https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0o 3fctwXw0 GLORIOUS PC GA

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>>387952973
YEAH BUT HOW LONG DO I HAVE TO WAIT FOR NUDE MODS

>>387952973
Can't wait to turn all that crap off on my GTX 760

>>387953430
You won't be able to stupid goy, this is a Gameworks™ title so you better upgrade to the newest Geforce™ card immediately

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>square enix said they will rebuild FFXV on PC from the ground up
>they just added more grass

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I'm sure it'll look amazing but the gameplay was so fucking boring. I guess that's the reason we're not seeing massive amounts of platform war shitposting regarding this announcement.

>>387953942
Those regular effects renamed to "Nvidia™" made me laff my ass off

>>387953942
Did you even watch the video dumb fuck? They added way more visual effects than just one thing.
The only question that isn't addressed is whether it supports 60+ fps, which based on the video and the geforce article provided, isn't mentioned anywhere. Let's hope they decide to improve that over anything else.

>>387952973
I'm excited.

wtf i want boring grindy jrpg garbage now!

Sony ponies will never experience the game in ultimate quality

>>387953430
>FFXV DOS version

>>387952973
This is a broken record at this point. Everyone who is a PC gamer complains and shits on any exclusive that comes out then brags a year later when they get their port while the rest of the world has moved on. Just buy a PS4 and enjoy games again rather than browsing /v/ and modding skyrim

>>387953520
Stop memeing, Witcher 3 is full of goyworks and you can turn them off easily.

>>387954940
WE will see.
I can guarantee you however that you will not be able to run this game above 20 frames on that 760

>>387954770
In 2017? Most people just ignore them. It's obvious that Steam isn't getting anything worthwhile, and consoles are having a small golden age.

>>387952973
Looks like another game that AMD users can't play.

>>387955248
Yeah its really weird. Graphics and computer hardware is so good right now but the only pc gaming that people play is mobas, csgo, or PUBG. Any other online community sucks a fat one while PS4 and even Xbone are doing really well

Okay now when is Bloodborne

>>387952973
Looks fucking gorgeous. Worth the wait.

>>387952973
Seems like they are actually taking the time to make a good port instead of the hack job mobile shit and awful ports like XIII we have gotten in the past. Knew this was coming though should have been obvious from the tech demos they were doing on Titan XP.

>>387955510
"When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before."

>>387954770
Fuck off with your sweeping generalizations.

>>387955425
Let's be real: it's gonna run like hot garbage on Nvidia too, just slightly less.

>>387955821
Tis the truth. PC gamers haven't had anything to be proud of for like 5 years and you all decided to hate TW3 for some reason when the definitive version was on PC. The community just consists of whiners, pirates, and people who only benchmark games rather than play them

>>387955945
how so?

Nude mods when?

>>387955979
Why do you think Nvidia users also turn off HairWorks in The Witcher 3?
I'll tell you: because thess techs also tanks performance on Nvidia.

>>387952973
nvidia is single handedly saving gaming

>>387956141
I have a Titan Xp and running TW3 on 4k, I get about 60-70 fps everywhere but when I turn on hairworks it brings it down to 30-50 fps. Geralt does look damn sexy though with hairworks on.

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I bet my PS4 Pro runs the game better than your PCs can.

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good day for porn ladies and gents

>>387956089
Gentiana already has a nude model in the game files that's used when she transforms. It's only seen from behind in-game however.

>>387952973
SFM

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>170 GB

>>387956141
i'd rather have the tech there than not have it at all because some competing fanbase keep crying over how it runs like shit on their graphics card (or used to, amd fixed that shit up with polaris). these features are the ones which make a game shine when you go back to play it like 10 years later. any gpu at that time will be able to run all of this tech easily and it'll bring out the best in what the game offers with the realistic fancy hair and hbao ambient occlusion etc.

>>387956764
Oh I agree. But then, if we assume that GameWorks stuff can be turned off, claiming AMD cards won't be able to run the game makes no sense.

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>>387952973
>First person camera mode
Cool

>>387956764
>i'd rather have the tech there than not have it at all
Goo thing this was never an option then
The alternative to cuckworks is normal tech taht is not closed source and impossible to optimize.
You know, stuff like having normal graphics options ingame or using oen source treesfx that runs better and looks better instead of retarded hairworks that runs like garbage on everything and is closed source

>PC won't believe anyone when they say the game is shit because they'll think it's a meme about people hating it now that it's on PC

>>387953998
Feel the same. Everything is horrible about it except for the aesthetics, maybe mods will it make GOTY though.

>>387956952
Turning GameWorks off doesn't mean this game will be any more optimized for AMD users.

>>387955510
just play dark souls on pc is the same shit and less annoying then bloodborne. farming for blood vials makes the game annoying

>>387957242
AMD doesn't even have high end GPU's anyway. The comparable Nvdida GPU's shouldn't even have that shit on anyway cause its going to slow the game down a fuck ton

I don't care about 15. Give me ports of 12, FFT and Tactics Ogre LuCT

>>387956952
people were bitching because big reviewers were doing benchmarks with hairworks on and were complaining of bias as a result of the tech being used when it could have easily been turned off. instead of being a bitch cuck just buy a gpu which can take advantage of all this with minimal impact but get the beautiful visuals of something like hbao which is fucking miles better than trash like ssao.

keep in mind these same retarded fans who say that it's everyone else trying to fuck up their experience also don't realize it's down to amd to fix up their drivers. like i mentioned before all these spastics were calling bias because the 480 was benched with hairworks vs the 1060 on release and it had mediocre performance in some cases and it was blamed on the tech but then 3 months later amd had released like 4 driver patches which decreased the performance gap from ~10% in favor of the 1060 to just 2%.

>>387957147
>Much better version of game comes out on different platform
>i-it wasn't even good a-anyways!

lol, but yeah, FF has been shit for a while now. Best games in last 15 years are theatrythm, and maybe dissidia.

>>387953081
forget nude mods.
futa mods when?

>>387957572
Heavensward is pretty good story wise.

game is still unfinished and combat still sucks.

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>>387957634
Asking the right questions. The dongs better have physics.

>>387954248
It does support 60fps as well as HDR10 and 8k. The graphics options leaked as well, it'll guaranteed run like shit with all the settings cranked up.

>>387957495
>Hava Nagila playing in the background
Been some time since i've seen this level of shilling/fanboyism you fucking nigger.
>oy vey why use treesfx that runs well on everything while looking better and being open source so anyone can optimize for it
>use my closed source hairworks that no one but goyvidya can optimize for, that runs like crap on everything while looking worse than treesfx
kekekekek
> it's down to amd to fix up their drivers.
>optimize and fix
>closed source code that amd can't fcuking see or access by design
oyy fucking vey my dreidel is vibrating on it's own
> 480 was benched with hairworks vs the 1060 on release and it had mediocre performance in some cases and it was blamed on the tech
Because it is the tech you fucking buffoon
>then 3 months later amd had released like 4 driver patches which decreased the performance gap from ~10% in favor of the 1060 to just 2%.
That never happened in the retarded context you are trying to present it in, amd just released new drivers that improved general performance in every game across the board, they didn't do shit to gameworks™, that still takes the same disproportional chunk off of performance. IT is IMPOSSIBLE to optimize for anything goyworks related as it's CLOSED SOURCE, it's literally illegal to do anything with it. The one thing amd managed to do realize that nvidia is using retarded tessellation valuse in the x64 ranges and forced the driver to accept a user defined value, which is most of the time x16 thais by the way a feat taht nvidia still can't accomplish in their ancient driver suite.

>game comes out, everyone including pcfags who didn't play the game shit on it
>it's announced for pc
>PCfags are so happy
Hmm.. picking up scraps I see.

The fact that they call it Windows Edition makes me extremely skeptical about this port. Feels like it's was designed for the Windows store and make it extremely difficult to mod.

>>387957436
>AMD doesn't even have high end GPU's anyway.
lmao
vega 56 beats 1080FE in gameworks titles
fucking nvicucks

>>387958818
>hairworks is the only nvidia tech
>what is fxaa
>what is hbao
>what is vxao
>what is pcss
>what is waveworks
>what is faceworks
>what is nvidia GI

find me an amd produced open source alternate to all of these or fuck off. tressfx is pretty much the only tech amd actually has. all of these make games look nicer and it's your fault you bought a shitty gpu than can't handle the tech that is specifically designed around the architecture of a single product line. i replaced my 390 with a 1070 and couldn't be happier.

keeping amd and being a fanboy to a shit experience is like shilling for xbox in the 8th gen when everyone knows the superior experience lies elsewhere. take your buyers remorse somewhere else.

Pc babies are so funny. They're literally rejoicing over a shitty game's scraps. A game everyone else beat almost a year ago

>>387959752
FXAA is shit though, you should leave that one out

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>>387959813
>>387959650
sour grapes

>>387959734
That GPU is also $1000 compared to the like $400 that the 1080 FE is now

>>387954770
Actually I just have fun playing video games.

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>>387959752
Sorry fampai but Nvidia controls 77% of the GPU market. More like 92% of the market when you factor in live gamers in the Steam hardware survey.

Compound that with Vega being super underwhelming and getting consumed by miners and not gamers, I seriously doubt there is anything to stop developers from focusing on optimizing Nvidia cards as a priority. That is where the customers are. People who buy red are just needless masochists or Linux users.

>>387959752
>hairworks is the only nvidia tech
Never implied anywhere cuck, hairworks is a part of gameworks which is what is being talked about, closed source, cancerous, performnace hogging garbage designed to make older cards struggle and make it impossible for amd to optimize for.
>what is fxaa
Blurry garbage that is inferior in every way to SMAA
>hbao
Nvidia flavor of ovedone SSAO, same ambient occlusion you have in games prior to nvidia putting their name on a flavor of it.
MXAO is the same shit with more customization.
>vxao
Another useless flavor of ssao
>waveworks
Just a shitty closed source veriosn of fucking rendering fluid, something i haven't even heard of before and i'm on a 780ti.
>feaceworks
great tech available to fucking everyone outside of nvidia, no one ever heard of it anyways and every dev just uses subsurface scattering and calls it a day. What the fuck is that even supposed to be? No wonder it wasn't used anywhere
>nvidia GI
gee how fucking great that nvidia put their name next to global illumination and now it's their """innovative"" tech, fucking please
Tbh responding to niggers like you is a waste of time but it's not like there are any good games to play right now

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I guess my poor 1070 won't be able to run it not even at 1080p

>>387960434
even big reviewers like jayztwocents and the number one amd mascot adoredtv are saying they can't recommend amd radeon right now.

>>387960209
What the fuck are you talking about nigger, 56 is $399

PC here. Who cares? This game was crap on console, it's not like being on PC will magically make the game fun to play.

>>387959719
Probably, yeah. They don't care about showing you that 1080 shit though, they want to show off 4/8k footage and requirements.

>>387960807
Sorry I did a one second amazon google search. After searching more you are telling my AMD has finally told the public they are releasing a card matching the 1070 that hasn't even been released as of august 2017. Kind of laughable desu. It's not even out yet

>>387961287
Wiggling liek a little larvate, almost adorable.
It's better tahn a 1080FE
in gameworks titles
stay mad

>>387960721
The recommended specs are for 4K 60fps with all settings on man.

>>387960689
it's actually called VXGI but i forgot the name of it hence why i said nvidias GI. face it, amd are shit, have been shit for the last 5 years and will always be shit. i say this as an ex msi r9 390 gaming x 8g owner. it was a decent gpu but would hit 85C easily and was loud as fuck. driver support around crimson time was fucking abysmal and every driver dev at amd should have been executed. the drivers back then were so bad you couldn't even run gta 5 for more than 30-60 mins at a time without a driver recovery crash. it was a pretty well documented time.

either way, nvidia and all this tech are based as fuck. my gpu can run it perfectly fine and it looks great.

>>387960748
Because they lied about the price, not about the performance.

>>387961401
It's an unreleased card with predicted benchmark specs that match a card thats 30% slower than a 1080 ti FE. Nvidia has moved way past at this point and my argument remains that AMD doesn't have any premium GPU's to mach NVIDIA at this point. I would love for the NVIDIA monopoly to end but the fact of reality is that any top end GPU's being made right now do not belong to AMD

>>387961525
you have to be 14
lmao

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>>387960434
>>387959752
>>387959734
>>387960209
>>387960748
When I die I want Lisa T. Su to lower my coffin so AMD can let me down one more time.

>>387952973

Just hope the port is nice and stable. Has Square done a solid port yet? Even the older games all have some drawback compared to their console counterparts.

>>387961551
The whole debate of graphics cards usually comes down to performance per dollar spent and even after that, NVIDIA always has the top end card no matter what the price. So they are winning the high end market, and the performance market.

>>387961573
It's a card that is physically in reviewers hands you fucking retad.
As to why it comes overvolted to fuck and beyon i do not know.
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/44084-amd-radeon-rx-vega-56-und-vega-64-im-undervolting-test.html
if you undervolt it in drivers and then oc it's faster than a 1080FE while being cooler and consuming less power.
I have no idea why anyone at radeon tecnologies group released that card in such a fucked up state though.
But at least we can count on autistic german to check all there is to check and find stuff liek this

>>387961592
why? i thought you have a 780 ti? why do you suddenly care about amd? that is unless you're lying.

one of my best buddies actually has sli 780 ti's and his experience has been really good over the years even when running one gpu in games which don't support dual gpu's. it's a good gpu, although it has hit a wall in terms of performance that can be further extracted from an already limited architecture.

>>387961816
Dude all the articles I just read say it matches in the power of a GTX 1070, and all of the youtube reviewers like Jayz say its shit for the price. Why are you trying to shill so hard for AMD? I love AMD and have a Ryzen in my pc but their GPU's just suck dick compared to Nvidia right now

>>387955248
>>387955442

There are really only a handful of games that don't come to PC that I'm interested in. All the big multiplats generally release there and generally perform better than their console versions.

There are exceptions of course -- unfortunately most anything released by Square is among them -- but mostly I stick to PC just because I usually get better performance and a better price for a given game in the end.

>>387956704
What's this meme?

>>387961816
you know amd have fucked up when it requires special tweaks (which aren't even reliable with every chip) to get the full performance out of a gpu which is still, even with these extra tweaks, only about 5-10% faster 14 months later.

>>387954248
They still didn't restore superior Episode Duscae lighting

I'm just mad that XV looks nothing like Agni's Philosophy

>>387962029
>DUDE
>my ecelebs told me thing
>so i belive thing
>DUDE
>thinking is for LOSERS, i only repeat what others say
well lhow about the link i sent you?
Did any of your favorite youtube ecelebs undervolt their card? Did any of them then oc it?
Why do i have to think for you you fucking baby

>>387962054
Its all personal preference but a lot of gamers enjoy using a conroller over keyboard/mouse for many reasons and I think a lot of pc gamers don't understand that. Games aren't all about straight graphical/fps performance and only like 5% of games really even benefit from that anyway

>>387962217
They sure did.
It's so bad it looks like sabotage kek.
And no it's not unreliable, polaris cards liek 480 and 470 all undervolted as well.
Sillicone matters when yo uwant to overclock without increasing the voltag, not when downvolting.
You can likely downvolt you card btw, it's something no one ever talks about but nearly every nvidia card cna downvolt for lower temps out of the box too.
This new polaris and now vega shit is completely out of proportion though, how fucking retarded are these peoiple to do something like that

>>387962354
It's not my fault AMD decided to undervolt their card to match a 1070 and then with consumer knowledge of oc'ing make it match a 1080. I don't understand how you don't see that this card is 3 years behind current standards

>>387962450

I play almost exclusively single player games and I have my PC hooked up to my TV and use an X1 controller for everything. PC gaming is really just plug and play nowadays.

>boob physics on cid
might be cool

>>387954038
This just shows us how tech illiterate the average /v/irgin is

>>387962628
I actually do that as well. I use a PS4 controller but I have my PC as a sudo "Steam machine" of windows 8.1 with top of the line specs and just play on my tv with a controller. All of the worthwhile games requiring a mouse are mobas/rts and I hate mulitplayer fps so I enjoy having the graphics and controller

can i turn off all these bullshit i wouldnt notice anyway and just play the game with an average vga?

>>387955248
Are you from a mirror universe?

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>>387959813
>>387959650
Thanks for paying $60 to beta test an unfinished game you worthless sonyiggers.
Im going to get a more complete better looking game for $0 :^)

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>>387954770
FFXV isn't even finished yet
PC version is going to launch with all the DLC, updates & Multiplayer

Honestly it's worth it to wait

>>387955248
>small golden age

What? all Xbone exclusives are on PC & PS4 has had no good exclusives this year except Nioh, which was the biggest FOTM ever

pic related is what 1 Console use to be like, let alone Gamecube & Xbox

>>387962563
>Sillicone matters when yo uwant to overclock without increasing the voltag, not when downvolting.

this isn't correct. the reason these amd cards are overvolted is because it allows them to have better yields per wafer. basically they can throw a fuckload of voltage at every chip and it'll pretty much guarantee that all these chips will work. the tradeoff is the power consumption and heat because increased power to the gpu = heat. the thing with nvidia is that they can pick all the best gp104 chips and label them as gtx 1080 and any which have defects become the gtx 1070 and then the really bad ones go into laptops and shit or whatever which won't be able to sustain high clocks anyway. with vega all the best chips go to the frontier edition which is the $1000 compute card and then the scraps become the rx vega 64 and the even worse chips become the rx vega 56 and they don't want to lose chips so they basically just throw a fuckload of voltage to get the scraps out on the market.

as consumers everything we buy from cpu to gpu to ram to hard drives is the scraps which aren't good enough to get into the enterprise industry.

>>387963027
Steam has been heavily declining and most PC gamers are only into MOBA's and CS'go. Most new games are way more popular and have way more recurring fan bases than PC. Its not even debatable

>>387962590
Kid listen, it's OVERvolt, not undervolt.
Undervolting is what the reviewer did, which was to decrease the card voltage. Overvolting is setting the voltage too high for any given clock.
The basis of how chips work is you increase the clock and then add voltage when it becomes unstable.
The higher quality the chip the lower voltage you need to reach a certain clockspeed.
So now that you know the very basics of what is being talked about you know that amd applied a very high value of voltage for some fuckretarded reason making the card eat loads of power while being hot. The reviewer, being a german autist decided to push the voltage down and found out he can push it quite a lot. He then manually adjusted the card and it became what you see on the benchmarks on the link earlier.
As to the tech those cards are above current nvidia generally, they use much newer memory and are capable of high bandwidth cache.
And with thise voltage adjustments their performance is the same, thoug hi wonder how the 64 version will place.
Top tier nvidia is around a year ahead.

>>387963162
You can't expect all pc ports to be like GTA 5 cause none of them are. Just because the community claims they are "unifnished" doesn't mean the port is going to fix all of the problems

>>387963224
I love how Console fags act like they have good taste & their highest selling games are Bloodborne & Yakuza, but it's actually COD & FIFA & the latter sell like shit

Did nvidia add a competent story as part of gameworks?

Or even an interesting open world?

>>387963232
This is some autistic shit. Any card that takes the tinkering of some random german to the max to make a workable card is not a finished product. After all of this tinkering it still only the power of a 1080 fe for maybe the same price? What the fuck is wrong with amd

>>387963203
Those are assumptions without any base and contrary to recent history.
Polaris showed that amd did set the voltages on all of the retardedly high.
All of the polaris cards were able to downvolt.. How did you miss it.
I would certainly be surprised if those vega cards were not exactly the same,that german review and knowledge of polaris(and previous amd gpus, as in my experience all amd gpus are set too high) is what i base my opinoion off of

>>387952973
just cause its getting a port doesnt mean you have to pretend its a good game

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>console shitters BTFO once again

>>387963712
Sonyfags have been pretending it was for a year

This just reminds me of how meh the main game was.
We're midway through the generation and consoles are still in nogames mode, my ps4 has just as much dust as my wiiu
Thank god for pc

>>387963712
This. It's nothing really to rejoice about. Im more happy that PC gamers will finally realize how shit it is during vanilla.

>>387963550
It's not tinkering to the max lad, it's moving a fucking slider to the left in your driver softwar(you don't have that fuctionality in your nvidia drivers but amd has controls for voltage, clocks and all that in their drivers).
And you are right about the rest, it looks like some half assed unfinished product. I have zero idea what is wrong with them.
All i know is that i'ts not strictly AMD, it's radeon technology group which is supposedly autonomous from amd and underfunded since amd invested their money in ryzen.
With their shekels from ryzen maybe amd will fix taht division, i certainly hope so

>>387963463
0% of console gamers buy FIFA and COD. 100% of console casuals buy FIFA and COD. Steam has Fallout, PUBG, and GTA 5 on their top sellers for the last 2 years so are you defining PC gaming by those 3 games? Grow up the mass will always claim the most popular games and its sad that you don't have any "popular games on steam" that pc can claim as being master race cause no one actually plays them other than autistic eruotrash games

>>387963941
I agree that it is better than amd of the last 5 years for gpu's but you would think that they would have put a lot of money into their division to try and match Nvidia with their new lineup. Its kind of sad and I would have loved for Nvidia to have had a big fuck you but AMD saved it for Intel this time around

>>387963224
Literally everything in that post is wrong. Where do you get your information from? Honest question

>>387963969
your distinction makes no sense because console gamers are casuals by definition

>>387963224
Yeah, all those genres that aren't even on console are way more popular on them
Consoles are literally just "aaa stealth fps for dummies" machines

>>387963969
That's some impressive mental gymnastics to include or exclude people out of groups on your whim - you are literally shaping your perception of the world to what you want to see

>>387964149
Well amd chose CPUs, we will see if that was the right choice, it was certainly the logical one.
Nvidia is recommending AMD cpus with their top cards now.
That is because intel is endangering nvidia.
By focusing intel amd attacks a bigger threat while also using the nvidia-intel struggle.
Attacking nvidia would just give intel and easy chance to kill both amd and nvidia.
And there were little things like amd having loads of experience with multicore designs, chip cutting and having the best cpu chip designers on the planet back for ryzen.

>>387963969
PUBG is better than any Console exclusive except maybe Bloodborne
Sonyfags are extremely jealous of this game, just point out it's not coming to PS4, they get so frustrated

>>387963917
>>387963712
>adored by reviewers and fans alike
>/v/ consistantly memed and praised everything but the ending of the game
>"lol tfw pc babies will never experience dis game xD"
>superior version is announced for PC
>"I-it was always shit!"
Everytime

>>387964235
Steam made about 1.4 billion in 2014 from games
Steam made about 3.5 billion in 2015 from games
Steam made about 3.5 billion in 2016 from games

Sources
https://www.polygon.com/2017/1/6/14184200/steam-top-selling-games-2016

http://gearnuke.com/steam-sales-2015-valve-generated-total-3-5-billion-paid-games/

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/46666/report-valve-rakes-1-5-billion-revenue-steam-sales-2014/index.html

If you really need more information I can spoon feed it for you. Console gaming is killing Steam recently and rightfully so cause nothing exclusive has come to pc

>>387963224
>Most new games are way more popular and have way more recurring fan bases than PC.
AHAHHAHAHAHAHA
Nigger, there were 260 million consoles sold last gen.
This gen we'll be lucky to hit 150 million, even including Switch AND WiiU.

>>387964496
Agreed I definitely think it was the good decision to jump onto CPU's but now is the time to see what AMD is made of and to see if they can compete with the big boys of Nvidia too since they have killed Intel's stock with Ryzen

>>387964741
Nigga please.
That game is far too fresh everyone remembers the damn shittalking and epik pics of GRAFICS in this game with my fave still being water """""reflections"""".
Barely anyone called it good because it's not that good a game.
At least we'll get hi res cid with some saucy mods hopefully

>>387964149
Nvidia wins where it matters.

Low power and heat out of the box? Rebuilt vendors will buy it up

High end enthusiast tier performance? Richfags and YouTuber will buy it up

Fancy technologies like gameworks and recent stuff like auto highlights in shadowplay? Console kiddies will transition and buy it up

Nvidia is just better where it matters and that can't be argued. They don't rest on their laurels either and provide big price/performance and perf/watt upgrades every generation so it will be extremely hard for AMD to best them unless they have the budget of some one like Intel. AMD managed to catch Intel because Intel sat around doing nothing for years which allowed AMD to target a specific level of performance whereas Nvidia keeps breaking the boundaries of performance. I bet not even AMD expected Nvidia to have something as beastly as the 1080 ti. Iirc the Vega gpu is actually bigger than the gpu of the 1080 ti and that says a lot about how far Nvidia is ahead.

>>387964896
Wii U is discontiuned so I guess thats a nice 0 number added to that statistic. If you owned a console and a pc like some people you would realize the community difference even in games like Overwatch which are considered "esports" and pouluar

>>387964998
Well even with a tiny budget they were competing just fine, no idea where you got that from.
290x was the fastest GPU on the planet for a fraction of the price of a titan and no one remembers it for some reason

>>387965215
>Wii U is discontiuned so I guess thats a nice 0 number added to that statistic.
14 million.
>If you owned a console and a pc
I owned every last gen console and a WiiU, RIP.
My brother also has a PS4, and the console community is still just as shit as ever from what I've played, ESPECIALLY in multiplayer games with voice chat, my fucking god, if I hear one more wigger doing a bong rip I'm going to lose it.

Hopefully someone will mod the magic so that it isn't god awful and actually fun to use

>>387952973
>170GB

disregarding the fact that my australian-tier internet will make the download like two weeks, the game is just not worth that much space on my HDD

Doesn't stop a shit unfinished game from being shit and unfinished

>>387965202
Prebuilt*

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>170 GB

>>387965368
Are you saying 14 million people are going to buy a wii u in the next year? Can I purchase whatever drug you are using?

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>>387965202
>Low power and heat out of the box? Rebuilt vendors will buy it up
OEMs are literally irrelevant in the modern era.
Nvidia makes most of their money from gaming GPUs being sold through AIB partners.

>>387965479
Are you retarded?
The WiiU has sold 14 million units, that number is added to the total consoles sold statistic.
Like I said, I doubt we'll even see 150 million total consoles sold this gen.
Hell, if you include handhelds, last gen sold over 500 million units, you think this gen, even WITH handhelds, will hit anywhere near that?

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>>387965202
pleeease don't post anymore i can't take ittt
>AMD managed to catch Intel because Intel sat around doing nothing for years which allowed AMD to target a specific level of performance
STOOOP i'm literally shaking why do you have to spew this shit fucking christ kill me

>>387962450
>a lot of gamers enjoy using a conroller over keyboard/mouse

Why are console gamers so dumb?

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>>387952973
>more grass and a new Instagram filter option

>>387965521
Because people normally just use intel's integrated graphics.

>>387965787
Do you not know what an OEM is?

>>387955821
>sweeping generalizations but is proven the case time and time again

>>387965605
You are focusing on console units sold though. Total PC games sold has been stagnant or declining for almost 2 years. You better check your team before you make fun our consoles. We will prob won't reach the n64/gamecube numbers that consoles had before custom pcs got really popular but they got really popular and went nowhere. Thats something you should think about everyone bought a pc and then did nothing with it and now console sales are increasing while pc sales are stagnant or decreasing

The Gameworks shit is so nice & gives you a taste of Next gen, it's a shame more games don't use it

I don't get why AMDfags get angry about it either, just turn it off, you still get better visuals/performance than Consoles

Also FFXV has FP16 support, so Vega will perform a bit better than Pascal outside of Gameworks

>>387965521
There are aib partner gpu in many prebuilts now though for Nvidia after the founders edition became discontinued.

>>387965726
Any single player game is better with a controller and multiplayer games are more enjoyable without being able to rage with my keyboard but maybe thats just me getting older

>>387965994
>Total PC games sold has been stagnant or declining for almost 2 years.
And total console games sold has been declining for 4 years, what's your point?
Let's be honest m8, console gaming is on its way out, the only console not selling like shit is the PS4 (too early to tell with the Switch), and 1 console does not an industry make.
PC gaming has been "dying" for 25 years now, just give it up, it's not happening.
On the plus side, I see M$ and $ony continuing their current path of just releasing upgraded boxes every few years, basically making their consoles glorified prebuilt PCs, unfortunately, Sony is borderline retarded, and will likely drag their vidya division under with all the shit decisions they make in their other divisions, and they can't sustain AAA games and their budgets on an ever-shrinking market.
That said, the death of the AAA cash cow will be a net positive for people who actually care about games not nickel and diming the shit out of them.

>>387966210
>I don't know what an OEM is
Tell me anon, how do you think Nvidia gets any money from OEM partners?
You think it has something to do with OEMs putting their GPUs in the prebuilts they sell?

>>387966231

How is a controller not an option for PC? Hell, I still use my shitty DS3 for my laptop. Why do people still believe PC players are limited to keyboard and mouse?

>>387966327
PC gaming has only been profitable for like 5-6 years? When did skyrim come out. Other than that it was a niche industry. It became more popular and then it failed. PS4, Switch, and (oh my gosh) even Xbone have been profitable. You can't judge pc gaming based on total sales because the majority of the games end up in losses cause they are shit games

>>387966625
>PC gaming has only been profitable for like 5-6 years?
PC gaming has been profitable for 20+ years, otherwise people wouldn't make PC games.
Hell, Blizzard became a household name because of PC gaming.
>PS4, Switch, and (oh my gosh) even Xbone have been profitable.
Kek, no they haven't, Sony and M$ have both lost money on their consoles, Nintendo almost always posts a profit though.

>>387966570
I'm with you on that but the whole philosophy of the pc master race is stressing the kb/m combo and I personally use a high end cpu with ironically to your post a ps3 controller cause for some fucked up reason I like it

>>387966404
What the fuck are you talking about? Nvidia makes money from selling the actual gpu chip to aib partners and they can do whatever they want with it from making custom pcb to putting it in laptops like Asus.

>>387966793

I like PC because I have more options on how I want to play (Any controller I want), cheaper cost for games in the long run and free online minus paying for the internet and able. I have no reason to go back outside of exclusives which eventually come out on PC anyway.

>>387952973
prob the only FF ill even care about slightly just because it isn't shitty turn based combat, even then i still won't buy it, day 1 pirate.

>>387966791
PC gaming wasn't even close to profitable until one company made a monopoly of it 16 years ago (Blizzard). Doom didn't even make that much money and it was the pinnacle of pc gaming. Stop speaking out of your ass. Other than Blizzard I can't think of any company that has made mass amounts of money on only pc gaming (activision, bungie, ubisoft, nintendo, naughtydog, ea, koei) I would list more but I don;t feel like it. Think about it in the last 20 years no pc "gaming" company has made a lot of money only console companies other than Blizzard of course which is our lord and savior

>>387967238
>PC gaming wasn't even close to profitable until one company made a monopoly of it 16 years ago (Blizzard)
Stopped reading there.
Half the series and companies making games today got their start on PC.
Even major AAA games like Call of Duty were originally PC exclusives.

i mean, consoles are gimped pc's. nothing new here to anyone with half a brain.

>>387967547
Slightly Profitable and Actually Profitable are two major things. I don't think you realize how niche gaming was 15 years ago and any casual people who did partake sure as hell did not partake on pc. PC has only become popular as of late because people has disposable income and want the best in technology but they are finding out that the gameplay of a game on a $200 system is the same a $2000 system and that gameplay is more important to game dev that nvidia hairworks

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>game is so shit not even sonybros liked it
>threads everyday shitting on it
>comes to pc
>FUCKING GREATEST GAME EVER
Pathetic.

>>387967991
PC gaming is getting more popular and more profitable because more people around the world play on PC, especially in Asia.
As for western PC gaming, it's gained HUGE popularity stateside, whereas consoles have fallen since last gen, with one of the big 3 basically dying off in the home console space.
Considering the current projections, I don't see consoles as they are now remaining a thing for very long, I wouldn't be surprised if Sony follows MS's footsteps with the whole games as a service thing and just makes their own Playstation Store branded console that shares games with PC.
That's basically already what's happening with a lot of modern games anyways.

>>387968276

They're half way there with PlayStation now despite it being garbage, it shows where they're heading. nobody cares about their bs hardware anyway. We just wanna play the games.

>>387953942
Sasuga Tabata

This entire thread consists of 3 types of people:

>Sony-gger falseflaggers who pretend they're going to pirate
These are the people who think developers/publishers actually read threads on /v/ and are the first line of people who will feed me (You)'s.

>PC-unt falseflaggers who pretend they're butthurt Sony-ggers
People who like to pretend that this is some great victory, but can't get that satisfaction without there being a clear "losing" side, so they pretend to be that side themselves.

>3rd world subhumans and Australians (the "and" might be a little optimistic) who are shitposting for all they're worth because they're too poor to buy the game or pay for good internet
Pretty self explanatory, and another great reason why all of Australia should just get one big range-ban.

Interesting enough, the one type of person that's the rarest in this thread:

>The Final Fantasy 15 fan who's genuinely excited to play FF15: I Look Presentable Now Edition
None of the three actual fans of this game have found this thread yet.

>>387956481
Too bad SFM creators will never improve their animations.

>>387955013
>>387954670
I don't mind playing on console settings 30fps and gtx 760 will run that with no trouble.

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Posting the AMD version

>170 GB
Just gonna pirate a repack instead.

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>>387969293
Best post ITT

>>387969012

I thought the game was just okay. Is it worthy of "fans?"

I plan to pick it up but I haven't yet since I don't own a PS4.

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>>387954670

>>387969407

Oh I've met like, one person on /v/ who was almost crusader-like in his blind defense of it. So I'm sure they exist, but I'm not willing to bet there's more than like, maybe half-a-handful of them.

>>387969506
>Oh I've met like, one person on /v/ who was almost crusader-like in his blind defense of it
Dude that's XV-kun. He's famous around here in how much he shills XV.

>waifu dies
>can't bang Cindy

Is being Noctis suffering?

>>387955970
>you all decided to hate TW3 for some reason when the definitive version was on PC
>for some reason
>visually obvious downgrades due to consoles

>1080Ti

Now I know you're all going to point, laugh, and scream poorfag, but aren't the owners of a fucking 1080ti insanely limited?

And considering this cards alone essentially costs twice as much as the consoles the game was originally made for, doesn't this scream of horrible optimization?

Is this some not-so-subtle way to sell PS4s to a crowd that would otherwise not consider them?

>>387969575

Heh I know the guy. Constant webm-spamming and FF15-can-do-no-wrong attitude? Yeah but this wasn't him (I think).

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>>387969587
Being in that shit game is suffering enough.

>>387969764
1080Ti is for 4k60.
I expect actual requirements to be around a GTX 760 or R9 270x if you want decent performance at 1080p.

>>387952973

>director said that if the game was to come to the PC, he wanted to remake it to take advantage of all the PC tech instead of having made the game only for consoles and optimized just about everything in his vision out because shit hardware
>game coming to PC is a PS4 Pro port with Nvidia optimizations

Its fucking worthless. Its got ALL the flaws of the PS4/Pro game except with higher framerate, more LOD on all objects, and a far better resolution. Whoop de fucking do.

>>387969407
All that's required to have "fans" these days is to have "Final Fantasy" in the title. Quality plays second fiddle to brand recognition.

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>>387969764
>Is this some not-so-subtle way to sell PS4s to a crowd that would otherwise not consider them?

>>387969930
Tabata has been ousted as a lying cunt a dozen times already. Is anyone really surprised by another lie?

>4k VR nude mods

fucking WHEN

>>387969916

Let's hope so. The 170gb filesize is enough to make some people cringe (remember when file-compression was a big deal?), but expecting us to own the most bleeding-edge GPU out there to meet "recommended" specs is nothing short of insanity.

I run a double 980 sli and I don't see myself upgrading for this game.

>>387952973
>IOs port
Are they even bothering to listen to the fans anymore? No one wants multiple ports of a convoluted mess. Add all the cool shit from the survey and then start porting it.

Or better yet just put this bitch to rest and use the profits to make the next game or FFXIIIVersus.

>>387970207
>170 gb

Is this real? Holy shit. And you realize 80% of the open world is empty right?

>>387970081

>lying

He didn't like you dumb nigger. He stated that if the port was to come to PC, he WANTED to remake it. Not that he was ABLE to remake it.

After the completely massive waste of money that FFXV has been, mostly in part due to the constant engine rewrites that the game went through coupled with multiple beta events and other optimization challenges. FFXV PC is basically a "here's the PS4 Pro port with some added Nvidia bells and whistles that cost practically nothing in the grand scheme of things, and thanks to the 70% profit margins per sale on Steam, we'll easily make back a huge chunk of the development cost within the first 6-12 months of launch."

I will be shocked if he gets to direct another triple-A title ever again. Nomura may have been a perfectionist with every little detail in the game, which in-itself is no doubt expensive. But all his game demos were polished as fuck and very well optimized--for what little they were.

>>387960205
someone actually drew this.

>>387953081
the really shitty ones will appear almost instantly, someone is always really quick to glue a nipple they drew in ms paint onto a girl

>>387970358

There are people on this fucking place who have multi-gig folders of people shitting both in images, gifs, webms, and videos.

A crappy bait-tier drawing is the least of concerns.

>>387960205
How is PC version scraps when its superior in everyway

>>387952973
so how long until the re-remaster of FF15 is rereleased on console again

>>387970312

Isn't that always the case? We totally need 170 gb of grass textures.

>>387970609
inb4 it's just native 4k cutscene in 32 languages

>make a supposed next-gen video game engine for state of the art visuals
>looks like shit on PS4/Xbone
>End up using nVidia middleware out the ASS to 'pretty' up the PC port

>>387970657

It probably is too. Uncompressed for that sweet 4k screen no one fucking owns yet.

Oh and of course the music is at 128kbs :^)

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>>387969176
buy a fucking console then you shitter. you are just as fucking bad.

>>387970427
reminds me of when fallout 4 first came out

>>387970804

>make fantastic engine with a fully integrated PBR, agent based AI, physically modeled world with wind, water, weather, time of day
>couple it with one of the best lighting render paths in the industry
>develop it on a target box with a 680 SLI
>i7 CPU
>16GB of DDR3
>runs the game at 60fps+ @ 1080p
>looks stunning

>now have to make it work on the PS4 hardware
>which is about 1/8th the capability
>cut and cut and cut and cut
>shit the bed
>optimize and optimize and optimize and optimize
>shit the bed
>cut and cut and cut and cut
>shit the bed

>PS4 Pro comes out
>optimize and optimize and optimize and optimize
>shits the bed only 30% of the time

All Square Enix had to do was make the game for PC, release it for PC, and scale it down for consoles 6-8 months later by leveraging all the knowledge from the PC release with bug fixes and optimization for low/med/high targets. Instead, they developed on GTX TITANS and tried to port it down onto a PS4 over the many years and continually failed.

Its utterly mind boggling. Every major multi-plat title is developed on PC for PC, and then scaled down to consoles. Meanwhile the fucking Jap devs go "PC? Primary? Release? Fuck that, we will bet our entire company on the PS4 while using workstations that are 25x more powerful and if it takes us 15 years, so be it!"

>>387956481
>Including Stella

>>387971257
How did KojiPro make MGSV? They should've taken that approach. That game fully utilizes each and every platform.

>>387971465
They had the same guy make the same game for almost 20 years.

Even if it were free I wouldn't want it again after playing that hunk of shit and nearly getting plat on my ps4.

>game comes with all DLCs bundled

So PS4cucks are literally doing early access for us.

>>387971465

He made it for PC and scaled it down to consoles. That's why the engine is so well optimized. The benefit of making your game for PC FIRST, is that you when you make it for the best hardware; you aim to optimize it to use as much of a system as possible. As a result of this endeavor, you know exactly what kind of hardware you need to run X, Y, and Z entities on screen.

And then you know exactly WHAT to tweak in order for it to scale down to lower graphical fidelity while maintaining a target resolution/framerate + gameplay viability.

Which results in your low/medium/high/ultra settings. Low/Medium gets you XB1/PS4. Medium/High gets you PS4 Pro/Xbox Scorpio and High/Ultra gets you basically PC. With a single platform, you can optimize for the entire industry.

And what you SHOULD BE DOING is releasing the game on PC first. Then letting it sit there for 6-8 months where you do nothing but bug fixes and optimization patches. After 8 months, then you begin porting over to consoles. This way the absolute best version of the game gets released to the market, where its prone to effectively no crashes, is well optimized, and the experience is smooth and engaging.

Instead what happens, with majority of Japanese developers, is that they prioritize the console over the PC. Which results in sub30fps titles, with a myriad of issues ranging from framerate to physics, collision, warped animation sequences; trigger scripts going out of sync, crashes--and the list goes on and on.

Ironically, if they released it for PC first and let it generate sales for 8 months, then port it down to consoles; their revenue and profit margins would skyrocket. Instead, they waste immense amount of monies by prioritizing consoles first, and then spend even more money in porting it back to PC after the engine has become a shell of its former self due to "optimization" and "cuts". Ultimately leading to additional licensing to Nvidia/AMD for middleware solutions to replace what was axed.

>>387971938

The best example of this is Doom 2016, Battlefield 1, MGSV, and The Witcher 2. All titles that were made on PC, for PC, and scaled down to console hardware. They all run exceptionally well despite limitations, and their visual fidelity is uncontested within their respective genres--while still maintaining the exact same level of gameplay across all target platforms.

>>387958818
All I see here is 'wahh wahh a different company is doing better than the one I like!!'

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>>387968028
>Game is so great even sonybros and xbros both love it
>threads everyday praising while laughing at shitposters trying to shit on it
>comes to PC
>Still a great game now better which everyone recognizes
>shitposter still tries to pretend its bad
top lul

Bow before your King, peasant.

>>387971128
nah fuck consoles, all i have to do is upgrade to 1060 and i'm good for another 5 years

>>387971830

Yes, but they get a nice nogaems machine and to pay for all that sweet DLC too.

>>387973396
Could you lie anymore in one post? The game is universally touted as disappointing and having poor story telling. The only people who like it to a higher degree than just "it was okay" are the same crowd who eat up Ubisoft Open World garbage and haven't played an FF before.

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>>387969930
>>387970081
Stop being a retard, he never lied and he literally said the PC version would include stuff they couldn't implement because of consoles, such as VXAO, all the turf works/upgraded grass, upgraded shadows, 4k textures, upgraded lighting, upgraded hair/fur, upgraded performance aka 60fps at fucking 4k etc

He never once lied and all the stuff mentioned at GDC for the Nvidia stuff too is all part of it.

They promised full mod support. Hoping it stays that way.

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Feels good to be a pc gamer.

>>387973707
So we're fighting Cerberus in Lestallum with destruction physics now? Damn, guess Tabata isn't a manipulative lying gook afterall

>>387973396
man punished noctis is easily the best protag design they've done in ff

any money ff16 protag is gonna be a skinny teen fuccboi instead of looking like a man

>>387973665
Keep telling yourself that, liar.

>>387973987
Fuck off Barry. It must feel like shit to have the everyone against you in light of a messy, unfinished game and it's constant shameless milking.

>>387971128
Upgrading is the biggest meme ever, there is little to no difference between 30 and 60fps
And most graphic settings don't even change anything. Stop wasting money on useless hardware you dumb fuck.

>>387973707
>4k textures

>>387973975
Yes we most likely are in the multiplayer which will utilize lestallum and takes place in the world of ruin and you can play as the bros in it

Tabata stated that cerberus in lestallum footage was just part of a tech test they were doin, offroad regalia was in that same footage same as the upgraded grass, fire, fur/hair and lighting

>>387974257
BidKlues detected

>>387973816
>full

This is very relative.

Total Warhammer technically has "full" mod support, but they're not allowed to import textures for example. Despite that their Steam-workshop is a thriving place.

My point is that it's easy to place down limitations, and of course it will live and die on what modding tools it gets. Unless someone is willing to MAKE modding tools (which is not unheard of), Square is going to have to make their own.

I'm not saying they won't but I'm saying that the reason I have my doubts is based on their previous track record.

>>387974257
What's it like having shit taste?

>>387974257
He's right though.

>>387974342
>we most likely are
>in the multiplayer

Wow, so not only did he lie, but this feature is also locked behind a season pass too now? Le based Tabby best gook in da world !!!1

> game was already in 4k for ps4 pro
> pc mustards think they are the first to get 4k

>first person view

Pardon? Who the fuck wants to play FF in poorly implemented first person?

>>387974993
>Who the fuck wants to play FF in poorly implemented first person?

nvidiots do, that's why it's a special feature for them.

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>>387974989
>ps4
>4k

>>387974989
> game was already in 4k for ps4 pro
> 4k
> ps4
> pro
> space between memearrow and implication

>>387974747
What did he lie about? Seriously BidKlues I'm asking what the fuck you think he somehow lied about.

>>387974989
it's 1800p on the high setting on ps4 pro

it does native 4k on pc

>>387974993
it's to look at stuff in 1st person

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>>387975605

>>387975481
Is this another boogeyman, barry? How many are you at now?

>>387974989
>PS4
>4K
pick one and only one

>>387974993
people who run into walls to stare at the textures

>>387975834

Can't fault them for knowing their audience.

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>>387961720
Wait a minute, amd's ceo surname is T.SU?

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I own a bad ass PC and i just bought a shitty PS4 for dragon quest. kek

unrelated question, is ff15 same way as all other jrpg? no matter that weapons,clothes you get appearance of characters doesn't change?

recommended 1080ti
ok gookmen, at least try with the optimisation tho

>>387977416
170Gb download, it cuts off everyone from australia and USA

>>387977519
wait for the repack my man

What a great idea for a shit game...

>>387977570
I don't care I can download 170Gb in 8 hours
I'm not buying this game though, gay band doesn't appeal to me.

>>387977519
>this is what 3rd-worlders actually believe

>>387977519
...? I download off steam at 40mb/s in burgerland.

>>387952973
>Literally exactly the fucking same, except for the resolution and a bunch of shit you'd need a direct, side-by-side comparison to notice

Noice

>>387978983

Amazing perspective there fellow PS4™ player!

>>387966147
>The Gameworks shit is so nice & gives you a taste of Next gen
Lmao tressfx is nextgen???
Consoles already have tressfx.
Next gen will be about real time GI and ray tracing, not some shitty gimmicks tanking your FPS just so you have to buy the latest nvidia gpu.

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>>387953081
ditto

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>>387961720

DELET DIS

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>>387979419
AHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>387973834
ikr

>>387954940
Hairworks looks really fucking good on the monsters in witcher 3 though. You're doing yourself a disservice if you don't use it.

>>387968028
>FUCKING GREATEST GAME EVER
Literally no one is saying this though.

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>>387964831
>steam has been heavily declining
>show no decline

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>>387964831

>>387971938
>And what you SHOULD BE DOING is releasing the game on PC first. Then letting it sit there for 6-8 months where you do nothing but bug fixes and optimization patches. After 8 months, then you begin porting over to consoles
This isn't even remotely realistic, especially not for Japanese games.

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>>387969293
Such bullshit. Square Enix sold us out.

>>387969293
is this TF2

>>387975689
Oh this damage control, maybe when you stop stalking and shitposting on my twitter you wouldn't be getting name dropped here

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>>387977316
accessories doesn't change appearance/show up but you do have alternate outfits that have stat changes
weapons you equip show up when using/summoning them

>>387977416
that's for 4k

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>>387952973
I WANT TO WEAR HER HAT

Final Fantasy 15 Won't Be 170GB On PC

Alex Walker
Aug 23, 2017, 10:30am
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Image: NVIDIA / Square Enix
While it's great that Final Fantasy 15 is coming to PC, one of the things that isn't so great was the headlines warning about the game's install size.
Shortly after Square Enix and director Hajime Tabata announced that FF15 was getting a PC release, people started to panic about the game's install size. And that wasn't through any fault of the press: the figure came from a press release put out by Square Enix themselves, which also listed the pricey GTX 1080 Ti as part of the "recommended specs".

But in a chat with Tabata at Gamescom, the veteran developer confirmed that the listing of the hard drive space was a "miscommunication", as was the recommended specs that had gone out to press.

"That was a mistake, actually," Tabata said through a translator. "That was a communications mistake - something got put in a memo that really shouldn't have. What that is [the specifications that went out to press] based on the specs that we're running the demo on today."

"Again, the final specs for the release version haven't been fixed yet. There's a very good chance they can change. Someone put that in there and it got reported as the recommended specs, but that's not the final fixed version. The fact that it became that number is a communication [error]."

Tabata went on to say that the demo machines were running at 4K using GTX 1080 Ti cards, but the minimum specs would go down "at least as far as the same level as the console edition, maybe looking to going even further than that in future". "But we've not fixed the frame rate at 30 frames at all - it's just on the 1080 Ti, that's the maximum that one can do [at 4K], so that's what it's doing at the moment."

>>387954664
Jokes on you, faggot. I have a PC also.