REVIEW IS IN GRIMOIRE IS SHIT CLEVE IS P0WNED FELIPE GETS HI

>>387796469
Is the game dead now? There are still around 3k units sold and the player count is now stable below 100.

>>387796734
It's dead, he fucked Cleve in the ass well and deep, no one will ever buy it after his scathing critique.

Sapes btfo thals once again.

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>>387796469
DELET THIS YOU SAPES

felipepepe did nothing wrong

>>387796469
You didn't even read it.

>>387797464
>>387797560
lol what a backpeddling retard, as if that's going to save him from financial ruin

>>387797681
>financial ruin
>game made in his free time

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>>387797464
Buffs take fucking ages to apply with the sluggish UI and the game freezing for 2 seconds everytime you cast something and you have to reapply everything every 1-2 fights because you need to rest to refill mana and vitality. Severe autism is required to actually believe that these instakill attacks are good content in any way.

>lmao sape just stack 8 armorplates every minute

Quality game design

>>387796469
>assblasted goonshit continue screeching because a game they said would never come out came out and made a couple hundred grand in a month

>$40 dollars for this

???

>>387798420
Do you really not see why a decade-long veteran of the Codex, who has become a respected contributor and invested more effort than anybody else in learning about and chronicling the CRPG genre, would be a bit upset about this bizarre circle jerk/flash mob of edgy nobodies who are accusing him of being a hack? Not just disagreeing with him, not arguing respectfully or even disrespectfully, but outright discounting his words? All in service of a whackjob like Cleve? When his review isn't even that negative? WTF is this? Burning Bridges is right, the newfags are getting out of hand.

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>>387798905
>autistic screeching continues

one big factor people are overlooking here:

Dying in this game isn't a big deal. Reviving characters from a regular death is a commonplace affair, and not that bad of a set back at all. Early on you can find dozens of charges to do it, and later on you can learn to cast the spell.

>>387799158
You lose 10 con each time

>>387799158
>trying to educate people who will never play the game about things that everyone who has played the game already knows
Don't even bother, it's just a retarded hate campaign because they can't stand having been blown the fuck out

>>387799235
>hrrrrrrrrrrrrr I don't know how the game works
Stop using the shitty version of the spell idiot

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>grimoire
>rpgcodex
100% concentrated 'tism

>To cast a spell with your caster, for example, you have to scroll through the icons next to his portrait until you get to the spellbook icon

In the review, this retard complained about the UI not having tooltips (it does), and not having right click functionality (it does), after supposedly playing for 80-100 hours.

How can anyone take him seriously after that?

>>387799338
All of the ways to revive characters fucks your CON.

>>387796469
t. sape

>>387797464
insta kills in any capacity save for endgame content or eniemes that are obviously a high threat are inexcusable in any RPG context for me. I never understood the point of this shit besides padding, the same for teleporter dungeons.

>>387799550
Wow, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

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rpgcodex is filled with autistic mouth breathing retards
grimoire was made by cleve, the biggest autistic mouth breathing retard
who am i supposed to hate

>>387799587
>I'm a retarded casual piece of shit
Get the fuck out, you aren't welcome here, go play zelda 64

>>387799791
See >>387799546

>>387797965
>in his free time
>spent the last 23 years coding spaghetti and arguing on RPGcodex 24/7

>>387799902
Wow, a retarded SJW turned out to be a fucking liar?

PEOPLE OF COLOR ME SURPRISED

>>387796469
Jesus, no wonder the game is selling like shit.

>>387800120
>maybe if I post it's selling like shit over and over and over every single day it will come true
lol

>>387798905
Anon, you are arguing with a lifeless nobody who get's pleasure from spouting bullshit on /v/. Stop expecting logic or even rationality, and just hide the moron.

22 years in development for this garbage... should have kept it to himself

>>387800120
What can you expect when it has 70% positive on Steam, of all places. Last I've seen it sold less than 3000 units.

I still do not understand, why would someone want to play a RPG from 30 years ago...made today. There are already so many classics you can play.

>>387800630
>autistic screeching continues

This game is at best an Alpha release and even then I think that's stretching it. Cleve has shown that he's not the second coming of coders like he brands himself being. Of course his little cult of personality will defense force him hard. That's not to say the game doesn't have great potential because it does. It should just be handled by people way more competent and able to take criticism.

>>387800751
nostalgiafags, manchildren stuck in the past mostly

>>387800802
>maybe if I samefag up some "criticism" then this guy I hate won't have already made 200 thousand dollars

>Those guys who take it very personally seeing that people are enjoying the game

I'm sorry nobody wants to buy you're pixel shit game

This looks okay. Then I realized it's been in development for two decades and it becomes less than okay.

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>>387800934
>you're

>>387800192
>>387800774
>>387800875
Anon, are you ok?

>>387800875
You can think samefag all you want but it just shows how much of an idiot you are. Your beyond deluded if you think that one anon is the only one with criticisms.

>>387799338
thats true, no one knows how the game works since stats apparently don't do fucking anything and there is no manual out.

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>>387801272
>>387801280
>>387801286
>autistic screeching launches into overdrive

>>387800751
Look at sonic mania

>>387801341
Jesus, Cleve... you need a break.

>>387801286
http://grimoire.wiki/index.php/Attributes

>>387801462
>screeching continues

>>387801341
stop embarrassing yourself

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>>387797464
>Those impaler spears are designed to kill newbs and Brazilians very quickly down here

What did he mean by this?

>>387801531
>screeching continues

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>>387801341
I asked you if you were ok. I truly hope you are. What you are doing is not healthy. Please, think about it.

>>387799546
maybe if the game had a manual or a non shitty UI it would be easy to figure out

>>387801598
>screeching continues

Grimoire Opening Discount of 10%
JULY 24 - GOLDEN ERA GAMES
I have decided it is just a nice thing to do for people who have been waiting years to play my game if I offered a 10% discount on the game during it's first week. After this ends, I want to assure anyone waiting for the game that Grimoire will never, ever sell at a discount at any time it is on the Steam store ever again. I won't permit it to be sold below it's retail value for any reason. I am too proud of my finished product to permit it to be turned into simply another commodity in a Steam sale. If Valve ever decides that sales of the product no longer justify it having a page then I will move it to another venue - but as the author I will never offer my game at a discount again anywhere. I'm not a corporation that turns out games like sausages and computes their price curves over rates of decay in market value. Grimoire is my unique and proprietary product and I only want to sell it to the most hardcore fans of the genre. I was never targeting the mass market or casual gamers. It is in the first paragraph of the original design document I wrote more than 20 years ago when I was putting a proposal together that described the entire game end-to-end in both story, design and implementation. It was an aristocrat's manifesto when it was written and the language was specifically that of an aristocrat declaring the game was not going to be designed to appeal to the masses. Only fans of the genre.

In other news, Ellsworth Hall is continuing his development of a full suite of musical scores based on the original MIDI themes he created for Grimoire and these will be offered for sale alongside Grimoire at some time in the future on a CD on the store if approved by Steam.

>>387801341
Holy shit anon.
It's okay you spent all your good boy points for this badly designed game.

>>387801701
Top fucking kek. If I spent a quarter of a century producing an average game that wasn't selling well if immediately discount it in the hopes to save some face.

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>>387801598
Jesus, that's the same paranoid guy that got BTFO yesterday. Keep on cruising, anon!

>>387801881
>'and it is likely they will remove your account'
holy shit this guy

Daily reminder that nuDex is trash and the original 'Dex died the moment they've inducted BG2 - a game with 4 stat/classchecks total, into their list of best RPGs ever made. The dumbfucks at the nuDex know less about RPGs than the average virgin.

>>387801881
>thirty years of programming
>types that mess out
What a time to be alive.

I can't imagine a much worse hell then writing and working with twenty year old C.

>>387801881
He's like /v/'s golden boy. Shitposting 30 years straight, he keeps doing it nowadays even tho' he released the damn thing.

>>387801921
>Admits that he's here every day shilling against some game because he's fucking furious that it came out when he claimed it wouldn't
fucking kekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

>>387798905
>Do you really not see why a decade-long veteran of the Codex, who has become a respected contributor and invested more effort than anybody else in learning about and chronicling the CRPG genre

I haven't been following the shitstorm around this game but this made me laugh hard. I didn't know RPG-Codex was leaking into /v/. We have truly hit the lowest point in our history.

>>387801881
Hahahahaha

>>387801881
This is all you really need to see to know to stay away from this game, holy fuck hahaha

>>387802254
Do you seriously not know about felipepepe's cRPG book where he chronicled and reviewed every cRPG worth mentioning? It's a seminal work that every future cRPG historian will base his writings on.

>>387800630

He's not asking you to buy or play it

>>387801341
You need to rest Cleve. This is starting to get serious. You need help.

>>387802254
That's just a copy-pasted post from RPG Codex, mate.

>>387802183
Wizardry is better than Fallout

>>387801921
>the same paranoid guy that got BTFO yesterday

It's actually Cleve himself. SAD.

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>>387802240
Nah, I just keep coming to these threads because I love the drama. And there's always you, anon. The gift that keeps on giving.

>>387802636
>you, anon
*Cleve

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>>387798189
Besides the fact that apparently applying buffs is something only intelligent people can do

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>>387802636
have to admit, although I have tried a pirated copy and found it somewhat intriguing, all the drama and shitposting around this game is where it's really at

>spellcasters always go last no matter what
wtf is cleve smoking

>>387803274
wasn't it tied to characters speed attribute?

>>387796469
I love the game, I think the aesthetics (outside of the bizarre changes in graphical style), world building, atmosphere and humour are all great but the game just feels like it needs a few extra people to come in and just clean it up, stuff like balancing the classes/combat so it isn't just based around stunning your enemies, managing the inventory better (as in this would probably be better as just its own screen rather than a toolbar to scroll through), better loot tables, more environment tiles and so forth.

The game is like 80% there.

>>387799780
I tested it, low tier shitposter.

>>387803739
What did you test, precisely?

>>387803941
your mom

>>387801881
Does this guy actually know how to code? I mean, holy shit

>>387804030
>took 20 years to make

Do you have any doubt left?

>>387804006
lol retarded goonshit liar blown the fuck out again

>>387803274
What are *you* smoking? Pump up speed.

Haha hope all the idiots who bought this get a refund now

Fucking gullible retro hipsters lool

>>387796469
> [...] the game truly excels [...]
nothing to see here. OP BTFO

>>387796469
>the first 15-20 hours of Grimoire were an excellent RPG - the remaining 60 hours were basically a fun adventure game
ah so a 9.7/10 by BoTW standards.

I've never played a blobber in my life,
I just come into these threads because they're funny

>>387799546
tooltips take way too long to appear and then vanish way too easily. that's why so many people miss them.

>>387805748
what's a blobber

>>387801482
half of these statements are incorrect.... speed determines order of operations in combat for example, and metabalism can be raised manually, devotion effect magic gain....

>>387796734
It's actually around 5k

Does anybody have the forum link where these two kept arguing, it had like 200 pages

>>387801881
the copies aren't effected by piracy, they're pirated copies of 1.2.0.7 which is the version with broken savegame files.... the pirates didn't do anything to sabotage this version, other than wildly distributing cleve's worst version patch.

>>387800638
Just because you haven't bothered to check steamspy in weeks doesn't mean nobody bought it since theb

Why the fuck is this game getting so much attention here? This is the only place I've seen it talked about and it's either one extreme or the other.

>>387805998
Boogie2988 I think

>>387806342
It's a niche genre and there are people who like this type of game here. There are also the type of people who feel the need to be a shithead to anyone enjoying themselves

>>387806342
because it can't be discussed anywhere else but here or rpgcodex without immediately devolving to 'lel cleve is a racist'

>>387800875
Actually he spent 200k and made 100k, before steam's cut and taxes.

>>387806749
If you go by steam spy, he made almost 200000 maybe more with the range given, so I guess for now he's breaking even by that argument. Though any future sales at this point could be considered pure profit.

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>>387806492
the author of this game is a person who enjoys shitposting too much, this has rubbed sand in many idiots vaginas and made many more trolls moist

>>387806342
Rpgcodex manchildren have to shill the fuck out of any drpg. Shitposters will always flock to anything ever and other massive shitposters.

>>387807035
Steam takes 60k from 200k so he's got 140k before taxes. No idea what that is in Australia. Most of his sales are likely already been made so unless he makes a decent discount during steam sales (like the liar he has proven himself to be) he's not going to turn a profit.

I'm not really a graphics snob as I play SS13 and Rimworld, but did this game have to look like that? In 2017? ...

>>387807351
>Most of his sales are likely already been made
t. My ass hole

and you know the game will go on sale at some point

>>387807521
but cleve you said it was already a bargain

>>387807498
it's not for you

>>387807521
It's an obtuse game in a niche genre in which there are classics from people to choose from, or simply more accessible choices for newcomers. Cleve claimed it wouldn't go on sale again for at least 8 years, but we also know he's a lying sack of shit that said there wouldn't ever be a gog version and yet he's planning on releasing one.

the games a money grab nothing more NOT a passion project or someones life work. Its something on the side cleve released to make a quick buck. The fanboys of this game are hilarious. It sucks ass compared to every blob/crawler released the past two decades that has broked at least a thousand sales.

>>387807612
Doesn't excuse it for lacking polish. Different art styles for enemies, repetitive/annoying sound, like 2 frames of animation, etc.

>>387799791
Says the anime retard from /v/

>>387807498
Incompetence that would make even the No more Skies dude blush

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>>387808031
B-B-B-BUT THAT'S WEEB SHIT!!! PEDO!!!

>>387796469
>16 days and 80 hours of gameplay later, I'm pleased to present his findings. (As opposed to Cleve, who summarily banned felipe from his game's Steam forum when presented with them.)

CLassy.

>>387808161
idk if you can make first person blobbers in rpg maker or not but if you can. Hire a artist and you can make a better game then cleve in a year.

>>387808161
It started development in 1994, made by one guy who commissioned art from four people over the decades.

>>387807521
see
>>387801701
straight from cleve's retarded cock-filled mouth. But he'll probably backpedal from that and start begging gabe to put his game on sale

>>387808317
Its not even weeb shit old wizardry games and shit ton of other indie stuff.

>>387808329
If it's so easy why haven't you done it?

>>387808329
You can make decent blobbers on rpg maker, hell you can actually make a lot of shit on it if you actually care to look at teh documentation and forums talking about it

i unironically love it when rpg codex blows the fuck out of an rpg

>>387808327
Infinitron is lying about it.

Cleve banned Felipe because he made up something that Cleve supposedly said and tried to pass it off as a developer quote.

>>387808329
Wouldnt game maker work better if you wanted a minimal effort blobber?

>>387808332
Should have stuck with one artist. Also there's no reason the background couldnt have been updated to look better and create atmosphere. Something this game definitely lacks with its 2D pixel trees behind a hand drawn, detailed sprite.

so what exactly does "Skull of Hathor Sogg" do? also is there anyway to reach the erie wastes if you don't start there? Because I just started there, found this skull, teleported to crowl, and it seems like one dusty skull is way less useful than what you get in prison/sanctuary.

>>387808716
no one cares faggot this thread is about shitting on cleve

>>387808801
just ignore the post if you don't have an answer faggot, are you that starved for attention?

>>387808246
anime retards from /v/ are self aware at the very least
can't say the same for codexers

>>387808329
This could have been made in flash by a novice. Looks visually worse than amateur games on newgrounds.

>$40

Shame, seems like it could be fun. Just cant get into it. Maybe if it had a cool concisive look like Darkest Dungeon or something.

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>the game truly excels at one thing that modern RPGs just don't deliver: the constant call to adventure.

>After you finish the first major quest and find the first of the Stone Tablets, the game opens into a massive world (this was where the Super Demo ended). Now you can explore in any direction, searching for the remaining seven Stone Tablets. It's hard to convey just how large this world is. It's easily more than twice the size of Wizardry VII, possibly thrice. While at this point the maps lose that conciseness of the initial areas, they're still reasonably sized, meaning you go through them at a quick pace, constantly experiencing new things. And some of these are quite well presented - not with fancy graphics, but with charming descriptive text, that nails that old-school AD&D-ish vibe.

>You enter a new area, a giant pyramid looms in the horizon... as you get close, you cross a field of charred bones and see a humanoid rat desperately running towards you, his eyes begging for help. Before you can do anything, a light flashes atop the pyramid and burns the rat to a crisp. As the smoke dissipates, you see the giant doors of the pyramid, inviting you in. At that point, I'm sold - into the pyramid we go!

>Like a RPG version of Civilization's "one more turn" cycle, there's always something just waiting to be discovered. Got into the a flooded city raided by Naga? Now there's a pirate compound for you to infiltrate by disguising yourself! Got past the pirates? Here's a magical sea chariot! And there's a sunken ship! And next to it is the Kraken that sank it! Got past it? Here's a giant ancient tower! And so on.

fuck why couldn't the game be good

>>387809415
>>You enter a new area, a giant pyramid looms in the horizon... as you get close, you cross a field of charred bones and see a humanoid rat desperately running towards you, his eyes begging for help. Before you can do anything, a light flashes atop the pyramid and burns the rat to a crisp. As the smoke dissipates, you see the giant doors of the pyramid, inviting you in. At that point, I'm sold - into the pyramid we go!
huh that sounds pretty cool.

>>387809415
It is good, by 1995 standards.

>>387808921
calm yer tits, younglin
>>387808801
was just trying to save you some time

>>387809008
>anime retards from /v/ are self aware
fucking kek

thing is I wouldn't even consider thing game a blobber with the balance being out of whack. Its more like a adventure game. If I wanted to play a adventure game I go fire up banjoo kazooi or play silent hill games.

>>387799791
cleve's autism is legendary

this is the man who nearly bankrupted Sir-Tech singlehandedly

>>387810431
given that sir-tech actually did go bankrupt... uh... what happened?

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>>387810431
I would watch an documentary about cleve and making of grimoire

>>387803152
Is that jontrons new bird?

>>387810639
ass blasted the dev team behind wiz 8? i think enough to include a caricature (Barkmore) of him in jagged alliance

the whole saga is on google somewhere but it was proven to be true when sir tech had a bankruptcy auction and it turned out he was not only a registered employee but had written enough trolling memo's to have its own storage box in the auction list

Does Cleve listen exclusively to Neanderthal music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx7BRmMWaYQ

>>387797464
>no one held Mass Effect: Andromeda reviews because "the game have several bugs and animation issues,"
>several bugs
>several animation issues

Yeah no one held back their 7.7/10 reviews, they might have lost their um, revenue.

>same assblasted goonshit still trying to make this hate campaign work hours/days/weeks/months later
kekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk