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Just finished it for the first time, despite the jank it's

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Just finished it for the first time, despite the jank it's unironically one of the best games I've ever played. I even found the combat pretty fun with cool attacks and guns that have a good punch to them.

Couple of things I didn't really like though: The game feels like it takes a dip when it gets to Hollywood and Chinatown, the sewers being the obvious low point; but in general it just wasn't as good as Santa Monica and Downtown. I also was a bit naughty and reloaded to see a few more endings, because I felt the ending I got was pretty contrived. Some of them basically funnel you into a bad end with nothing you can do about it, the game implies you'll be able to overthrow LaCroix if you pick Camarilla, but you can't.

And actual spoilers-
The twist is fucking hilarious and is one of those things that make perfect sense in hindsight. The cab driver most likely being Caine was also great.
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What clan you played?
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>>387995509
What clan were you? I finished this for the first time last month as a gangrel. I actually enjoyed the combat somewhat but the gangrel transformation power is so shit. You can never land the last hit because of how fucking slow it is.

What was your first ending, since you said you reloaded to see the others? Personally I went Lone wolf,
seemed appropriate for a gangrel as well. If o had to have chosen though I would have sided with the camarilla.


VV best girl.
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>>387995509
Well, you CAN overthrow LaCroix but it won't be you who ends up leading the Camarilla.
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>>387995509
> it takes a dip when it gets to
Yeah, this is an issue with all Troika games, they never feel fully fleshed out because the games always ended up in development hell.
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I really enjoyed using the shortcut to skip the sewers :3
I can't decide who the best girl is. I love Damsel and Jeanette and Ming, can't care for toreador's melodramatic existence though.
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>>387995509
If you side with incompetent or backstabbing bastards then it makes sense for you to get burned.
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tfw troika was bidding for fallout but lost to shitesda
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>>387995576
>>387995851
Tremere
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>>387996137
just follow your heart. Though what most don't get is whomever you pick as best girl, you're not wrong, except fr Patty or as I like to call her Pisha's 10 o' clock feeding
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>>387996137
>Damsel
>Literally FUCKING CAMMIES, REEEEEEEEEEE.

Ming is also a cunt.
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>>387995861
FUCK there's a Tremere exclusive ending? I figured as much but got nothing.
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>>387996364
I think you have to just not be a dick to Strauss and kill the golem or whatever it's called in Hollywood and not rat him out.
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>>387995509
>Some of them basically funnel you into a bad end with nothing you can do about it

Some of those bad endings are implied however. You are told not to open it, that LaCroix will open it if you side with him, and you can see them chinks betraying you from a mile away You are warned that eastern and wstern will alwasy fight

There was actually a comic or some such that states that it wasn't actually Kain, but a very powerful malkavian believing itself Kain.
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>>387996364
No as long as you don't diss Strauss and not reveal he's behind the gargoyle you can get that ending as any clan
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>>387996465
That's what I did. Got the appartment and everything.
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>>387996323
I like my woman with political angst
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>>387996323
Damsel appeals to the tsun tsun crowd
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>>387996301
Now go and play Malkavian
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>>387996537
I'm not sure then, because I don't recall ever insulting him either and lied about the gargoyle and yet I never had the option to side with him.
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>>387996695
Did you appeal to the taxi driver about still believing in the Camarilla?
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---CLAN POWER RANKING---
Brujah-Ventrue
Tremere
Nosferatu
Malkavian
Gangrel
Toreador
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>>387995861
You end up as a Sheriff, a good spot for someone who just became a vampire a few nights ago. It will have time to overthrow LaCroix too.
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>>387996695
I don't know, but MAYBE you have to persuade Strauss to say that he doesn't like LaCroix and be nice with him about it?
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>>387997121
Did that, didn't get anything.
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Nosferatu are underrated they have good disciplines, their unique interactions are fun and you don/t even have to actually use the sewers because as long as you won't bump directly into someone you won't get a masquerade violation since it seems everyone in VTMB should wear glasses.
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So was the guy in the sarcophagus an actual Antediluvian? Was he dead or just dormant?
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Hollywood minus sewers and most of Chinatown is okay but it starts to lose the goth feel. The game definitely dips a bit but I think one reason is not having the darker goth feel that Santa Monica and downtown have.
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>>387997365
He was just some random mummy with no particular supernatural inclination
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>>387997174
This is a list of all things I can imagine beind related:
Talk to Strauss about the prince, make him say that he doesn't like the prince, and be nice to Strauss (don't side with the prince or similar), also say that you support the camarilla instead of the anarchs.

Talk to him and agree to solve the plague side quest in downtown, finish the quest and talk to him.

Do the Golem quest in Hollywood, discover in the process that Strauss is behind the Golem (you should have picked a book about golens in Stauss place before, confront Strauss about it, and pass some skill check to make him admit it), destroy the golem, don't tell the Baron that it was Strauss golem, and talk to Strauss.

In the end in the conversation with the Taxi driver, tell that you still suport the camarilla, but not the prince.

If you did all this things, I don't know what could have been the problem.

That said, I think it's one of the most boring endings. (Even if perhaps it's the "best ending" to the character).
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>>387997586
I have some people say this, but I don't understand. What makes you conclude that is not a very old vampire in stupor?
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>>387997945
That Jack refers to him by name and the camera pans over to this
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>>387997501
Aside from one building in Downtown nothing in previous areas was goth to begin with.
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>>387997810
>That said, I think it's one of the most boring endings. (Even if perhaps it's the "best ending" to the character).
Agreed, the TOP MEN reference is nice however the opened endings are much more satsifying
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>>387998249
Yes, but can't this be what an vampire in stupor looks like after thousands of years without blood?
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There will never be another game like this again.
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>>387996905
No actually I didn't, that must have been it. At that point I was like fuck all these people, I can't trust anyone in this city.
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>>387996137
The best girl is __Yukie_
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>>387997365
I remember someone suggesting he was a ghoul.
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>>387998357
Don't be obtuse just to be obtuse is was a chess piece that could cause no real damage to prove a point. Vampire power is politics, no way they'd actually use a 3rd gen. Plus you don't just take one out and not get devoured.
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>>387997945
Because there's nothing to suggest that. The entire joke is that everyone was making a huge fuss over the inhabitant of the sarcophagus but it turned out to be fucking nothing.
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>>387998512
>great mods
lmao
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>>387998512
me on the 10th panel
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post rule 34 on damsel
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Hollywood is the best section you dumb cunts. It looks peaceful on the surface but has the eeriest quest and a zombie infested cementary it's not like Downtown where you know from the get go the place is a dangerous shithole.
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>>387998307
Not exactly but The Asylum, the beach at night playing Darling Violetta, the seedy blood bank, the abandoned downtown building and the Confession club fit more into a goth style than Hollywood and Chinatown. Hollywood and Chinatown start to feel like normal places, just at night. SM and downtown are darker and seedier and feel a bit more goth-y.
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>>387998862
>Don't be obtuse just to be obtuse
It was an honest question.
>was a chess piece that could cause no real damage to prove a point. Vampire power is politics, no way they'd actually use a 3rd gen. Plus you don't just take one out and not get devoured.
I can't say about being 3rd gen or not, but even being a powerful vampire, being in stupor, and being cain the one who controlled the whole thing, I don't think it was in a dangerous situation. Prince, Ming etc., they wouldn't dare to mess around with something like that just for a ruse. But Caine? It's not obvious to me that he wouldn't.

>>387998973
>Because there's nothing to suggest that.
The symbols in the sarcophagus suggest some sobrenatural element, no?
>The entire joke is that everyone was making a huge fuss over the inhabitant of the sarcophagus but it turned out to be fucking nothing.
Or that the relevant content of the sacophagus was long displaced.
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>>387999580
Downtown has the zombie infested crackhouse
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>>387999854
where?
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>>387999998
When you do the plaguebearer quest, the final part with Bishop Vick
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One thing that sucks about this game (which is really kind of a complement) is that the game has so many great characters that get way too little screentime.

Almost every character you run into is interesting, then you do a quest or two for them and then they vanish out of the story. You basically are LaCroix errand boy for the entire game. A lot of characters that get introduced feel like they're gonna play a bigger part then they end up doing.

It's not really something that can be fixed because the game would have to be 10 times bigger but it's a shame nonetheless.
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every single female NCP in the game looks like a whore lmao
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>>388001025
Therese is pure.
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>>388001025
Not that one Japanese girl.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghdefRZIYdQ
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>>388001335
she looks straight out of a porn set too
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>Want to go read up on some WoD stuff after beating Bloodlines.
>Realize the writing is most likely gonna be fan-fic tier compared to Troika's.

Is any of it actually good?
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>>388001786
WoD is infested with SJWs I remember reading article about some clan on WoD wikia and it kept using ''she'' so I thought the clan is female only but as it turns out the retard used only ''she'' to not appear sexist
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>>388001623
You mean anime but that's often times the same thing.
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>>388000720
it sucks but it world builds also implying they have their own lives to go about.
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>>388001786
Just stick with the Revised Edition era books. That seems to be the pinnacle of the series. The first and second editions have a lot of 90s schlock written by some pretty crappy freelancers. I haven't read that much of the new 20th anniversary edition books but the little I have seems kind of dull.
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Was I the only one who fell for pic related?
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I couldn't really follow what the fuck was that slant eyed dog eating cunt saying so explain to me what's the difference between western and eastern vamps?
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>>388002771
No and my first playthrough I actually considered she was telling me the truth, i had missed Knox's quest so she was my only look into Kuei Jin. Then once everything came together I took the lone wolf ending
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>>388002771
I was into her but I never trusted her
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Ventrue and Toreador are the shittiest, most boring clans.
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>>388002962
>Being a peasant
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what recent game plays like this game? I need something like it that's new.
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>>388001335
I never got her quest, don't think I even saw her.
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>>388003276
She's in Chinatown, I think you can first meet her in some sushi place. Just look all over.

Her questline is pretty fun.
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>>388001786
Some of it is shit, some is good, most is mediocre. It's genre writing, so it will never be good, just enjoyable. Try the v20 ones for the core and the revised for clanbooks. The clan novels are only good, or least consistent mediocre, at the dark ages.
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>>388003149
Bloodlust Shadowhunter is like a dungeon crawling VtMB. Has some flaws and the graphics aren't amazing but I thought it was fun.
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CV is seriously one of the funniest characters in this game.

She tries to act like a poet but just comes off as a total pseudo-intellectual.
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>>388002771
Not really but perfectly understandable
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>>388005728
who?
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>>388005921
VV*
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>>388006243
Away! Away, Chinese demon!
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>>388006243
Now post her cute second form.
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>>388005728
Susan is a Toreador, they tend to be like that. At least she has nice titties.
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>>387996927
>Brujah that high
>malk that low

Ayy lmao
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Sorry everybody this game sucks and we all know it, crappy janky ass game that isn't even finished, not funny not well written not cool, just a crappy elderscrolls ripoff with less content and effort, boring ass shit game barely worth a playthrough, aaaaaaah the velociraptor scared me XXDD I had no idea what the fuck you people were talking about until the second time, how dumpass you have to be to get scared of that, at least the mission editor was progressive for its time.
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>>388007989
SUBSCRIBED!
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What is the best way to play this game.

I've been playing all those games I always saw at the PC store (RIP) but never could play because my computer was shit.
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https://youtu.be/33beYzKPjQI?list=PLa0kdYaWleuTLBC-8xekxHCJdcap5_7R4

I loved everything about this game. Played Malkavian, and really enjoyed it. Just have to go in with the knowledge that you're batshit crazy.
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>>388007989
The person who made this post is definitiely not underage.
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>>387997365
>>387997586
>>387997945
>>387998249
I always imagined him as a ghoul, would explain how he ruled for so long and all the vampire imagery on his sarcophagus and necklace. Though it could just be bad record keeping and pictures for the sake of coolness.
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>>388008260
Install the latest version of Wesp's unofffical patch, not the Beta version.

Run the patch installer and install it on the game's folder. Pick basic version instead of Plus version, Plus adds some new things but a lot of them are sort of questionable so it's better to save that for a replay.
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I'll never be part of the fandom because I still haven't forgiven VTMB for the fact that on my first run-through, I made a character who could not complete the game.

Fortunately it does have a god mode cheat, so at least there is that option if you have made a social character.
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>>388011126
>I'm butthurt at the game because I'm retarded
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>>388011367
>Only a retard would expect flexibility in a game which affords a variety of stat options.

I like to go in blind without reading builds and shit. Believe it or not, most games - i.e. finished games - can accommodate this approach.

If they couldn't finish the game then maybe they should have included a one-time vendor who lets you rebuild some of your stats before the combat gauntlet at the end, giving you the chance to unfuck yourself.

Simple solution.
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>>388011806
Nines straight up tells you to learn how to fight
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>That werewolf encounter.
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>>388011890
He doesn't tell you to max out the stat.

The game doesn't intuitively lead you towards it either. You can get by fine with just 3 (if I remember) points in your melee stat. Then there's a sudden difficulty spike when you fight the Japanese vampire boss, and it's impossible.
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>Easily crush everyone with my Ventrue with fighter build
>Get fucked by Ming Xiao
Is Ming Xiao the most powerfull enemy in this game?
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>>388013114
As far as I can tell she's by far the strongest. My ranged skill wasn't even that great yet I still tore bosses to fucking shreds with the Uzi, like almost instantly. She was the only one that put up a fight.
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>>388012968
she's Chinese you nigger
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>>388002771
First playthrough it was simply the ending I was most curious about and by then I already knew I'd be reloading saves and replaying in full.
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>>388013661
The sheriff wasn't even a challange compared to Xiao,it took me at least 5 to 6 tries to find a weakness in her move set and to proper exploit it(I kept on her back shoting and I used the flametrower for last),I had to use a good amount of my ammo to beat her.She was tough as nails to beat.
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