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Have to scoff at people saying AAA games aren't sustainable

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Have to scoff at people saying AAA games aren't sustainable when an indie dev team makes a game like Hellblade and then sell it for $30
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Hell yeah! Hellblade is game made for us whosl sklfjes i am dying.
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>>388099205
To be fair, the people who made the game on bottom made DmC. So considering their track record is shit games constantly I'm not exactly sucking their dick over making another shit game look slightly nicer.
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Helblade is fucking shit.
>indie dev team
Ninja Theory isn't fucking indie. And they were supported by big studios during the developement.
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Gee, TamTam, same thread, AGAIN? Wew. How about a nice fuck you?
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>>388099205
Ive been saying this for years now:
Mere "AA" and indie/mod game devs are the future.

Modern classics like Serious Sam 3 and The Talos Principle were both made with mere 0.5 million dollar budgets by small 12-15 man studios in ex-Commieblock country.
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>>388099205
both are garbage.
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>>388099205
Reddit and /v/ are the same now, time to end my life
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>>388099205
Hellblade is selling like shit.

Conan is an early access with 1 year of development and a small team, it sold 500k copies in a week.

Ass Effect Andromeda sold a million +
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Hellblade was a 6 hour game and had only one character to animate...
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>>388099205
>top
minority modelers. diversity sure paid off huh ea?
>bottom
white modelers who know what theyre doing
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>>388100429
>>bottom
>white modelers who know what theyre doing
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>>388100429
This diversity meme needs to fucking die, companies need to hire people who can do the job and stop hiring people purely on their tackle or skin color.
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>>388099205
Not a fair comparison.
One is based on an animation system for conversations.
Two is face capture which is much easier.
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>>388100851
I hope that racist film never gets released.
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>>388099205
>>388099367
Enslaved is the only good Ninja Theory game, prove me wrong
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>>388099205
Eh, inexperienced assholes that aren't the actual big studio but previously a porting team fumbling a product way too big for them

Highly experienced studio with a smaller game
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>>388099205
>/v/ think she is ugly
>she out of most /v/ neckbeards league
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>>388101174
Was there even given a reason why Monkey didn't simply kill the fuck outta Trip the second she was not looking or in the middle of a pitched battle or something?

She's cute and all and it would be kind of a waste, but putting him in a fucking collar like an animal is rude as fuck too.
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>>388100851
They could have hired anyone for that bike scene and put a helmet on him

But it had to be a black stuntwoman because they wanted the fro visible at all times
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>>388101993
lol virgin projection
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>>388102630

If she dies the slave crown kills him. That's why she did it, so he'd have no choice but to protect her.
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>>388102982
How is a helmet gonna fit on there anyway?
Nobody would have died if they didn't blackwash characters
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>>388099205
you barely do anything in hellblade gameplay wise compared to mass effect games, not saying it excuses Bioware but you can't compare these games when the gameplay is completely different.
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>>388099205
Why do western developers intentionally make their characters unattractive?
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You can't just throw money at things and it'll automatically make it great.
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>>388100429
This
When it comes to animations, you really need some solid talent behind it, you can't outsource it to some Indians
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>>388099205

Why do they always make the nose bigger?

Aloy has this gigantic jew nose, and even this woman's gets slightly bigger.

Kinda weird.
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>>388099205
/v/
>"can't beleve she is ugly! Sjws at it again"!
Also /v/
>"The superior grafics and facial design of this game is a product of the white man".
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>>388103751

Not even sure what your point is.

/v/ is not one person.
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>>388099367
>Hellblade is THE shit
FTFY
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>>388102630
She was autistic and got a pass because of that
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>>388103243
They're blackwashing Domino?
Dropped faster than light.
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>>388103751
those two points don't contradict each other, are you drunk?
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>>388100851
She had to be black because the real character is black, are you retarded?
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>>388103751
Name one 3D Modelling technique invented by black people.

I'll wait.
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>>388104038
>/v/ is not one person
Speak for yourself dickwad.
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>>388101174
That would be pic related
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>>388101174
Enslaved was fucking trash that was an insult to the source material. How fucking dare they hw FUCKING DARE THEY FUCK WITH MY SUN WU KONG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01jDsiEGkj8
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>>388099205
hellblade is like 3 hours long with shit gameplay, animations, designs and writing
not exactly the best example
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>>388104508
They could've just put a helmet on her.

But in any case they should hire actual qualified stunt performers (black women stunt performers, if necessary for the role) instead of just any black woman. Now this chick is dead.
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>>388099205
Is not a fair comparison. Mass Effect Andromeda had literally thousands of characters while Hellblade has like 20 tops. Mass Effect is also a complex open world rpg while Hellblade is a linear generic action simple game. Bioware to allocate resources where it mattered the most which is awesome gameplay.
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Hellblade was a game the devs wanted to make but also an R&D project for face scanning and a bunch of UE4 shit.
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>>388104513
>Anyone who isn't white is black.
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>>388104703
the animations are superb, I agree with the other points tho
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I will never forgive them for making the travesty that is DmC
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>>388105115
It was a good game though.
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>>388103354
it's "realistic" and "relatable"
Because pretty people are very rare in our world, they aren't relatable, and not grounded enough. They are basically mythological creatures.
The actress is actually attractive in a average gal kind of way, but they still went out of their way to change her.
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>>388101174
average as fuck game with a cute redhead, that's all it is.
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>>388099308
DMCfags will never stop being buttblasted. Your series was never good. There's a reason it isn't getting a sequel ever.
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>>388105248
The only reason she's unattractive is because of her fucking weird hair.
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>>388105325
no, they tweaked her face to make her ugly.
Just like Ninja did
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>>388099205
They are both disgusting, western game developers will never make an attractive girl
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>>388101174
>>388099205
what a minute, these girls from hellbade and enslave are similar
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>>388104678
that looks like shit
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And both of them still play like hot fucking garbage.
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>>388099205
On the eastern side...
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>>388099205
The face doesn't actually look like that during gameplay. Have we learned nothing from Killzone 2/Witcher 3/Uncharted 4/Watchdogs/etc?
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>>388105851
What's wrong with her face?
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>>388103354
>>388105248
Life like models don't look good in Vidya
The Japanese know this and that's why they turn their female characters into unrealistic waifus
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both sucks
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>>388105851
I hope the japs complain enough to get her changed, at least fix that fucking nose holy fucking shit.
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>>388105549
well at least post woman from this game, not just cats
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>>388105248
>they still went out of their way to change her
Or, get this, they just fucked up the mo-cap.

But no, I guess it's way more plausible that they're out to get you for undefined reasons
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>>388105443
>base character on real actress/model
>real women don't look like that!
>make her ugly

OR

>base character on real actress/model
>incompetent
>we wanted to make her look like a real woman!
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This thread was just a post on reddit yesterday. Op you fucking fag
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>>388105248
>pretty people are rare in our world
>They are basically mythological creatures

Maybe in your world uggo.
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>>388101174
Enslaved is the fucking worst game by them.
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>>388099205

All those characters are ugly. NT can't do gameplay or artstyle to save them. They make technologically impressive turds.
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>>388105968
>we messed up excuse
Are you being serious right now?
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>>388106126
Retarded or bait
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>>388099931
Hellblade is also on GoG though, doesn't make much sense at all to buy it on Steam. That being said the game is a 6-7 at best and everything relating to actual gameplay is in the shit to mediocre quality interval, so it makes sense that it isn't selling much, it's not a very good game at all.
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>>388100851
Or they could just make Domino appearance canon and let her be white. That way nobody would have died because stunt rider could be someone else.
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>>388105248
Pretty people aren't rare at all, that doesn't make any sense. Most of the time if people are ugly it's because they don't take care of themselves or they are fat/old. It's more rare for someone to have a totally disfigured or truly ugly face.
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>>388106472
Are you Canadian by any chance?
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>>388101174
i want to _be_ Trip!
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>>388105248
:^)
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>>388106539
No, I'm american so I have to look beneath about 50 to 100 lbs of excess fat to see it but the average person is at least passably attractive when in their "prime" years. Which makes sense if our species is meant to survive.
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>>388106339
>GOG
Literally who?
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>>388106610
>3 posts in a row
/v/ really is autistic, I thought this was just a meme.
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>>388106201
Yes, I am. Because whatever you're talking about makes absolutely zero sense except in your own persecution complex addled mind
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Hellblade is shitty and short, so grafix are all it has going for it.
That said, Andromed is also shitty, and being longer is arguably worse.
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>seriously comparing a 8 hour game to an 80 hour game
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>>388105321
>There's a reason it isn't getting a sequel ever.

Yup.

Capcom's retarded.
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>>388105968
Modelers have come out to say shit like this before. Where execs think a character is too attractive. E.g. andromeda.
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>>388106814
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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>>388107014
not him but do you as well? genuinely curious.
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>>388105321
I mean it got 3 sequels and two updated versions of sequels so I'm not so sure this is a particularly sound argument
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>>388107212
Proof of what? That they didn't make her objectively hideous on purpose?
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>>388103243
I fucking hate deadpool now, we could of had a 10/10 waifu.
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>>388104508
The character from the comics is Japanese / white, they made her black in the movie purely for the sake of diversity.

Then they realised there were no black female stunt drivers so took one that was not qualified and she died.
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>>388107589
Why aren't there any black female stunt drivers? White patriarchal power structures.
Why can't they use a white or male stunt driver? Racist/sexist/heteronormative/transphobic bigotry.
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>>388099393
FUCK YOU
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Western game devolpers rarely ever focus on girl protagonists because it shows how incompetent they are at making something attractive
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>>388107889
Classic Lara disagrees
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>>388099205
Top
>dozens and dozens hours of gameplay with a metric ton of dialogue

Bottom
>linear 5-10h experience with barely any gameplay and not that much of dialogue

Woah, totally fair comparasion....
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>>388107589
>>388107732
you people are sociopaths
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>>388108414
The image is highlighting the quality of the models you brain damaged sperg
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>>388108549
My point still stands fuckface.

Modeling 1 character (ie the MC) or modeling hundreds of characters. Not comparable.
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>>388107889
animu samefaces are the easy way to make a character "attractive" to weebs with no standards.
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>>388108786
Your point would stand if the MC of Andromeda, who is in fact ALSO moccaped from a real woman, looked if not as good then at least as accurate as the Senua mocap. But she doesn't. Because Bioware can't model for shit, even when a facial capture is involved. Hundreds of side characters or one main character, they're completely incapable of it.
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>>388104568
>>388104038
Shut up ME!

I am everyone in this thread and we're having a NICE arguement. now o sit in THAT corner of my brain with the BAD thoughts and take your punishment like a man!!!
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>>388105248
The face looks like it was memed, but it actually was very carefully crafted to have "strong features"
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>>388099205
Making a game for the money and not because they want to make a game is the non sustainable thing.

Once you realize that video gays companis today are owned by stock market Jews you will stop bitching about "muh sjws" and "muh casuals" Its all orders from the CEO

CUT CUT CUT costs and maximize profit
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>>388099205
We know why it's like this. Marxist left-leaning tumblrites and treehugger types flooded the american and european tech industries, seizing upon the staggering populace who were trying to deal with 3rd wave feminism, and then flooding many companies with quality-lowering, creativity-diluting, agenda-pusher garbage. hence why andromeda now has an achievement for doing an entire playthrough as a gay, and why the romance is obviously written to appeal to tasteless middle-aged fan-whales.

these are the same people who endorse common core (basically adding more steps for retards who can't even handle simple BEDMAS), and are currently trying to buy twitter just to shush someone they can't seem to shout down into silence
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>>388108498
I dunno man, we didn't kill someone via virtue signalling. That's all on the movie producers.
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>>388105325
nope can´t fix her
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>>388099931
you're comparing an original IP to a known IP (conan) which also had twitchbaiting elements for maximum exposure (literally)

not at all a fair comparison
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>>388099401
Poland is a shithole, but arguably the hardest working population on the planet. we got a middle aged polish women at my book warehouse once and her number sin the first week matched that of veteran employees.
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>>388101993
dude, you can fuck anyone women you want as along as you listen to them drivel on about whatever self-important shit thier on that day.
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>>388101174
haven't played enslaved but from what i remember heavenly sword was actually pretty good what it was
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>>388106270
this poster, never spent 8 minutes walk around Manhattan.
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>>388099205
Is tameem still with them?
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>>388101174
>Enslaved
>good
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>>388111729
Bet your candy motherfucking ass he is.
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>>388099205
>Both ugly as sin

What's the difference
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>>388111324
If a middle aged woman works as hard as a veteran man from your country, that doesn't mean you have the hardest working population, it means you're literally retarded and your population is lazy way beyond average.
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>>388102982
>Named "Domino"
>Literally changed character color from white with a black spot to black with a white one

Fucking wow really? If this was a more well known character this shit would never fly.
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>>388111876
>doesn't know shit about poles.
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DO NOT CALL HER UGLY
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>>388106610
>Dutch
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>>388099205
Listen their faces are tired from making shitty games cut them some slack
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BOTH

ARE

UGLY

MONGOLOID

SHAPED

ROASTIES

.
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>>388112395
Stay out pls. This land is for giants only.
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>>388100851
>We'll be diverse even it kills us, literally
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>>388099205
I hesitate to call Ninja Theory a indie dev team.
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>>388113147
Yet I'm a fucking manelt. Fuck my life.
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Andromeda actually has gameplay and more than 1 enemy.
I can't believe that I'm defending that POS.
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>>388106358
>Domino
>White
Nice try alt right fag but you aren't fooling anyone.
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>>388111324
you work hard on robbing east german graveyards and cars. that's it
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>>388113247
Well acording to an interview, only 20 people worked on the game.
https://www.redbull.com/gb-en/hellblade-ninja-theory-interview
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>>388107589
>Domino
>Japanese
Fuck off, don't talk about comics you don't read.
>>388113547
That's hardly indie.
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>>388099205
yeah and what system is going to run that shit? How much have they accomplished?
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>>388113598
>That's hardly indie.
Arrowhead (Magicka/Helldivers dev) is made up of about 25 people, and they're considered indie.
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>>388099205
To be fair hellblade's facial animations are unequivocally disgusting.
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>>388113961
>unequivocally
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4BbxV3iJg8
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>>388113956
I don't think that was makes something indie is how many people are working on it.
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>>388114090
So what does make something indie?
The price of the game?
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>>388113705
>what system is going to run that shit?
PS4 and PC
>How much have they accomplished?
They sold 100k units on steam in 10 days
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>>388114180
How much experience the team has and how much freedom they had with the project.
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>>388114180
Being independent of a publisher or other parent company. Indie is short for independent. Do people really not know this?
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>>388114351
>>388114364
Hellblade was self-published by Ninja Theory, so i think it counts as independent.
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>>388114449
I agree.
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Diversity quotas are fucking ridiculous.

I'm a pretty liberal guy and try and stay away from SJW types and the bizarro SJW's on the other side of the coin but it's clear that if you are getting a bunch of trans, women and PoC to fill out your studio because you're oh so progressive then the quality is going to drop because the best devs in the world are overwhelmingly white males who have dedicated their life to the craft. Also once you let identity politics seep in to every element of your work it's going to suck a bag of dicks as well.

This doesn't mean you can't have a super talented trans dev or a super talented black women, etc but the chances of those people actually being good is drastically lower for a whole bunch of reasons.
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>>388099205
Are we implying that not both look fucking ugly and the bottom game literally made the video game model ugliert han the actress on purpose for SJW agenda?
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>>388112262
she's fugly
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>>388112262
I'LL CALL HER WHATEVER I LIKE, ANON.
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>>388113365
What?
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