What happened to videogames. Why are they so shit nowadays?

*insert obligatory reminder that your perception and expectations change with time and experience*
*insert addendum that truly fun concepts never get old*

that's not true, games are better than ever
-t. someone who doesn't subscribe to the idea that autistic hardcore RPG's of the 90s were the pinnacle of games

>>388148739
>*insert addendum that truly fun concepts never get old*
ur right gonna play next copy of TES which will be copy of Skyrim which is copy of Oblivion which is copy of Morrowind which is copy of....[...]

very fun

>>388149112
If all a game has going for it is one story, well it probably doesn't fit the 'timeless game' label.
Now good multiplayers on the other hand... repeatable, slightly varied, consensual insanity, now that's quality

>>388150023
Like Battleborn, Lawbreakers?
same concept

>>388148314
its not just videogames
you can observe the same trend in music and movies as well

>>388150371
so what the solution
what do

>>388150371
Yeah. It's quite fascinating, because it's not happening just now, either. If you look around people who are past 18, they will report the same experience of cultural and medial decay, and it does not even matter when they were born. It quite amazing, really.

>>388150737
Become a little more self aware and realize that it's a matter of perception far more than anything else, and that you are going through the same shit everyone goes? There is an entire set of episodes in fucking Southpark about this, and it was probably released before you were allowed to browse web without supervision.

>>388150921
which episodes are those? Wanna check a look

>>388151001
The episode in particular is unsurpisingly called "You are getting old". I think it bleeds into a follow-up episode, but it's been six years since it's release.

>>388151276
I did watch SP back then it just could not stomatch its a bit extreme humor for long, got over saturated quickly.

I might have never got to that one or just skipped

>>388148314
As soon as vidya became big business it died. Publishers want dollars and they have shareholders to pay.

>>388151391
To be honest, I don't exactly love SP either. My whole point is that this "everything is turning to shit" being an absolutely normal part of growing up (and something that you should outgrow too) that SP made fun of it years ago.

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>>388152123
>and something that you should outgrow too
but it's been like that for years no anon
i cant
pls send help

>>388148314
There were always bad video games, you're just only remembering the good ones. Go look through the complete library of older consoles and see how many bad games there really were.

>>388148314
Fast, good, cheap, pick two.

>>388152123
>>388152279
See >>388151779
Nobody with a brain and/or independent thought thinks there's anything good happening today, or at least anything on the quality of 10-20 years ago. It's pure corporatism/herd mentality shit.

It's sad that a literal Sonic CD romhack that was sold at $20 is what normie call a """"masterpiece"""" these days.

>>388152123
>>388150921
Ok, I just saw the episode and honestly it is not exactly about the issue I've raised
I mean, it is a sister issue but different one, it s the generations issue which I understand

>>388148314
Gaming died in 2007, something about that year, everything went to shit.

>>388152470
How old are you? How utterly clueless and lacking any form of frame of reality?

>>388152547
Tell that to samefag sheep ITT just telling you "it's just you goyim! now go buy COD 9387226192623 and Mario Empty Open World Memeshit!" While shitting on everything that came in the 90s just to be nu-contrarians.

As soon as videogames become the cool thing to do it started going shit

There are undeniable trends in gaming that make modern gaming different than gaming prior.
>The focus on tech rather the actual game design.
>Gaming becoming more about being "cinematic" or "immersive"
>Casualization to reach every possible market.
These are just a few examples.

>>388152952
Um sir you should probably delete this

>>388153116
haha he cant you cant delete posts in /v/ anymore
ahaha

>>388152907
So ever since Atari's Pongbox or do you mean like NES/SNES?

>>388152952
You know that the casualization had hit its peak around the release of Dark Souls, right? Ever since then AAA games became a bit harder or rather required you to actually play.


Also
>immersion is bad

>>388153259
How are you enjoying the latest Naughty Dog cultural marxism propaganda?

>>388148314
Every entertainment medium goes through similar phases

>phase one: kinda weird and unsure of what to do with said medium
>phase two: experimentation. This is the golden area typically where companies/individuals aren't sure what the customer wants and tries anything and everything
>phase three: corporate takes over and medium slowly dies with lack of originality and passion

Tv, comic books, vidya games, movies, etc

>>388153259
>So ever since Atari's Pongbox or do you mean like NES/SNES?
Probably more around the Xbox 360 era I suppose? Like that was definitely the decline. I mean gaming was very popular before then, but at 360 seemed to be where things started to go wrong

>>388153335
No no no no it's obviously just you goyim! Now buy FIFA 18 ultimate GOTY cultural enrichment edition.

>>388148314
>why are the best games the ones that people put dedication and time into
Really makes you think

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>>388153259
>soulscancer argument
>artificial difficulty is a pinnacle of game concept evolution

yeah

>>388152952
>The focus on tech rather the actual game design.
Yeah, because that totally wasn't a thing in the late 90's.
>Gaming becoming more about being "cinematic" or "immersive"
Fist of all, that has hardly been a an overwhelming trends since Minecraft, Dark Souls and retro-gaming became major forces in the industry.

Second of all, I'm gonna go ahead and assume you WEREN'T AROUND the time Medal of Honor, Call of Duty (the original ones), Max Payne, Mafia, and the whole fucking trend of Immersive Sims was the name of the game, right?
>Casualization to reach every possible market.
Again, not really fucking true for about four of five years now.
I don't know if you people are still just stuck in 2011, or if you weren't even around and are now just parroting what you heard older /v/ users say.

>>388153327
Yeah, I think the discussion can end here. You realize that you have became a caricature of the very thing you claim to hate, right? Yeah, you don't really have to bother replying.

>>388152470
This. Cultural marxism is rotting our society from the inside, feminism and white-shaming propaganda is used to slowly destroy the white race, and vidya is now just one propaganda tentacle of all that cancer aiming for the destruction of our society, values and race. Western civilization has never been so close to death as it is now.

At this point I don't even play new games anymore I just replay my old ones

>>388152952
>Casualization to reach every possible market.

I really don't understand this one. A lot of series were extremely successful doing their own thing and then they shot their own foot because they decided they weren't getting enough cash

>hey guys Halo is so last year lets add call of duty elements!
>World of Warcraft is cool and all with it's 12 million subscribers paying for the base game and expansions and subscribing but I hear if we dumb down the game so 4 year old Timmy can beat raids we can get even more money!

>>388153631
>Yeah, I think the discussion can end here. You realize that you have became a caricature of the very thing you claim to hate, right? Yeah, you don't really have to bother replying.
Kill yourself, SJW cuck.

>>388152470
Well I mean a lot of my favorite games did come out around 2000-2004. I don't buy or play many new games now but I've still found a few games within the past few years that I've really enjoyed.

I think there's a bit of stagnation though. We either need to get great quality VR games to see more great things happening or to have a massive improvement in AI. It's really disappointing to see a game that's lauded as the best thing ever but the AI still acts like it did 15 years ago.

>>388153327
What

>>388153534
FIFA/sports games are nothing new at all though.
Also
>cultural enrichment edition
What?

>>388153490
Well, MS introduced a lot of shit that stuck with the XBox brand

>>388153592
That's the logic of cancerous neo-gamers. They basically haven't played a good game in their life, intact they hate anything from the 90s and early 2000s, because that was a time when SJW didn't take over the world.

>>388153719
Glad you can agree, as well as most of this thread. Prepare to see the good old days erased one by one, as they replace it with pure cultural marxism.

>>388153765
This. There literally hasn't been a good game released this year and the last.

>>388153631
>cucknigger LITERALLY arguing in circles
Can't make this shit up.

>>388152547
It was the year when the cultural marxists started an all-front cultural attack on the western society, lacing every piece of entertainment with their propaganda and popularizing social media to spread their ideas to everyone, everyday.

>>388153592
The reason why Dark Souls blew up like that is because other games were so shit easy though.
>artificial difficulty

Nevermind

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>>388152494
>focus on profits fun took the back seat
>less content
>more bugs
>less polish
>more content sold post release

thats why video games are shit. they arent made by the people who actively play them /love them. theyre made by college kids fot a paycheck

>>388153874
>What?
Good goy!

>>388153534
How is Fifa 18 cultural enrichment edition?

>>388153982
Umad Goldstein?

>>388154004
Fucking this. It's sad to see people eat up soulless shit while shitting on all old games.

>>388154032
Ikr? He can keep us entertained while we drop a few redpills on this board.

>>388154079
It isn't (((yet))).

>>388153978
Dark Souls blew up because of lets players and streamers getting so le angry at hard game

Before that only neckbeards and people with bad tastes like the game

How do I join the fight against cultural marxism?

>>388153719
>Western civilization has never been so close to death as it is now.
We had been literally minutes away from extermination of all life about seventy years ago, kid. So no.
And yeah, the "cultural marxism" (which is a term that is going to immediately get you laughed out of any educated discussion by the way) is a problem. Influence of left wing ideology grows in the west and it's a seriously, seriously bad thing.

If you really cared though, you would not be fucking whining about videogames on an anonymous board. The reality is that this is all just a convenient excuse for you to feel sorry for yourself and yet superior to others while you yourself are still the same pile of deluded shit.

So fuck off. Just because the scapegoat you make for yourself also happens to be losely related to something real does not make you not part of the problem.

Reminder that all of Generation Z aka SJW are partaking in a full erasure of products from the 90s, those with an actual soul and heart. They will be replaced with the most shameless of lefty propaganda afterwards. That's all it will ever be.

Forever.

>>388154134
Soccer itself has been super diverse for a long time so I dont see how they could do it.

I finally figured out that they're not really any worse, they just fill a completely different role in my life now. Worrying nonstop about my social status or insecurities made video games a convenient escape when I was younger. I was a success when I beat a friend in Mario Kart or if I finished a whole game.

Now, I'm more or less focused on entertainment value alone and how well I'm engaged with any particular video game. On the whole, I think games have gotten much better, they're just not my comfy escape like they used to be. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug, and I remember some not-so-great games as benchmarks solely because that was the best part of my day growing up, constantly changing schools and never having many friends.

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>>388148314
Have you tried not being a underage moron?

>>388150106
>same concept
not him but yeah, exactly the same fun core concept, shoot at other people while you spam the jump button
that's what a lot of people find fun
truly fun concepts do not get old

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>>388154305
Good goy!
#BlackLivesMatter
#SwedenYes
#NotMyPresident

>>388152470
yeah as opposed to 6547 mario and 3255 mega man games. NEVER BEFORE have companies been greedy. fucking retard

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>>388154134
>while we drop a few redpills

You're dropping nothing except for some wild claims though.

Feels like a dumb tumblr/discord-"raid" or some shit like that

>>388154305
>Worrying nonstop about my social status or insecurities made video games a convenient escape when I was younger. I was a success when I beat a friend in Mario Kart or if I finished a whole game.
So what changed now about your social status?

>>388154524
He's now a paid Bethesda shill.

>>388154581
Didn't ask you faggot.
he also never said anything about any of the bethesda shit

>>388154196
Well, you could look Jordan Peterson, he is just about the most sensible person talking about this subject.
But I'm afraid he won't tell you what you really want to hear. He'll tell you to become a decent fucking human being yourself before you start a crusade. And he right about that.
Besides that, you can go into academia. Educate yourself on the subject, ACTUALLY educate yourself, not internet-educate yourself. Which means that you will have to actually change your own views in the process too. Once you become respectable in your field, you can start teaching, writing, speaking against things that are wrong. But it does assume that you have to become right yourself, and that is not an easy or fast process.

You can talk about it with those who are willing to listen in the meanwhile, vote when there is something to vote for, etc...

The problem is that you really do have to get rid of your own bullshit though. Otherwise no matter what you do, you'll end up causing more harm than good.

And there isn't any other way, either. Not one that would work and not cause more damage than anything.

A lot of games don't leave lasting impressions now, but we are in the best age for timesinks I feel. A lot of indie games that cost me $5 yield hundreds of hours. I used to get kind of depressed "What the fuck do I do now?" when I beat a game, but now there's always that timesink game waiting for me to go back to.

>>388154487
At least every game didn't have DLC and a cuckbox system to extract as much money from people as possible before they realize the game actually sucks

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>>388152470
>>388153719

>>388152123
>and something that you should outgrow too
I feel like this is true. At some point that I couldn't possibly pin down I stopped caring and just started having fun with and enjoying the things I still like.

>>388154134
>Umad Goldstein?
Not really, I think you're just a bit obsessive and paranoid. I'm not saying you're entirely wrong about everything but you reasons are too singular and demonizing.

Video games are more popular now. There's a lot of money to be made from them. The higher ups have an obligation to make as much money as possible for the company. Doing so requires appealing to as many people as possible who will pay for the game. But doing so also means that it won't appeal to people who are more invested in gaming and appreciate things on a different level. There also isn't much reason for them to innovate if it won't make them money, and there's a bit of a stagnation problem with hardware and AI, although that seems to be lessening with more companies working on VR games or showing off their AI more and more.

>>388154265
>Forever

Kek

Nothing is forever you idiot.
The nazis thought they were establishing an empire that would last a thousand years. Didn't last a decade.

>>388153881
t. Underage retard.

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>>388154896
>Didn't last a decade.
well they failed
but if they didnt it would last as long

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>>388155438
They would've failed no matter what because the bigdick USA wasn't even close to going all-out

You're also forgetting about internal strifes

>>388155765
fuck off you tool

>>388155765
I disagree.
Your original statement worded in way it implies that even if they managed to establish it it would fail regardless because it wasn't designed to last long.
But there were example of worse empires existing for hundreds of years

>>388154524
Not a whole lot, really. I'm still an underachiever by every possible metric, a disappointment to my family, and I don't have a lot of friends although a few very close ones. I just stopped caring about that shit, and started caring about my career which I'm doing very well at. It's nothing flashy but it pays well enough, and I can mostly buy what I want and live comfortably. I stopped caring about other people and started worrying about what makes me happy, instead.

>>388155438
>if they didn't fail they would've succeeded
hmm, you're right

>>388154896

Nazi's were a failed iota of dissidence to the very thing you used them to try and refute.

>>388156008
>and started caring about my career which I'm doing very well at. It's nothing flashy but it pays well enough, and I can mostly buy what I want and live comfortably. I stopped caring about other people and started worrying about what makes me happy, instead.
That makes sense.
Hoping to get on yer level someday

>>388155978
The reason why the annexed shit was to rob the gold in the banks to sustain the system/economy.

>>388156168
You can do it too, anon. I was NEET status for a few months and finally decided that what I wanted out of life more than anything else was to never feel like somebody was breathing down my neck. I wanted nobody else's rules, nobody else's chores, and no sense of obligation towards anybody because they still paid a bill or would send money if I needed help. Getting 100% out on my own for the first time was all the help I ever needed. It's a thrilling sensation to never owe anybody, and to start feeling like you owe yourself. You start caring about how things affect you in the long-term and you manage your life better. Having only yourself to rely on makes an enormous difference and I can't recommend it enough.

>>388156771
yeah justa bit different worlds, 1st vs 3rd
kinda hard get a decent job here
still, hope never dies

>>388148314

You are beginning to feel the effects of machine calculations. The reason why it all seems so less satisfying now is because everything is done through market research and analysis. This will continue for quite a while.

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>>388157042
>post yfw a human finally merges with AI and makes the best video games ever

>>388157042
>market research and analysis didn't exist 10-20 years ago