
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>>388163481
snek a best
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>>388168261
All the story, events, and updates get translated by various sources.
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>>388168261
its either you progress using money
or
Progress using normal means like a normal game
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>>388167567
>demyx and luxord have no story importance so far despite being best members
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>>388164038
Wow it's almost as if that's how it was pronounced all through COM.
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>>388168261
Then watch a story summary, the phone game is a pretty boring and frustrating grind.

I suffered through KHUX US, I'm just warning you to not do the same.
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>>388168478
>Playing Re:CoM
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>>388168320
>>388168432
>>388168497

what a shame. Here I thought I can catch up on the story by playing a shitty gatcha on my commute instead of watching a playlist or read a translation forum.

Thanks for the heads up.
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I'm actually legit kinda mad. Of all series, I never expected Nomura to pull a shock value death in Kingdom Hearts. This isn't the right direction KH needs to be headed. Creating a character only to kill them shortly is so cheap. Did Nomura not feel that Marluxia being around during the Keyblade War was shocking enough? Because that's fucking huge on its own. There was literally no reason to kill Strelitzia other than to pull double shock value plot twists. Strelitzia's death was handled so poorly.

I love Nomura don't be get me wrong and KH is my all time favorite series but this was just retarded and only happened to generate buzz.
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>>388153703
>integral story details spread across every handheld device ever made

Why is this series so stupid?
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>>388167958
Original draft had her have a small breakdown at the end of 0.2, basically a I'm sick of this shit and being stuck here scene. But it got scrapped unfortunately.
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>>388168552
>not saving the damsel in distress
What are you, a nu-gamer?
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>>388168582
Short sighted as fuck to say any death is made for "Shock value." Maybe consider character motivations and other possibilities before resorting to some retarded criticism that means absolutely nothing simply because you can't fathom a character being killed.

>damn dude that man killed his wife and kids then himself just for the shock value wow...
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>>388168582
>ywn be this mad over some literally who in a mobile game
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>>388168582
The story is that someone in the Union Leaders isn't supposed to be there.

So naturally, someone has to be struck down and replaced.
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>>388168619
normura can't into sanity
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>>388168807
No, I played CoM, the superior version. Also Namine's a cunt.
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>>388168582
>Strelitzia
>Dead

This is KH. You saw her heart take off so she's either going to end up in some other character or as a stepping stone so Pinky can pretend to wield a keyblade (Because you know he's faking).
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Every time I think I have the plot figured out they somehow manage to complicate it even further.
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>>388168582
How else are they gonna make it seem real that their is a traitor amongst the Union Leaders midst
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>>388169224
>You saw her heart take off
Which means she's gone.

She's with Kingdom Hearts now.
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>>388169252
As long as you have the basics down, shit like this is nothing, there being a traitor and Marluxia's somebody being one of the leaders are simply new pieces of one big puzzle, that's already been built up, though for now there's barely any pieces they can connect to since we lack information as to what they will do at the moment
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>only played 1, CoM and 2
>lurk KH threads
>read this new shit now and about some character in a phone game

This should be sad but it is hilarious how far things are going in KH storyline. And things will be worse between the time 3 is released and the eventual Remix version happens with more phone or pc games in the middle

Is there even a karaoke game? I dare you to do it Nomura, exclusive to japan, plot content while singing. A pachinko machine would be fine too
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>>388168582
>Creating a character only to kill them shortly is so cheap

I know. Jared from FFXV comes to mind.

before you ask "who the fuck was Jared" that was my question and it was answered 50 hours later. It was some old fat the player saw in like 2 scenes for like 3 minutes total and they make a big dead of him dying off screen
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>>388169502
Don't give the mad man any ideas.
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>>388167485
Actually the story is the best part for me. All those

>me want hit things with keystick
>me want shoot magic
>me no care but cutscenes

Fuck those people. Seriously, if you can't get into the story, which is the most important aspect of this series, then you're playing the wrong game. Maybe even the wrong genre.
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>>388160337
Why did they make him look like a sexy girl here?
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>>388153703
>Implying this won't help to explain how xehanort got Ven's empty body
>Implying this won't explain why marluxia wanted to rebel against xehanort.
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>>388169041
So did I. And no u.
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>Marluxia was a keyblade wielder
>his Nobody, and probably his heartless too are gone, bringing him back keyblade and all
MARLUXIA IS ONE OF THE SEVEN LIGHTS CONFIRMED

On a side note, does anyone have the chess board analysis with them off hand, would be appreciated
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>>388160907
>biggest mary sue in a series of mary sues

>failed her friends
>failed her master
>stuck in some place
>no one knews about her
>depressed

l'm not saying she's not a mary sue but she's a mary sue done right
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>>388169224
You know when the body fades and the heart floats to the sky that means they're 100% dead right? Like dead as in there is no coming back. Chi confirmed what death is in the KH universe. When the Keyblade wielders were fighting in the Keyblade War you saw their hearts floating to the sky and their body vanishes, only leaving behind their Keyblade (hence the name Keyblade GRAVEYARD).

Only way they have a chance of being revived is if their heart finds refuge in another person as their body fades way (Eraqus, which is why Xehanort told Terra that Eraqus has set foot in Terra's heart)
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>>388170178
>she's a mary sue done right
So a protagonist then.
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>>388156481
Different VAs
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>Marluxia's nobody servants are enemies in KH3
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
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>>388170147
This shit?
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>>388170348
I could've sworn there was one more with more WORDS, but that's also pretty good to have too, thanks
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>>388170178
A mary sue done right isn't a mary sue.

Also none of those failures were her fault.
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>>388170526
Being stuck alone in the realm of darkness, while the friend she saved goes on to be literally Hitler is definitely her fault
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>>388168582
I gotta agree. I 100% thought she was gonna die (you don't have a name that means "bright future" and survive), but just "here she is, and now she's gone" really just screamed cheap drama to me.

I mean our canon teammates are all gonna die anyway so why not use them for shocking death.
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>Strelitzia dies
wow, what a dramatic twist to kill off a character we've known for like a week. brilliant writing as always, Nomura
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>>388167958
>Not her fault. Maybe if she did something that caused them to end up fucked, but she didn't.
You called her overpowered. Even with friends helping her she failed to stop Xehanort's schemes and she wasn't strong enough to properly deal with Terranort. Even though she's supposedly overpowered she couldn't save herself and one other person and by saving the super villain she doomed Radiant Garden and set the rest of the series' chaos in motion. But aside from not being strong enough she botched almost every conversation she had with Terra and Ventus, making them more and more upset and alienated.
>Because she was sacrificing herself for others, since she's too good for the sinful world.
Sora sacrificed himself to save Kairi by stabbing a keyblade into his chest, Aqua isn't special for being heroic in a game about superheroes. The other characters save each other all the time but they don't become stranded for over a decade after doing so. If she was an overpowered mary sue she wouldn't need to be saved.
>She'll save Riku when he comes to save her, not the other way around. She's Nomura's waifu and if the ending of 0.2 is any indication he will never allow her to look bad.
Nah. Recoded and Dream Drop Distance both set up as Sora as the chosen one who will save all of the missing and hurting people, this includes Aqua. Riku might be searching for her but Sora is the linchpin of the entire operation and who everyone relies on. Everything and everyone revolves around Sora, Aqua is an afterthought that Yensid decides to put some time into after a decade.

I like Aqua but she's incompetent and hasn't done much. Xehanort ran circles around her and now she waits to be saved. How anyone can call her a mary sue I'll never understand.
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>>388170526
>Also none of those failures were her fault.
Terra was her fault.
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>>388170526
Except literally all of those failures are her fault.
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>>388170289
>Marluxia's nobody servants are enemies in KH3
>WHAT DOES IT MEAN
It means best boy is coming back.
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>>388170716
>>388170852
>spends the entire game telling Terra and Ven that they are retarded
>their fuckups are somehow her fault
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>>388168582
>I never expected Nomura to pull a shock value death in Kingdom Hearts
Sora basically killed himself in kh1
>Creating a character only to kill them shortly is so cheap
Just like repliku
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>>388153703
Who cares about Kingdom Hearts it's just a bunch of osakashit
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388171254
impersonating barry is dumb
No (You) for you
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>>388170242
I'd like to clarify that type of death is only when you die against a Keyblade wielder. So you can die via other methods, Like getting shot (Barbosa in Port Royal) without the dramatic heart leaving your body moment.

Though Strelitzia dying like that does confirm that she was killed by a wielder so that removes the possibility that a non-wielder killed her (i.e. it wasn't an evil Chirithy or a heartless)


Granted she could still come back to life maybe. I mean resurrection isn't unheard of. Nomura did confirm that Maleficent was literally dead, but she had a super secret magic that brings her back to life if you say her name.
I doubt Strelitzia has any such magic but someone bringing her back to life is possible.
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so i have friend who's into kh but he's a normie? we both like kh
he keep asking for recommendation but tasty inst for normies what should give him
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>>388171343
Just ignore that moron.
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>>388171343
cry more
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>>388171028
Disney villains would tell her that Terra was committing crimes and she'd believe them. This could happen after said villain just tried to kill her and she'd still believe them then poke and prod Terra about it whenever they met. But the only time Terra actually did something truly bad is letting criminals escape jail in Lilo and Stitch world, but that was late in the game and he was a mental wreck at that point.

Aqua was too rigid with her No Darkness Ever policy, which just drove Terra further away from her and into Xehanort's manipulative arms. After Riku was saved from Maleificent/Ansem Sora was completely on board with him using darkness and trusted him fully. If Aqua had even a smidgen of that sort of trust in friends things wouldn't have fallen apart as they did.
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>>388171254
>giant enemy should instantly be in hitstun!
Fuck off with that shit. We have no idea if 3 will be as shitty as BBS or 3D
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>>388171668
We do, Osaka team is making it. It's instantly shit
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>>388171343
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>>388171668
Actually the thing with the webm is it doesn't even show if it's actually inconsistent.
The moves that all didn't cause hitstun were the first parts of a combo it could just be that's how those moves work now.

Potentially it's like complaining that your basic jab in a fighting game doesn't have the knock down property of the rest of the string.
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>>388171876
>defending osaka team
wew lad
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Stop calling it time travel
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>>388171254
What about large bodies in 2?
They don't register hit stun unless they're hit with a finisher or are knocked into the air and get hit in an air combo
This is the same shit
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Why does the game we've all been waiting for, the game that has to live up to 2FM, have to be made by fucking Osaka team

It's not fair bros, I just want a good KH game
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>>388172132
2 is literally the perfect game kill yourself
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>>388171876
The Iron Giant Heartless probably just has a high stagger threshold, like the centaur Heartless from Mulan's world.
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>>388171254
>giant enemy has some super armor
>first hit took super armor out and second hit stunned
>same for the third
>enemy already on the ground, no need for hit stun
>first hit super armor or super armor on back dash

Don`t see the problem.
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Is Nomura even writing Chi? I assume he just gave some interns a basic story outline and a list of characters that need to show up and somehow get to the future at the end.
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>>388172184
Yes.
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>>388171028
>job was to bring Ven back
>doesn't do that
>job was to simply keep an eye on Terra so that he doesn't stray off the beaten path
>constantly tells him he's a fuck up, while hypocritically defending him when others say he's a fuck up.
>Put Terranort down when shit is getting real
>"I still believe in Terra, even though nurmeous times I berate him and call him a fuck up!" "Theres gotta be a small piece of him left!"
>Basically causes all of the events to stir into motion because at the last possible second, she decides to be a bleeding heart

Master Keyblader my ass. Aqua's a shit master since she couldn't even complete one task that was assigned to her.
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>>388172047
>guys who appear in the current time also appear earlier in the timeline when age is a thing

what do i call this?
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>>388172184
Nomura wrote every story except Days
He wrote the dialogue in Days
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>>388163858

I doubt disney has any fucking idea that Nomura is doing with anything. Much less us.
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>>388172184
Nomura is involved in every story but isn't the writer technically
Masaru Oka is the one that actually writes the scenario
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>>388169502

He already did that in a concert.
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>>388172265
That's funny. I think days has the best story, after 1. Everything is so unnecessarily complex after 1, but Days was somewhat emotionally evocative
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>>388168691
And in the beta trailer we see Terra giving an edgelord smile to Maleficent while they're apparently teamed up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1us0KFcrCYM

But in the actual game he's more of just a gullible fool instead of being truly bad. I think Nomura is too scared to give characters any real edge or breakdowns because he doesn't want them to be unlikable. But this just causes them to be overly vanilla.
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>>388172226
Was Aqua supposed to be tsundere? It's weird that she is always defending him against others but then tells him he's shit every time she sees him.
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>Finally reach 0.2 after weeks of trudging through the spin-offs.

So this is the power of main line?

>Spells looking good and the 'ga spells are useful.
>No command wheel to make up for handheld buttons.
>Using normal attacks is actually useful and not an afterthought.

Sure the lighting is weird here and there and make the characters look 90's cgi plastic but what do you do?

Did they fix Aqua's chin in the opening? It looks better than that weird ass pointy chin I've seen on youtube.
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>>388172167
>enemy in KH3 doesn't stagger until finisher hits
>shit game fuck osaka
>enemy in KH2 doesn't stagger until finisher hits
>literally the perfect game
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>>388172226
Terra really was a fuck up though
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>>388172226
What do you expect when all she had to do to become a master was hit a bunch of moving balls. They weren't even supposed to be moving, Xehanort did that.
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>>388172457
Days is the definition of unnecessarily complex
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>>388172532
Yeah they did, I'm not sure how patches work I guess they just replaced the entire fucking opening.
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>>388171959
The thing is if the hitstun doesn't work on all first hits that could just be a design choice. So calling it inconsistent is possibly not true. You could say first hit having no hitstun is bad (which could very well be the case) but until we see mid-combo moves fail to hitstun we cannot conclude that it's inconsistent.

Also Osaka went too far in some places especially with BBS secret bosses but overall the game was fine.
I mean they kinda failed to do what they were going for but I get that the lack of revenge value was meant to force players to respect bosses, but at the same time they didn't design the bosses as having to respect the players
Cause Revenge Value doesn't actually encourage respect.
I'll use an analogy to fighting games
Throwing continuous high damage High attacks at opponents, and then doing a fast mid when they crouch is skillful and requires fairly quick inputs, but it's not respectful at all it's especially not respectful if you can loop the player as easy as you can Revenge. Cause eventually the dude might actually learn to sidestep, or to perform a high dodge low attack but the AI never will.
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>>388153703
So why are there Ventus in that games?that was supposed to be century before BBS right?
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>>388172232
They're in another dimension.

It's like saying Aqua is time traveling since she appears to have aged a year tops, in the 10 year gap.
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>>388172632
>but overall the game was fine
stopped reading there
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>>388172532
They fixed her chin and also Ventus-Vanitas's face. Originally he had the chinstrap from the helmet and blue eyes instead of gold.
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>>388172265
>wrote every story
Involved in every story, giving outlines and ideas while other writers such as nojima, oka, and watanabe actually write it
>except days
he was involved in the story of days, it's in the credits and interviews of him working with the scenario team confirm it as well
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>>388172617
I know. All of the KH sequels are. But at least Days had a nice emotional core to it. Did you even read my reply?
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>>388172512
I don't even know if it's that he's really that gullible, but rather that he is often in the wrong place at the wrong time. How come the first character he meets in most worlds is the villain? That's an odd coincidence.

I always wonder what would have happened if, say, Aqua came back to find Eraqus about to kill Ven instead of Terra. Would she have somehow resolved it all peacefully or would it have played out the same? Stuff like that never really happens to her until the end, so I think that's part of why she comes out looking 'better' than the others.

Though one thing people forget is that she helps capture Stitch, and that Ven is the one who frees him again.
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>>388172532
0.2 was a joy to play. I just wish it was longer. I kept thinking about Birth by Sleep Volume 2 all these years and wanted a huge adventure, but it's over in about one sitting. Still good, though.
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>>388172741
In Japan there's a split in how "story" in a game works

Nomura writes the story, which is to say, the plot. Characters and events, basically the outline.

Nojima, Watanabe, Oka, they're scenario writers, or the people that script out the dialogue and details of Nomura's story.

So Nomura typically writes the story.
But with Days, he was primarily a scenario writer, with oversight from Kanemaki and someone else, maybe Watanabe.
Kanemaki was the lead story writer and Nomura gave her that job based on her work with the KH novels.
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>"I'm me" he says, must be nice being real, a fake like me could never get away with saying that.
That's right! I'm a phony! A fake! The way I look, the way I feel, everything I remember! Even..this newfound power! I thought that by obtaining some new strength I could finally BE someone! Someone whose not at all you! But nothing changes, I'm still just EMPTY! Everything about me is borrowed! So long as you're around, I'LL NEVER BE MORE THAN A SHADOW!!

Jesus christ, what the hell happened to this dude after parting with Sora, he seemed to have calmed down, then this scene happens. Did they just want to kill the guy off?
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>>388172751
I don't consider overblown melodrama to be necessarily emotional
For the characters, I guess
But for me, it's a bit annoying when the entire game seems to be holding up a sign reading "XION'S GONNA DIE AND IT WILL BE SAD OK"
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>>388173117
He couldn't escape Riku's shadow. Plus it might have affected Repliku that he knows Sora would choose the real over the fake.
Meaning to Sora his best friend is Riku, and Repliku is just some dude.
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>>388173185
I didn't get the Xion death vibe until the end, Days did a good job of distracting me from the obvious plot point.
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>>388172997

Thats not only japan, they do it in western too. Tv, Books, games. Thats basic story and writing development.
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>>388173256
>14th member of Organization XIII
>brand-new character who is friends with Roxas and Axel
>the back of the box tagline and description
Nigga she was marked for death before I even popped the cart into my DS
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Is Marluxia popular in Japan? It has been decade since his story relevance
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>>388173117
He made his peace with Sora because Sora was still willing to forgive him after all the shit he pulled and still willing to be his friend even though he was just a fake version of Riku. That didn't necessarily stop his angst over the real Riku.
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>>388172997
>Nomura writes the story, which is to say, the plot. Characters and events, basically the outline.
Which is what I said
>Nojima, Watanabe, Oka, they're scenario writers, or the people that script out the dialogue and details of Nomura's story.
Which is what I said
>Kanemaki was the lead story writer and Nomura gave her that job based on her work with the KH novels.
He still did the same things he did in the previous games and he brought in someone new. Interviews and the game's credits show this. Not sure why this post was needed
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>>388173314
I think the terminology is different though, which can cause confusion
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>>388173185
No shit, that's every prequel ever. You not being able to immerse yourself in the story and get emotionally invested because you know a character is going to die is your own fault
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>>388172573
More gullible than a fuck up. The thing with Princess Aurora wasn't even his fault. He got manipulated, then possessed. And then with Captain Hook, he had no reason to believe they were bad guys since all he saw was people that needed saving (from the unversed). And then with Master Xenanort, he didn't have a reason to mistrust him either because even though it was pure manipulation, Xenanort was the only one who had faith in him. Xenanort even flat out told Terra that darkness is not inherently evil, which is completely true.
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>>388173406
As popular as any other unimportant Org member, Nomura does what Nomura wants
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>>388173242
To sora there is no real or fake, he should know this by interacting with that moron. dude doesn't give a fuck. That's what's so disgustingly charming about him to other characters and what makes him a magnet for powerful hearts with no where to go. I hate characters like that because those people do not fucking exist in real life and it's giving the audience false hopes and desires that can never be realistically applied to real life. It's stupid, Sora's stupid, Repuliku is stupid, this whole thing is stupid.
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Literally no one ever dies in this franchise. Maleficent is somehow still alive even though she "died" a couple of times.
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>>388166458
Nomura too cucked to make the top Org traitors female, but too lazy to change the design. Druckmann here baka.
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>>388172725
So you sit or wait in this other dimension which time moves slower or not at all to emerge in the normal time line at a later date

I believe we call this time travel
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>>388173603
He clearly failed to do that in VS XII
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>>388173618
>those people do not fucking exist in real life
Good thing this is a video game you dumb fuck
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>>388173598
Darkness IS bad by default though, even Riku everyone's favorite poster boy for using Darkness and Light says his path is to consume the darkness, and turn it back to light
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>Pete got sent to the home for infinite losers because he was being annoying and a bit of a trouble-maker.
What the fuck.
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>>388173598
>And then with Master Xenanort, he didn't have a reason to mistrust him either because even though it was pure manipulation, Xenanort was the only one who had faith in him.
That and he was introduced to him by fucking Eraqus. I think that's more a fuck up and Eraqus' part than on Terra's.
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I still have to play DDD and 0.2
Don't really remember much of BBS.
I feel like just replaying the whole seriees but I don't want to burn out. What do /v/?
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Marluxia actually exist before the keyblade wars. Doesn't that make him more important villain than Xehanort who doesn't exist back then(Does he?)?
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>>388173828
believe in yourself and follow your dreams :^)
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>>388173828
There is no point in understanding BBS story after this mobile game exist
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>>388173842
his keyblade which can see
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>>388173498
Well the same thing happened with BbS, but I managed to get invested in those characters and feel something when they all reached their respective bad ends.

And with χ[chi], a game that ends in a literal world-ending cataclysmic war, I still cared about Ephemera and Skuld and Player and got kinda misty at the end there.

What I'm saying is that Days goes WAY too hard. The ENTIRE game is this melancholy, overdramatic slog. The pacing and tone are all wrong. How am I supposed to be invested in characters who only have an increasingly worse existence?

You don't get scenes of Roxas, Axel and Xion hanging out or having fun. There's always some amount of tension or distrust, or one of them is missing, or mad at someone else, and even when they ARE all together, they just sit in the same place and eat ice cream.
That's no way to write a friendship, and their forced dialogue about their own friendship is evidence of that.

You get emotionally invested when there are ups and downs. Crying doesn't mean anything if you never got to smile.
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Keyblades are sentient and they've been manipulating everyone from the start.
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>>388174071
Didn't Bleach do that?
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>>388173740
>has been a dick since forever
>everyone just kinda let it slide since Disneyland is a pretty nice place, and they think he's not all bad deep inside
>some people even vote him as being an important part of the community too
>"NAH WHO CARES ABOUT THOSE FUCKS I WANTED A TROPHY AND ICECREAM"
And it was meant to just be a temporary punishment till he straightened out
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>>388174071
KEYCHAIN PARASITES
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>>388173618
To Sora there was a difference. Like sure he still considers Namine a friend, and even Repliku a friend, but all the same when Sora got to choose "Remember Kairi" vs "Stay with Namine" he chose Kairi.

And all he knew at that point was Kairi is the girl who's place Namine took in my memories.
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>>388173828
just play ddd
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>>388174123
The inhabitants are the real villains. Forcing me to play their goddamn minigames to progress.
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>>388173828
Don't play Osakashit you idiot
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>>388174112
That was a filler arc in the anime as I recall
I don't know the details other than the swords having personalities inside them

Because I skip filler arcs
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>>388174071
Keyblades do "choose" there owner so this idea wouldn't be far off
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>>388173704
Time travel as common parlance usually implies that the a more direct manipulation of time. I mean sure yeah it's time travel, but in the same way that no would really consider an Astronaut who ends up 1 minute younger than he should be a time traveller.
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What if this is all a red herring and Marluxia is not the killer? Is that possible?
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>>388174049
>I still cared about Ephemera and Skuld and Player and got kinda misty at the end there
seriously anon? I'm just gunna ignore the rest of what you said, cause that's pretty egregious to me
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>>388173828
Play something from the Kingdom Hearts series. But then play a game from a different series afterwards. Keep trading off between this and you'll eventually get through the KH franchise without burning yourself out if you played them all one after another.
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>>388174112
Some tend be around alive and kicking while others are made by there masters so who knows
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>>388173842
Nah Xehanort has the most important plot detail of all Luxu's Keyblade.

>>388174071
Keyblades actually are alive, but they are extensions of the wielder.
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>>388173735
That's where I gotta stop you. Darkness is easily manipulative, not evil. It's just that its easy to do bad things with it than good things because of the urges it can give you. If Darkness was bad by default, then King Mickey would have started off as a bad guy, and he was a good guy for as long as he had a role in the series. The "D" in Kingdom Key-D even stands for "Dark Side"
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>>388174335
Lauriam dindu nuffin he a gud boy
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>>388174335
It's almost certainly the case
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What's the deal with the fedora lord in Union X?
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>>388174494
He's a fucking cunt in Re:COM
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Is this mobile games characters part of Xehanort saga, meaning everything will get resolved in KH3 or they are set up to be characters of the new saga?
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>>388174335
They were a duo even way back when! Savage Nymph is the murderer!
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>>388174363
I mean, I did play the browser version from launch to service end, so having those characters around over the course of three years may have had something to do with it.

I mean all told Ephemera probably had like, 20 minutes of screentime, maybe? So obviously the impact can't be that great for a character I've seen so little of.

I'm just saying I got a bigger response from that scene than I did with anything in Days.
I do think it has everything to do with having a good time with the characters.

And Days doesn't let you have a good time. It's a bad time the whole time.
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How can something that stops you from ageing and not requiring rest or food be bad?
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>>388174335
Clearly it's Ven before MX extracted all his negative emotes. Marluxia was just vaping seasalt ice cream, while Ven was rolling heads. Though, I may be mis-remembering Vanitas' origins.
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>>388174459
Kingdom Key D was just a keyblade Mickey looked for to seal the door to darkness though, Star Seeker was always his true keyblade

And Darkness corrodes the hearts of its users, until eventually they go and sell their souls (hearts) to darkness, just because you can use it for good with enough strength and wisdom, doesn't mean it's not an evil power that 9 out of 10 ruins everyone's days
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>>388174314
So should we named them time travelers like xenohort or they just did an act of time travel??
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>>388174589
Both

Maleficent's story in KHIII is tied up in χ[chi] stuff, and Nomura's basically admitted that he's sowing the seeds for the next story after KHIII.
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>>388174656
Well, i thought the dialogue in Days, aside from the exposition-y stuff, was pretty good. It was cool seeing Roxas develop from his personality-less state, and they did have some decent times on the clocktower (planning to go to the beach and shit), but they were kind of indoctrinated into believing everything they experienced was shit because they don't have hearts.

I'm not gunna argue with you about your enjoyment of the story. It's perfectly fine that you didn't get invested and wanted more happy times. But I was already invested in Axel and Roxas, and Xion was compelling and tragic on a conceptual level. Plus, I'm not sure what you were expecting in terms of happy times from a game about people with no hearts and how Roxas got pissed of and left the Org.
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>>388174735
Probably just say they were in another dimension. Otherwise people will probably confuse it as them having actual time travel powers.
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>>388153703
does sea salt ice cream even taste that good? I don't get why normura is so obsessed with it
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>>388175003
salted caramel is a top tier flavor, so I'm sure sea salt ice cream is pretty dope
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>>388175003
I've only had caramel sea salt, rather than just plain sea salt, but it was pretty good the sweetness and saltiness go well together
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Can someone give a quick summary of what is happening in Union X right now? Is all of this shit in a dream? Who is the edgy leader?
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With this happened, Marluxia definitely going to make an appearance as one of the organization member in KH3 right? I take that mean the rest of organizations (9-12) are going to appear too?
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>>388175001
Fuck this time B.S what next multiverses ??
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>>388174123
>get thrown into an inescapable dimension simply for not saying thank you
Queen Minnie is a tyrant. Disney Town is a facade.
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>>388174997
>I'm not sure what you were expecting
I didn't really have any expectations.

But surely we can both agree gluing the trio to the clock tower was a mistake.
I mean, if nothing else, it's fucking boring.

And like, they have nearly an entire year for this story. As it is, things don't really start moving until about day 255, so why do we spend the whole time up to that with this melancholy vibe, why can't they enjoy themselves a little? Go on an adventure?

We can't even get Disney shenanigans because Xemnas forbade them from being seen (which I guess he stops caring about in KHII?).
It's just so lifeless.

KHII Roxas only got seven days, and he still managed to have some fun.
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>>388175304
The main character is in a dream world, MoM and Ava ordained that all the Dandelions, and in this case Player who isn't one but got saved from the war were to be put to sleep and made to live in a world were the keyblade war will never happen, along with that Ava chose five of the Dandelions to be the leaders, with one in particular being gifted the Book of Prophecies, two of the characters from chi, and Ven too were revealed to be some of the leaders, but it turns out that one of the real leaders, Strelitzia was murdered and someone took her place, and the book that proves she's one of the leaders with the rules written down, and the new mystery is finding out whodunit
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>>388175502
>KHII Roxas only got seven days, and he still managed to have some fun.

You mean he gave the dick?
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>>388154495
Just drop it. KH3 won't be good anyway
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>>388174123
Notice how there's no cats besides Pete and his Son in goof troop?

It's a Dogspiracy.
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>>388175382
>Royalberry ice cream
>A hint of sour hiding under all that sweet
Minnie confirmed a bitch
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>>388175612
>and the new mystery is finding out whodunit


Gee I wonder it couldn't be her replacement with the easily anagramable name now could it?
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>>388175612
Sheesh, I wasn't expecting so much plot from a phone game.
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>>388175793
>falling for the most obvious red herring in the franchise's history
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>>388153703
will watching or reading the cutscenes allow me to avoid playing a gacha game
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>>388175825
Is he a good actor in the show?
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Can someone explain to me how or why this makes sense? What the fuck is Ven doing there? What the fuck is Marluxia wearing? What the fuck is Nomura smoking?
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>>388175502
It was bound to be melancholic. Seriously, get over it. That's not even a real criticism, just something you didn't enjoy, so stop reiterating it. They can't have fun goofy adventures cause at that point they had no hearts/were convinced they didn't have any. It's fine if you don't like it. I don't really care anymore. At least the characters weren't mentally handicapped or shittily VA'd like in BBS. And X was fucking dull, poorly paced, and revolved around questions we still haven't gotten real answers to.
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>>388175894
The story is introduced in entirely in shorty cinematics. At least up to where I played. KHInsider seems to have a full playlist.
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>>388175894
yes, though do read up on the mechanics (namely something called guilt) as that plays a role.
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>>388175825
Even with a bushy beard, guy is cursed with puppy dog eyes, and baby face
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>>388155092
What? Why?
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Guys, Marluxia is definitely the killer. Remember what his title in Org XIII? I don't know why this is even an argument
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>>388176078
I think it's a perfectly valid criticism.

A static tone is a flaw.
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>>388175612
So, what interesting shit could actually come of this. obviously Ven and Marluxia have ties to it, but what are people thinking the end game for this dreamworld bullshit will be. Also, is this a replica world like data Twilight Town? Or are they in the sleeping worlds?
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>>388176417
No whey. He was farmer who made some bad decisions.
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>>388176417
Killer of who?
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>>388176423
The game doesn't have a purely static tone, and it's really not a flaw. Have you ever watched a comedy? You're not getting much variety there
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>>388176417
Also that girl he killed was named after a flower
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>>388175832
And that's only the recent stuff, even the initially mute Main Character has a delicious twist too

The Foretellers started getting paranoid when they saw an evil Chirithy like what MoM talked about roaming around giving the Guilt Bracelets to all the keyblade wielders since that kind of Chirithy are only formed from someone falling into darkness, its existence is what made them suspect one another as seen in Back Cover

That Chirithy was the Player's all along
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>>388176531
Realm of Sleep, Chirithys are Dream Eaters, and turn to Nightmares when their wielder gets a little too into darkness
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>>388175376
I mean in theory that's already a thing. I mean each world is a universe isn't it
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>>388176669
>The game doesn't have a purely static tone
Oh yeah, I forgot about "Roxas, that's a stick"

Whew, that was close! For a second, the entire game was melodramatic garbage!

>Have you ever watched a comedy?
Have you?
Name one comedy that doesn't have an element of drama to ground the story.

Even goofy shit like Bill & Ted or Wayne's World aren't back-to-back jokes for 90 minutes.
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>>388176810
Why was our Chirithy a fuck up?
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I really love the game series and it makes me sad that no one else seems on /v/ seems to be able to enjoy each game in it to even the tiniest degree. I think the Osaka meme is ruining the community as a whole and there doesn't seem to be any stopping it.
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The hairclip on Strelitzia's hair is the roman numeral for the number 11. Marluxia is the number 11 in Organization 13. NOMURA PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE
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>>388177229
It'll stop when KHIII comes out and everyone loves it
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>>388177261
>using antiform against Marluxia

The mad man
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>>388177027
We couldn't resist that power.
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>>388177027
Not much you can do in the face of this
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If you are not doing low level run. Marluxia is actually the easiest data battle in KH2. Now I can go back and kill him easily again.
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>>388176983
>Name one comedy that doesn't have an element of drama to ground the story.
wow, minimal elements of drama that are ineffectual and contrived happen in comedies. I wonder if brief, light hearted moments can be found in days
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>>388177554
What's your opinion on mens rights
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>>388175941
Yeah he's pretty good. Honestly I don't think he could be leading man even if he had a good face, but with a good face he'd certainly have more roles.

He's unfortunately just not ugly enough to be the funny fat guy ether.
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Wait until Luxord makes an appearance as the Grandmaster of villain. The man behind the man. He was Nomura's favorite anyway.
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>>388177523
>minimal elements of drama
Usually it's the backbone of the film that keeps events moving forward, but OK.

Have you watched/played Days recently?

What very few lighthearted moments there are, are totally forced. Do you remember TAV laughing in the beginning of BbS? It's that vibe. It feels forced and unnatural. There are moments where RAX laugh, and you have to wonder why.

The way they talk about their friendship, it feels like they have to continually convince themselves they're actually friends. When you look at their relationship over the course of the game, it's hard to really figure out why they're friends, other than because Axel said so.

Now, that aspect could have been played up, the idea of feigning a reality in hopes of achieving it, but by the end of the game we're expected to believe it was all genuine. So now it just feels half-baked.

Days tells you to care for these characters more than it shows you why you should.
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>>388176810
>>388177027
Presumably whoever made the Bangles told our Chirithy to give them around.
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>>388177749
Do you see possibility of Nomura gettting kicked out before KH3 release?
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>>388178003
Actually his favorite changed to Xigbar post-DDD.
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>>388177749
It's simply the truth that the crazier Kingdom Hearts' plot is, whether it's one guy being all these other guys but split up in different ways that all make sense based on how the metaphysics of the world work, or all those same guys having to get thirteen versions of themselves to clash with seven defenders of light to make the key to omnipotence, the better it is
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>>388178090
Nomura's is one of SE's star players. If anything he might get burned out or poached, but that's also doubtful given nip work culture/slavery.
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>>388178164
NA-NANI?
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>>388178084
It was almost certainly MoM, regular Chirithy says they were meant to collect the sins that were guilt, and purify them into light, which as Nightmare Chirity says was a load of bullshit, those guilt and sins just coagulate into good old fashioned darkness, and that he must've known from the start
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>>388178090
Never, Nomura is their man more than all, just see how they threw him at FF7 without him knowing, they know if he touches it, money will more than likely happen
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>>388178197
>>388178478
I thought Toriyama was their golden boy?
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>>388178580
What has Toriyama done since the XIII games?
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>>388178580
KEK
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Because every faggot in this thread basically gives Nomura a license to print gold.
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>>388178580
Yeah he was kings. Operative word being wuz. I wonder if SE going to downsize their operation or what. KH3 or any other AAA title actually coming out next year is doubtful.
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>>388162903
So what's the black box?
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>>388178076
>Usually it's the backbone of the film that keeps events moving forward, but OK.
no shit, but that doesn't mean you actually feel any of the fucking tension or drama. It's there for the sake of a plot, not because most comedies actually have any dramatic weight.

And their friendship being awkward and unnatural has narrative justification. They don't understand emotions, and they have nothing else in their lives that gives them a sense of importance or being. It's essentially depressed people becoming codependent to cope, and them trying to avoid their existential crises by forging shaky friendships is compelling. It's not perfectly capable people who we already see as friends, without set up or justification, being awkward solely because the writers couldn't come up with a natural joke, or the VA's couldn't sell the dialogue. At least we get some relationship development with ARX. TAV's friendship is basically only told to us, and then they start fighting
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>>388153703
Does this mean we can finally have a scene where Shuichi Ikeda and Norio Wakamoto talk to one another?
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>>388178642
He being part of FF council or something like that? Nomura is not even part of that. Not to mention he got easier job now developing mobile games while Nomura goes through hell
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>>388178580
Toriyama is Kitase's golden boy I think
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>>388178778
Speak English you fucking weeaboo
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>>388178987
>It's there for the sake of a plot, not because most comedies actually have any dramatic weight.
The point is that it balances out the tone of the story.

A comedy that's only comedy quickly tires itself out and won't carry the viewer's interest or laughter all the way to the end.
Same thing with any tone.

All things in moderation, you know?

>They don't understand emotions, and they have nothing else in their lives that gives them a sense of importance or being.
Like I said, they could have played this angle, but it's clear that's not what they had in mind.
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>>388163596
No, KHUX NA jewed the daily login to be half as much as the JP log in and STILL hasn't fixed it. Also, the JP game has daily jewel mission for more jewels a day while the NA only has them for weekly events.

I dropped the game a few months ago after playing NA since day one after they introduced a new level of guilt (atk multiplier, but similar to how you can level up a servant's NP in FGO, as a blatant form of moneygrubbing powercreep and even the events were just pure whale missions. Then all the whales get the rewards that they don't even need since they just throw hundreds of dollars at the game already. Long story short, it is PVP hell and I hope it burns.

I'm waiting on Janne Alter
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>>388178804
The box Luxu was dragging around.
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>>388179384
I'm done. You keep hammering home the same shit and then bury your head in the sand about the rest of what I say. But you're totally right. I'll never forget how emotionally invested I was in Airplane! The drama, the emotion. Such a significant part of the film. Shame days didn't have any other tone but sadness. Don't know why people created this http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Funny/KingdomHearts358DaysOver2/KingdomHearts358DaysOver2
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>>388177229

I agree with the osaka suckage sentiment and you can't fucking deny that the quality of games have taken a nosedive but I just want to enjoy another KH game like I used to in the consoles, so I'm ready to accept that kh3 will be it's own thing and hopefully be really good at it, I won't be like 2 but we already have a damn good port of it on the ps4 so we can always go back to that. I just want to enjoy games again
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>>388180569
There's a difference between criticizing a game and damning it and the community doesn't seem to understand that.
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Reminder that BBS was shit for the following reasons
>The main protagonists where either bland, unlikeable, or both
>Ruined Sora being a legendary keyblade wielder, as it was revealed that he's shit compared to 3 literally who's from a decade ago
>Overall shit badly written story
>God awful voice from Terra and even worse for Aqua
>Absolutely no depth in the gameplay, made for button mashing retards, even worse than vanilla KH2
>zero effort put into level design
>Boring enemies
>halfassed minigames and arena
>worst bosses in the series
>ridiculous balance issues
>clunky and slow compared to other games
Xehanort was literally the only good thing about that game, and Terra's final boss. But those two things don't save it from being a shit pile. KH2FM critical mode remains the king gameplay wise and Re:CoM remains the king story wise. That is all.
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>>388180784
This desu. I wish every osaka team member fucking killed themselves and their fans with them.
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>>388180784
>smelly darkness is king story wise
?
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>>388180784
>Ruined Sora being a legendary keyblade wielder, as it was revealed that he's shit compared to 3 literally who's from a decade ago
Except that's been known since KH2 when Xigbar said it
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>>388181051
>Ruined Sora being a legendary keyblade wielder
He never was
kh1 established this. Pay attention next time
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>>388181051
>>388181152
kys osakafags
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>>388181189
>kh1
>osaka
Are you okay anon?
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>>388162964
Read a fucking book.
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>>388181218
you're defending a shit plot point from BBS dumbass
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>>388181152
Meant to respond to >>388180784
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>>388181238
>you're defending a shit plot point from BBS dumbass
Nigga this shit was the fucking twist in KH1, pay the fuck attention
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>>388180986
Re:CoM was the best because it's the only game where Sora and Riku have actual character development. It's the game where Riku turns into the bro he was in 2. It has heavy themes such as Sora choosing to sacrifice his memories for his friend. Riku learning to control his darkness. It's the most "mature" KH game, with people apparently dying, as no one knew about nobodies back then. Axel being an edgelord with a heart of gold. So many double crossing and twists it could be an M Night Shyamalan film. Namine having a silent breakdown when Sora chooses Kairi. Repliku's tortured existance. It truly is the peak of Kindom Kino, and only plebs disagree. Re:CoM is the patrician's choice story wise.
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>>388181328
fuck off faggot stop defending Osaka team via proxy. Multiple keyblade wielders before 1 wasn't a thing until BBS which ruined the lore.
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>>388181238
I'm not that other guy.
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>>388181538
>what is the keyblade war
>who is mickey
>who is riku
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>>388181604
>>388181554
>he keeps going
This is why we have shit KH games
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>>388181538
>Multiple keyblade wielders before 1
Yes it was. The keyblade war was referenced in kh1, riku being the true chosen one was in kh1, mickey sealing the door with kingdom key d was in kh1
Stop being a fucking idiot
>>388181658
You have done nothing to defend yourself besides going "you're dumb". Just stop posting
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>>388181737
>the osakafag keeps going
Next thing I know you're going to defend Dream Drop Shitstane
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>>388181737
>keyblade war in KH1
Was it?
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>>388181772
You do realise you're talking to multiple people right? Please don't become the next XV-kun.
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>>388162905
by real players? ursus
by memespouting faggots? vulpes
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>>388181915
Don't defend Osakashit and I won't
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>>388180784
>half asked minigames
Fuck off nigger the command board was billion times better than gummy missions.
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>>388181975
KEK this retard want to become a Tokyo-kun. I am osakafags come at me nigger
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>>388181498
meh, KH1 was better. I could do without all the bullshit that was introduced in the sequels. The original had the best Disney world incorporation and the themes and story were cohesive and concise. Re:CoM is probably top 3 for me though

>>388181737
>The keyblade war was referenced in kh1
it was? when?
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>>388181830
The story that kairi's grandma tells in kh1 is the keyblade war
It even shows up again in bbs and khux deliberately saying it was
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>>388181975
>I'll stop as soon as everyone agrees with me
Looks like you're already the next XV-kun, congratulations
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>>388163858
inb4 she comes as the next big bad
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>>388181975
BBS is amazing and KH3 by Osakateam is going to BTFO KH2 FM. Did I hurt your feeling mommyboy? Are you crying right now?
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I don't actually want revenge value back, not that I want BBS tier "teleports out of combo" shit, but revenge was too easy to manipulate.

It doesn't promote respecting the bosses just manipulating them.
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>>388177319
Isn't Anti-Form something that happens randomly when activating a form? Could you select in in FM? I've only played the original KHII and haven't touched it in years, so maybe I'm remembering it wrong.
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>>388181975
Why do you autists do this? Why must you come to an anonymous website and try to make names for yourselves? Are you that desperate for attention?
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>>388182132
I have Kingdom Hearts 1 as my second best story. I hate how disney worlds became less and less important as the series went on, and how OC's are the only focus now. KH1 did have a feeling that no other game in the series could replicate. I like them both a lot, but I just like Re:CoM a bit more for the more serious moments, the character development, and the weird, but subdued story, even if it comes at the expense of new worlds, or actual interactions with Disney characters other than Donald and Gooy. I didn't really like the gameplay too much. It was just ok, worked much better for the handheld version. I think KH1 was better overall, counting both gameplay and story.
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>>388182602
RV is something you have to dive into the code to figure out.

Speedrunners can manipulate it because they know the RV stats for every boss.

Nobody else is gonna be able to just see the RV functions while fighting the boss, and it wasn't a function designed with the intention that players would figure it out and manipulate it.
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>>388163858
What is so interesting about character we barely know? Just because she was QT she can't be killed?
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>>388180784
>Ruined Sora being a legendary keyblade wielder, as it was revealed that he's shit compared to 3 literally who's from a decade ago

That's such weak criticism. Who cares if Sora isn't the most special snowflake. That's pretty much the point of Sora that he isn't the best because of himself but because of others.
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>Tfw I'd rather wait for retarded Gamer's Joint's summary of this whole shit rather playing it
This is the path I chose to take
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>>388182893
Watch the cutscenes you idiot, don't give that fag any views.
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>>388182863
>Who cares if Sora isn't the most special snowflake
Sorafags. They're not as vocal as Aquafags, but they're the majority and will chimp out if Sora is not the best. I loved watching them melt down when Riku came out on top in DDD.
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>>388182679
There's always a non-zero probability of it activating, but it approaches one the more you use Valor, Wisdom, or Master form.
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>>388180784
You realise Riku was the true keyblade wielder and Sora just ended up with it because reasons?

If anything BBS ruined by making Sora speshul anyway because Ventus.
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>>388183135
Ventus didn't do anything
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>>388183008
I mean he is the protagonist. It doesn't have to be chosen one tier garbage but he's obviously special
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>>388183135
Ventus had nothing to do with sora getting his own
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>>388183135
Except Ventus did nothing except give Sora a second keyblade, which he'll be taking back once he's out and about
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Sora was never special, hell, he wasn't even supposed to be dragged with all this shit.
If Riku wasn't so autistic and retarded in KH1, the keyblade wouldn't have chosen Sora
Then again, Nomura had to go LMAO, PUT THIS COMA PATIENT'S IN SORA
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>>388182794
Except you can kinda do it casually. Speedrun starts are all well and good, but really it's not hard to accidentally loop for example Roxas if you aren't a masher. Combo into reflect when he retaliates into combo again.
Like you don't even have to be trying just he the dude who likes to reflect instead of guard.

I mean it's not a bad system, but I feel the game would be improved if even at the highest skill it wasn't force AI to do what I want.
Like get the AI to be smarter than just do A or B at damage value X.
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>>388182893
cancer
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>>388183030
That's pretty cool, actually. I didn't use the Forms that much and I recall Anti-Form happening like once or twice.

Chances they'll bring Forms back in III, we've already seen that gun thing they added.
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So Sora dindu nuffin is actually true?
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>>388183561
There's quite a bit of nuance in 2(FM)'s combat if you're trying to survive on Critical at a low level. It's worth picking up again.
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Quick question, why is Sora's theme the only one that sounds happy?
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>>388184127
I always thought the character themes perfectly reflect their characters. And Sora just happens to be the happy go lucky fella who rarely gets down.
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>>388184127
Kairi's and Terra's theme sound kinda "happy" I guess. Not exactly as upbeat as Sora's, but not sad either.
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So what are the odds that Marluxia betrayed the organization because he wanted Ven's boi pucci for himself?
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So with 4 of the Org member probably going to be no 9-12. Who are the remaining 3 going to be?
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Thanks Nomura, put critical information in a god damn mobile game. Fucking hack
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>>388183561
Forms are back, but are slightly different combat-wise and execution-wise.
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>>388154076
>more aqua
lol no, if anything we want actual personality to characters again. Aqua is trash
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>>388184345
But Terra suffer the most terrible fate in KH so far..i think
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>>388184472
Nomura puts critical information in a fucking exclusive private concert. He's a complete madman.
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>>388184472
just watch the cutscenes fag
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>>388184523
Sure, but his theme isn't sad. Take a listen to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7U-x1kpPkI
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>>388184541
What's this again?
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>>388184127
I'm more questioning about why I never hear Sora's theme in Vanita's theme, they say it's in his theme but I can't fucking distinguish it
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>>388184541
It's like he wants no one to know what the fuck is going on

>>388184585
No. I've waited half my life for 3 and sifted through mediocre spinoff after mediocre spinoff that were all actually important but apparently not as much as a mobile game and I know I'm going to be let down by the time 3 comes around. I just don't care enough anymore.
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>>388164069
Who?
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based Nomura
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>>388184541
What is this concert thing?
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>>388184690
Apparently the reason Terra shows up in 2.8 to help Aqua is because Namine somehow got in touch with his lingering will and told him to get off his ass in a brief conversation. I don't know how the fuck that makes sense, but it happened.
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BUt WHat's iN THe BoX!?!?!
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>>388184541
Explain
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>>388184941
>>388185000
That's all I know about it. I don't know what else was revealed.
>>388184947
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>>388184969
3 dalmatians
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>>388185097
I thought you were talking about Vanitas' theme being on the Heroes and Heroines track desu
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>>388184781
https://youtu.be/IqRWHGQatcw?t=29s
I'd say around here is where Sora's theme comes in
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>>388184947
>namine told terra to do a thing despite her not existing at all yet
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>>388184947
I sometimes wonder if he makes this stuff on the fly or he is a genius and plans this out. I'm guessing the former since he didn't notice that Xehanort = No Earth, even though his intentions were clearly No Heart.
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I have no clue what's happening in this thread but I really want to kiss Namine on the lips, also Kairi a shit
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>>388184947
Was it, I thought that whole scene was caused by Xemnas' habit of talking to Aqua's armor in his secret chamber
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>>388184924
;_;
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>>388185296
no...

It goes roxas theme(1:07) > ventus theme(1:21) > sora's theme (1:45)
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>>388184924
wew lad
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>>388185778
Get in the pod already, Sora
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Here are the Orchestra convos.
http://kh13.com/news/exclusive-canon-back-story-for-kingdom-hearts-iii-shown-at-kingdom-hearts-orchestra-world-tour-in-japan
The link for the Namine one is after the other two.
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>>388185525
It doesn't make any sense my man. If Namine talked to him after KH2, then he has no reason to help Aqua since she is with Ansem. If she talked to him during KH1, then how the fuck would she know anything? Maybe she talked to him between Chain of memories and KH2? Anyways, Nomura is a hack and is making shit up as he goes.
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>>388186001
Whoops, forgot the second link.
http://kh13.com/news/spoilers-exclusive-back-story-for-kingdom-hearts-02-birth-by-sleep-a-fragmentary-passage-shown-at-kingdom-hearts-concert-first-breath
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>>388153703
>Nomura is on fucking cocaine. Why do they let him get away with this shit?
Disney wanted KH1 to focus on Disney characters to get their foot in the door and have a new brand to market their characters in. they got that, now they don't care anymore and let Nomura do whatever he wants, which in this case is vomit anime cliches into a game engine.
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>>388182794
>RV is something you have to dive into the code to figure out.
You really don't. My friends and I playing KH2 years and years ago, when I imported the PS2 version, could tell that bosses would retaliate or break out of combos after a certain number of hits, and we could even pick up on things like the fact that Explosion pushed them to retaliate significantly faster than other moves. Anyone who's fighting the bosses seriously and actually paying attention should be able to pick up on it.

That said, there really isn't a better alternative for it. You can have bosses remain staggered for a certain amount of time, which tends to make for boring Zelda-esque bosses, and typically only works for giant enemies, or you can have bosses retaliate after taking a certain amount of damage, which is the same thing as RV except more restrictive, or you can have bosses break out at random, which is shit for a multitude of reasons.

The actual way to fix bosses being manipulable is to just give them multiple responses for both when their RV is reached and for when a combo is dropped before their RV is reached. Some of the bosses in KH2 have this, but some unfortunately only have one response for either one or both of those situations, which makes them easily loopable.
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>>388184947
I haven't heard about this. That's strange. And kind of dumb. Namine fucked up. All that did was put Sora's life needlessly in danger. And it accomplished nothing since Lingering Will went back to resting right afterwards.

I have no idea where this subplot is going. LW doesn't seem to have the intelligence to leave the graveyard and actually hunt down Xehanort. So what good is he? How can he help at all in KH3?
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>>388185525
>>388186032
0.2 ends at the end of KH1, and as per the Days timeline, Roxas and Naminé exist for about a month from the point that Sora releases his own heart up to the locking of the Door to Darkness.
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>>388153703
Fuck Union X. The way Square Enix treats the NA version of the game is abysmal.
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>>388186326
She spoke directly to Terra, not just Lingering Will. The link to the convo is just above.
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>>388186421
I get that but the fact she met mickey in the realm of darkness BEFORE he got his kingdom key which is still before chain of memories and the kh1 final boss makes this confusing as fuck.
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>>388154495
The batshit craziness is why I love it.
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>>388186667
It's the way the game plays out, makes it seem like shit is happening fast but really a lot of time passes outside in the Realm of Light.
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Spoiler alert: Everyone is MoM. Resistance is futile.
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>>388156983

I thought she was the best character in BBS.

As is usually the case with gamers, "that character is boring" is usually code for "this character doesn't have character traits so over-the-top that I can easily latch onto them and define the whole character by it".
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