What reason is there to get a console in 2017? This generation

Everything is digital. It might not be a big deal to most people, but I can't give up on physical media yet.

>>388092145
Plug and play ease

>>388092406
>plug in ps4
>system update
>an hour later put in disc
>game needs to update
>2 hours later finally get to play
>have to pay PS+ subscription

okay

>>388092145
Uhhh piracy doesn't count

>>388092468
Not him but installing windows and then all of your drivers and then the games you want to play is probably more painful

Yakuza.

>>388092145
bloodborne is worth a ps4

>>388092468

>plug in system
>two hours of things that get done automatically
>pay for an optional service, or don't

It's still easier than PC, which is what many consumers want.

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>>388092602

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>>388092145
why not have a console AND a pc?

>>388092635
Awards don't mean shit. By that logic Fallout 4 is better than Bloodborne

>>388092619
>install windows
>everything from there on is automatic
wow anon, you sure showed me

>>388092145
>all these "great" titles on pc
>primarily a pc gamer and bought one of them
>haven't played more than 3 hours on it in the last month
what a time to be alive.

>>388092145
Playstation vs. PC fights are the most amusing fights to watch.

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>>388092635
lol

>>388092768

>PC
>either spend way too much money on a prebuilt, or spend hours looking for what you want on newegg for cheap.
>wait two weeks or spend extra to get it shipped quickly
>If you went newegg, then you now need to spend an hour assembling everything
>after assembly, you need to install your chosen OS and drivers
>download game because everything is digital, and wait for it download which can take a few hours depending on the size of the game and your internet speeds
>finally play your game

It's certainly not as easy as a console. It's much easier than before, but don't make it seem like it's not something an average consumer wouldn't be intimidated by.

>>388092654
Why buy a console though?

Whatever extra you would be better spending on the PC

>>388092654
who is she?

>>388092954

a living meme

>>388092654

paid online

>>388092910
For games you can't buy on PC, duh.

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>>388092901
You're literally insulting your own intellegence by saying that

>>388092982
>paid online
And what online games would you exactly play on consoles which you can't on PC?

>>388092990
Like what?

>>388093006

Sorry what? I gave a realistic experience for starting to PC gaymen. You can go out and buy a console at your local supermarket electronics section, go home and plug it in and everything will be done automatically. Buying a PC from your local supermarket will net you an extremely weak PC for the money you spend.

>>388092145
PC costs a lot.

>>388093043
Yakuza or Project Diva. Or Sony first party games such as Gravity Rush.

>>388093040

No, It's another reason not to buy a console.

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>>388092145
You forgot trails of nothing personnel

>>388092145
PS4 exclusives
Not waiting an excessive amount of time to play these games
More people have a PS4 over a PC to play these games
Larger communities in some cases like MH World

I have a PC and enjoy it. I also have a PS4 and enjoy it. I don't have to really choose or wait, having only one is the only dumb choice.

The Switch is legit useless though, since it has no games and is still sporting garbage hardware.

>>388093118
> Weeb rhythm game

You may have a point with interesting exclusives like Yakuza 0 and Gravity Rush 2.

>>388093425
Project Diva might not be a system sell, but it's definitely worth once you have the system.

>>388093118
http://www.pcgamer.com/yakuza-and-persona-are-on-that-list-of-games-sega-want-to-bring-to-pc/

>>388093306

WHY DOES EVERY CHARACTER WALK ONTO THE SCENE WITH THEIR FUCKING EYES CLOSED, LIKE OPEN YOUR EYES YOU FUCKING RETARDS, LOOK WHERE YOU'RE GOING

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>>388092910
exclusives, of course. not going to wait 7 years for vanquish to get a port.

>>388092145
The main reason is because you know any game will work perfectly, all a developer has to do is test the game on one console and it works on them all.

You cannot say the same for PC.

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>>388092982
if you cant afford a hobby, find a new hobby

>>388093531
There's one localized Yakuza game on PS4, next one is getting released next week, other one releases next year and yet another one is getting announced this Saturday in Japan. Even if they'll really bring Yakuza game on PC (which I doubt with current Sega), you'll be missing out on certain games in the series.

>>388093531
Promises aren't the same as them being on their. Why wait on something that may never happen, and when it does, it will be several years later?

Sorry to break it to you, but not all of us want to wait for a port or beg for one to play the games that we desire. I play mainly on PC too, I'm just not a retard that waits for emulation/ports to play old ass games.

The only exception is when the game performs awfully or can be heavily modded, like Dragon's Dogma or Dark Souls 1, otherwise most games dont need ports.

>>388092564
You only need to do this once. Steam takes care of all your needs.

>>388093668

I'll just play online on PC for free thanks.

>>388093626

This isn't exactly the case anymore. Many games are released broken with intentions to be fixed in patches. It's a shit ass anti consumer practice, and it's effecting PC and consoles instead of just one.

>trails of cold steel
>ni no kuni 2
>ace combat
>dragonball fighter z
>guilty gear
>blazblue
>.hack
>rez infinite
>helldivers
>everyone went to rapture
>metal gear solid 5
>monster hunter
>naruto
>destiny
>white day

sony lost so many exclusives this gen it's kinda sad.

>>388092145
>measuring performance by teraflops
But why?
There's more to GPU than pure shader math.

>>388093751
Steam is also digital only, it will take longer to start any game on steam than just putting in a disk or updating a console on occasion

>>388093817
How do you lose 'exclusives' that are multiplats?

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>>388093769
running off your neighbors wifi?

>>388093817
>monster hunter
Nigger, the series is more is more of Nintendo at this point than Sony's.

>>388093531
>pcgamer
>quoting literal whos

It's kinda sad seeing you clinging on it like this.

>>388093939
Are you retarded? Do you not know how to check on a source? It's not pcgamer that said they want to port this shit on PC, they are citing a source. A source that they openly mention in the article.

>>388093939
Reminder that Sega in the west makes more money of PC games than consoles games.

>>388093910

>paying for internet twice

>>388093531
If you weren't poor you wouldn't have to wait for these games to "maybe" come to your platform "eventually". You could just play them now. Y0 and Kiwami run at 1080p 60fps and persona 5 is a turn based RPG so it doesn't matter. Think about it. You could have already played them and I'd go so far as to say that if you cared about these franchises in the first place you'd already have a PS4.

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>>388094004
why not? everyones being fucked in the ass by ISPs anyway.

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>>388094120
>Everyone
Amerilards*

Having all consoles, handhelds and a solid PC with multiple monitors is the ultimate setup.

>>388094120

>why not

typical console peasant

>>388094004
actually I am glad that it puts people off from psn/xbl in the same way that you had to buy your own mic on ps3

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Your list makes me wonder if there is any reason to get a PC in this day and age, when all of its games are console ports. Sure, a console game costs a bit more than a PC game, but then again the console is far cheaper than a recent PC, even if you buy some kind of office tier HP prebuilt your'e going to spend around 300-400€, when a PS4 costs 200€.

I honestly barely ever use my PC, unless I want to either emulate some older system or shitpost. I have a gaming PC from 3 or so years ago which costed me around 700€, still rocking a 560Ti, i5 3570k, and some good ram & mobo from that time. My PC is less powerful than a PS4 but I see no fucking reason in hell to upgrade, because the only games I enjoyed on this fucking clunker were low requirements games, such as Ori, Shovel Knight, Brothers, Hollow Knight, Soma, and stuff like that, on top of emulation.

Also, the few times I actually BOUGHT the games on PC I regretted it, I bought Tales of Berseria on Steam and it took them A FULL FUCKING MONTH to patch the AI so that your party members weren't completely braindead and actually fought during battles, and this bug wasn't present on the PS4 version. With PC most of the times, games are not ready to be played on release, you always have to deal with some shitty bug or glitch, it's just retarded. On PS4 I never had to deal with any issue and I own like 20 games, most of them multiplats I bought for even cheaper than they were on Steam during PSN sales or second hand. To upgrade my PC and get it to a point it surpasses the PS4 I would need to get a GPU that would cost me more than the PS4 itself, and then I'd probably have to upgrade my PSU as well and waste lots of power to run it, while the slim PS4 peaks at 86W in full load.

PC gaming is the ultimate meme.

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>>388094213
enjoy your services created/provided by amerilards. including this site.

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>>388092564
>>388092619
it takes me about 30 min to reformat my pc and install the drivers. If Im not playing games off the disk, then i probably just have them already installed in an external drive. Worst case is i need to update or redownload a game at 13mbps, so another 5 min.

PC: Expensive box for games/work/utility
Ps4: Cheap box that plays games

I doubt you would get a 200 dollar pc with the same performance as a ps4 rn

>>388094548
especially considering what miners are doing to the videocard market, as well as memory prices

>>388094542

we're talking about a system or PC that is totally fresh. In the scenario where you need to go out and buy, then the console wins out hands down. Price performance the consoles also win. You will not be able to build a PC that can outperform a PS4 for $200.

>>388094336
>B-but muh 1080p60fps

>>388092901
>>388092564
Kek, Implying you dont have to digitally download your games too, except it takes 4 times as long and they probably dont even come patched. The option of driving to the store to get a disk that you have to download enough updates to make another game isnt making anything faster.

>>388093840
You my friend need to learn about the magic of ssds

because console still gets those games first.
also when I play my normie shit I can actually play with other people. Have you tried to play a call of duty game on PC lately? Either you get a match filled with hackers, or nobody, depending on the time of day.

>>388094813

If you're downloading digitally then the game you're downloading is the latest version, this applies to all platforms. If you're buying physical, then the game will be whatever version was available at the time of printing. You don't have to wait for an update to download however, and that also applies to all platforms.

>>388094690
? How desperate are you sonybros that you need to include my time spent purchasing shit from the store? You gonna factor in my gas money while youre at it? I can build a brand new pc and shop for the parts in like an hour time total, Drivers are extremely easy to get ahold of and install, all my games are physical media or already on one of my 6 hdds that would be put into the new pc, If I'm not allowed to have the games I already own, then ok, 5-10 more minutes spent downloading, whatever.

>>388095251

We're looking at the PC v console startup as an entirely clean slate. You may have special circumstances, but we're considering the viewpoint of a consumer who has never owned a gaming platform. In this case, it's far easier to get started with a console.

Your special circumstances are nice, but they have no bearing on the topic of the thread.

>>388094993
>You don't have to wait for an update to download
>they use magic to write the data from their servers instead

Moreover, the fact that I don't have to stare at an update screen and can still play games pretty much completely negates any kind of inconvenience that may have ever been presented to me in the first place. Updating is simply a non-factor to pc gamers

>>388095510

You don't have to wait for a download to finish to play a game on PS4. This is a fact, and you being ignorant of it doesn't change anything. You can play the game as much as you want, and then let the download happen in the background whenever you finish.

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>>388094950
>He plays COD

Go play Siege or CS:GO, COD is for 13 year olds

>>388095657
and tradeskins:GO isn't?
siege is just garbage, they haven't fixed any of the lighting issues or fucking crashes on PC so I refuse to play it.

>>388095431
you guys are absolutely right. If you are poor and retarded, then consoles were literally made for you. We all knew this from the beginning, and you are the majority of the populace. Nobody is surprised, the thread was fun bait.

Woah all those sloppy seconds I already played

laughable

>>388095698

>le poor gamer meme

buddy, you sure are spiteful. What is it about PC that pushes people to be so angry?

>>388095621
>You can play the game as much as you want, and then let the download happen in the background whenever you finish

So what youre saying is, stare at the update screen because you cant play games while an update is going on. Nice dude

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>elder god tier
cs source
>platinum tier
cod mw2
>high end tier
battlefield 4
>millennial cosmetics tier
csgo, overwatch, pubg

>>388095838

Are you actually retarded or just baiting?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=can+you+play+games+while+PS4+is+downloading

>>388095887

>Modern Warfare "get the nuke to win the game" 2
>platinum tier

shit taste detected

>>388095754
You already played ace combat?

>>388095838
>retarded
you choose game while it's updating, say "launch anyway" and it launches anyway while it continues to download it in the background.

>>388092910
because i can? why is the thought of spending 300 dollars so horrifying to you faggots? i make that at work in a little over a day

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>>388094813
>except it takes 4 times as long and they probably dont even come patched
Most do and it takes 4 times faster than downloading with a console

>>388095431
>a consumer who has never owned a gaming platform. In this case, it's far easier to get started with a console.

This is wrong simply on the basis that said consumer probably already has a computer in their home that they can probably already play games on.

>>388095692
there is no lighting or crashing issues on PC, it runs like a dream

>>388092635
>fallout 4 scored more gotys than mgsv
I know the critics were garbage cashuls but this... probably played with reflex too

>>388096271
it doesn't though, go check out their forums. Just because it works on your machine doesn't mean it's flawless.
also extreme money grubbing is pretty gay.

>>388096246

Most people don't own desktops, and those that do own prebuilts that would need serious upgrades in order to play anything that isn't indie games.

>>388096290
How gut is mgsv? I never played any game of that series but picked that game up a week ago, haven't played it yet

>>388096376

because it's easy bait

>>388096376
>most weebs hate like Gust games
I've never seen such an obvious newfag like you. You do realize that before atelier sophie people actually defended gust at every turn because the games used to be good?

>>388096459

It's a good game, but clearly unfinished. Give it a play, it has easily the strongest, most free form gameplay in the entire series.

>>388096515

People still defend Gust at every turn.

>>388092145

What reason is there to go to a resteraunt in 2017? By digging in the dumpster outside, you can get:

Hamburgers
Tacos
Soups
Garlic Bread
Steak
Fish and Chips
French Fries
Apples
Salads
Hot Dogs
Pasta
Cookies

Tell me, why would you ever pay for good in a restraint when you can dig it out of the dumpster for free?

>>388096515
You still have pockets of idiots trying to defend absolutely awful games like Nights of Azure.

Kou Shibusawa really needs to liquidate that fucking studio.

>>388096619
>food analogy
>food in the dumpster being an improved version of restaurant food
You are literally retarded.

My PC cost me $240 and runs every game I run at it at 1080p 60fps with a mix of medium and high settings.

>>388096061
Yeah there are like 8 games already on consoles

Sloppy

>>388096829
mind posting a link to that build?

>>388096823

Most of the time the PC gets lazy ports that are buggier or have fucked aspect ratios. The current track record is not good.

>>388096823
Used food isn't an improvement over restaurant food
Old food isn't an improvement over restaurant food

PC is outdated stale supermarket bread, consoles are a fresh loaf hot from the oven

>>388096829

I won't believe you until you post your specs. Also, what games are you running? I doubt you're getting many games from beyond 2009 at 1080p 60fps

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>>388096904
I bought a computer off an internet cafe for $40. They said the parts were nearly all brand new.
I bought the 1050TI for $140 with price match at Best Buy which could've been cheaper anywhere else probably.
Then I bought a $30 hard drive and and $15 wireless adapter.

>>388097131
ah so you didn't actually pay $240 for a build you bought a computer then upgraded it, gotcha. cool all the same. 1050ti won't be playing things from the last 2-3 years at 108060 though. you'll be lucky to squeeze 60 out of WoW with that build.

>>388096960
PC games are superior to console games in resolution, framerate, options, modding, price, free online and a bunch of other shit. You are comparing this superiority to dumpster food. You are literally retarded.

>>388092145
Unless you're a hardcore weebfag no, there really isn't.

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>>388094336
You can't compete in sikkest gaymer rig competitions on /r/masterrace with a PS4, fag.

>>388097305

*some* PC games are superior. Many of the console games being ported have many bugs not present in the originals, and many more have no mods or modding community.

>>388097425
What do people see in setups like this

>>388097305
Console games are superior in being playable 2-3 years before PC cuck sloppy seconds.
Console games are superior in actually having games.

Enjoy your mods though because there are no fucking games and you're only option is to try and turn shoddy shit like TES into something playable. And this isn't even discussing the bad ports that REQUIRE a mod just to be playable and the devs don't care because some idiot will do their work for free.

This is superiority kek

>>388097448
Last I checked Prey on PS4 had issues out the ass but was fine one xbone and PC.

>>388097131
Cool, you bought a bunch of second hand garbage, good fucking meme m8. Meanwhile, how much does a second hand PS4 cost, like 150 bucks, tops? Fucking nigger.

>>388097425

Imagine your cat jumping inside it.

At least use a closed cabin, yah faggot.

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PC gaming was affordable.
Was.

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>>388097502
A console pleb like you wouldn't even understand :)

>>388097524

Which is why I said some. All platforms have flaws, but PC gaming of late has had the most issues.

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>>388097526
>2nd hand PC still performs better than brand new PS4
AYY LMAO

>>388097131
I do have some issues with MMOs cause of the CPU alone, but I only play ESO and only have those issues in PVP and places with TONS of players like dolmens/portals. Both things I don't actually enjoy doing anyways.
I can run SKyrim with an ENB and SOME 4k textures at like 40fps

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>>388092145
brainlets like games too

>>388097617
You can thank NVIDIA goyworks for that.

>>388097502
When everything else in your life is garbage, at least your rig can look sikkk bro

>>388097625

On games that are 2-3 years old. You won't be playing Prey on that thing, at least not in a state that's worth it.

>>388092145
The more I see people arguing over platforms the more I realise how pointless it is. Who really cares what other people play? We're on an anonymous imageboard so you shouldn't have anything to prove, also assumptions that everyone only owns 1 platform are dumb anyway.

>>388097595
I wouldn't be surprised if this Jimmy Neutron faggot makes a living as a model for Punchable Faces Weekly

>>388096459
Play it, but don't get too hooked on story

>>388096912
>Most of the time
>citation needed

>>388096960
>Used food
>Old food
I don't buy a used PS4 game to play it on my PC. My game is brand new, even if it comes out a few years later. It's like you said that my pasta is used or old, because they invented it in Italy years ago.

>>388097625
I wouldn't be surprised if games still ran better on the PS4 because of optimization and no shitty Windows 10 overhead. Besides, you spent MORE than what a new PS4 costs for your second hand nigger PC with no warranty. With that shit heap CPU and 4Gb of RAM you won't even be able to emulate, which is basically the only possible way you can justify getting a GPU nowdays, considering everything worthwile that's native to PC is 2d indie pixelshit that runs on integrated intel shit just fine.

>>388092145
>Yakuza

What?

>>388097728
Nah, I run a lot of modern games at 1080p 60fps with a mix of medium and high settings. At least it's not 900p 30fps

>>388097886

Most of the games listed in the OP had serious issues on release for PC. It's a fact that console ports to PC have been lazily done.

>>388097728
Sure you will. With a 1050ti?
>45 fps on medium settings
It'll still run better than its console counterpart at 30. Stop deluding yourself m8. The shitty smartphone tier CPU's they outfit consoles with will always hold back their actual performance since the GPU's are more than capable of doing 60fps.

>>388097952

Name some games.

>>388097907
Console games don't perform better because they're locked to 30 fps.

Is there any reason to get a PC other than running AAA meme garbage slightly better than the shitty PS4? Whoah m8 you can run fucking Prey with better textures than the PS4, big fucking deal, because good graphics make a completely and utterly shit game not shit, right?

Powerful PCs are not even justifiable for emulation, all emulatable systems are dirt cheap and on PC you'd have to deal with all kind of glitches and imperfections.

Seriously PC gaming is a complete joke, the best PC games of the past 5 years can run on fucking toasters.

>>388098193

The 60fps meme does some serious damage to the brain.

>Instigating Flame Wars

Enjoy your ban kid.

Also consoles like PS4 can actually run games, have acceptable performance (if not better than PC most of the time because nobody gives a fuck about PC) and especially for online games, active online and no cheaters at all. PC is better for certain games and functions but to fanboy over one specific platform like just PC is pathetic.

I'm sorry you're an adult man still living at home with their parents and are too poor to buy and own multiple gaming platforms because you never had a job and would rather waste your sad pathetic life shitposting online.

>>388098014
This is correct.
PC ports are often terribly optimized and you need an insane computer to get newer games running smoothly.

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>a bunch of aftertought, overpriced, unoptimized ancient PS3 ports

Glorious Pc gaming mustard race wins again.

>>388098193
PC requires a larger up front investment but works out cheaper in the long run because you have no paid online and games go on sale all the time, plus you even have the option to pirate if you roll that way.

Consoles on the other hand require a slightly lower up front investment but will add up its cost through fully priced games and paid online for an inferior gaming experience.

And who the fuck plays FPS on a console?

>>388098083
Battlefield 1, ESO, Fallout 4.
These are the newest games I own since I haven't been interested in steering away from the eSports titles I play like Dota2, League of Legends, CSGO, and Overwatch.

I know Skyrim is not "new" but I play Skyrim at 40fps with 4k texture mods and an ENB.

>>388098269
A game can be excellent even at sub 30fps and with shit graphics, see BotW. I honestly wish ALL games would be available on PC. There's NO denying BotW couldn't have been even better with 4k 60fps, infinite draw distance, better textures, more grass, etc. That could have been a game worth investing 300 bucks on a top tier GPU.


But unfortunately, as proven by this thread, all PC get is bloated AAA shit and unoptimized console ports, and the only PC games worth a shit are indie and low specs games, so what's even the point?

>>388098363
>FFXV
>PS3 port
???

>>388098125
And why is it my fault your consoles won't go past 30fps? Also, locking a game at 30fps 900p doesn't really say much about how much higher it can go, so this implication that they "could" perform better doesn't mean much.

>>388092713
It is.
>>388092954
Russian General Natalia Poklonskaya.Unfortunately she's already married.

>>388098568
Good job posting a bloated piece of shit port of an ancient mediocre game. FFXV is the quintessential PC game that proves PC gaming is a complete and utter joke. I'd rather pay $79.99 for the sequel to Ori than get FFXV for free.

>>388098731
How is it a PS3 port. I'm not letting you move the goalpost, sorry anon. You were factually wrong, now admit it.

I'm glad I didn't fall for the 8th gen meme.
I did own a PS3 and xBox 360 before I turned into PC about the same year PS4 and xBox One came out. I started with a shitty laptop and now got a budget build, so I'm slowly working my way up but the journey has been great.
I have no reason to live the 30fps life again after experiencing 60fps daily at 1080p

>>388098568

Oh and by the way FFXV started development on the PS3, and it shows. It's another fucking Ps3 relic, waxed shiny so that you PC gaming cunts get some use out of your overheating overpowered gaymer rig between a 2d pixelshit indie and memeposting on /r/masterrace about how cool your led stripes are.

>>388098829
Give me a list of games that made it worth to invest in a PC compared to a shitty PS4. Honestly the only times I felt my PC wasn't a complete waste of time and money was when I emulated the fucking Wii and PS2.

>>388098942
Well, I got into PC cause my little brother wanted to play Minecraft and I bought a laptop for myself to let him use while I was gone to school. I ended up playing it and soon after got into League of Legends.
I learned the laptop wasn't the greatest as I learned what the settings in the games meant, but I kept buying games to optimize my laptop to play them and push it to its limit.

That feeling of satisfaction I got from being able to optimize a game to run better and mod it to LOOK better as well is what made me want to get a better computer. I have a budget PC now where I'm doing the same thing I did with my laptop and haven't felt the absolute need to upgrade yet.

I guess the games worth playing for me were all the eSports games since they're always full of people, patched, refreshing, and competitive. PC gaming was definitely a great choice I made.

>>388092145
Why play any other shit, lists only weeb games, holy fuck now i just don't want to be a pc gamer anymore thanks OP