>there are people that unironically think this is the best

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>>388147125
I don't gotta explain shit, bitch.

>>388147125
What is?

>>388147125
i think this is the best open world game made. you get the tools you need to explore, and you can always find new shit. not everything is dripping with shit to do, but it's all pretty interesting.

There isn't a single open world game that capitalizes on it's open world game better than Breath of the Wild, it is the best open world game ever made in that respect.

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This is why OP.

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>>388147125
I don't think its the greatest game ever but it has the greatest husbando in all of vidya

>>388147125
>This isn't even the best open world game ever made.

yes it is.

>>388147125
Fanboys and trend followers wanting to be part of the "next big thing", a "generation defining moment". As the years go by people will become more honest about the game's shortcomings.

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>>388147125
The world is incredibly fun to explore.
This is the main draw of the game.
However, the more you play it, the more the flaws become apparent. This still isn't an issue because you can just go to the final boss and stop playing. So regardless, it's still one of the best games

>>388147125
>>388148536
>>388148883

Five months after release and people are still bitching about GOAT.

>>388149260
It's literally the same fucking treatment as every other game ever made. How is it any special?

>>388149260
>being this new

/v/ talks about Zelda a lot.
/v/ likes to shit on games that are massively overrated by critics.
Combine the two and you get nonstop threads.

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>>388147125
I don't need to explain how amazing it is, the only people who don't agree are jaded nostalgia fags

>>388147125
CHEMISTRY ENGINE.

>>388147125
so what is the best open world game?

>>388148139
Horizon: Zero Dawn on the Sony Playstation 4, of course. #4theplayers

>>388150131
breath of the wild

>>388147125
It's absolutely the best open world game ever made.

>>388150131
Red dead redemption or infamous 2

>>388147125
World of Warcraft is the best open world game ever made.
At least until cataclysm.

>>388150467
>Infamous 2

So fucking boring I don't even remember if I bothered to finish it

>>388150131
Skyrim

>>388150131
Oblivion

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>>388150467

>Red Dead Redemption

>>388150670
Breath of wild was great and really fun but oblivion is still top for me

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Why would I need to explain myself. It's self evident that it's the best game ever made.

>>388150734
What red dead was a great game i liked it more then gta5

>>388150639
you would remember it because it has the most kino endings in vidya

>>388150857
Fuck zelda im waiting for a new console animal crossing judge me i dont give a fuck

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IT'S LIKE SKYRIM BUT WITH FUN!

>>388147125
It's simultaneously one of the greatest games ever made and not the best game this year.

>>388150583
this

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>>388147125

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>>388150131
>no Xenoblade Chronicles X or Witcher 3

>>388150583
>Shitty treadmill mmo garbage is the best at anything
How much have you given Activision for the privilege of playing so far?

>>388151136
Needs to be seconds at this point.

>>388150875

Red Dead was certainly better than GTA, but it's by no means the best open world game ever.

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back to the line, losers. There's plenty of old games that did open world a whole lot better. If you want a good 3d adventure play Gothic.

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Ive played around 40 hours, got the master sword and finished only one guardian so far, been exploring the fuck out of things

Overall? Disappointment. Prime example is something like literally any town in skyrim > botw towns, shitty sidequests (Reward from one I had last night was a single armarith flower in exchange for fucking 5 hot footed frogs), lack of supporting story; LOLMEMORIES doesn't count
The mazes and shrines are made for children, but what do you expect, it's a nintendo game.


I could go on...

>>388152146
The npc interaction alone in skyrim and other elder scroll games make botw looks worse in comparison. You don't get to talk extensively with people or learn their history in Botw. Then there's the way the different systems interact in the world. Not to mention, the open world parts are ten times larger and better than botw's world. Nintendo just aren't going to make a better game like that because their design philosophy doesnt allow it.

>>388150659
I agree

So what does this game excel at
You can burn stuff in other games
You can play with physics in other games
You can electrocute enemies in other games
You can glide in other games
You can climb in other games
You have an actual battle system in other games
You have a world that has actual variety in other games
So where does this game excel at?

>>388148536

>half of the side quests in the game are fetch quests

that's actually a relatively good proportion

>>388152254

the gameplay in those games sucks tremendous dick though

they're different games

>>388150467
Red dead redemption's manages to look emptier than BOTW despite the fact that the map is smaller.

>>388152345

all those areas?

you realise you can excel at something other people have done right? that's kind of the whole point of excellence.

>>388152254
I would rather play botw than skyrim.

>>388152440
>different games

Then in that case, Botw is a failed flight and nature simulator.

>>388152540

>le logical leap meme

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>>388152530
We know, nintendo cuck. Nintendo games are superior they can never do wrong wahoo bing 1-up etc etc

>>388152254
Comparing Zelda's NPCs to Skyrim's is retarded.
The only characters that really matter in the Zelda universe are Zelda, Link and Gannon. Each game is about the story of these three while Elder Scrolls is about the whole world.
Your player character in ES is replaceable and that is fine because it is aiming for a different kind of story telling. Thus ES games have to rely on other characters to flesh out the story

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Not the best game ever but it's the best Zelda since Ocarina.

>>388152345
now put all of them in one game

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>>388152146
>>388152254
>>388152275
>>388150670
>>388150659
Go way Todd

>>388152254

>he open world parts are ten times larger and better than botw's world

by what metric

>>388152654
>The only characters that really matter in the Zelda universe are Zelda, Link and Gannon. Each game is about the story of these three while Elder Scrolls is about the whole world.
Huh. So an open world game that actually has a world to learn and explore is suppose to be a flaw. btw, link is also replaceable. He's only an avatar. In past zelda games, he had people around him who did the same thing, so your argument doesnt make sense. If anything, you're happy that they got rid of that.

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>>388152710
>implications that botw is somehow better than majora's

>>388152778
For example, Elder scrolls has an elaborate crafting and item storage system. Botw does not. Botw couldn't even implement fishing with rods, which did exist in past Zeldas.

>>388152778
Todd's imagination

>>388152345
It doesn't, it's just a mixed bag of random stuff that appeared in games over the decade.
The game itself is good and brings back all those physics puzzles and elemental stuff that was missing in recent open world fantasy games.
But there isn't much of an actual detail, the story is lacking and you only have 2 endings.
The first 5 hours of the game was amazing, but later on you either still play for the next 40 hours and love it or just realize you will be doing the same shit that you already did in the tutorial area.
The only thing to do is fighting those 5 copy pasted "bosses", finish over hundred shrines with short puzzles, do some side fetch quests or even collect 900 korok seeds and get a big golden shit as a reward.

>>388152891

that doesn't strike me as an 'open world part'

>>388152943
Then you need to redefine your definition of open world. If you think open world means how big a virtual map is in the engine, then you're very naive.

>>388147125
But it is

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>>388149434
>/v/ likes to shit on games that are massively overrated by critics.
No, /v/ likes to shit on games that are undeniably successful. /v/ hates games that are successful, loved, and well reviewed. They do this with consoles too. /v/ is contrarian as a collective is contrarian for its own sake and will shit on things that are legitimately good if too many people like or buy it.

>>388153024

you did say largest, and the crafting and item storage systems don't really pertain specifically to the world either. it sounds to me like you're fudging boundaries.

no one is saying play botw INSTEAD OF elder scrolls games. they're very different.

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I refuse to consider a game GOTY unless it fits the following:

>has to run at 60 FPS
>no DLC, ever. Unless it's free. If I pay money for your game, I'm entitled to everything you put out without needing further payment
>it can't be a cinematic experience, IE too many cutscenes or moments when the game slows down the action for "cinematic" moments (Link's flurry rush for example)
>it cannot be universally praised. I don't tolerate filthy normies in my hobby. If it has to have a high metacritic, 90 is the absolute limit. Anything above is extremely sketchy and, if it's by a large corporation, it's guaranteed to be paid reviews.
>no politics or pandering, this means no crossdressing, all women must be moderately dressed, no fanservice, no gender or diversity quotas
>no characters are allowed to have gay tumblr feelings. That means no crying. I had to abandon /co/ after Steven Universe ruined everything, I can't stand seeing that befall other mediums
>overall, it must be challenging. That means normies can't like it, because your average normie is a filthy casual

With all this said and done, tell me why Zelda deserves GOAT.

>>388152818
It objectively is. Majora's Mask is fine if you like puzzle games, but Zelda was never about puzzles and was always about grand adventure, which BotW delivers on. MM is more like Professor Layton than Zelda.

>>388153257

>objectively

stop.

>>388153193
I want the Islamic State to leave.

>>388153171
Largest in the sense that it actually has a lot of content that makes open world work for it. Again your naivety is clouding your observations. And its funny you say its different since Nintendo intentionally was copying the elder scrolls formula, except instead of having bethesda do it for them, they had ubisoft and the xeno guys consult them, instead, the two worse people to come to when the current champions of open world are the GTA and Elder scroll devs. So you're right, they are different. Botw is Assasin Creed: Zelda edition, not open world.

>>388153342
No. BotW is a better example of a Zelda game than Majora's Mask is, that's a plain and simple fact.

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>>388153347
>bringing up religion for no reason

>>388153459
false. MM actually has a story, characters, music, dungeons, and interesting items.

>>388147125
You know what is the best game? Dark Souls it's the Rick and Morty of video games

>>388147125
Breath of the Wild is equivalent of MGSV:TPP, except TPP had a fast, fluid and fun gameplay when in BotW you either have the barebones fighting system or can use the few gimmicks to your liking if they are usable at the moment at all.

>>388153506
>No reason
>no politics or pandering, this means no crossdressing, all women must be moderately dressed, no fanservice, no gender or diversity quotas
>no characters are allowed to have gay tumblr feelings. That means no crying. I had to abandon /co/ after Steven Universe ruined everything, I can't stand seeing that befall other mediums
>No reason

Far Cry did what Botw was trying to do better. And that game had the advantage of being on a more powerful console.

>>388153383

>Largest in the sense that it actually has a lot of content that makes open world work for it.

that is not the same as the 'largest and best open world parts'.

just be disciplined. i can engage with the idea that there are systems in the elder scrolls which are deeper, but you're trying to say 'oh, botw's large and varied open world is actually smaller than elder scrolls because of these unrelated reasons'. you can't get that past people.

> intentionally was copying the elder scrolls formula

i don't agree with that.

>Botw is Assasin Creed: Zelda edition, not open world.

you're obviously trying to redefine open world here.

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>>388153603
>oh no, someone doesn't want the game to pander to tumblr with muh strong womyn who also happen to cry alot, how horrible

>>388153565
Story and characters are not and have never been essential to classic Zelda. It's true that dungeons and music are, but MM's dungeons are fucking boring as shit. If MM had dungeons like LTTP we'd be having a different conversation, but MM's dungeons are slow, puzzle-ridden slogs that are completely unexciting and not in any way dangerous. BotW's dungeons suck, too, but at least it has a dangerous and expansive overworld.

Having a think
Buy a switch and play BOTW, or buy Horizon and Nier for the PS4
give me some pointers /v/

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>>388153383
what the fuck is this post?

>>388153459

>better example

what does that even mean?

to an autist like ulililia, a game that has the biggest and most arduously obtained numbers is the best possible rpg. it's not objective. there are lots of objective things you can say about games, but when you start talking in terms of good and bad, you are fighting a losing battle against the numerical certainty that a plurality will disagree with you.

>>388153817
We're not your mother, faggot. Get the fuck out of here and make your own decisions.

>>388153725
>being afraid of emotions
Some help, I need to report this sociopath to the cops.

>>388153583

>can use the few gimmicks to your liking if they are usable at the moment at all.

that sounds exactly like TPP

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>>388147125
>tfw want to play Breath of The Wild
>hate the controller that came with it

What were they thinking? Why can't they go with something practical rather than retarded gimmicks? Is there anything like an Xbox sorta controller for the Switch that I don't know about?

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>>388153805
>Story and characters are not and have never been essential to classic Zelda

Except the most successful zeldas of our time had those very things. Dont rewrite history

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>>388153948
>I can't go 5 seconds without being told what emotion to feel
>I can't play a video game unless the game makes me have feelings

Tumblr please.

>>388153805
>BotW's dungeons suck, too, but at least it has a dangerous and expansive overworld.
>walk or climb past anything threatening
>dangerous

>>388153805

>Story and characters are not and have never been essential to classic Zelda.

has there ever been a game without them?

>>388154015
There's Pro controller which is really good aside from the d-pad. It costs 80€.

>>388153926
You better show some fucking respect and answer my question if you know what's good for you, you faggot

>>388153838
Better example in that it resembles classic Zelda more than Majora's Mask. People love classic Zelda and it's what the series is known for, therefor it's what Zelda should be, and BotW most resembles those values.

MM is a poor example of a Zelda game because it strays from so many of those fundamentals. It's a puzzle game with Zelda paint on it. It's Mario is Missing but with Zelda instead.

>>388153817
Get both PS4 and Switch but do not buy Horizon since it's one of the worst exclusives on the console, you can get better games on PS4 then that.

>>388154235
>and BotW most resembles those values.
Then why did Botw remove everything classic zelda had?

>>388147125
>Explain yourselves. This isn't even the best open world game ever made.

Isn't it? What's a better open world game? I don't think the competition is very fierce since open world games are mostly made for retards in mental-comas these days, so I'm curious to know.

>>388154121
No, but they're not why you play the game. You play the game for the adventure, not the characters.

>>388154235

>Better example in that it resembles classic Zelda more than Majora's Mask.

that doesn't make it a better example of zelda, that makes it a better example of a game that resembles the original zelda.

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>>388154270
I got your better open world game right here.

>>388154268
Such as?

>>388154485
you're a lost cause

>>388154412
... Which is a better example of a Zelda game.

>>388154364
Characters make the adventure. checkmate

You explain yourself first.

>>388154545
>no argument

Cool.

>>388154475
I like terraria a bit myself, but come on. That game is just an autism-zone unless you bring a friend to play it with.

>>388154661
>That game is just an autism-zon
Botw is an autism sim. Every screenshot of it has been of people fapping over exploration or pretending the game is deep cause they can ride a tree by abusing a time lock physics mechanic. The game doesn't even have a goal. It's literally an autistic sandbox.

>>388154572

no it doesn't.

>>388147125
It is though. It's the best crafted and most consistently impressive game I've ever played.

>>388154767
>The game doesn't even have a goal

It literally does have a goal you obvious fucking shitposter

>>388154893
>I've ever played
play more games

>>388154909
An optional goal. Defeat Ganon except you don't have to do it cause the game is just about wanking off to how explorative it is, which has nothing to do with the game's goal.

>>388154631
They really fucking don't. You don't play LTTP because you're worried about those poor princesses who are sealed away, or to avenge you poor uncle. You play because you want to explore a big world with frightening dungeons and kill shit. Agahnim's identity as Ganon, Zelda's possible relation to the player character, don't mean shit. Zelda was never successful because of the characters. They're literally cardboard cut-outs, but no one gives a shit because that's not what they're playing the games for.

>>388154845
>Original Legend of Zelda
>Not a better example of a Zelda game than MM

Blocked.

>>388155058
>You don't play LTTP because you're worried about those poor princesses who are sealed away, or to avenge you poor uncle
Except this presentation was exactly what set the tone for the rest of the game, including when the mid game surprise comes around. If Ocarina of Time didn't have the narrative of Link, Zelda, the triforce, the sacred realm, or the time skip, it would be a lesser game for it.

https://www.destructoid.com/breaking-down-why-breath-of-the-wild-is-highly-overrated-452329.phtml

Zelda fags BTFO

>>388154661
>autism zone

You make that sound like a bad thing. For every good thing Zelda does, Terraria kind of does it better.

>runs at a more stable framerate
>free DLC for 6+ years, whereas Zelda already announced a 20 dollar season pass
>expert mode is infinitely more fun than Zelda's hard mode
>non-linear progression, which means you don't even have to dig that much to get tools and ore
>every character you meet has much more use in the overall game,
>movement options are through the roof (you can ride on a log Link? Try and match me while I kiss the skies with my gravitation potion, plant grappling hook, and unicorn and/or spaceship mount)
>more bosses
>better variety in enemies
>fantastic mod support
>pretty nice multiplayer for people who like that sort of thing
>lower res artstyle means less money spent on graphics, which means a more affordable product and the company breaks more profit without needing to squeeze the customer dry
>customization of your own character is insane, be it with cosmetics, dyes, or stat changing accessories

I'd say it's the best game I've played in 10 years.

>>388155162
It's just a barebones story to explain a gameplay mechanic. That's it.

>>388155161

why is it better?

>>388155324
And yet that barebones store is ten times more story than Botw's.

>>388155161
The NES Zelda is a dated piece of shit but even that still has dungeons and item progression. you know something INTEGRAL to the entire series? BotW throws that away for MUH FREEDOMS

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>>388147125
>Obligatory

>>388154767
I don't see how it's an autism sim, based on what you're saying. Do you have any experience with it outside of what some aspies posted?

Terraria is so bland and ugly that it is an autism sim by default, to me. Again, I still have a soft spot for it because it's a strangely good one and it's fun to share with friends, but BotW is a totally different rank of game. Its mechanics aren't the most complex, but it feels like the most mechanically rich open world game I've played so far. I do keep a bit of naivete with me when I play it, especially since a bit of criticism can shit all over its delicate illusion, but the game has given me a delightful feeling that's stuck with me over the past few days. It's too lovely to be autistic. I'll stop boring you with my opinion, though.

>>388153072

Like Bioshock Infinite and Final Fantasy XV. Clearly both GOATs but the /v/ contrarian hivemind will convince you that they're not modern day Citizen Kane's.

>>388155345
It has an open world, is difficult, rewards player exploration, does not have any real gameplay gimmicks (a three day timer, a big ocean, the sky), has tight combat and intense action. And no obnoxious story that gets in the way of the game.

LoZ is a grand adventure. MM is a depressing slog through a swamp.

Also better music.

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>>388155581
What did anon mean by this?

>>388155646
>Terraria is so bland and ugly that it is an autism sim by default,
Didn't your mother ever tell you never to judge a book by its cover?

>>388155419
No disagreements there, I wish Nintendo hadn't placed anywhere near as much of a story in BotW as they did. At least it was mostly optional.

>>388155706
You gonna post robot porn or am I just gonna sit with my dick in my hands?

>>388155646
>most mechanically rich open world game I've played so far
You havent played many games. Botw is very shallow compared to a well constructed open world game. Again older games did what Botw did much better. All you're being tricked with is that Nintendo let you play with a glider in open space and let you climb virtual walls while not offering anything to give substance to either. This game could have easily been made into a glider/ climbing game with various levels of using these skills, aka a platformer cause Botw has nothing else going for it. That's the problem with Botw. Every mechanic in it is never important or leads anywhere. It's like if Mario 64 was only about the area outside the worlds. You can jump around the castle and shit, but you'll never do anything with those skills.

>>388151136
mandatory

>>388155212
Whenever I criticize Terraria I end up remembering how much great material is in it, like your nice list, and end up wanting to play it again. I call it an "autism zone" mostly because it's so audio-visually bland and you can spend so much time in a domestic area crafting/building stuff (nice with friends at least), but you're right, it deserves credit.

>>388148542
manly body + feminine eyes is a godly combination

>>388155694

i don't think i found botw more difficult than mm

>does not have any real gameplay gimmicks (a three day timer, a big ocean, the sky)

the fuck does that mean?

>has tight combat and intense action

stop talking like you're writing copy for the back of the retail packaging.

>no obnoxious story that gets in the way of the game.

i found some of the story elements in botw quite obnoxious.

>Also better music

eh. BOTW's music is pretty great. if there were music/sound effect sliders i think more people would get the benefit of it.

>>388156632
Stop with the reddit spacing.

>>388157128

how would you prefer i spaced it?

i have literally never been on reddit.

>>388157340
stop pressing enter twice in between lines. it is not hard.
you're doing it on purpose for a reason, to draw more attention maybe? for most people, they will simply hide, or scroll over your post because of tldr. compress your posts into easy-to-read paragraphs without doublespacing
like this. not trying to rag your shit, but it makes it much easier for others to read and has been the bbs norm forever

>>388157539

the intention is merely to separate independent sections of text, not to 'draw more attention'.

>>388152363
It's more likely 70%, and even at 50 there's half a chance that every npc you meet will offer a fetch quest. This will seriously put you off doing side quests

>>388147125
Open world is a style of game, not a genre in and of itself. The term "best open world game" doesn't mean the same thing as "best RPG game".
BotW is definitely the best open world game, but other open world games are better.

>>388157785

yeah but relative to other games it's not that bad.

>>388158390
>BotW is definitely the best open world game, but other open world games are better.
anon, that doesn't make sense

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My main issue is the charm. it's gone

All the characters that I came to like in the previous entries such as malon, marin, etc are lost. This game focuses on Zelda and the 4 guardian wielders. I expected more. It makes me sad to see this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db15jJl9Gfk
remembering all the characters I met along the way and more.. it's a feeling that just didnt even come close to touching with BOTW. The whole reminiscent aspect (most of the cutscenes were memories) is annoying for me in botw. I miss the old zeldas.

>all these posts about botw lacking good characters
I don't understand it, botw has loads of great characters in it with good dialogue writing too. Not only are there more NPCs, but many of them say and do significantly more than in past milestones in the series like OoT and MM.

>>388159260
Knew someone wouldn't get it.
I consider Skyrim to be a better game than BotW, but BotW had a better open world.
"Open world" isn't a genre of game, it's a style. I don't consider "2D" or "3D" to be genres either, it's the same principle.

>>388160000
>I consider Skyrim to be a better game than BotW
How?
I have 200+ hours in both of those games and BotW is better in every aspect I can think of.

https://twitter.com/mombot/status/895175444944867330

>>388160149
It was an example. But, I enjoyed the setting much more and I like games with RPG elements more than Action/Adventure, even if they're shitty.
Character customization, mods, and more interesting side quests made Skyrim a better game in my opinion. I regularly return to the newer Bethesda games because I can play it a different way each time and have a blast. Can't say the same of BotW.

>>388160416
Well I completely disagree on all of that, but each to their own I suppose. For me, the only saving grace for Skyrim are the mods.

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>>388147125
I got it at launch and I still play it almost every day.
It's easily in my top 5 list even though it has some obvious flaws that don't really personally bother me too much.

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>>388151136
This no longer describes the intensity of /v/'s autism.

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>>388160875
A version not for fucking ants.