Are the Dragon Age games worth getting into? I've heard

Not really, no

Anything they do is done better by other RPGs

>>388020046
Dragon age origins is amazing (get the ultimate version on steam that has all dlc)
Dragon Age 2 is very hated by the community. I liked it for what it was worth. the biggest offence is that they recycle dungeons like no other mother
Dragon Age Inquisition is just on offline mmo

>>388020320
Any recs? I got New Vegas, but I'm looking for some more recent things.

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>>388020591
If you like CRPGs then Shadowrun Dragonfall is very good. Same with Divinity Original Sin and Pillars of Eternity (made by the guys who made new vegas)
Dues Ex are really good if you are into cyberpunk and crazy conspiracy shit. (the first one is 20 years old but jump in with Human Revolution if you cant stand old graphics.)

I recommend DA:O if you are a cuckold.
THe only AAA ga,e with legit cuckolding in the sotry and the ability to be a cuckold with morrigan at the end ofher romance route.

>>388020046
Play Origins.
Pretend the others don't exist.

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Play Origins. Then play The Witcher games.

>>388020983
I'm not so much into that type of game. I'm looking at more of the 3rd person style game. It seems like Bioware is the only dev putting out these kinds of games and they've gone to shit.

>>388021220
What are you talking about?

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>>388021705
then go with dragon age origins and see what that does for you. there also is Jade Empire and Knights of the Old Republic. They are also from bioware.

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DAO has in my opinion some of the best characters, world-building, lore and story presentation in any fantasy crpg, most definitely worth getting into.

Though there's some good stuff in the sequels (mostly characters) the overall quality is so much lower, you can safely stop after the first.

>>388021220
I think it might be time for you to leave your room, go outside and see the sun and maybe even some trees again, anon.

>>388022324

This pretty much. DAO and ME2 were Bioware's last decent games

>>388021220
are you okay?

>>388022324
This guy gets it

>>388020046
This >>388021701

>>388022269
It's a low quality near-shitpost but it's legit.
Oghren is an actual unironical cuck in the game and you do have the option of becoming a cuck during morrigan romance, you can let another man impregnate her during your romance(you can have on of the games bad characters Loghain do it too lel) and then raising her child.

>>388022297
Cool beans I'll check them out

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>>388022494
ME2 removed a lot of RPG elements from the franchise and I would consider it the beginning of the end.

>>388022581
Yeah, right. I forgot about that. But that's really stupid thing to do. (I mean, being cuckold is stupid.)

>>388022785
Of course it fucking is.
It's just incredible that that shit was in the game all that time. I didn't understand it at all since i was oblivious to what a cuck is then but it's still there.
Fucking bioware man

>>388022738

They removed a ton of RPG elements, still an utterly fantastic game

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Best Inquisition girl.

>>388020046
I liked 1 then stopped playing because the word on 2,was that it was awful.

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>>388024085
Cass is the best female party member.

Morri is now and forever best girl.

>>388022738
True, but it's still a good game if you enjoyed ME1 and wants some companions reunions.

>dat Archangel reunion

>>388020046
They're all pretty good games. DA:O being the best, DA2 being the "worst" and DA:I being pretty damn good.
Problem with DA2 is that it's much, much smaller in scope. Go into it with the mindset of a guy who wants to protect his family - not some mythic hero.
Also, you'll have the best experience if you romance Morrigan in Origins and Solas(Which requires a female elf) in Inquisition.

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>>388025191
>Hawke's goal is to make a name for himself and protect his family
>his entire family dies making his quest useless

What did the amazing writers at Bioware mean by this?

>>388025350
Tragic storytelling. Perseverance of character. Dark fantasy. Also, nice spoilers cuckhold.
News flash: heroes don't always need to succeed.

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>>388024914
As much as a I love Claudia Black and her voice gives me an instant erection, Cass's accent really gave her a run for her money.

Play 1
And maybe 3

/v/ only hates 3 because it has gays and a trans character.
At worst, the areas are a bit big, as they seemed designed for a multiplayer game. But besides that it's 100% fine, besides a slow start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OjBvHIg1sI

>>388024085
Her DA2 design was great. Inquisition transgender face is disgusting.

>>388025502
Tragic storytelling only works if you are actually attached to the people who have something tragically happen with them. Bioware equates something sad happening with good storytelling, and that's not how that works.

>>388025940
>/v/ only hates 3 because it has gays and a trans character.
Nah, it's because the game to a very large extent feels like soulless, repetitive mmo/collectathon/mobile rubbish.

>>388026548
Coulda fooled me with all those cool lore revelations and satisfying payoffs to various setups. Tresspasser is a masterstroke of storytelling.

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>>388020385
Just thinking about how the series as fallen makes me depressed.

>>388026548
You need to add more meaningless words.
Did you mention Rebbit or tumblr?
Or gatcha or candy crush?

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>>388024085
I like josie more. she's like DAO's Leliana, except not boring and cuter

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Play Origins (DO NOT forget the expansion, Awakening)

We'll tell you, beg you even, not to play 2 or Inquisition, but curiosity and the desire for more of the series will drive you to make mistakes.

>>388025191
Solas' romance was not that good. The only compelling part of it is [/spoiler]When he breaks up with you[/spoiler]. He's okay as a friend, but more interesting as an enemy.

>>388027804
Also.
>Avoid the archer classes on rouge and warrior
>Don't stick with the first 3 companions the entire game, you can pretty easily just switch off as you play if you want to keep things fresh even

>>388021701
He said he wanted an RPG though.

My first time party is Alistair, Morrigan and Leliana, I'm a female mage. Who should I romance? Should I swap Morrigan because of her beef with Alistair and "good" quest resolutions?

>>388027804
Give me tips on making my mage the best.

>>388027656
Is there a mod to make her skin not disgusting?

>>388028840
You mean change her complexion, or her skin colour? 'Cause I'm pretty sure there are mods for both, but I'm a consolefag.

>>388028623
Morrigan a bitch
Leliana a best

>>388028792
I find primal spells while usually ridiculously effective aren't that fun and the rest of the mage moveset (usually for me spirit/entropy/the healing spells from creation) give you really fun control of the field.

>>388028623
Swap out Alistair for Wynne and spec your MC as an Arcane Warrior so she can be the party's tank. You'll steamroll the entire game

>>388028792
Arcane Warrior/Blood Mage or Arcane Warrior/Spirit Healer and get the Dead Guy Time Bomb and Haste.

>>388029014
>Morrigan a bitch
But that's good.

>>388028989
Her complexion, specifically her moles and the way her skin looks greasy. I like her as a romance option but she's just really gross looking. Not Sera gross, but still

>>388029118
Fuck no Arcane Warrior isn't that fun, especially not as a first playthrough and ESPECIALLY not if you aren't making the arcane warrior tank and heal

>>388028623
Unless you mod, Morrigan can't be romanced by a female. If she's the biggest contender for being swapped, I'd replace her with Wynne. Flat upgrade, other than looks.

>>388028623
There's no "must have" people. I mean it. Just have whoever you want. Game's actually good; you don't have only one possible setup for success

As much as I loved Planescape: Torment, you really only had one setup.

>>388029250
All their skin looks like that. They made them pretty shinny.

>>388029640
>>388029335
I'm liking the game and already planning a second playthrough where I'll have a male MC fuck Morrigan because I want to learn more about this NPC, she's very intriguing. Thanks for the input.

>>388030113
I love Morrigan. Good luck. No idea why some (and I mean a great minority of 5% of people) people replaced her with an old chick but you really truly can pick whoever you want. They're all good. Old bag is a great medic if I have to be honest and despite my feelings that Alister is a bro and a great tank, even he was easily replaced with another type of character.
Be flexible and fun.

>>388030730
My second playthrough will certainly be with a male Warrior or Rogue, Sten, Morrigan and someone as third party (Zevran?), choosing quest resolutions that keep Sten and Morrigan happy.

What are fun kits for Warrior and Rogue? Is there something for Warrior that is, shall we say, "DPS" oriented like the Kensai in BG2?

>>388020046
origins on PC is the best experience you are going to have with dragon age.

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Remember when /v/ bullied Hamburger Helper so bad she quit her job?

>>388031061
dont know about warrior but with rogue you can get really good dps thanks to the backstab mechanic

>>388031061
By kits, do you mean sets?

Fuck, I usually mix and match but I believe the dragonscale armor is tank oriented. DPS orientation is probably limited to weapons, so no armor I can remember would add to this.
But It's been a while. And I didn't have all the DLC.

Well, as I said, you'll fine helmets that add +1 str, legs that do similar, etc. I can't remember any set that specialized.

>>388022738
Me2 was the harbinger for all Bioware's future problems
>Dumbing down gameplay
>Removing flawed gameplay aspects rather than fixing them
>Day 1 DLC
>NPCs being clearly favoured by the writers
>Plotholes caused by writers not bothering to check prior installments before writing
>Plotholes caused by writers not thinking things through
>Clumsy retcons
>PC centered morality syndrome
>Character assassinating anyone who is antagonistic to the PC
>Party members being PC cheerleaders

>>388029014
leliana is boring as bread.

>>388020046
inquisition was trash, was hyped but somehow got me to lose interest before I even finished the game

>>388031061
>Warrior: Berserker and reaver
>Rogue: Assassin and bard

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>>388028792
Direct damage spells are a trap, avoid most of them.
The best builds come from getting the Arcane warrior spec and using buff spells to make yourself nigh indestructible

>>388031217
No. Hamburger Helper left because literally everyone outside BSN hated her and her unsupervised writing, not because of any bullying campaigns, no matter what she said.
Pic related is how the general public feels about her.

>>388031703
Yea. The dumbing down was ridiculously noticable.

It's still a great game, I think, but it had some flaws.

>PC cheerleaders
Were they? I don't think it was this game that had it rough. ME3 and other games like Inquistion did it. I don't reclal ME2 being bad in that sense.

>>388028404
*cricket noises*

>>388028792
Arcane warrior are boring as shit and shapeshifters are just plain shit, go spirit healer/blood mage

>>388020046
dragon age origins is one of my favorite games of all time, and I personally tried to play inquisition 3 times. It is so bad, don't even bother

>>388032020
I should probably have clarified that I in no way think those issues ruined the game, but they were noticeable.
The whole intro was basically TiMmy and Miranda giving Shepard a long blowjob, for example.
Most of the NPCs do it to, with varying levels of egregiousness, though to be fair some of them, like Garrus and Tali, are at least justified.
I think Zaeed, Samara and Mordin are the only ones that lay off it entirely.

>>388032204
Too bad. It's the closest game to DA:O. How far do you get?
I won't say it's great but it's good enough to beat once. But the rule is: if you really don't enjoy a game, dont worry.

>>388032204
I forced myself to finish it on PS3, it was terrible, I hate the trend of shitty boring huge map
>>388032507
>It's the closest game to DA:O
Bullshit

>>388032632
I mistyped. It's closer to DA:O, then DA2 is to DA:O.
So if you want the universe and feel, it's gotta be DA:I

Though even then, it's still quite similar to it. I mean, you can't say Baldur's Gate is similar.

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>>388020046
Dragon Age Origins is a flawed, but fantastic game. It re-ignited by passion for video games after a four year hiatus of nothing but World of Warcraft.
Dragon Age 2 is an incomplete product that had a lot of potential to be good and was patched up to give it the appearance of it being finished. The final chapter is a huge disappointment, the DLC is pretty meh, but the journey until then has its moments.
Inquisition on the other hand seems like a cheap cash-in. It's shorter than DA2, the ending is abrupt and doesn't feel as if it ever intended to reach full potential, the party members are all tropes, not actual characters, and it plays like a cheap Korean MMO.

My advice is to play Origins and if you really liked it, maybe get DA2 cheap or pirate it. Inquisition is like a slap to the face for Origins players.

>>388032934
>Play DA2
>Don't play DA:I
Fuck off. If you like DA:O, skip 2 and do Inquistion. DA2 is not good in any sense. DA:I at least HAS DA:O gameplay and decent characters. The main story is crap, but most else is good.
Fuck the resource management but at least it's useful gameplay.

>>388032934
Don't forget Inquisition is even more dumbed down than 2
>eight active skills
>No more sustained ability

>>388033360
What could be the point of lying so obviously?

>>388033556
Best post in this thread.
Totally true.

>>388020046
>bioware
no. Unless you're a flaming retarded normie, then go nuts. Not like normies know how to spend money properly.

>>388031061
Specialization isn't really that big of a thing in DAO. Warrior can tank, 2h dps, dual-wield dps, or be archers. Build is largely just picking shit that benefits which of those you picked. And the stuff is usually pretty obvious.

I don't know if dual-wield has the same issue, but 2H tends to be infuriating because you literally cannot hit a fleeing enemy because you stop movement to start swinging, and stop swinging when the enemy gets out of range. This was something that was fixed in DA2. You also get to see the other side of the mage coin, where because hard crowd control dominates the entire game, there will be fights where you literally don't get to move on higher difficulties. A lot of fights boil down to which side's mages lock down the other side's mages first. This also means stuff like Indomitable for 2H warriors is mandatory, but even then there's a ton of CC it doesn't make you immune to.

In the expansion, Warrior becomes a merchant of death both in dual-wield and archery forms thanks to the Spirit Warrior spec.

As for rogue, dual-wield is very similar to warrior except you're frailer but do far more damage from back attacks. Archery kind of sucks until late-game and becomes really strong in the expansion, but that's also only if you use mods to fix all the bugs Bioware never bothered to. Like increasing your attack speed past a certain point actually slowing your shots down. Rogues will also pretty much go pure cunning + Lethality for most of the game, and it fuels your lockpicking for free + synergizes with Bard. Pure dex will eventually pull ahead in terms of damage though, and is something to respec towards in the end-game or especially in Awakening. Archers will especially make a hard shift from cunning to dex due to Awakening's introduction of the Accuracy sustainable.

>>388033360
>DA:I at least HAS DA:O gameplay

if you do play origins, make a character for each origin story, as those are the highest points in the game for the writing

>>388034202
A simplied verison but it is what it is. DA2 did NOT have it for example.

>>388034181
>if you use mods to fix all the bugs Bioware never bothered to
That was annoying
>Get cool items
>Check wiki because the description is shit
>Effect wasn't implemented properly or doesn't work
Fucking hell

>>388033360
>DA:I at least HAS DA:O gameplay and decent characters
Nigga, what are you talking about? DAI has slightly better DA2 gameplay, but nowhere near DAO's. Most of the characters are just okay, and don't come near to having the likability or charm of DAO's party members. Shit, it has the worst tastics system of them all, and the characters are basically two of the DAO's characters combined into one.
>Sera: Oghren + Leliana
>Vivianne: Morrigan + Wynne
>Ironbull: Sten + Zevran
>Blackwall: Alistair + Loghain
>Solas: Morrigan + Wynne + Sten
>Dorian: Wynne + Zevran

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Inquisition had better characters than 2. Solas and Cass are Origin tier characters. Varric is fucking awful. He screams writer self insert character that they tried too hard to make quippy and likeable and didn't bother to actually give him a sense of purpose or an actual story arc.

>>388034523
Yes it did, did you even play it?

>>388034641
Bitch son, DA:O is obviously better, that's not a question. It's just that the spiritual successor, with downgrades IS DA:I, and not DA2.

On a side note, is there any game that has SUCH a great tactics system as DA:O? Honestly asking.

>>388034771
I did play DA2. It's fucking awful.
What's even funnier is how /v/ used to bash it and was RIGHT about bashing it, and now magically it's okay.
DA2 was horrible and Bioware went back towards DA:O for the third game.

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Dragon Age 2 was awful and I'm still mad I preordered it and paid full price for the game.

>>388020046
Dragon Age: Origins is more or less a PC RPG classic of the last decade, just play it and if you like it, maybe try Inquisition after.

That one guy telling to play Divinity: Original Sin is a moron, that game was a 7/10 at best.

>>388034893
Not sure, DAO's was detailed af. Maybe an older BW game?

This is bullshit. Mass Effect 2 didn't remove any "RPG elements". That's a complete weasel word and just garbage rhetoric. You're not doing anything different in Mass Effect 2 that you're doing in Mass Effect 1 with your character. And since you consider Mass Effect 1 an RPG in the first place you clearly don't value actual "RPG elements" in the first place. Hypocrites.

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Look real talk if you like Dragon Age play Persona. They are also RPG dating sims and they are all amazing.

>>388035057
>Calling anyone a moron while recommending Inquisition

>>388034893
>On a side note, is there any game that has SUCH a great tactics system as DA:O? Honestly asking.

If you mean the way that you can set up the AI to take the micromanagement edge off of yourself, Baldur's Gate 2 had something like it, although coding for it is shit.

If you mean intricate real time with pause battles, Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale offers those. Don't fall for the PoE meme.

If you want a good tactical PC RPG I suppose you could try Divinity OS.

But pls elaborate.

>>388035021
Terrible animations aside, if the human died from the fumes, then how did the other ones not?

>>388035226
Persona games are even worse than Bioware when it comes to dickriding the mc

>>388032934
>It re-ignited by passion for video games after a four year hiatus of nothing but World of Warcraft.
Holy shit are you me?

>>388034523
On a mechanical level, DA2 is simply an improved DAO. Where it fails (from a purely gameplay perspective) is in encounter design, shifting to waves of low HP enemies. That would have been fairly simple to fix, had they wanted to. There's no fixing DAI's shift to pretty much just a single player action-RPG, since the companion tactics can't be changed, they don't do what they're told immediately after being told, and they can't seem to navigate the new 3-dimensional terrain half the time either. They may as well not be there.

>>388035198
Nigga it removed the entire inventory system and dumbed down abilities. Also in ME1 you chose every single line of Sheps dialogue. As the series progresses you choose less and less of what Shep has to say. It was a Gears of War shooter and an RPG second.

>>388035191
I've played most of BW games. None of them have THAT level of it.
I mean, KOTOR had some but it's very general.
>grendadier
Yea, use up ALL 4 of the other grenades at the start of the fight and do nothing.

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>>388035404
>On a mechanical level, DA2 is simply an improved DAO.

>>388020046

1 is. Skip 2. Try the demo for 3. May like it, may not.

>>388035404
>b-but it's fast and flashy so it's obviously a hack & slash

>>388035608
It's roughly the Kingdom Hearts of CRPGs, except you could actually change your party's tactics in Kingdom Hearts.

>>388035198
Another anon already said some shit but I'll add in the huge loss of customization in skills.
It's a great game but it lost stuff.

>>388035226
Shut the fuck up. I like Persona games but it has no place in this discussion, you fucking shitpie.

>>388035608
Press a button something awesome happens!

The Dragon Age series went from a CRPG to an action game to a sandbox RPG. How the fuck are you going to change the genre of your game for every sequel?

>>388035460
First off you're gay. Know why? In Mass Effect 1 half the time your Paragon/Neutral/Renegade dialogue option are literally the same. You can start two new characters right now and go talk to Nihlus in the very beginning and choose the different options to see for yourself. And it does that the whole game because you don't know what you're talking about and are a stupid fanboy.

Also the inventroy system was cancer. What do you have a fetish for omni gel? They made the weapons better in 2 by making them actually different from each other. Putting explosive rounds on a weapon is fun for 5 minutes then you never do it again. I hope you're never put in charge of a video game.

>>388034893
The only thing I can think of that's similar is FFXII

>>388035346
In DA:O, you can tell your characters:
>at 50% health, use this item
>if ally has <45% healh, use healing spell
>if enemies are bunched up in a line (3 or more), use this AOE spell
>If you are low on mana, run
>if you are injured, shield bash
And so forth.
Never seen it before or ever game.

>>388035716
There is no loss in customization. Just because you don't have to break down a hundred items into omni gel every 5 minutes doesn't mean it's "normie cancer". You're playing vidya RPGs in the first place so what should I expect of an ADHD brainlet like you who likes to pretend he knows what he's talking about anyway,

>>388029014
>Morrigan a bitch
You can actually talk with Morrigan though. Leliana is super bipolar.

>>388035404
I didn't even finish your post before laughing off my ass.
How can ANYONE think this?

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>>388035754
>I hope you're never put in charge of a video game.

I am going to make Metal Gear Solid 6 and it will be a dating sim that plays like AC!D

>>388032934
>Inquisition on the other hand seems like a cheap cash-in.
2 was the cheap cash-in.

>>388035809
Really? Explain. I played an hour before I got bored but I'll listen.

>>388034741

It's funny though because Varric gets shits on pretty hard in Inquisition.

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>only non-gay romance options for male Hawke are Merrill and Isabela
>Can't romance Merrill because she looks like a teenager and Hawke looks like he's in his 40s
>Isabela would never want to get married or have kids
Why is this allowed? In Origins I could turn an edgelord swamp witch into a loving mother/wife.

>>388035754
I actually think that ME3 did a good job of bridging the gap between ME1's unnecessary bloat and ME2's complete gutting of everything RPG. Actually bothering to show the weapon stats again along with side-grade weapons that weren't DLC, adding back in weapon mods, a lot more armor options that matter and weren't DLC, etc.

Shame about the rest of the game though.

>>388035916
>Just because you don't have to break down a hundred items into omni gel every 5 minutes doesn't mean it's "normie cancer".
I didn't say anything like that. No one said anything like that. That has nothing to do with what I said.
Anon, this is WORSE than strawman.
NO ONE mentioned omnigel shits, and yet claim I did to combat me.
Argue the points *I* make.

>>388035021

Did you not play the demo? I was in such belief at that piece of shit I played on both the PC and the PS3 to make sure I hated it.

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>>388035707
>except you could actually change your party's tactics in Kingdom Hearts.
And you can't in da2?
>>388035742
>action game
How was Da2 an action game?

>>388036254
You don't make any points, you're just shitting out garbage rhetoric and trying to "Debate" on the internet you stupid normalfag.

>>388036118
Gambits are similar to origin's tactics, that's why people complain about the game playing itself

>>388036206

And Morrigan wasn't even edgy, she was just raised certain way and hated to be judged unfairly. I mean the woman thinks you're mocking her near the beginning of talking with her until she realizes you're just being curious (might be mage specific).

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>>388036206
>Isabela would never want to get married or have kids

And this is a problem because...?

>>388036598

Which is eternally the dumbest complaint. It's like lighting a firecracker than complaining that it exploded.

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The only good part of DAI is Solas (who's superior husbando) and DLC about him. The other parts rated T for trash.

>>388036473
Which is why you put words in my mouth.
Ok, compare:
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Talents
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Powers

The use of skills is radically different.

>>388036351
Didn't DA2 have an auto attack button?

>>388036351
I was shitting on DAI, where the entire party strategy part of the game was stripped out.

My views on DA2 could also be because I played it on PC. Maybe the console setup is different (push button, receive awesome!), but on PC it's literally just DAO but with waves of enemies that die too quickly to be interesting. The slightly better animations end up being a huge boon to melee since it avoids the stutter-step problem where they're constantly trying to hit an enemy that keeps running a foot way. DAO could really benefit from having at least some abilities actually be able to gap-close.

>>388036809
Like most rtwp rpgs you click on something and then it auto attack yes

>>388036796
+1% to normalfaggotry per level versus acutally changing the function of a power or giving your Shepard different abilities. You tell me? I love Mass Effect 1 more than you, I've played Mass Effect 1 more than you. But your head is up your asshole and I'm gonna continue to laugh at you and call you a stupid normalfag over it. Faggot.

>>388036852
>I was shitting on DAI
Thought you were talking about 2, I actually agree with you

>>388036751
>Gaider's self-insert
>I doomed a civilization and killed old-world magic so now I'm going to doom every civilization and everyone in the world to bring back magic
Such a brilliant character

>>388037000
Nice trips, but you're still an idiot and have no idea what you're talking about.

In ME1, you usually pick ONE weapon to be a master of (or you could become proficient in all but a master of none) and a skill like security to open shit up. Or make another NPC master a skill. Thus you have a team with unique weapon abilities and non combat skills to salvage shit, fix crap, open stuff, etc.

In ME2, you use your skills to unlock ALL special ammo. Every time you play.


Yea, which is more unique and varied?

The one which makes you pick specific weapons or the one that says "here, have anti-this, anti-that, etc. BUT you better pick them all!"

>>388020983
>Pillars of Eternity
WTF? That game is terrible anon.
>>388021701
>Witcher
le reddit cinematic masterpiece :^)

>>388034641
>>Vivianne: Morrigan + Wynne
The threads taking the piss out of her tryhard tumblr letter were golden

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>>388037265
>Solas
>Gaider
You don't know what are you talking about.
Anyway, he's great.

>>388037265
Tabula Rasa has been around since the bible.

>>388033360
Fuck off biodrone.

>>388036751
Solas is a bitch. interestingly-written, but a bitch nonetheless. I'll enjoy killing him

>>388037443
ALL special ammo you say? More like only one, so not even close. So what comparison are you even making? Not a coherent one. You are limited in both of them. So go play Mass Effect 1 and trigger the same dialogue from picking a paragon or renegade dialogue option for half of the game. Stupid and hypocritical normie. Dig the fanboy grave deeper.

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>>388035754
>In Mass Effect 1 half the time your Paragon/Neutral/Renegade dialogue option are literally the same
>Half
>can only list one
>of which is probably bullshit but I can't be bothered to see if you're bluffing
convinced me
>They made the weapons better in 2 by making them actually different from each other.
All three different ones?! Of which you'll only ever use one?! Or none, if you're unfortunate enough to use shotguns and don't want to shell out for "useful weapon" DLC?
Sign me up, massa!
>Putting explosive rounds on a weapon is fun for 5 minutes then you never do it again
Or changing the heat rate, or changing fire rates, or changing it to fit a different type of enemy.

I note you didn't try defending the absolute gutting of the power system and instead hoped people would forget about it. Smart move.

>>388037265
>>Gaider
You mean Weeke's

>>388037659
Look, if you don't know what the terms we use on /v/ mean, don't use them. Okay? Nothing outs you rebbitors more than misusing terms.
LURK MOAR.

>>388037914
He's right about the dialogue, I don't understand how you expect him to pull full dialogue trees from a massive RPG. I've played it more times than I can remember, and a lot of the neutral responses are the same as either the paragon or renegade response depending on the circumstance. ME3 greatly oversimplified and removed a neutral options almost entirely, but 2 wasn't nearly as bad about it.

>>388037472
What threads were these and where can i find them?

>>388037890
Anon, you must be an idiot.
There's ammo for shields, ammo for health, ammo for armor.
And now you are ONCE AGAIN, creating an argument I never ever mentioned. Where did I mention paragon or renegade choices?
Anon, give up, fuck off, and die. You are NO idea how to argue.

And I disagree with your choice that sucking cock is better than getting a blowjob, you fag.

>>388037914
More like all 25 of them instead of being one weapon per class in Mass Effect 1.

Changing the heat sinks is the only cool thing. Know why? Because that's the only way to make you not want to gouge your eyes from hodling Mouse 1 at a damage sponge for 40 minutes until it dies.

The power system was not gutted and you're just trying to use garbage rehtoric like every other normalfag. You literally get +1% to extra damage/force per level. You're defending that. Consider that. In Mass Effect 2 you at least get to change the property of the power at level 4.

These are simple games in the first place. But you circlejerk hard over the relatively simple one and think you're a badass. You probably don't even like RPGs which is why you'll trip head over heels over this normalfag AAA garbage in the first place.

Get to the next post. I'm ready for more laughs.

>>388038225
Yeah go cry until you feel better normalfag. I enjoyed the giggles.

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>>388038341
LITERALLY SAYING I WON.

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>>388038506
I know right the aboslute madman

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>>388038252
>Because that's the only way to make you not want to gouge your eyes from holding Mouse 1 at a damage sponge for 40 minutes until it dies.
Please stop, you're killing me.
The game you're defending thinks difficulty = shove more health, shields and armour at the enemy, yet you think ME1 is damage sponge?
I don't even know where to begin with an opinion so utterly wrong, so I'll just assume you're literally retarded.
>You literally get +1% to extra damage/force per level. You're defending that. Consider that. In Mass Effect 2 you at least get to change the property of the power at level 4.
Missing out the stages where you upgrade powers and unlock new ones, I see.
Did you even play the game? I'm starting to think you're just parroting.
And don't think I haven't spotted that you're trying to avoid defending ME2's absolutely horrible implementation of powers, where half the enemies in the game are immune to biotics, which combined with the universal cooldown makes them practically useless.
But I'm glad you mentioned damage sponge, because guess what? Remember how ME2's idea of difficulty is to slap amour on everything and call it a day? Can you take a wild guess as to what that does to the already crippled powers? Can you guess?
I also note that you dropped the "muh different weapons guise!" Don't think I didn't spot that, either.

I knew there was a grain of truth to the meme that people on /v/ don't play video games, but you sound like someone deliberately trying to hammer the meme home

>>388038801
>immune to biotics
This. I wasn't a huge fan of biotics in ME1 either honestly, but I had to make a new character for ME2.

>>388037773
lol he'll be "Redeemed" whether we want to or not

I've never played 1, enjoy 2, and dislike 3. 2 is the only CRPG thing I've gotten close to beating at like two hours of playtime. The battles don't take forever, and there's a lot of unironic teleporting behind you.

>Wheel of Time in the style of Joss Whedon

>>388039369
Three is basically unplayable if you try to pause and move the camera around at all, they should have made it more like FFXII if they wanted it to be a console game.

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>>388039482
Are we talking Joss Whedon back when he had people with veto power collaborating with him (that Buffy, Angel and Firefly fans seem to forget when they give him all the credit), or Joss Whedon going full George Lucas?

>>388039369
>two hours of playtime.
Do you speed run?

>>388039369
Please. Please just die. Worst taste ever.
You didn't even PLAY the first?

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>>388021220

>>388020046
As a Bioshill I'd say no, RPGs in general aren't worth getting into. You'll be much happier playing any other genre

>>388041125
What do you mean anon?

So after playing BGII like 4 times and now Planescape Torment for the first time, I want to ask you people:

IS THERE ANY FUCKING CLASSIC RPG LEFT THAT'S NOT A NEUTERED "UHH, BETTER NOT HAVE ATTRACTIVE, LOVEABLE WOMEN IN THERE THAT MALE PLAYERS CAN HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH AND LET'S JUST MAKE EVERYTHING ELSE AS INOFFENSIVE AS POSSIBLE WHILE WE'RE AT IT" LEFT?

BECAUSE EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE THAT FUCK

>>388024085
>She
>Girl

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>people still defend and support Bioware even though they haven't made a great game since 2009

>>388042283
Divinity?

>>388042283
ugh fucing cis white men should kyss elf

>>388039361
The canon ending will most likely have him redeemed, but I'll still relish the killing

>>388042505
It ain't really up for debate that Cass is a female

>>388042589
Multiplayer outside of MMOs were a mistake

>>388020046
They're worth playing. Even Dragon Age 2. Just don't pay more than $20 for the whole series.

>>388042283
Only Dragon Age really.

>>388042283
You could check neverwinter nights

>>388042761
That's a dude, man.

I really enjoyed DA:I, skip the shit quests and focus on exploration and the dragon fights

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>>388043383
You sure?

>>388043651
Yes.

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>>388043651
Christ

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>>388043832
Better?

>>388025768
>Cass's accent really gave her a run for her money.
She sounds like a robot to me and listening to her makes me angry.

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>>388020385
DAO is literally the most overrated game on /v/ I've ever seen.

It's not that fucking good give me a break, the combat is clunky and the animations are very stiff. the setting is about as forgettable as it gets. the only unique thing about it is you can have gay sex with the characters, a hallmark of bioware.

Don't get Origins on console, a GTX 760 can run it at 144hz.

>>388044905
Good, use that anger.
Angry sex is best sex.

>>388037451
Your taste is shit and you should kys.

>>388044082
Very

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>>388020046
Daily remainder that templars did nothing wrong.

>>388029640
>There's no "must have" people

Lol this nigger doesn't roll with Sten and Barkspawn at all times