Holy fuck this is good Wish it was longer, felt like I blew right

Read about Van Buran and weep.

>>388070572
Fallout 2 is a lot like 1 but longer. Not as well made in some aspects, but if you want more you'll probably love it.

The overall playtime really depends on how much and where you explore, and how quickly you stumble upon some of the story objectives. It's easy to waste weeks in OG Fallout games.

>>388070697
most of the good shit from that made it into nv
a new isometric game would be neat tho

Is there a patch to fix the combat freezing bug in Fallout 2 windowed mode? (I can't play on full screen, video doesn't display for some reason. Maybe a patch for that would be useful too.)

>>388070572
I was retarded the first time I played fallout, and probably still am, plus I didn't use guides or anything.
On my first playthrough I never discovered you could enter buildings with closed doors in cities, so I missed out on ALL indoor shops and a bunch of helpful things and events that I discovered existed on my second playthrough. I got all of my items from random encounters and scavenging. I bought the water to get bonus days, somehow managed to get the power armor and beat the mutant guy with only a couple of days left.
Every encounter was critical because I had extremely limited stimpaks and ammo, so I played through a retardedly hard and involuntarily imposed challenge. It was the most intense RPG experience I have had, and every playthrough after that one felt dissapointing.

10/10 would recommend.

I wish the game gave you more ways to find the water chip other than going to Necropolis

I started a playthrough the other day and got really into it trying to follow clues and ended up in the Glow before I realized that I already knew where to go and was only wasting time. Then I went full speedrun mode for some reason.

Shitsux.

>>388074561
>I never discovered you could enter buildings with closed doors in cities
kek
Damn that must have been harsh.
>It was the most intense RPG experience I have had, and every playthrough after that one felt dissapointing.
You could play as a low INT character maybe it'll make you relive that. And it might be more immersive for you.

i hate how you have to kill the master in like 100 days or oops everyone fucking dies in the end
just makes a short game even shorter

>>388074769
Yeah, yeah I deserve that. I have never dun goofd like this in any other game. I played through it 3 more times, edgy run, woman character run and 0 (or as low as it gets, I don't remember) int run. That first one was the best, I think it best captured the tone and feel the game is going after.

>>388074823
I like the idea of a time limit on paper. It avoids the problem of having a story that requires urgency but have the player run around doing menial bullshit side content.

It's the reason why the first playthrough works so well. You're scrambling to find where to go and get dragged into all kinds of trouble before you eventually go to the right place. It ties the world together like that.

Of course, it's obnoxious once you know what you're doing, which is why I don't replay Fallout 1 as much as I do Fallout 2.

>>388074769
>make it more intensive for you
Jesus was that a subtle diss?

>>388074724
>I wish the game gave you more ways to find the water chip
You can find hundreds of them in Vault 8 FWIW.

>>388075018
>subtle

>>388075038
That's in Fallout 2. It's a big joke about Fallout 1's mcguffin.

It feels like geckos were added in 2 just for the G.E.C.K jokes.

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>tfw Bob's Used Car Shop
The Red Ryder LE is the best weapon in the game and you cannot convince me otherwise. Fuck Alien Blaster.

>>388075367
>>388075146
Fallout 2 overall is pretty silly. Not a bad thing.

>>388071514
You only hear about the stuff that was supposed to have been in Van Buren though. Do they even mention anything about Colorado? I don't remember.

I wish someone could get the rights to Van Buren and finish it just as a love letter to the fans. It was something like 90% completed before they cancelled it.

>>388070572
Just wanted to pop in and say I've always felt that F1's length was perfect for the amount of replayability. Its not too long to get burned out on, I honestly suggest replaying it later on you might appreciate its playtime even more. Fallout 2 is a good game, but it feels really bloated compared to how succinct the first one was.

>>388071514
>good
>nv
pick one

>>388077023
you're right anon it's great

>>388070572
im in the super mutant base. holy shit, fuck that mutant leader, keeps using stimpacks and head/Eye shoot barely do no damage with sniper rifle and14mm. got 200 in guns too.

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>play F1
>unarmed is great
>play F2 with Restoration Project
>unarmed is utter shit because mod author deliberately and quietly sabotaged it
Why is this allowed?

>>388077384
he was pretty easy for me. but i lucked out on getting the bb gun from the car mart encounter.

>>388077625
i should have used points on engery weapons instead of lockpicking. what a useless skill.

>>388074823
>>388075005
wait, i thought you just needed to destroy the mutant base and than you would be free to do whatever you wanted.

>>388078034
>With version 1.1 of the game, the time limit for the mutant attack on Vault 13 is nearly eliminated (to a maximum of thirteen in-game years), allowing players to explore the game world at their leisure.
Only 150 (250) days to find a chip, then you can fuck around as much as you like.

>>388074823
IIUC, you have 150 days to return the water chip. You can add 100 days with a quest.
And then you have 500 days to kill the master and blow up the military base. And they changed that to 13 years in version 1.1.

>>388078034
>>388078252
I'm talking about the ending. If Master is alive for a long time certain towns are said to be invaded by mutants in the end slides.

>>388078252
>>388078294
>13 years

oh cool. that should be enough time to explore everything

>>388078342
Only Necropolis IIRC. And it's canon for it.

>>388078342
Oh OK. Yeah not sure if they changed that in 1.1.

>>388071514
Isometric games are on the comback these days, maybe we won't get a new full RPG but I could totally see beth trying to sell "Fallout Tactics 2"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNsJI_fDoR8&t=632s
Is there a better feeling than getting the highwayman fix'd ?

>>388078717
Getting it upgraded for sexual favors.

>>388070572
I wish we'd get a Shadowrun Returns level sequel/remaster. I played them through a few years back and man, it was fun, but ROUGH.

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>>388078796
>if you do it several times in a row, upgrader's head will explode.

>>388078595
They didn't change the way the ends to the town are handled in the ending, in my last play through I had both Necropolis and The Hub over ran by mutants according to my ending slides. Game play wise they don't affect shit though, I could've gone to Necropolis or The Hub right before I killed The Master and they would've been fine.

>>388079118
Install FIXT. You can turn invasions off.

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>started Fallout 1 playthrough years ago
>PC died, last thing I remember was that I got past necropolis and seduced some super mutant
>get brand new vidya PC, start new playthrough
>10 strength, 10 luck, 7 endurance, 8 agility, 1 intelligence, 1 perception, 3 charisma, jinxed and bloody mess traits

Everyone said a low INT playthrough would be fun and lolxdsohilarious, so far every NPC has just been telling me to fuck off.

Also, is it worth getting powered armor to punch everything even harder?

Only way I found to get it last playthrough was repairing the suit in the BOS bunker, any other ways to get it, does it need training?

>>388077459
How'd he ruin it?

>>388077459
Why did anybody think restoring the content that got cut was a good idea anyway? Most of it wasn't even finished and some of it like the EPA didn't meet Fallout 2's already dubious standards. And the Hubologists and talking deathclaws did.

The more I play of the RP the lower my opinion of it goes.

>>388079356
Getting it fix is easy, just sneak and steal the part, also higther int gives you more skill points and not having to fight the master is pretty sweet too.

No training is required.

>>388079356
>Everyone said a low INT playthrough would be fun and lolxdsohilarious
It is, but if you want to actually get and do quests, you have to overdose on mentats from time to time so you can speak eloquently.

>>388079356

>Everyone said a low INT playthrough would be fun and lolxdsohilarious, so far every NPC has just been telling me to fuck off.
Fallout one's retard playthrough is of varying quality. Most of the time people tell you to fuck off, but there's some Gems. You should put it on the backburner until you've done a regular play through though, it's not really fun to blindly stumble around until you get lucky.

>Also, is it worth getting powered armor to punch everything even harder?
Armor in the orginal Fallout's is a very linear thing. You find better armor you wear it. There's a tiny bit of room in the mid game, where great armor costs you some agility, but it's almost always the best to just wear whatever sounds best. So the answer is yes.

>blahblahblah
You'll get it when the time is right. Power armor in the original games is some serious shit. It basically trivializes anything that's not the final areas. Take my word on this, if you want any challenge at all you'll just be happy when you get it. If you go looking for it the game is basically over barring the credits.

You don't need any training or anything like that.

How the fuck do I level up if the Deathclaws are dead? I'm level 12 now and not leveling at all anymore.

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Could Fallout 2 be the best game of all time?

>>388079704
Doing quests.

>>388079704
DUDE QUESTS LMAO
Pretty sure I was around that level when I finished my run of 1.

>>388079767
I've finished all of them. I've got Hardened Power armor and every melee weapon and big gun in the game.

>>388079765
oh my...

>>388079505
>just sneak

That hasn't been going well for me so far despite above average stealth skills.

>get to Great Khans camp
>they all start running in terror and calling me some cool name
>go inside and get immediately attacked by he dude in metal armor
>die, restart, try to pickpocket dynamite into his pockets
>make literally thirty attempts before I manage to sneak them in undetected
>throw grenade for good measure
>grenade + two dynamite + another grenade doesn't kill the fucker

I somehow beat this place on my first playthrough with small guns but this time it's impossible.

Starting Fallout 2 where the fuck do I get a fucking gun

>>388077459
He probably had his reasons. Isn't unarmed so good that it renders using melee weps pointless in F2?

>>388079893
There are a few in Klamath but you gotta keep your eyes out for them otherwise you'll end up on a Pipe Rifle.

Guns become really readily available at The Den though.

>>388079765
Well it IS an RPG as good as you can get on PC. You wanna role play degeneracy you knock yourself out.

>>388079893

You'll get a pistol in the first town, not counting your village.

>>388079893
The best way to get guns is just walking around new reno and watch two gangs fight, then loot the loser.

>>388079949
She's 16 anon
It might not be degeneracy, just being exploited

>>388079920
>>388077459

Who gives a shit? As long as you can still win the New Reno boxing circuit it's still the most OP shit in video games.

And it's not like it's unusable, you just can't ham fist Frank to death naked anymore.

>>388080129
>jsut being exploited
I'm pretty sure there is only one (1) situation in the entire game when you're forced to have sex. And to take drugs you have to use them yourself, no forcing here either.

>>388080318
Peer pressure

How much science do I need to resurrect Dobbs? Or is it just a repeatable roll like everything else?

>>388080152
>knock frank horrigan out like a bitch barehanded

the entire enclave should have committed sodoku out of fear after that happened

>>388080406

To be fair they never really get the chance to find out.

>>388080406
>>388080152
>>388079920
w-wait, was it really that good?

>>388080358
Whatever helps you sleep at night man.

Finally a thread where contrarian /v/ isn't hating on 2. Why the fuck did that meme even start?

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>>388080358
Well I do have Myron with me for good measure, he's good for encouraging the girl and I don't plan to be asking him to make me any Jet Antidote. Too bad he can't make drugs other than Stimpaks/Super Stimpaks & Antidotes on the fly though because this bitch be cravin' some of the more exotic and expensive chems.

I need to ditch Cassidy though, not sure why she picked him up for the party. Maybe she craved the old man dick? He hates drugs though. Might sell him into slavery to pay for the habit.

>>388080458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emcWMLrfEzU&ab_channel=katzenpapa

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>>388075480
Fast Shot + Bonus Rate of Fire + Sniper + Action Boy II + Turbo Plasma Rifle
Six shots, enough to kill anything that moves.

>>388080458
I think they refer to Slayer perk that basically allows you to randomly onepunch niggas when you crit. Like just torso crit for 200 something damage and bye bye enclave officer in power armor

>>388080458

Yes. In the unpatched Fallout 2 unarmed weapons took half of the vat points on average, scaled almost 20% better than melee off your stats, benefited from any melee traits you took, and typically costed half the AP of an equal level melee weapon.

Add to that the New Reno Boxing circuit which, in practical terms, gives you a buff that makes you immune to every type of damage besides plasma and you have a broken as fuck skill.

>>388077384
>14mm
Shit sux dick, thanks to its ammo mod it's always dealing 1/2 damage. The .223 pistol is ideal if you can't get the LE BB gun, since it doesn't have quite as high of an AP cost compared to the sniper rifle but uses the same decently powerful ammo.

>>388080749
.233 pistol is my weaponfu. It's so fucking cool

>>388070572
I challenge you two play through Fallout two more times before reading/posting on this site again. Cherish that time, for you will be truly happy in it.

>>388079893
Don't rest at all once you get to Trapper Town, otherwise the faggot that died will have his bloodstain covering your first decent gun for the next millennia.

>>388080952

Son of a bitch...
Over 30 playthroughs and I've never found that gun.
I'm actually angry.
What the fuck

>>388080619
>>388080719
>>388080742
I was looking for inspiration to do a new attempt.
I have found it.

>>388080742
Don't forget that the power fists both have the 'weapon penetrate' perk that sets DT (normally untouched by ammo modifiers and the like) to 1/5th of its original value, so Enclave faggots wind up having about 4 DT.

Any good FO1/FO2 mods?

>>388081092
It's a one-of-a-kind from a sidequest in the Hub in Fallout 1. In Fallout 2 I can't remember where exactly you get it but it's found in multiple places.

I've never actually beat the Master through any other means than getting him to kill himself.

>>388081190
You lyin m8 or did you use a guide? First playthrough I had this epic (for lack of a better word) showdown with him with the Turbo Plasma Rifle on my very first shitbuild that lasted forever.

>>388081174
Widescreen support

Is the fallout online still active?
I haven't been on since the roaming russian deathsquads.

>>388080596
That meme is literally a result of Fallout 3 fans attempting to align their favorite game in the series with Fallout 1 in terms of depth/seriousness and trying to totally devalue all of the good things about Fallout 2 by picking on its easter eggs.

You ever see those "I liked Fallout 1 and Fallout 3 the most, but I HATED Fallout 2 and New Vegas" people? It's them.

>>388081190
I've only eye-shot his punk-ass to death.

>>388081174

HD support.

For 2 the restoration mod is cool. However, as some have said the content isn't really up the standards of the rest of the game and the mod creators took some liberties with balancing changes.

>>388081174
If you're talking about first time playthroughs you will absolutely be needing some unofficial patches and widescreen patches.

If you just mean mods for spice, Restoration Project for Fallout 2 is overall very good and there's the MIB88 Megamod for Fallout 2 which adds tons of garbage to the game that might interest you.

>>388081174
Not really aside from >>388081321
I guess restoration project is alright, although you can clearly see why the cut content was cut in the first place. It's pretty much fucking nothing.

If you want more Fallout but with different story, Nevada got translated to english recently I think? I've played it in russian back when it came out and it's pretty damn good for a fanmade sidestory.
Also there's Fallout 1.5 but I haven't checked it out.

>>388081378
>I liked Fallout 1 and Fallout 3 the most
the fuck

>>388081476
Fallout 1 is pretty stable without patches actually.
There was like one broken quest and a couple of typos but It was all around pretty smooth.
Fallout 2 on the other hand definitely needs patches.

>>388081378
>"I liked Fallout 1 and Fallout 3 the most, but I HATED Fallout 2 and New Vegas" people
They don't exist
Cite one post that confirms the existance if these people
I can't believe it

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>>388081476
>MIB88 Megamod

jesus fucking shit, anon.
I'm a fo2 veteran and I didn't even fucking know there were mods for that fucker.
You just made my entire weekend. I'd suck your dick right now if I could. Holy fuck I'm excited like I haven't been in years.
I fucking love you.

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>>388081378
This is some high-level bait.

>>388081476
>>388081524
So only Nevada as new content/maps? Gonna try later, I played restored FO2 already.

>>388081562
Well I mean obviously they never played Fallout 1 when they say this stuff, it's just to make their opinion on Fallout 3 seem more legitimate.

Anyone who isn't a dumbfuck knows straight up that the ranking is more or less:


Fallout 1 (better story/better setting) = Fallout 2 (better gameplay/more content)
>
Fallout Tactics (all gameplay, very little roleplaying) = New Vegas (actual writing/quest design, shit gamebryo game)
>
Fallout 4 (shit writing, lore rape, rpg elements rape, marginally better gamebryo game gameplay-wise) = Fallout 3 (shit writing, lore rape, shit gamebryo game) = Fallout Brotherhood of Steel (meme action game gameplay, awful setting/story)

>>388081710
>includes New Vision
I'd tread carefully, anon, I vaguely recall that fucking the ammo up something fierce

>>388081815
Oh OK
I see where you're coming from now
Also good ranking

I was going to do this too, but I'm short a dollar.

>>388082181
Just pirate it dude
The original devs don't even make money from it, plus it's a GOG game so it's extremely easy to get

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>>388082181
>he didn't get it from GOG when it was free

>>388080458
The only problem is enemies fleeing after you reduced them to 10% hp or so. If you used a gun, you could've just shoot them. Since you don't and they have the same 10 AGI you do, it turns into an annoying Benny Hill chase all over the map.

>>388079765
>>388080608
This guy again. I just had the greatest eureka moment. I should go and get married to Davin in Modoc and just cuck the everloving shit out of him.

>>388082461
>not Miria as a girl

>>388082514
I could but I can't imagine cucking Miria is as satisfying as cucking Davin.

Fallout 2 is my favorite h-game.

>>388082434
Shoulda taken those bonus move perks kouhai, they're some of the best outside of outright +damage perks for melee guys, and not too shabby for popping in and out of cover for gun guys.

>>388070572
Short, but very fun to do a lot of level 1-2 runs in, like in New vegas.

>>388082461
>>388082514
>>388082582
>tfw even my favorite game of all time is still invaded by cucks

Maybe I should move to a deserted island and kill myself when I get bored.

>>388081524
Fallout 1.5 is great, slavs really know how to create that 'twisted fuck' playstyle. I'd recommend it to anyone who likes 1 or 2.

>>388082654
It's more like NTR than real cuck shit. I'm not self-inserting as Davin. He's the cuck.

>>388082610
They don't fit into a build, when you have Bonus HtH Attacks, Better Criticals, 2x Action Boys, Slayer, Kama Sutra Master, etc.

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>>388082715
Just as bad if you ask me.

>>388082963
I'm not denying that it's degenerate but it's definitely a whole lot funnier than it is sad on this side of it. Especially with 16 year old crack whore porn star junkie roleplay gameplay.

>>388083034
I hate you but I guess I'd rather we have the freedom in RPGs to do this than not. Whatever.

>>388070572
>Those crit animations are pure kino.
They get old quickly.

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>>388083163
Unique ones are great.

Is the flamer funny enough to bother with or is it just going to suck dick and get me bursted to death?

>>388083365
It's bad - unfortunately. Not even the Improved Flamer in Fallout 2 with the Pyromaniac perk can save it. Shit's heavy as all fuck, too. Especially the ammo.

Basically any other Big Gun is better than it. In Fallout 1 I go straight to the Rocket Launcher and use it for Decker's assassination missions in the Hub (rocket through the church window lol). In Fallout 2 on a Big Guns build I go right for the M60 or Light Support Weapons you can find around New Reno.

>>388083365
Late game enemies are very resistant. And since you can't aim with it, no criticals to bypass armor for you.

>>388082750
But that's only 6 perks, and with Slayer being level 24, you've got two perks waiting to be assigned unless you were silly and took Skilled

>>388083562
Except those two perks are for Lvl 18 and 21. You get used to chases by then.

>>388083365
Pretend you're female moot and set aliens on fire in Redding, they're either not resistant to it or take extra damage, I forget.
It also has its use against floaters which are a pain in the ass to deal with if you don't have fire, but that's pretty niche.

>>388083676
Or you may not bother with a flamer and just cripple their limbs with a pistol making them stop attacking and flee.

>>388083365
Its bad but playable. I even finished F1 with throwing, flamethrower is a cakewalk compared to that.

>>388083676
If you're using any other Big Gun though you can just stand at point blank to them (the range they come to you and start hitting you at anyway) and hit 100% of the bullets in your burst, which will kill floaters and wanamingos in one shot a good 90% of the time.

>>388083793
>I even finished F1 with throwing,
How?

>>388083851
Probably by throwing things

>>388083851
Eye crits can basically one hit kill just about anything. Throwing builds are all about scoring criticals.

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>>388083793
>>388083851
>flares cost 1 AP to throw
>with Better Criticals you have 20% chance to instakill anything with anything
>even if you do 0 damage
>you can pick them back afterwards

>>388083851
>>388083928
This plus plasma 'nades for Master
Frank on the other hand royally fucked me.

>>388083939
WHAT

I wish there was cool stuff to throw thats not a grenade, I assume spears dont work in the lategame

>>388074561
>On my first playthrough I never discovered you could enter buildings with closed doors in cities,
What the fuck dude

Although to be fair, it took me THREE playthroughs of Fallout 2 to realise that shopkeepers have different inventories depending on what table/shelf/whatever you click on

>>388079949
>as good as you can get on PC

what are you insinuating there

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>>388084208
>shopkeepers have different inventories depending on what table/shelf/whatever you click on
Here. You earned it.

>>388080596
I don't hate Fallout 2. I dislike SJW liberal Cuck Avellone's epic memes that were crammed in to the game.

>>388084431
>>>/pol/

>>388084431
What SJW memes are you talking about?

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>>388084464

Oh boy, here we go again

>>388084287
I'm implying that tabletop/pen and paper stuff will outclass it.

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>restarted fallout 2 three times because i regretted something on my character
this time i'll get it perfect

So have they ever explained why they felt the explicit need to include a line in Cass's New Vegas ending for the NCR route where she goes to your room to fuck you but finds and fucks a random grunt instead?

Always felt weirdly outta place and like it came from another random spergfit by Avellone about how much he hates romance in RPGs.

>>388084695
Why don't you ask him?

I doubt most people cared enough to bother.

>>388084695
If Avellone hates something, he will shove it down your throat. No exceptions.

>>388084695
I'm pretty sure that is exactly why they put that in there, and also why they cut the two of you being able to get black out drunk and married in NV.

Avellone just has a really fucking big hard-on for shitting on romance in roleplaying games. Its weird and his reasons are hypocritical but it is what it is.

>>388084726
I would if I knew how.

>>388077023
>Contrarian

>>388084431
What SJW liberal cuck memes are you talking about?

You mean Star Wars and Monty Python references?

>>388077384
Plasma is what you need, pretty sure some of the muties drop plasma rifles

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>>388084686
>go to Modoc to get the mole people shit over with
>somehow fuck up and drunk guy won't talk to me
>bust it to get back to Modoc because I was supposed to talk to the black guy (who is currently missing a finger) in a certain way
>he says they killed all the slags
>already fucked up a few things prior to this and wind up restarting
Worst part was that I distinctly remember having done the exact thing before

>>388084695
>Always felt weirdly outta place
How so?

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>>388084686
AVELLONE IS SAYING NCR ARE KEKS

>>388077384
You want a .223 pistol.

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>tag lockpick
>turns out it's just a roll and you don't actually NEED a high lockpick for anything

>>388084431
>>388084464
>>388084513
>>388084535
>>388084764
>>388084938

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Amanda

>The Chosen One can choose to save Joshua from the Servant Allocation Center in return for simple thanks or (if they are so inclined) force Amanda to have sex with them in exchange for her husband's freedom.

How could a game with this be for SJW cucks

>>388085078
locks can get jammed if you try too many times without savescumming

.223 is always my go to gun

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>>388084830
That's pretty fucking funny. Not SJW/cuck/etc. Though NCR are cucks.

Imagine if he actually DID have romance. It would be fanservice for soyboys. Pathetic beta male cucks.

>>388085078
Good luck opening the toxic cave base to get cool combat armor and missiles forcibly shoved up your ass without an electronic lockpick

>>388079356
>Everyone said a low INT playthrough would be fun and lolxdsohilarious
that's for fallout 2

a fallout 1 low INT playthrough locks out like half the content, it's only really fun if you've already beaten the game half a dozen times and know exactly what you're doing

>>388085079
I think he just meant references that tend to be made by SJW cucks, rather than SJW/cuck references.

E.g. harry potter, star wars, etc.

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>>388085149

>>388085079
Better yet, how could a game like this be made by/for SJW cucks:
>>388079765

>>388085313
>having to haul shitload of explosives
>wasting them on locks

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>>388085313
What the FUCK was her problem?

>>388084982
Because it comes from nowhere regardless of how you interacted with her so long as you were on good terms.

In the main-game she's very clear that you're just friends and the closest you can get to any flirting is her accidentally admitting she bangs chicks too if you play as one, besides that its all 100% platonic and the two of you are just great friends or tense partners. She never once hints at being into you, and in your only chance to hit on her she always shoots you down.

It comes up in no other endings either, its literally only the NCR one where there is ANY sign that she ever wanted to fool around with you at all.

The entire thing just feels like Avellone put it in because he knew NCR favouring players would be the majority, that most players would gravitate towards Cass as a companion because she's one of the first you can meet and is conventionally attractive, and that as a result plenty of people would see it - making it a great opportunity for him to shit on NCR fans AND people who wanted romanceable companions.

Its just fucking weird.

>>388085408
>not having a pack mule Sulik
What else would you use explosives on?

>>388081174
Restoration mod for Fallout 2 is good for a first time playthrough.

Fallout 1.5 Resurrection is a TCM for Fallout 2 that's pretty good as well. I wouldn't play Fallout of Nevada just yet, since although there's a full release out, the English translation isn't 100% just yet (you can download and play the English translated version, but like 5% of the text is still in Russian)

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>>388085425
> he knew NCR favouring players would be the majority, that most players would gravitate towards Cass
> a great opportunity for him to shit on NCR fans AND people who wanted romanceable companions.

/ourguy/

Is gambling reliant on the actual skill, or just luck hax? Theres not a lot of skill options for a 3 int retard.

>>388085584
Depends on the gambling.
Craps in Den are pure RNG, no skill investment required. Can get you 20K in 20 minutes.
Slot machines and everything else is dependent on Gambling skill.

>>388085748
>dat floor
what the fug kind of patch is that

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>>388085748

>>388084695
>Avellone
First of all Avellone didn't write NV, secondly it's Josh Sawyer who hates Romance.

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>>388085078
>tag steal
>dump a load of points into it
>find out later on that you can pickpocket anything usually within 1-2 tries with only 20 steal

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>>388085879

>>388085418
Wait, under what circumstances do you get named captain of the guard?

>>388085957
nigga how do you have cold hands in the middle of the wasteland

>>388085957
>hand as cold as death
Yes, yes, rape and sexual extortion is bad, we get it no need to be so melodramatic.

>>388084906
Its actually the people who shit all over 3 and 4 who are contrarians.

>>388081815
New Vegas still ranks above fallout 2 for me. When there is a big crowd, fighting in F2 just becomes a game about waiting for a long ass time.

Quests like guarding a caravan suck in F2.

Encountering have a a group of mutants, and having your one dozen allies help fight them makes it agonizing.

Each action takes five seconds. So you really only play every minute and a half.

I do hate new Vegas' game engine, but at least it doesn't bore me to hell by not letting me do anything.

Are there any mods for F2 to speed up the battle?

If there are, then F2 definitely tops my list.

>>388085827
Whoops - my bad.

Won't lie to you my dude, I get the two mixed up in my head constantly. Mostly because for years I thought it was just one dude called Sawyer Avellone since that's all anyone called either and my English was shit back when I first started seeing them brought up

>>388086006
get her BLEACHED

>>388086102
>I do hate new Vegas' game engine
In your own words, what is a game engine?

>>388086213
makes game go vroom vroom

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>>388086237
INT = 1

>>388086175
Well it's Josh who was in charge of NV and you can tell. There's really no romance at all and the closest to it is Red lucy or the Vault 77 (the one in The Strip, I think that's what it's called) chick. I don't mind romance as if I want to, it allows me to roleplay my char even more. Josh just sucks at writing it.

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>>388086102
>When there is a big crowd
>get attacked by wolves
>fuckers don't have their walking animations sped up so it's a full minute before I can do anything
>get the forumfaggotry random event
>make sandwich in the time it takes for the epic reference people to take their potshots at the homeless guy

What is the worst route in Fallout 2 to take and why is it the route between San Francisco and Navarro?

>enclave patrols
>packs of aliens
>centaurs and floaters
>press gangs
>basically everything that wrecks your shit up until the very late game
>all appearing 10x more frequently for some reason

>>388085748
>>388085812
>>388085879
>>388085957
the shit storm if fallout 2 came out today would be fun.

still, hot as hell.

>>388086347
The hubologist encounters are free money.

Everything else is rape land

>>388085957
>Fallout 4 version
>Hey big guy, I need a favor, save my man and I'll make it worth your while, he doesn't need to know
>4 options, all of which are yes
>the quest is boring, linear, and you don't even get to bang her
>dialogue only replaces pronouns for female character without any other change

>>388077459
Will you please stop spamming this bullshit in every F2 thread?

>>388086213

In my words, a game engine is the set of mechanics and the way they are programmed.

Nv is a passable FPS with barely any RPG combat. It's a weird mix that gets neither perfectly. The only RPG elements are VATS and the DPS and Damage that weapons have.

Vats is what remains when stripping down things from F2 gameplay while taking away any movement.

I'm fine with the FPS style NV has, but I kind of preferred what I had in F2. Fallout isn't as fun as a pure FPS. It becomes more generic if dumbed down to a standard FPS.

>>388086286 #
That's hilarious.

>>388086294
"romance" is p dumb in games where you say a few lines of dialogue and suddenly you're basically married ala Ass Effect, Fallout 4, etc.

Sexual encounters on the other hand like in Fallout 2 are totally fine. There's no "romance" in that game but plenty of sex going on.

>>388086305
Fuck those wolves.

>>388087459
>vats
>rpg

yeah targeting bodyparts is the epitome of roleplay

>>388087552
rpg as in rpg elements i would assume, as in using your character's statistics to calculate your hit chance while in VATS

>>388086006
You have to figuratively suck her fat black ass in every single dialogue option while resolving the gecko situation with either genocide or incognito fixing the reactor.

>>388087595
fine

So we've fallen so low we're now describing things in the context of being "kino"?

Goddamn this place is a shithole

>>388087552
Outside of dialogue, its the only elements of RPG NV has. There ain't much to work with.

>>388087752
cant do much more when you are given bethesda's stillborn engine

>>388076456
That Legion dog trainer who wants you to rip the slave girls teddy bear up in front of her talks about Denver/Dogtown which is where the Legion gets their hounds and such. Pretty sure they touch on how cyberdogs were used in the Denver police force pre-war at some point too, but I'm not certain.

>>388074724
There's a chance to get one from a slot machine in Junktown if you have high enough luck I shit you not.

>>388085943
>>388085078
Steal, Lockpick and Traps are all tragically underused skills because of how abusable they are through savescumming. Such a shame. They should have made it like how they did Speech in New Vegas where you would need to hit certain skill point breakpoint requirements to be able to steal items above a certain weight, or open certain strengths of doors/containers, or find/disarm certain strengths of traps. Obviously without the [Speech 59/70] thing though.

This would make these skills much more important to invest in and not just savescum over and over. Something almost like this exists with different strengths of doors/containers in Fallout 2 when it comes to lockpicking, and weights of items do matter when it comes to stealing, same for traps etc. but the problem is that even if you have a 5% of success you can eventually get that just by savescumming the shit out of it. And I don't feel bad about savescumming it when the fucking door in the Dunton's house in Klamath is retardedly hard to open for a few measly items. I deserve to be able to sell those shitty items and not have to have 150% lockpick to do it.

Daily reminder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D4qliim_Jk

>>388087961
Is this a "that kid" meme. I don't believe it for a moment.

>>388088103
>And I don't feel bad about savescumming it when the fucking door in the Dunton's house in Klamath is retardedly hard to open for a few measly items. I deserve to be able to sell those shitty items and not have to have 150% lockpick to do it.
This. What the fuck was up with that door, when it's more secure than fucking military installations? I just started another playthrough recently and forgot about it so my lockpick was really low, and eventually I got so incensed I just threw a molotov at the door to be done with it.

>>388088103
>>388088580
Well, behind it is a Cat's Paw magazine. Which you need 10 to complete a quest and get +10 to Energy Weapons. So it's a Plot Door. Sort of.

>>388088848
Well it's not like there are only 10 in the entire game, though. There's probably like at least 20, not counting ones you can buy from shopkeepers that show up in their inventories occasionally.

Has anyone here given Fallout of Nevada a try yet?

It looks really good from what I've seen, but there are so few threads about it on NMA and no official English site or anything.

>>388089278
Someone in the thread said that it wasn't translated completely, some 95% of it should be so I won't give it a shot yet. Play 1.5 if you haven't

>>388089454
I've played 1.5 a couple of times already, and only Olympus/Nevada seem like they're en par in terms of quality and content. It feels strange how little attention Nevada is getting though, consider how comprehensive it looks

>>388070572
should i start playing this blind right now?

>>388079704
Grind Mutants in the northwest.

>>388086006
If you exterminate filthy subhumans and their power plant

>>388077384
On my first playthrough he fucking ran out of ammo and had to attack me with fists. Only reason I won that.

>>388083640
I've been thinking about doing melee and unarmed runs. Can throwing weapons be a viable way to deal with enemies that flee or are sent flying?

>>388081174
Fallout Fix't and the Restoration patch are the only o,es I know, respectively.

>>388090882
Sure, but you'll need throwing skill for that and to be honest it's pretty underwhelming.

>>388090882
>Can throwing weapons be a viable way
No.
>but I can raise the sk-
No.

>>388086094
>Bad games are good
Give me one good reason why 3 and 4 are better then New Vegas. There are none, New vegas is a way better RPG because it actually has meaningfull choice.

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>>388074769
Utterly destroyed

>>388085418
WE WUZ OVERSEERZ

I found 1 to be more frustrating than 2 in terms of balance and design. The official guide is excellent though, it allows you to choose the degree of spoilers you want for tips, it makes me think the game was designed around having to resort to a guide. For example, I would have never found out about the rope in the elevator thing in vault 15. In Fallout 2 however I was never lostm or in a dead endm but maybe because I learned what the game allows you to do from the first game.
I also didn't like how you are squishy and weak until you get the power armor, without which you can't engage mutants. In 2, even if you still need the power armor to fight the mutants and the Enclave, you could feel powerful in combat before it as the game is longer, with more armor choice and more fights to get loot from.

>>388092675
Doesn't the broken floor of the elevator give you a message indicating that you can't get down without a rope or something like that if you click on it? I seem to recall that being a thing and I don't remember using a guide or a walkthrough for Fallout 1 on my first playthrough - and I definitely used the rope from Shady Sands there to get through Vault 15.

>>388092951
this, im pretty sure it says "you cant get down there without a rope" and if you have a brain you remember you passed a town on the way to vault 15

maybe some people need big quest markers saying "buy rope from shady sands"

>>388092951
>>388093075
I did not think of clicking on the elevator floor, I clicked around it but not directly inside. I played it last month so it was difficult to know what was scenery and what was clickable. I also admit that I am not very patient, older games are certainly punishing to impatient people

How can I get into the brotherhood of steel bunker in FO1 with an intelligence stat of only 1?

>>388094361
Pretty sure they ask you to go retrieve a thing for them

>>388078294
buying the water added 100 days to get the chip, but reduced the time the master was able to find you by 100 days because sending caravans to your vault exposed its position more. Also, 500 days was more than enough. The game was fucking short.

>>388094361
Lockpick the door with electronic lockpicks?

>>388071514
Friendly reminder that Fallout 1 is not a true isometric game.

>>388095863
No one cares faggot.

>>388096245
You care.

>>388077459
i've been playing F2 for the first time with restoration project should i uninstall it?

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>>388080028
Vault City patrol vs. a gang of raiders is where it's at. You'll walk out with so much loot that you can outfit your entire party with really good shit, end up with five figures of cash from selling the rest and still have to leave some tasty stuff behind because you're physically unable to haul everything away from the encounter screen.

>>388097257
No, it's fine. Maybe not a totally pure first playthrough because of the extra content compared to just using the unofficial patch but ppl r rly dramatic about the unarmed/melee changes (which are like the only balance changes i'm even aware of in it).

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>>388084208
W-What?

>>388088114
Glad to see he's back.

Can't wait till he looses it on stream again.

>>388094863
where do i find electronic lockpicks?

>>388099730
In a thief circle.

>>388097257
Some of the new content for the Restoration Patch is awesome - some of it sucks. It really depends.

There were a few new cool settings and ideas and even a fun new NPC follower

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>>388084208
>Although to be fair, it took me THREE playthroughs of Fallout 2 to realise that shopkeepers have different inventories depending on what table/shelf/whatever you click on

WHAT THE FUUUUUUCK. i have always been tlaking to them to start barter, but can you initiate it by clicking on shelf?

>>388099981
>a thief circle

you mean those guys in the basement in The Hub?
they told me to go away because i'm to stupid.

>>388099457
>>388100602
You are playing an RPG. Why didn't you loot everything to see what happens?

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>>388070572
ok, i would like to discuss ending of fallout 2.

why no one form enclave cared about big ass tnaker docking right ourside entrance to their HQ? and why no memeber of enclave cared about PC wandering through their base (which lead to destuction of the computer)?

did i miss something or ending is super-rushed?

>mfw playing Fallout 2 with a character who has 10 Luck, Jinxed and his only combat skill is unarmed
Give me a better build. You literally can't.

>>388100660
i role play as a good nigga

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>>388084208
w-what?!

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>>388100829
Fuck off with your jinxed meme.
For jinxed to trigger, the enemy has to miss first. They don't miss on hard combat difficulty and rarely miss on medium.
Then, after they missed, there is only 50% chance for jinxed to trigger.
And only then something happens. Like they lose a turn. Or all their ammo in a magazine. Or some other useless shit.
Fast Shot + Turbo Plasma/Gauss Pistol is much better.

>>388100625
>One may also find a secondary pair of electronic lockpicks in the upper-levels of the Cathedral. Yet another set of electronic lockpicks can be found in a locked locker on the fourth floor of the Mariposa Military Base near the Lieutenant.

>>388100829
jinxed is useless near end-game. the enemies that are likely to miss are also likely to deal like 2-5 damage to you, max.

>>388075038
>>388075146
It's not just Vault 8, there's 1000 of those things just laying about, there's even a similar scenario where you help a midget dig for treasure only for the treasure to turn out to be now useless bottle caps.

>>388099457
>>388100602
>>388100879
Yep, most of them have different stuff on different shelves\tables. For example, bald leather armor trader in San Francisco has ammo and weapons on one table and armor on the other. Other SF trader has energy weapons and drugs on one and books\armor on the other. It's pretty essential to always check both actually
Also midget in tent in front of NCR has different shit on 3 shelves. So yeah

>>388077023
It's a half finished piece of shit but it's still tiers higher than a fully finished 3 or 4.

>>388101935
i mean, i were aware that they have different items, but i thought it was depending on the time, so i was mostly waiting. it sometimes worked and changed goods he offered and sometimes it didnt.

>>388092452
>meaningful choice is the only metric by which an rpg is measured

What did dipshit mean by this?

Just started Fallout 1, should I conserve my ammo and knife these rats to death for the EXP?

>>388103973
Nah, you'll find a better gun soon with different ammo type.

>>388100829
>>388101201
>>388101551
Isn't the best Jinxed 1 luck build unarmed or melee since those weapons can't critical miss?

>>388104760
I vaguely recall one time missing a punch so badly that I crippled myself. Not sure tho

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>there's an entire moral dilemma of stealing water from Necropolis or taking it back to your vault and even a solution to keeping both the town and your vault alive
>never made it to Necropolis in time in my playthroughs and it's always been a giant graveyard for me
>people restarted their playthroughs/saves for this

>>388086294
It's ironic. There's no romance in New Vegas because he hates when it's there and poorly written, yet the game could have had some really well written romance if they actually felt like including it. The companions all have enough depth for it to be pulled off well. It'd definitely be better than in Fallout 4 where all you have to do is flirt with your companions and they'll gradually want to fuck you over time.

>>388105223
What he actually said was that he hated forced romance, the kind that's there for the trophy ping or just there to make sure there's an even number of male and female romance options.

>>388087961
bull fucking shit. why even say that? it's not even that interesting of a lie

>>388070572
Can you make a fun build in FO2 without meta knowledge? I did the ol' Small Guns/Speech/Lockpick and eventually Energy Weapons in 1 but I'd like to do something different for 2 if I CA . Also don't want to play as a retard for my first playthrough.

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>>388071514
>still no Fallout game where you can go to Denver

>>388080458
you can lower the AP cost of a super power fist attack to just 2 AP and have it crit all the time

With the right perks you have 12 AP to attack and 2 to move; roughly 14 AP to do actions with

It's OP as fuck. 6 attacks in a round each hitting for roughly 60-140 damage depending on the foe

>>388105791
Er, meant "if I can" there.

>>388078717
I like how you listened to it for 10 minutes before linking it.

>>388079893
In Klamath, Vic the trader's shack on a shelf in the back behind a door. A shitty pipe rifle that you need to reload after every shot but it is the very first small gun you can obtain.

Later you can get a 10mm pistol in the Klamath rat caves.

>>388074561
gj you played on INT 1 irl

>>388105791
You can do "unarmed slut". Max charisma, dump perception. Tag Unarmed/Speech/Lockpicks. Spare yourself the headache of earlygame by actually being able to fight. Fuck everyone.

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I was hoping to only spend ten bucks on some new games, so I was considering Fallout 1, 2, Sonic 2 and Sonic 3: Knuckles & Knuckles.

Can someone sell me on the first two fallouts?