Quick question /v/. Which games would you consider to be the

>>387845296
beatmania IIDX

Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden 2.

>>387845296
N+

Some anime fighting games
Some arena shooters
Some RTS

These are the most skillful genres.

>>387845491
>>387845513
>>387845558
Great examples. What about games that require you to be prepared before battle (bringing the right items, enemy knowledge, proper party members, Darkest Dungeon comes to mind.)?

>>387846080
Are you retarded? That doesn't take skill.
>wow it's so hard and skillful to setup an optimal party and take items i need
>i had to PICK to the right thing omg such skill

>>387846080
>What about games that require you to be prepared before battle (bringing the right items, enemy knowledge, proper party members, Darkest Dungeon comes to mind.)?
Wizardry IV

>>387845296
Battletoads.

>>387846310
Knowing how to set up an optimal party is not a skill? You're still making a choice on what will help you overcome an obstacle, which requires critical thinking.

the evil within on akumu.

>>387845296
Super Meatboy comes to mind
Some of the batshit crazy (asian) difficulties on some rhythm games or bullet hell games
The highest tiers of some competitive games, possible like Quake or various RTS
Highest difficulties on hack n slash games, particularly ninja gaiden and DMC

>>387845296
ikaruga

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butcher.

>>387846414
I had heard of the Wizardry series but never paid attention to it. Wizardry 4 sounds like a god damn nightmare to play, but it's an excellent example of what I was looking for.

Cuhrayzee games on higher difficulties
High mobility twitch shooters like Q3 and UT
Bullet hell games

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>>387845296
Fighting games.

>>387846864
There's no such thing as skill in fucking games made for children, you child.