>>388077081

You forgot the mobage ones !

>>388077081
5 is too low.

>>388077081
>5
>that low

plz

That's the only really awful part of your rankings. Everything else is reasonable, other than maybe bumping X up one or two spots

>>388077081
I didn't know that FFfags were as obnoxious as Soultards and have to make retarded ratings all the time as well.

>>388077081
3 is way too low. It's an amazing game at it's time, and it still is.

People mostly put 3 at the bottom because they haven't played it. It's very unfair. 3 is good.

>>388077464
>>388077484
its necessary, because the only thing you could maybe sub for it is part 8, but I liked it more than 5

>>388077591
i played it when i first got my NDS. its good, thats it. it falls in the ranking perfectly - the others just did it better. all were good, imo

>>388077081
I haven't played any of the games but

V > VIII > VI > XI > X > VII > IV > XII > I > XIII > XIV > III > II

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>>388077081

XIV > X > XII > XIII > XV

Never played I-IX or XI so unlike all these other faggots I'm not gonna even pretend to rank them.

>>388077692
Why the fuck are you ranking them if you don't even play the games?

>>388077739
I just feel it

>>388077081
dumpster juice>any FF
There you go.

>>388077774
/thread

Go play SMT, Dragon Quest or Suikoden.

Swap 4 with 5 and it's pretty reasonable. I swear SE meme'd everyone into liking 4 with the endless ports and rehashes.

>>388077081
5>4>1>12>3>9>10>7>15>6>8>2>13

>>388077081
V>VI>IX>XI=XIV>IV>XII>VII>III>VIII>I>X=XIII=XV>II

I'm sure Xfags will give me shit on this, but whatever. X is just a prototype-XIII.

Teeeedus is still infinitely better than fucking Lightning, though.

Which should I play next?
I've beaten VI, IX, X and tried out I and II but didn't get into them
No MMO please

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>>388077081
>do you disagree with mine? why?
Because your taste is simply shit.

>>388078439
I don't know man. I'd rather fuck Lightning than Tidus.

>>388079026
>God tier
>XII
>High tier
>VIII
Weak bait.

ITT: everyone ranks, no one reads
anyways here's mine, I played them all except lightning returns

8 > 12 > 7 > 10 > 13-2 > 13 > 5 > 9 > 6 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1

Of what I've played

VII > X > XIV > XII > XI > XV > VIII > XIII

whats a good game to get into the series?
i got pretty far into 4 a while ago but my save got corrupted and made me want to sudoku

>>388079159
forgot about 15, i'd put it intbetween ff7 and ff10

>>388079215

7 if you can stomach the ugly graphics

>>388079116
>Hurr durr, this opinion differs from my own, therefore it must be bait!

12 isn't even unpopular, pulling out your bait boogeyman makes no sense.

>>388079215
15, 14, 13, and 12 in that order.

>>388079235
Someone made this and thinks this is correct

>>388079159
I read yours Anon. I disagree with it but I wouldn't think it worth spazzing out about unlike this tosser: >>388079116

>>388079235

FF5 is pure ludo.

>>388079235
>KH1 that high above KH2
This list is straight garbage.

>>388079215
Play 4, 6, 7, 9, 10, or 12 in any order.

Forget about all the others.

>>388079235
>kh1 visionary, incredible, unmissable
>kh2 outrageously bad

explain yourself

9>7>whatever>>12>>>>>>>>13&co

>>388079215
Any from 3 to 7, no remakes. They're all easy peasy noob friendly RPGs and they all have charm.

>IV>VI>I>III>VII>XV>VIII>IX>V>XI>XII>II>XIV>X>XIII

>>388077081
Makes me sad how much everyone dislikes the NES games, maybe I'm just a nostalgia fag though.

V > XII > III > XI > I > VI > VIII > IV > X > II > XIII > IX > VII > XV > XIV

>>388079395
>Legitimately leaving the best ones out

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>>388079474

>no remakes
>no FF3 PSP or FF4 DS

So The Zodiac Age made Squeenix a good buck, correct? Do you think they'll go for the easy money and release the Lightning Saga on PS4 in one neat package? I really, really would like to have that.

>>388079608
FF3 remake is absolute trash compared to the original and the art style is total grand puke

>>388077081
8 is too high and 5 is too low. I agree with 6 and 9 being at the top, though.

>FF will never be good again

How do you bros live knowing this? What series have replaced FF for you?

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>>388077081
7 > 9 > 15 > 10 > 8 > 6 > 4 > 14 > 5 > 12 > 13 > 11 > 1 > 3 > 2

>>388079726
FF has been terrible pretty much since VII

>>388079771
This, IX was a glimmer of hope but X and XII washed all that away.

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>tfw no new Crystal Chronicles that's just like the original
>tfw no Tictacs Advance with a billion new jobs
IT'S NOT FAIR!

>>388079656
Why do you say that? I think the art is crap, but the remake itself seems decent. Having a lot of viable end game classes is preferrable to ninjas and sages to me.

>>388079821
IX is a very, very bad game and XII is the only good FF since VI...
IX has the worst, dumbest characters, the most horrible series and most disgusting art-style in the series, not to mention the loading times at the start and end of encounters, the horrible VII-style perspective, it's pure shit.

>>388079726
I like every game in the main series to varying degrees to be honest. Yes, including 13 and 15.

>>388079823
Regular tactics instead please, wasn't a big advance fan.

>>388077724
I'd change that to XIII = XV

VII to IX are incredible. VI, X, XII, Tactics are great. X-2, XIII trilogy, V are good games, nothing that stands out but they have interesting mechanics. XIV and XI are fun for some time. Everything before V is plain shit. XV is just whole another game. I'd eat shit from AIDS ridden chimpanzee if that could erase all memories of this piece of shit from my mind.

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>>388077081
XIV is the best tbqh famalamalam

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>>388079943
>I'd eat shit from AIDS ridden chimpanzee if that could erase all memories of this piece of shit from my mind.
A thousand times this.

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>>388079964
>looks like trash
>plays like trash
>one of the worst stories in the series
>ruined XI and its legacy

>>388079870
Turning decently paced 12-monster fights into slow paced 3 monster fights is NOT preferable to me. When you change a game to play so differently you can't even call it the same game anymore.

>>388079913
9 is fantastic.

>>388080124
maybe if it was your first FF, it's nothing like the older games so I don't know why this became a meme

>>388079553
No, it is the children who are wrong.

>>388079995
>"HEY IGNIS, INSTRUCTIONS!"
>"EVERYONE SPAZ OUT AND NEVER HIT ANYTHING!"
Every time.

>>388080103
I think they balanced it our fairly well with the multiple actions shit.

>>388080159
I started with FF1 on the NES. I didn't say I like it because it's like the old ones.

>all these people with V at or near the top

/V/ does sometimes have truly good taste in Vidya

>>388080230
well then you just have shit taste, enjoy your dumb antho furry garbage

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>>388080190
>DUDE THE GAME PLAYS ITSELF, JUST MAKE A MOVIE LMAO
>Fail the timing and positioning
>DUDE MY CHARACTERS AREN'T HITTING THE ENEMIES

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>>388080190
They made the combat in XV bad on purpose.

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>>388080041

>>388080282
Are you okay?

>>388080282
Good talk shithead. I'm really tempted to shit on 6 just to piss you off but I won't because it's a good game.

>>388077739
you can still rank them based on how aesthetic the roman numerals are, duh

>>388080171
It's tempting to take that stance. Most people on this board don't even seem to like the SNES games. They just piss and moan about whether 7 or 10 was better.

5 >8 >7 >12 >6 >2 (i genuinely like it) > 9 > 1 > 3 > 4
despite the ordering i think they're all pretty good and close to being on par with each other, the only final fantasy game i've played that i'd say is outright bad is 4. bland and boring as fuck, only good thing about it is the music

>>388080526
Um X?

WHICH ONE HAS THE BEST STORY?

>>388080526
I enjoy 4, both on its own merits and for basically making jrpgs what they are today.

The only good thing about VIII is it's bangin' soundtrack.

>>388080301
What's wrong with this?

>>388080603
My favorite obviously.

>>388080410
Then V shouldn't be on top. The best numeral is either II, IV, or VI.

>>388080690
What's wrong with making enemy attack patterns sporadic and random rather than something that the player can accordingly plan and react to?

If you don't see what's wrong with that then I don't know what to tell you.

>>388080334
you can shit on VI all you want, it's not even in my top 5

>>388080828
Not him and it would be shitty in a straight up action game. But unavoidable damage has always been a FF thing. This isn't nearly as bad as getting ambushed by wizards that cast instant death on your whole party in the ice cave.

>>388080909
Yeah I don't really care man, I recognize your posting style and I've never seen anything intelligent come out of you.

>>388080690

It's bad because the game's combat is being compromised for realism. That kind of excuse might work for an immersive sim with autistic levels of detail, but FF XV is a basic open world JRPG.

Besides, Tabata is a hack and has lied before to excuse the game's faults, so I really doubt his claims that the shitty design was totally intentional.

>>388080442
I know it sounded sarcastic because of the obvious source of the quote but I meant it seriously. The NES/Famicom games are good and I'd blame age as the reason most posters don't get that.

7 > 12 > 6 > 5 > 4 > 11 > 8 > 3 > 1 > 14 > 15

I like them all though, even 15. I'd love Matsuno to come back to direct 16 or some other SE game.

5 > 6 = 9 = 10 > 4 > 10-2 > 1 > 7 > 3 > 8 > 2 > shit > 11 = 12 = 13 = 13-2 = 13-3 = 14 = 15

>>388080980
well good job because I hadn't posted on /v/ in like 5 years

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Hopes? I just want it to be high-fantasy with a sizeable party filled with unique and layered characters. Preferably not all humans.

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>>388077081
I agree more or less. I'm to an age where 6, 7, and 9 are my clear winners but I don't really see one all that above the other. They're all good games though. For the most part.

not bad taste OP, here is mine

4 > 12 > 6 > 7 > 10 > 5 > 1 > 3 > 15 > 8 > 2 >>>>>>>>>> 13

>>388081021
I saw a dude like a week ago who didn't use any capital letters and called ff9 word for word "furry anthro garbage" so either you're lying (my theory) or you have a twin on here.

5 > 6 > 7 > 10 > 15 > 9 > 4 > 1 > 13 > 10-2 >

I think that 5 and 6 are the only truly great games here, everything else ranges from okay to bad.

>>388080939
>straight up action game.
XV is an action game though it's not something like NGB but having enemy moves not being telegraphed to some degree is horrible game design. Having players take damage or die at no fault of their own is also horrible game design, if a player can't gauge what an enemy is going to do and is punished for that that is horrible game design.

Bloodborne is an action RPG and yet I never felt there were any times where I couldn't gauge what an enemy was going to do because each encounter was well designed, I cannot say the same for XV because everything regarding the combat is fucking dreadful.

>>388080985
I'm replaying 1 as I type this, albeit the origins version. Basically the same thing but with some bug fixes. 2 will be next I think, then 3 then 4. We'll see how far I make it before getting bored.

>>388080985
The GBA remakes hold up perfectly well especially compared to the PSP/DS/IOS abortions.

>>388081031
hand drawn sprites and turn based battles with a job system and no revolving door of characters, please.
could be set in Ivalice.

turn base combat is shit, the only decent ff game is xv, even if is not that great at least it's not boring

>>388081096
It was a common opinion here before the pleb invasion of 2008-2009

>>388081147
I guess I just have different expectations for things. My GOTY is Nioh and if it had unreactable attacks I'd be really irritated, but in final fantasy it doesn't really bother me. I dunno, maybe I need higher expectations.

>>388081167
I don't care for the GBA versions of 1 and 2. They remove magic charges from 1 and they make both 1 and two much easier.

>>388081219
Why would you not expect enemies to properly telegraph moves in an action game, Final Fantasy or not? It's just flat out bad game design when the player is being punished at no fault of their own.

>>388077081
6>7>4>the rest!>15>13

>>388081215
Yeah I don't really give a shit. 9 is a great game, it's Sakaguchi's favourite, it's upper tier to me, in fact 10 coming after such a great game made it worse to me than it would have been otherwise.

>>388081219
It helps that FFXV is a lot less punishing when you get hit. Unless you're specifically playing a level 1 challenge, you can pretty easily regain the upper hand compared to Nioh.

>>388081168
There are only four turn based Final Fantasy games though.

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V > VII > III > XIV > VI > XII > IX > XIII > IV > X > VIII > I > II

I missed the XI boat

>>388081284
I guess I just didn't see that many unreactable attacks. I play monhun and so I've probably built up a tolerance for bullshit over the years.

>>388081319
When I see this I assume you've only played 6,7 and 4.

>>388077502
but this is probably one of the oldest traditions

>>388081360

Hyne is so fucking cool.

>>388081320
Sakaguchi has shit taste.

>>388081167
I highly doubt Square would make FFXVI a traditional RPG with jobs because of Bravely Default already being that.

>>388081363
Nah, I'm a big fan of the series, it's just not worth splitting hairs between the kinda middling titles, like IX and XII

>>388081360
I was thinking about getting an Amano illustration tattoo.

>>388081434
I secretly resent Bravely Default for upstaging FFV on the 3DS... probably

>>388077081
It's a mix between replayability and overlall enjoyment
VI>I>V>XII>III>II>VIII>VII>XV>XIII>X>IX>IV

>>388081498
A FFV remake with as much effort as the FFIV one would have been fantastic. I still need to get around to playing Bravely Default though.

>>388081434
Bravely Default sucks, it's like what a class of hipster would make if they were tasked with making and old school JRPG and missed all the shit that made those games good.

>>388081425
Yeah, he probably just made the most money off IX for the least amount of work, hence favorite. Good character arcs, terrible plotline.

>>388081360
Couldn't help but think of the Matador fight when I first fought this nigga. Fuck.

>>388081596
Just need to look at what he's been doing since then to realize he's a lazy senile crackpot.
He's making shitty mobage now.

>>388081338
atb system is even worst than turn base combat, it's a shame because I really liked the story of the ff that I played.

>>388081753
I've never seen a good reason for this opinion on /v/,

>>388077081
6 is the best. anyone who disagrees is simply a child.

>>388081654
Honestly I don't totally blame him, due to the JRPG slump of the last ~20 years. Technology is only just beginning to allow PS1-tier JRPGs in HD.

>>388081817
1 is the best. Anyone who disagrees is simply a child.

>>388081887
Dragon Warrior I is the best. Anyone who disagrees is simply a child.

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>>388081839
The PS1 JRPG were mostly all trash.

>>388081817
It is the best, just that it's also the easiest, by far!

>>388081817
It gets good but replaying it is a fucking chore until around the imperial city escape

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LRXIII > VI > V > VII > III > XIII-2 > X-2 > II > BCVII > I > The point, where I start to dislike them more than like them > IV > IX > X > XII > DoCVII > CCVII > XIII > VIII

>>388080603

It's VI. Its scale, characters (including nearly all NPCs), themes, twists, setting, atmosphere and gameplay-story integration make the story wonderful, cohesive and exciting. Too bad I feel that 90% of the story has been cut off from the game due to hardware limitations leaving many leaps you need to bridge yourself. I like this, but I do dream of someday actually knowing the backgrounds of many characters and the full extend of events. It is masterful implication though and doesn't let the gameplay get bogged down on the story in its present form. It is perfect as it is.

The great runner-ups are VII, IX (Comes together at the ending parts, when it acquires an identity), XIII-2, V and III (Only the original version, since the protagonists being sibling children is absolutely vital to sell the thinness of the plot as how they perceive it, while bringing the drama from the tragedy of the threat of losing innocence and everything else being big and scary, but also adventurous.)

>>388081938
Jokes aside I never liked the DQ series as much.

>>388081939
You don't actually believe this.

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>>388081976
Easiest is VIII, you can spend twenty minutes playing cards and then one shot everything for the rest of the game.

>>388081939
Bait, but OK. More classic and cult-classic RPGs released on PS1 than the following 20 years combined

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>>388082050
>implying VI, VII and IX are the best anything

Why does everyone hate II so much?

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>>388082071
Wrong.

>>388081802
action base combat is just more fun, atb was acceptable at the time beacase they couldn't much more with the technology available

>>388082140
Because it is unbalanced garbage. Games of its ilk didn't get any good until Romancing SaGa

>>388082140
Its leveling system is fucking broken.

>>388082161
ATB being worse than turn based I mean. I enjoy both turn based and action based because I'm not a pleb.

>>388082157
>this one example will prove you wrong!

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>>388082161
>Was expecting the Ardyn fight to on par with the Gehrman fight
>Instead get a shitty Dragonball ripoff of holding down O

>>388082053
>>388082071
DQ VII is the worst DQ, Legend of Dragoon is trash, the PS1 FF are the worst of the series, Arc the Lad is an horrible series, Grandia is objectively awful, BoF III is inferior to I&II, etc...
I guess Koudelka is alright but really, the PS1 has so little good RPG it's actually laughable, at least the gameboy had pokemon.

>>388082028
Yeah but I don't remember ever replaying a mainline FF ever. Unless a fuckton of years have already gone by, that is.

>>388082140
lvl up system is pretty weird.
key word system is pretty shit

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>>388082248
>I-i-it's just one guys, I swear!

>>388081817
angry FFsevenyearolds incoming

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>>388077771

>>388082140
The game punishes you for playing normally. For example, wearing heavy armor. The game is actually pretty decent until the magician's tower with those fucking imps that confuse you because you have low evasion from wearing armor.

>>388082267
kek

>>388082140
I don't hate it, but when I play it I often get the urge to just play a SaGa game instead.

>>388082267
BoF 3 and 4 are better than 1 about tied with 2. The PS1 FFs are pretty good, I don't like DQ in general. You're missing:
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile
SaGa Frontier 1 and 2
Legend of Mana
Xenogears
and more that I can't think of off the top of my head.

>>388082050
i like this guy. can we talk, in private? have aim? or something?

>>388082232
at least there is a bit of strategy in turn base combat

>>388082267
Nigga can't even pretend Suikoden is shit lmao, some shit you just can't front with

Holla at Front Mission 3, best PS1 JRPG

>>388082492
The Nintendude Mana games were superior, and Romancing SaGa I-III are superior to the SaGa Frontier games, Xenogears is overrated and turns to absolute crap about 1/3 in.

>>388082492
What's Vagrant Story like? I've had it sitting on my shelf for a year but never got around to it.

>>388082050
I want to like you so I'll ignore the fact that you mentioned Lightning Returns as superior to 6.

>>388082653
basically it looks dated as fuck and plays like shit, you spend 3/4 of your time in menus and it's set in the boring ass generic setting Square cooked up for its shitty ass games.

>>388082605
Seiken Densetsu 3 is good, but I think Legend of Mana is equal or better. Both trump Secret.

Romancing SaGa remake is great, but the original lacks what makes the series great. 2 and 3 are solid, but so is Frontier 1 and 2. Gears has a rough second disc.

>>388082653
You get thrown into a dungeon and have an interesting crafting and combat system and you explore.

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>>388082267
>I guess Koudelka is alright but really, the PS1 has so little good RPG it's actually laughable, at least the gameboy had pokemon.

Really? Out of all the games you shat on you think Koudelka, game that inherits the worst aspects of JRPG and survival horror, is alright? Confirmed shit taste, you can escort yourself out.

>>388082713
So it's shit pretty much?

>>388082050
>Only the original version, since the protagonists being sibling children is absolutely vital to sell the thinness of the plot as how they perceive it, while bringing the drama from the tragedy of the threat of losing innocence and everything else being big and scary, but also adventurous.
what

>>388082760
Dunno, I think he's high. The two versions of 3 have very few significant plot changes.

>>388082746
I hated it, but it has an enduring circlejerk.

>>388082725
and it still manages to be miles above the square games of the era

>>388082723
I dislike the structure of the frontier games

ff were good at the time but now the have to change to appeale to the modern gamers, if I was in them I would just copy xenoblade combat system, so you can have fast action combat and also similar to atb

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>>388082746
It's just not a JRPG people expected from Square at the time .

>>388082825
They both have different structures though. 1 is more like romancing saga 3 and 2 is more like romancing saga 2.

>>388082267
I hate myself so I'll answer.

>DQ VII is the worst DQ
DQII
>Legend of Dragoon is trash
Aside from voice acting it's tite
>the PS1 FF are the worst of the series
Worse than X/XI/XII? Even Tactics?
>Arc the Lad is an horrible series
Someone sucked at it
>Grandia is objectively awful
Fun party, innovative battle system
>BoF III is inferior to I&II
The first half is better than all the later BOFs
>the PS1 has so little good RPG it's actually laughable
Vagrant Story
Kartia
Wild Arms
Vandal Hearts
Xenogears
Brave Fencer Musashi
Front Mission 3
Suikoden I
Suikoden II
Valkyrie Profile
Legend of Legaia
Star Ocean 2
Parasite Eve
Alundra
Persona 2
SaGa Frontier
Jade Cocoon
Vanguard Bandits

>>388082746
I would look into it on your own. The dude just shitposted on you.

Final Fantasy VI vs Romancing SaGa 3

6 >= 5 > 10 > 14 > 3 > 12(zodiac) > 1 > 4 >>>>>>>>>>>> 2
havent played anything else
fuck 2

>>388082918
You're a shallow person.
The only good games on your list are SaGa frontier, which I already addressed, and Jade Cocoon which is pretty much just good.

>>388082918
>Jade Cocoon

From what I remember this one has slow ass combat the likes of FF9 because disk-read is a bitch. I still liked it, though. Great soundtrack and this mystical tribal vibe that was utterly lost in the sequel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svq029gWi0g

>>388083097
Name 10 good games. Most of the games he named are really solid and are considered classics by many rpg fans.

>>388083207
Romancing SaGa
Romancing SaGa II
Romancing SaGa III
Shin Megami Tensei II
Dragon Quest V
Dragon Quest VI
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy XII
Digimon World 3

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>>388083207
Final Fantasy XV

V > III > IV > X > VI > VII > I > IX

I only dislike IX because it's slow as molasses, it's a game I want to like but I can't. Haven't played the other mainline titles except VIII and II which I both couldn't get into at all and never pass the starting hours. Want to try XII soon, maybe XV when it's actually finished, and I have a copy of XIII I bought out of a clearance rack five years ago I never actually played.

>>388083339
Digimon world 3? Are you fucking kidding me. It's not even as good as one. Also unless you're talking minstrels song SaGa 1 is nothing to write home about.

>>388083471
Digimon World 3 is the best of the three and Romancing SaGa is good which puts it miles above 99% of PS1 JRPG

>>388081817
Or they noticed how it has some of the worst gameplay in the series.

>>388083384
sod off he wasn't asking you

>>388083582
Alright. Can you answer me honestly all shitposting aside, how many of the games in that guys list have you actually played. I've heard very little criticism for Valkyrie Profile in my life.

>>388077081
9>6>8>5>10>7>1>2>>>>>4=13=12

4 is burning garbage.

>>388083682
I've played almost all of them then and replayed them if they were re-released on the PSP, and Valkyrie Profile is just a shallow repetitive game.

>>388083774
I see. I feel like you must have a very specific definition of shallow. Because Valkyrie profile definitely has more depth than the DQ games you listed. The appeal of DQ is the simplicity for many. Also I love FF12 but the combat is repetitive as fuck.

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>>388082267

>the PS1 FF are the worst of the series
How the fuck do you get opinions this bad?

>>388082267
This post embodies shit taste, I've never seen anything like it.

>>388083920
Every DQ is a different experience, VP is extremely repetitive, DQ is simple but not shallow, literally the opposite of VP, or a lot of PS1 JRPG for that matter that shove a shitload of stuff into your face that ends up no mattering at all.

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5 > 1 > 10-2 > 4 > 6 > 12 >10 > 2 > 7 > 3 > 8 > 9 15 > 13*

>>388078439
>X is just a prototype-XIII.

Why exactly? X has one of the best battle systems in FF

>>388084126
this list is helter skelter but at least v is on top

>>388084112
Ok, we're clearly not going to agree on just about anything. Take it easy.

>>388084289
never

>>388084187
I prefer the 13 system to 10. 10 has good ideas and awful execution. Not him by the way because I think Tidus manages to be even worse than lightning.

>>388084187
Rock paper scissors is something you do on the playground when you're in kindergarten not in a JRPG.

5>4>7>13>6>12>10>9>8>1>2

I think it's genuinely impossible to rank these games on any kind of objective scale though.

>>388084392
some people do those tiers or whatever

>>388084392
Yeah, they all do different things well.

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why are these games so spooky

>>388084853
Depends on the game, some have a darker tone for sure

>>388084126

You can usually tell what people are into when they make these rankings, but this is just all over the place.

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>>388082672

Just Guard and Just Attack is a cheat code to my heart. The game has exciting battles, great customization, atmosphere and freedom. There are other incidental things beyond them I like such as the scenario and intent towards humor, but those are the main reasons. Since I'm having the time of my life playing the game, the dismal parts, for example the story, characters and trains running on thin air, just make me laugh instead. You feel like a force of nature in this game. Square-Enix had an idea they thought would be fun, were right and then didn't have budget or development time to screw it up.

>>388082760
>>388082818

In the original the siblings are seemingly younger (I like to think they're six.) and have been together their childhoods making them family and through that bond they make it through the game and the friendships along the way. It makes things like the sleepover make more sense and increases the impact of scenes such as being forced to murder Dorga and Unne. Everything is just more tragic or fun.

>>388085481
I can't find a single piece of information confiming the age of the original onion knights. In fact I'm struggling to even find information that confirms them to be siblings and I don't remember seeing any dialogue like that in game.

Is this your headcanon or did I miss something?

T > 6 > 7 > 12 > 4 > 9 > 5, 8 > 3, 10 > 1, 13 > 2

9 could be higher, but goddamn, I tried to play it a couple years ago and it's just extremely slow in every aspect (especially, but not only, battle transitions)

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>>388085896

I meant they're siblings in the sense that Topapa has adopted them and therefore they have spent their childhood together unlike the 3D remake ones. Now it is of course possible that they have been adopted a day before the adventure, but that's just contrived. They don't have an official age, but because of how the Onion Kids sprites look and the way they act, such as "Let's sleep in the princess' bed!" (One of the best lines in the franchise) and then wallowing on the bed makes me think that they're really young. But yes, it's headcanon.

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>God of all gods tier:
5

>God who challenges the position of God of all gods tier:
6

>God tier:
10
7

>Excellent tier:
12
1 (PSP)

>Good tier:
10-2
8
9
3
4

>Garbage tier:
13
2

>>388088025
The Dissidia onion kid doesn't look anywhere near 6 and dissidia is canon. I'd put him around mid teens honestly.

>>388088087
Why specifically psp ff1? I prefer the NES or origins versions. I disagree with a bunch of your list but that's what I've chosen to single out.

>>388077739
same reason why people rank them without playing the mmos

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>>388088215

I hold the Dissidia series, and well all remakes, as retcon city, so I consider them optionally canon. With Dissidia in particular I have special problems, mostly concerning the characters. The Amano designs feel alien to me too. That being said, while I don't like the Onion Knight quite as much, he's still really cool and yes I too would say he is in his teens.

It's funny and sad how many people just don't even bother to rank XV.

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>>388088087
>10
>god-tier

>>388088898
I don't think Dissidia really retcons that much outside of FF1.

>>388088903
Most people on here probably haven't played it to be honest. Check back after the pc release. I think the hate is a bit blown out of proportion personally.

>>388077081
Kingdom Hearts 3 >

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>>388088265

I can understand you liking NES and Origins because of the original MP counter system. However, PSP version is great because it expands the world a lot with the extra dungeons, and the bosses from the other games make it seem like some sort of multiverse game. Also the graphics are very nice.

>>388089042

I don't get why current /v/ has such a hate boner for PS2 games.

>>388090315
I plan to beat the bonus content at some point, but I know that the stickler in me is going to spend the whole game bitching about changes. Maybe if I just think of it as a totally different game.

>>388077081
Played most of them so,

VI>X>>Tactics>>>>>VII>IX>IV>V>X2>XII>>>>>>VIII>>>>>XV>>>>>>XIII

>>388091502
also i would like to add FFT Advance is the shittiest of all of them.

>>388088087
your list is perfect.

i would change 5 and 6 positions but that can be said as personal preference.

also you forgot XV at the lowest tier

XII>VI>XIII>VIII>X>V>IV>VII>IX>XV

VI > IV > V > X2 > IX > VII = X >XIILR = I > III = XII = XIII-2 > XIII = II = VIII >>>>>> XV

>>388077081
objectively
VI=IX=XII>VII=X>IV>V=VIII>III>XIII>I=II

subjectively
VII>=IX>=XII>X>IV ds>VIII>VI>who cares

XV was HUUUGE disappointment, don't even consider it to be FF game.

Have you guys actually played the 13 trilogy or are you just memeing? This game is fucking great. Revolutionary, even

>>388092371
That's how I feel about X. The airship is a menu and everything is just a linear line. I don't know what this is but it's certainly not final fantasy.

>>388092493
I've played all 3 and I genuinely enjoy them. But mostly for the battle systems.

>>388092493
I have.

XIII and XIII-2 on the 360
XIII and LR on the PS3

>>388092586
Yeah the story is shit but it has possibly the best combat. The only thing I don't like is that you can't change positioning. It's random if your character steps into a AoE attack

>>388092493
The XIII series has been a pure joy. It's broken so many of the boring ass trends this series has been riding since it existed and Lightning Returns in particular is easily one of the most unique RPGs on the market with an absolutely brilliant battle system with actual depth.

>>388092746
I grew up playing Chrono Trigger that had the same shit, so it doesn't really bother me.

>>388092801
People love to say the game plays itself, but it's probably the final fantasy that killed me most since the NES games. Plus it's nice that buffs debffs and status is so useful.

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>>388077081
6=7=9>4=5>10>8>12>3>1>13>15>2

>>388092493
>game is called final FANTASY
>main character has no ass
I want to like lightning so much but she's basically a skinny man

>>388077081
7 > 9 > 6 > 10 > 8
Rest are irrelevant.

>>388092518
well, it did have the 3 most important things for any good FF:

interesting/unique story/characters
turn based battle system
god tier soundtrack

we can also argue what is the point (in terms of gameplay) of world map in older games except for doing random battles and in what beneficial way do they contribute to overall enjoyment of the story. ff x still had secrets, optional bosses, fun and addictive sphere grid system, battle arena and tons of content overall.

>>388093150
I don't think the story or characters were very good. The setting was good, but it wasn't used as well as it could have been.

The battle system is alright, some major flaws though.

I find the soundtrack one of the weaker ones in the series personally.

The sphere grid was the illusion of choice for 99% of the game. Another example of a good concept executed poorly.

>>388092801
The big problems with XIII are pacing and that the battle system is broken with only 2 characters and XIII-2 fixes those. LR has great combat and is overall a good game.

All three of them suffer from Lightning wank though, to the point that she almost feels like an OC Donut Steel put into someone else's story. I mean the LR battle theme even has lyrics that jill off Lightning.

>>388093287
>The sphere grid was the illusion of choice for 99% of the game. Another example of a good concept executed poorly.

I do agree there, same thing happened with XII where every character could be and do everything in the end so you'd end up with 4 physical attacker. they did fix it with izjs and job boards and same could be done to sphere grid in X,

12 > 6 > 7 > 5 > 9 > 10 > 4 > 15 > 3 > 8 > 13 > 1 > 2

>>388093464
Not just that but the grid is actually basically just a straight line. If it had a ton of branching paths I'd like it more.

>Undisputed Champion
Tactics
>Complete Package tier
IV, V, VI, VII, X, XI, Lightning Returns, Dissidia 012
>Falls just short tier
XIV, IX, 1, XIII-2, VIII
>Incomplete but fun tier
XIII
>Incomplete mess tier
XV
>Never played tier
2/3

>>388079026
2/10

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>>388091858

I sometimes change 5 and 6's positions. They're both too good.

>also you forgot XV at the lowest tier
Haven't played that yet, but I'll try and get to it.

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>God tier:
Bartz
Squall
Onion Knight

>Excellent tier:
Cloud
Warrior of Light
HA HA HA

>Good tier:
Lightning
Terra
Zidane

>Bland tier:
Cecil
Firion
Vaan

VI > IX > XII > VII > Tactics > XV > V > X > IV >XIII - 2 > X -2> LRXIII > XIII > VIII > III > I > II


Didn't find that too difficult. People shit on XV and XII a load here, but they are legit the best games since IX.

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Caius is objectively the best antagonist of the series.

>>388096796
He was too good for his own game, overall Caius, Noel and Yeul were the most interesting part of the 13 trilogy imo. The timeline stuff and hte hunter tribe was well done