Can someone explain to me why every new 2D fighter for the last

>>387886627
>what are anime air dashers
branch out more pleb

Muh entry barrier

>>387886627
and what could they add to improve your experience, faggot?

I fucking wish they wanted to be Super Turbo. All the new games have so much bullshit attached that they completely lose what made ST good.

>implying sf5 didn't drop everything that made 2 solid

>>387886662
Useless feature that nobody uses in game

>>387886662
Not him
When your options are
>Street Fighter wannabes
>Anime Fighters
and only rarely
>experimental shit like Smash and Divekick
There's a problem

>>387886840
t.old cunt

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>>387886627
Cry more shitter

>>387886840
How about not making games that are trying to make it look like they are running at 15fps on purpose because "muh tradition"

Are fighting game players adaptable like they say they are or do they just want reskins of 30 year old playstyles.

https://youtu.be/yhGjCzxJV3E

>>387886627
>BlazBlue
>Guilty Gear
>Skull Girls
>Arcana Heart
>Mahvel
Anything like SF2

>>387886627
Cause your a shallow fag afraid to go out of whatever sort of gay bubble you are in who is also biased and dumb as fuck to boot.

>>387886995
Thats not the problem though, the problem is faggots only want to play fighting games like this

https://youtu.be/kCnNnSiMoKs

Then they make it look like its animation is from specific 2D fighters from 30 years ago. They literally gimp 3D models to look like 2D fighters from 3 decades ago because the FGC just wants another reskin. At least games like Budokai Tenkaichi 2 fucking TRIED to do something new.

>>387887021
>the all still do that shit where characters freeze on hit

Yeah, they all want to be SFII at their mosr base of base. At least some games have tries to move away from the only 2D formula that exists. You might be able to add features and mechanics to these games anon, but they are still at their core trying to suck SFII's cock for eternity. Why else can anons pick up a 2D fighter they have never played before and just start using all the base mechanics of SF?

>>387887346
You have a really specific and limited idea of what ST is like.

>>387887502
Imagine a game comes out that has all the base mechanics of say Tekken, the "limb based combat" and "air jugles" but then new games come out that "deffo isn't just Tekken bro's! Look! No heihachi!" But this happens for the next 30 years every 3D fighter that comes out.

>>387887664
that's a shit hypothetical because all 3d fighters are the fucking same reskinned game.

>>387887664
Does it play like tekken though? And which tekken?

>>387887346
I can assure you that ST and anime are about as opposite as it gets in fighting games.

I have never met an anime player who wasn't completely trash at ST, or vice versa.

>>387886627
>Seriously, im seeing 2D games in 2017 coming out gimping themselves to look and play the way 2D fighters did 30 years ago.
Tell me how they're gimped.

>>387887827
>we make modern 3D models
>but this looks too slick
>so we LIMIT the animation
>now it looks like the ild shit you played in 1996
>only it's 2017

WOULDN'T WANT TO UPSET THE AUTISTS, CHANGE TRIGGERS THEM.

https://youtu.be/BAXQ6HaRG8s

There is no reason for a 60fps game to actually pretend it's running at 15fps other than "thats just how pld 2D fighters looked" it isnmt 1996 anymore.

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>>387886627
>platform genre jumping to point 1 to B for over 30 years.

>Fps shooting and reloading sucking dick Doom dick for over 20 years

>>387887747
>BR is the same as SC and Tekken

>>387887747
False, i think we can agree that say DBZ budokai Tenkaichi (a 3D fighter) is not like Tekken.

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>>387888146
>autist "gamurrr" who found out about Arcsys 3D game from gamescon and got entirely btfo in previous thread makes new one to gather more autist to circlejerk

seems about right. everything was explained on the previous DBFZ thread, you not liking it is probably the blunder of the century in your mind but dont worry, everyone else will like and play the shit out of it

>>387888306
Different, other than the new doom, modern shooters are not trying as hard as they can to have the mechanics of og DOOM. A fighter can be a fighter without being SF. Tekken is not SF. Neither os SC or even the UFC games say, in fact to try and say "the genre is Street Fighter" just shows the problem. Faggots here actually ask,
>if i want to get into fighting games should i play SFV or tekken 7?
NO YOU FAGGOT. THEY DON'T EVEN PLAY THE SAME. WHAT A BROAD AND DUMB QUESTION.

>>387888656
>retards sticking to their guns about muh nostalgia is me getting BTFO

Enjoy this thread i guess. No doubt you will stick around.

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>>387886627
Because you actually don't know anything about those games and don't play them

>>387886662
Those are ripoffs of pic related :)

>>387888784
>muh nostalgia
started with SF4 actually, what now autist?

>>387887346
>game has hitstun
>it's a SFII clone
lol

>>387888905
>akuma and Eliza are basically 2D fighters in Tekken
>ONLY they have this bizzare freeze fram animation when they strike or hit an opponent
>none of the actuall Tekken characters have it

Yeah anon, sure is not a 2D specific thing at all that is outdated as fuck.

>>387886870
Fucking this.

Only Sirloin's game can deliver us from this hell.

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>>387887163
>>387888146
Are you seriously whining about how a dbz game made by arcsys looks stylistically like the anime?
I don't even understand what point your shitty bait is trying to make.

>>387888895
Look, maybe im raging here, but i am fed up with the way the only fighters anyone wants to talk about all play and look like 2D fighters from the early 90's. Seriosuly, no really ever gives a fuck about DBZ games, not really, suddenly this new one comes out trying its best to look like an ild fighter and /v/ can't suck its nuts fast enough.

>>387889095
The anime didn't look as slow as this game does. Just looks jarring to me.

>>387886627
super turdbo is kuso, the only thing that games steal is motions and the idea of 1vs1 fights

>>387889059
>>387886870
BASED SIRLOIN WILL SAVE THE FGC

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>>387889164
Maybe people like 2D fighting games like Marvel vs. Capcom.
Weird proposition, I know, people actually enjoying a videogame.

>>387889095
His shitty point effectively boils down to WHY USE 2D WHEN THERE'S A WHOLE NEW THIRD DIMENSION? WHY MAKE YOUR MODELS LOOK LIKE SPRITES BECAUSE SPRITES ARE SHIT BECAUSE THEY'RE OLD.

>>387889228
The anime is drawn at the same shitty 24fps maximum like any other.
The games' animations actually look smoother for the most part, you're just remembering it wrong.
I will admit arcsys has a specific animation style that might look a bit odd to anyone new to them. But that has NOTHING to do with 90's animations or anyone trying to copy them.

>>387889164
Because the Budokai games suck and this one seems good?

>>387889439
>WHY USE 2D WHEN THERE'S A WHOLE NEW THIRD DIMENSION
Because no matter how much of a boner you have for tenkaichi, anime models in 3d look like abominations.

>>387889164
Sounds like a personal problem of you not liking fighting games in general. Might even stem from you getting your ass handed to you from experienced players. OP and the rest of your posts reek of "casual" mindsets that fighting games need to have 0 execution so everyone can play them. Its this line of thinking that made SFV, a massive turd nobody, not even casuals like because they still get their ass handed to them.

The execution, the grind, the investment in learning complex mechanics are part of what makes these games so great. If you dont like those and just want to pummel on textures you just like brawlers, a different genre of games.

Being constricted in the 2D plane is what made these games have creative mechanics to compensate and resulted in great games with depth. Again, if you cant understand that you dont want to play fighting games and should probably direct your interest to arena brawlers like nu-Dissidia or Gundam arena games.

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listen you fucking bagel, they're not trying to 'look like the same fighting game for the past 30 years' the games you're specifically bitching about [xrd and dbfz] are made to look like fucking cartoons. The cel-shaded look made using 3-D models so it looks crisp no matter how close to the camera it is, dramatic angles, stylistic smear effects for motion blur, low framerate, they're not 'gimping themselves to look like a clone of the same fighting game because no one's afraid of change'

they're using increasingly better technology to make what you're playing look more and more like an action-packed anime fight scene.


How could you be so fucking dense just shut the fuck up damn

>>387889548
"Budokai tenkaichi" i said anon, and what a fucking suprise, those ones "sucked" but give a genric 2D fighter that you have played a million times before a DBZ skin and it's suddenly 10/10 GOAT before it's even out. hmmm, HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Anime was never meant for the third dimension
This isn't just a fighter problem

>>387889439
Actually, DO make 2D sprite work, but is there any reason it needs to emualte the specific limitations of 2D sprite work from 20 years ago?? The funniest thing is, its actually just 3D anyway kek

>>387889439

Because 3D fighters sucks.

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>>387886627
Step aside OP

The savior of the FG

>>387889787
it's emulating 2d art aka cartoons you butt munch

>>387889680
Have you even played older fighting games yourself? Cause modern arcsys sprite emulation is far ahead of whatever was possible back then. If budokai and tenkaichi devs had the resources and talent to make their 3d engine look exactly like the anime they would have done so without a doubt.

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>>387889613
>>387889812

Don't (You) at me, I'm translating the faggot's opinion into a more digestible state. His opinion basically boils down to "these games with 3d models act like old 2d games and I don't like that because I hate 2d games."

>>387889787
It's a style choice. They wanted their game to look 2D but sprites are outdated and cost too much for an end result that the public sees as outdated. The 3D models look smooth as fuck, and the intentionally janky animations look like something out of anime.

>>387890131
wrong person
>>387889787

>>387886627
Because games that surpass SFII in terms of competitive viability (i.e. melee) get ridiculed and abandoned by the FGC so people just make games closer to what the FGC wants.

And the FGC is bankrolled by Capcom

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>>387889680
>give a genric 2D fighter that you have played a million times before a DBZ skin
Just because you don't know how to play the game, it doesn't mean it's the same as every other 2D fighting game

Systems like Dragon Rush replacing grabs, forced neutral starts at character knockout, and a dedicated meter charge immediately differentiate it from Marvel 3, it's closest competitor. It's even further different from Infinite.

The pseudo-2D artstyle is meant to replicate the sharp, flat style and frame by frame control of classic animation (like smears or deformation) whilst keeping the scalability and ease of use 3D models apply.

I explained as such earlier in another thread you fucking autist.

>>387886889
Retard confirmed

>>387890185
As an ardent fan of competitive Melee, Smash probably could have earned a competitive following and not been ridiculed as a whole if the developers actually tried to appeal to their competitive players.

Instead they used Brawl to tell them off, leaving people who loved Melee for what Melee had under the surface looking like autists sticking to a dead game.

Also, the Smash 4 playerbase is a bit whiny, which doesn't help much either.

>>387886995
I miss the pretzel. I found it easier to do fast than his new input.

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Can't wait to style on scrubs with my villain all-star team. frieza cell kid buu
Playing some GGxrdr2 to get into the mood.

>>387886627

Do you have a fucking idea about how incredibly popular SF2 was? It even got a pinball table for fucking sake

>>387886627
except no other fighting game plays like SF, that's why it's the most popular, and the few one that does have that shitty anime aesthetics like Uniel

>>387892425
>shitty anime aesthetics like Uniel
dumb anti-anime poster

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>>387892425
>no others do
>but let me tell you about the ones that do

>>387889339
I'm so disappointed it'll have to go to early access.

>>387888306
dont disrespect doom by implying it had a reload function

I relish that traditional fighters continue to see poor performance, and I hope the FGC dies with a pitiful whimper after everyone has already forgotten about it except the core autists

>>387886627
there was a time when SF2 was considered to have a shitload of animation frames, and it was actually hard to believe that it was successfully ported to the SNES, EGM made 2 massive articles showing each individual attack of each character

>it still looks really good

>>387886627
OP, I don't know, maybe you're underage or something, but I guess you don't understand how earth-shattering SFII was when it came out.
This game defined fighting games.
Plenty of games are trying to deviate from it, sometimes, quite successfully, but there will probably never be a fighting game that can be a cultural icon the way SFII was, however good it is.

>>387893679
>I'm bad
Its ok anon.