What exactly pisses you off about this game, /v/? Is it the

It's slow and dull and every match feels the same and the maps are terribly designed.

>>387654117
This and it's horribly shallow with a pathetically low skill ceiling.
It's a decent babby's first FPS but if you have experience with other shooters then it gets old really fast.

it's a strategy game disguised as an FPS

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>>387654003
>Was so fucking eager to get past level 100 so I would play with better people
>turns out there's plenty of shitters even when you get to 1, 2 or 3 stars
>competitive overwatch is fucking stupid

Also I'm kind of butthurt they got rid of 1v1.
Also it's really surprising that most people don't know what to do against a good Widowmaker
Hope they actually end up adding deathmatch

nothing, it's just boring.

>>387654003
>Game has 20+ heroes and counting and not even half of them are worth using
>loot boxes are a pathetically boring reward system designed to squeeze shekels out of retards with disposable income
>competitive is a coin toss: sometimes you get paired with decent players other times you'll get paired with literal retards or toxic faggots who will get upset and throw a game

Game is pure cancer

>>387654671
Time played=/=Level of skill

>>387654003
In order

>bad maps
>you have a very loose influence over the game
>low skill ceiling
>game balanced by retards
>lots of not fun cancer skills

too expensive to play payload: the game. i'd rather stick to better competitive games.

>>387654003
Competitive is fucking retarded. I try as hard as I can, but I can't get anywhere past silver due to retarded teammates continuously dying and basically throwing games.

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>>387654003
Team based and 50% win rate thing. No matter how good you are, if you don't have people to play with you're going to get FUCKED. Now, I know some of you have Legendary stories to tell about how you made it from like... Gold to Grand Master, but that shit was pure luck based on the amount of players that have the same dislike toward Solo queue.

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>Played my first comp game in 3 months 2 days ago
>Fucker on our team picks Junkrat
>Even though they had a Pharah for the first 2 rounds
Thank fucking god he switched to Rein in the third, we actually won that.

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>>387655316
>Go to play competitive
>Some faggot always picks Hanzo
>Went from diamond to gold, then silver
Let's suffer together, Anon

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>>387654003
That it exists.

That's exactly what it is. Overwatch has come into my life at the exact point in time where the more I play, the worse/not better I get. In no other game before it was it as clear that I'm not getting good anymore.

>>387654003
>play competitive
>90% of people are diehard meta no fun allow and the other 10% throw the game for lels
>play quick play
>both teams instantly fill with genji and hanzo, no tanks, no healers
>nobody even cares who wins

Epic

>>387655516
>forced to play healer
>forced to play tank
>teammates are instalock hanzos, genjis, symettras who refuse to switch
>no one talks
>unsurprisingly lose most games
>forced to play with worse and worse players
>end season 1000 sr below where I placed

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Hope you're enjoying performance-based SR Anon!

That completely useless DPS main? Yeah he's going to lose less than you because he stubbornly stayed on Hanzo the entire game

Have fun!

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Because whether or not it's worth playing is literally a coin toss.

its doesnt have enough porn

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>>387655915
>mfw when I'm a GM Hanzo main

>if you don't like something it's because you must be bad
I hate this kind of argument, maybe people aren't good because the game is a steaming pile of shit and they can't stand the idea of playing it for hours?

>>387654003
>Poor selection of map
>Most of them are shit
>Blizzard can not into balance
>Keeps pushing new characters because lootboxes bucks
>No mechanical customization
>Arcade has more gamemode variety than quick or comp
>Rating based on team wins, not individual performance
>Meta shit - the higher you are, the more boring and repetitive it becomes
Just from the top of my head, game is "fun with friends" tier.

I just cant aim to save my life
Even if I fix that you cant fix the glaring problems this game has

>>387656014
I envy you. I only play McCree and have been stuck in bronze since Season 3

>>387654003
>awful maps designed around choke points
>tons of cc (in a fucking shooter)
>low skill cap
>low individual impact
>game is balanced around both teams throwing ultimate's at one another in "coordination"
>every match play out nearly the same, with no variation or freedom

I REALLY wanted to like this game

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>>387656014
>my face when when

>>387656159
We can play if you want, you just have to like, subscribe, follow me on twitter, twitch, youtube and instagram.

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>Symmetra locks onto you and begins jumping around in a wild manner and even throws out shield
>Her Sentry Turrents lock onto you too
>All this happening causes you to miss your shots that COULD have killed her
>Winston player is tired of your shit
>Jump towards you, throws shield, eats at your HP, when you get low enough he chases you for the kill
>About to kill Winston or get away from his bullshit and he Solo Ults just to kill you


I can't be the only one that gets pissed off when this happens, right? RIGHT!?

>>387655834
Fucking this, there really is no happy medium.

Also the other game types are hilariously tacked-on.

>>387654003
Slow and casual as hell

>>387654003
>game has ~25 characters with more additions planned
>only 10 of them (at best) are used in """higher-level""" comp
>at lower levels it's a fuckfest
>several character have extremely annoying, no-fun abilities
>nobody cares about the game in QP
>arcade modes are mostly cancer (Mystery Heroes is one of the most frustrating and unsatisfying game modes there is)
>dogshit balancing

>>387656383
>>Symmetra locks onto you and begins jumping around in a wild manner and even throws out shield
One of the things that makes me laugh about this game is how every time - and I do mean every single time - there's a Symmetra on the enemy team, she always launches her shield and runs in a straight line towards your team. It's absolutely retarded but with the way the game works it's sadly viable in most occasions.

>>387654003
It's a first person view MOBA, the flow of a MOBA doesn't translate really well for a first person, things end up being slower than other FPS

>>387654003
Every match I've played felt the same.

Even Call of Duty felt like it had more variety per round.

Repetitive. Every match is the same.

>>387656912
Why don't you just admit you don't know what a MOBA is?

>>387657138
CoD does have more variety

>>387654003
Hanzo needs to be removed

>Mccree headshot: 150 damage
>Hanzo headshot: 250 damage with no reload

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>>387656853
>play mystery heroes
>Zarya main gets Zarya 3 lives in a row
>give defense team 2 winstons and 2 lucios
>Koth that one time where our team had 3 symmetras
fuck that gamemode, even total mayhem with infinite hp roadhogs and tracers is better

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It loses its fun real fucking fast. I played a lot of Reaper and Junkrat and had a good time, but you can only play the same multiplayer modes and maps for so long with this type of gameplay before everything just gets really fucking dull.

FPS can last a while, but I don't think this class based stuff is really all that great. I'd rather go back and play Counter-Strike Source or CoD4 than play Overwatch ever again.

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>>387657435
>MOBA

Multiplayer Online Battle Arena

But even more so its an ASSFAGGOTS.
Aeon of Strife Styled Fortress Assault Game Going On Two Sides


There are heroes with absolute shit kill power, the highest skill ceiling players are SHOCKINGLY snipers who can pew pew people to death instantly.

The game centers around skill timers, your teams placement and just constant attrition.

It's fucking shit, it's also why Halo lost to COD:MW. Because When 1 player doesn't have the means to kill an entire team on his own it becomes a boring tug of war. This is why PUBG is literally butt fucking them, because 30 rounds is 30 rounds and that means 30 dead players if they can all hit the head.

>A year later
>Still very little maps
>Still very little mods
>3 new ugly characters
>2 of them are niggers
>Can't create custom maps
>Become dull very quickly
Thank god for the porn tho

>>387658709
>play mystery heroes
>payload map
>team gets an OK comp, manages to hold off the other team for most of the match
>enemy team then gets a Torb, Ana, Mercy, Pharah and two Zaryas
>can't kill anybody because whenever they're not being pocketed by a healer they have a shield
>Pharah does nothing but focus on healers and be a nuisance
>Torb puts the turret on the payload, protected like a national treasure, refuses to fucking die because the team is having enough problems getting past the Zaryas and whenever someone gets close he immediately pops out 4 armor packs for himself + his ult
>Mercy revives whoever died
>lose

I could forgive the game if all the maps weren't so terrible
The only one I actually enjoy playing is King's Row, everything else is unrepentant shit

>>387655834

This, DM will at least give the game a chance to stand on its own.

>>387654003
No incentive to git gud. You'll get kills and shiny gold stars at the end no matter how terrible you are. Sometimes you get the potg and feel extra special even though the play was trash. Game is repetitive as well and best played in short bursts and when you can't think of something better to play.

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Everything. I realised that when I actually had fun playing a different videogame again.

I'm fucking addicted to it though. Just like when I always played csgo. I've got a real taste for liking shitty games. Managed to go 5 days without booting it up so far.

anyone who plays hanzo deserves to die

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>>387660904
*presses E at your feet*
heh... too easy kid...

>>387661076
the only hero that can oneshot without even having to aim

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>>387661118
pardon?

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>>387661118

I think you forgot a certain negro who can one shot people without even aiming remotely near their playermodel.

Over half the cast can only be picked by a third of the team. The other 4 are each limited to 3-4 characters that are worth picking for their role.

I wouldn't say it pisses me off, but the character design is wasted on it being yet another shooter.

Seems like it'd be better used in a game of another genre, but that's just me. I'm just not really into shooters.

>>387655834
Pretty much. People are either sucking the Meta's dick or fighting over who can play Genji and Hanjo.

It doesn't piss me off, but I think that the characters and their design are wasted on what amounts IMHO to just another shooter. I tried it on a free weekend and never saw the appeal of it.

>>387661379
You can at least see the fist coming if looking at it face to face.

>>387654003
Overwatch has made me hate team vs team games. I've weathered and moved on from shit like csgo, lol, dota2, hon, etc but Overwatch takes the fucking cake.

>>387661319
>>387661379
It's just bad fucking design.
>doomfist punches you into something that's barely a wall like the edge of some stairs
>still get oneshot
what are they thinking?

Paladins is much, much better.

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>>387654671

literally not sure if bait or just retarded
you know your playtime (stars and level) has fuck all to do with who you get matched with right?
quickplay and competitive both use mmr and elo to match you, the only difference is you can't see your quickplay rating, but your ranked is shown

>>387654003
It was really great and fun at first but now it's just too samey and there never feels like any real meaningful changeups.

The game needs more fucking content. Period.

What content is:
-Maps
-Gamemodes
-Heroes

What is not content:
-Fucking skins and lootbox shit

We've gotten a new map in the Lunar Colony, Junktown soon, and Deathmatch (which is bad but still new). Hopefully they picked up on that.

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>>387654003
it's dull has an incredible low skill ceiling shit balancing and becomes insufferable after 10 minutes

also 6 dps is never fun and i hope every faggot that instalocks dps and refuses to switch thinks about the effects their actions have on others

>>387655491
if there was even an ounce of truth to this then the best players in the world couldn't consistently place in top 500
git gud

>>387661968
Paladins adds a new hero every 3-4 weeks. Also they add a map every 1-2 months. Only costs 20 dollars to unlock every current and future hero.

Basically everything about its design philosophy when compared to the game it rips off most, TF2
>restricted in literally part of the game
>character customization (skins/loadouts) only allows stock and Blizzard Approved™ cosmetic differences
>no modding allowed
>no personal/private servers allowed
>no room for the kind of stupid shit that happens in TF2
>even sprays and player icons have to be blizzard approved
There's a lot of other shit I don't like about the game, but the sheer lack of player freedom in how they express themselves through gameplay and other features is the most damning thing to me.

>>387654003
I don't like it because I can't fuck around in it while watching Seinfeld reruns on my TV like I can with Team Fortress 2. It's way too sweaty. There should be a timeless mode with 10 vs 10 just to fuck around in.,

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Justify this

>>BAD DESIGN

>>387661770
i would fucking wreck you kid, based on your D.Va gameplay

>zarya main here

My problems with the game are:

Existence of Symmetra/Mercy design (instalock aim)

Ultimates being I win button for bads

New content too slow (3/4 months for a hero)

But Im having fun nonetheless

>>387662743
>Zarya main
Mah nigga. You guys do excellent work.

>>387662871
>existence of Mercy design
Symmetra's is hot garbage, but Mercy's healbeam is the best idea they stole from TF2, it makes playing medic not suck absolute ass when you're trying to heal idiots who won't stand still and it allows you to watch your back for flankers while your heal target deals with the front.

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>>387661646
He's insanely inconsistent, and most people aren't really talking about it because of the massive punch hit box that triggers Genjis and Tracers. Sometimes you'll hit someone dead on, they'll just bounce off the wall and take no extra damage. Sometimes you'll hit them through a wall or car, other times you'll hit them directly and nothing happens. If you shoot too quickly after expending all your shotgun rounds, it will cause an increased recharge delay of 3-4 seconds. He's a complete mess.

It's the game in general, Reinhardt had similar problems with pinning people. Roadhog with his hook. Instead of actually fixing these abilities, Blizz just likes to nerf them into the ground and ruin heroes.

It's shit.

>>387663156
But you dont need skill. Too many mercy one tricks on ladder.

>>387663063
>Someone who mains any hero in Overwatch, "does excellent work"

If you have a "main" in this game then you're fucking terrible. The heroes all have dead simple loadouts for a reason and you're supposed to be switching heroes to compensate with the tide of battle.

I bet you're one of the retards who never contests the payload but argues, "you did your job as your hero" when your team loses.

Can someone seriously explain Hanzo's design to me? He's literally just better Mccree. Why does he have no reload? Why do his half charged shots on bodies do as much damage as a mccree headshot?

>>387654003
No depth at all, leading to every match to being more or less the same fucking thing.

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>feel like playing ow
>volskaya
>volskaya
>defense
>hanamura
>another defense
>volskaya
Wish there was a map filter or something, I haven't played on Nepal in months

>>387663291
Nothing in overwatch needs skill. Also, your priorities are fucked. Skill is important in something, but so is making sure that the basic mechanics of a game are simple and easy to use so that even an absolute retard can be of some help to his team if he really tries. Skill comes from making those mechanics have room to interact with other mechanics to create depth and complexity. Healing in FPS games is already hard enough because the enemy KNOWS to shoot you first on sight and your teammates are generally not helpful when you need to heal them by not standing the fuck still because why the hell would they, they're badly hurt and people might still be shooting at them. So by making the healbeam just stick to your target, it makes being a healer more fun even if overwatches implementation of it lacks even the basic mechanical depth the medigun had.

>>387663184
>>387661646

They reduced the hitbox on the PTR.

>>387663804
Alright nothing needs skill. Are you GM on Hanzo/McCree/Genji/Widow/Tracer?

>>387663340
I feel like the excuse would be that the bow having 1 ammo clip would be pointless, so they have it to infinite and the damage is because it is a projectile rather than hitscan.

>>387663848
I know, and it's going to make him utterly useless as he already was a weak character when played against competent people.

>>387663995
welcome to hog hell

>>387663965
And you have to charge.

>>387663924
I don't even play this trash game, what do you honestly think takes any real skill to master in overwatch besides the obvious like "aim" or "situational awareness"? It doesn't have anything as nuanced and useful as rocket jumping from TF2.

>>387663804
Healing in OW feels like such a fucking obligation to me. It's always just "oh darn I didn't pick DPS fast enough, time to heal if I want a chance at winning I guess" and playing a tank without any healers is pure aids.

My girlfriend plays competitive religiously, and it always puts her in a shitty mood. Between the leavers, terrible balance, and braindead teammates, I cannot for the life of me figure out why she still plays it. I constantly offer to buy her any other game she ever wants just so I don't have to hear her complain anymore, and she always says she doesn't want anything else. What the fuck is wrong with her?

>>387664149
don't give that bullshit. the charge is barely anything for how much extra damage he gets

>>387664317
Women complain. Welcome to RL.

>>387663965
the projectile component gives it an advantage. you can shoot, dodge and still get the headshot meaning you can oneshot while avoiding danger

>>387664286
That's because due to character limits and very small team sizes, it essentially is an obligation

>>387664472
McCree shoots faster, does more damage on medium/short range. Hanzo is better on longer ranger.

>>387661646
He's big like a tank with 250 HP.

If he wasn't broken people would easily destroy him.

>>387664585
hanzo's damage per second is still better. it's also really easy for a competent hanzo to oneshot you at close range, which has happened pretty much every other game for me

>>387662743
you probably would, this was season 3 when dva was broke, but I have since moved on to dps main trying to break top 500 without using tanks only able to get gm so far

>>387664701

are you assuming both are landing headshots with every shot? because cree will much do more damage than a hanzo consistantly over the course of the game, but cree excels peeling for his supports

I'm a Zen one-trick which is great because Zen is stealth the best character in the game

>>387664317
The game hooks people and makes them care about their shiny rank.
>>387664413
Everyone complains, especially overwatch players. Way to sound like a pussy.

>>387664951
Well, every blizzard game has glaring issues. WoW balance is trash. HS is pure rng. Diablo has no content.

>>387662448
You can't. The hog got overcooked.

>>387664889
Hanzo will easily do more damage than a mccree with constant headshots. Hanzo can oneshot Soldier with a charged headshot, mccree does most but not all of his health

>>387654003
know what pisses me the fuck off with it?

>be me
>load into a game
>killing retards and noobs and go about shit talking them
>"anon please dont shit talk"
>tell them to go fuck themselves its a fucking game and shit talk is part of it
>"anon this about fun"
>fun is shit talking your worthless asses
>get banned

it already pissed me off that overwatch is a goddamn leftie sjw shit show. but now they are making it a safe space? fuck that shit its just more proof that the lefties and sjws need to be arrested sooner rather then later.

>>387665626
wow you're so cool anon

>>387665626
I always report. Underages should be playing League.

>>387654003
Gameplay is slow paced, too-team-based, and has really stiff game design. Most matches I play end up as drawn out stalemates over choke-heavy map design, essentially being spam down a corridor until you get your ult. One player can only do so much as 1 character, they have a set in stone play style with a sickening lack of freedom in how you can play, so characters get boring. Not only that, but the rock paper scissors counter system doesn't work in a game like this, especially with such rigid characters. In Pokemon a Water type can learn an ice move to counter a grass type, but Overwatch's game design instead forces you to rely on your team mates to cover your weaknesses, which is a complete fucking crap shoot. If I'm playing Reinhardt and the enemy team has a Pharah, and my team mates aren't competent enough to shoot her down for me, I can't do my job of protecting them, and thus the match is no fun for me, and if I'm not having fun, I stop playing the game. My friends dragged me into the hype meme, but once that honey mood phase stopped, buyer's remorse settled in.

>>387654003
It doesn't piss me off, it's just a disappointment. Really.

Want a good example of better games? Paladins and even Battleborn despite what retarded waifufags of OW says. Now, why am I saying this? It's because Paladins has cards to make your character deal different effects/dmg in each match and Battleborn has items with different stats/effects, this alone make the same character feel different in each match

>>387665758
>>387665763
both of you are just upset sjws that see that the alt right runs shit now and we're making things better.

>>387662448
>Blast someone, point blank in the face with a shotgun
>70 damage

>>387654003
fact that I cant carry retards in this game

>>387654003
my group and i stopped playing it when we realized the devs tailor the game to satisfy bronze-gold shitters.

>>387666203
>>387666141
its a reddit game, what did you guys expect?

>>387662448
holy fuck did they ruin roadhog

>>387654003
I want to play DPS since I make for a really good pharah on capture the point, but every fucking time and I swear it's been happening alot lately

>you're a lucio main go play lucio why are you on pharah

Yeah because I have 5 hours less on pharah than Lucio I should get off DPS (mostly because Payload comes up way more often)? Fucking idiots.

>>387665626
>be a complete asshole to random people online for no reason
>"hey man can you maybe not do that"
>REEEE FUCKING SAFE SPACE LEFTIE LIBTARD SJW REEEEEEEEE

>>387662448
hog didn't deserve this

>>387665978
Nope. I like underages getting banned. The saltier, the better.

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>all my friends got to grandmaster
>play qp with them constantly
>my powerlevel is rising and i can carry scrubs out of elo hell much easier now.

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>>387664890
At last, someone else who truly sees.

>>387666141
This shit right here. Unless you're playing against absolute mouth breathers the carry potential is pretty much zero. It also has some of the most frustrating shit ever like a D.Va just rolling up and invalidating your ass while someone else shoots you along with a bunch of other garbage that's just helpless, inevitable death.

>>387662448
What did they do to him? looks like he just slapped him on the wrist

>>387662448
He's fixed in the PTR.

>>387666613
>D.Va just rolling up and invalidating your ass

I hate DVA so much as reaper I have to take her out or she makes my ult useless

>>387654427
>low skill ceiling
Show your SR

>>387666749
>WAAAAAAHHHHHHH I HAVE TO DO MORE THAN PRESS Q TO TEAM KILL WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
git gud

>Game has been out for a year now
>Only 3 new playable characters released
>90% of content is just recolored heros
>Blizzard can barely do anything that makes you want to use a skin you can't even see in game like adding new sound effects or visuals

>>387666886
worst is that even mobile games when releasing skins put more effort than Blizzard

>>387665278
sure, but the problem is doing consistent headshots. there's a reason hanzo isn't played at a pro level at all and mcree is, hanzo is the most inconsistent hero.

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>>387662057
It's still a coin toss no matter how gud you git. Getting gud only gives you a chance to maybe, just maybe carry the game if the opponents are retarded enough.

On that note, OW is full of mentally disabled 11yos, EU especially, since chances are, your teammantes can't/will refuse to talk/chat in English.

>all of them, and I mean ALL of them are trying to gitgud with Hanzo, Genji, and Widow
>Lucios, Mercys, Reinharts need to babysit that online asylum
>OW is the only game I witnessed that the individual who contributed the least always spits EZPZ

>>387667258
didn't refute my point though, if it was a coin toss or had any randomness the best players wouldn't consistently be in the top 500 and it would be a random assortment of 500 players every season, but it's not.
your logic holds true if you boil it down to one game, sure, but that's flawed logic. you should be looking at the seasons as a whole and you can't expect to win every game you play man

>smurf accounts

I hate them so much, so many of them are more likely to throw.

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>tfw no healslut to bully over VC
feels bad man

>>387654003
Skill Ceiling is the single most overrated term used by faggots to justify their waste of time on shit. I couldn't give 2 shits about that, some of the funnest times ive had playing games were simple one's anyways. Id easily go for games of Mario Party or murder shit in Diablo or suplex and piledrive faggots in Final Fight and Streets of Rage than waste my time banging my head in shit like DOTA or League to prolong some stupid sense of worth or e-peen.

Doesn't stop the fact Overwatch sucks because it's:
-Slow
-Boring
-Pathetically balanced. Too much has already been stated as to why.
-Fights are the same thing everytime
-Anything good and fun gets nerfed to oblivion
-Anything thats stupid gets changed in the most retarded ways possible

its the essence of a game where it can be fun to play usually any character for a while, but playing AGAINST them is about as much fun as rolling around in shit. dunno why i keep playing it

>blast the ball in Lucioball
>game calls it a Save
>ball doesnt change in any noticeable direction
>goal
Go fuck yourself Blizzard

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>>387667398
There's a hand full of godtier players that broke the game down on a molecular level, and the games meta is an interesting show of "who tilts first".

Point being, IRL with commoners, kids want to be those pro Genjis and Tracers and are just wasting everyone's time.

>You can't compare a selected few to the entire demographic.

It's short sighted on the same level as when Indians go "Anoop is CEO of that company, India masterrace", while the rest of India can't even poo in the loo.

>Your POV is just as flawed as mine, since it's a mere speculation

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>>387668019
>Get banned from comp because internet dc's so often
>Blizzard bans me from Lucioball comp too
What the fuck Blizzard

>>387654003
>What exactly pisses you off about this game, /v/?

the other players

>>387668098

except it's not, i've been master/gm majority of the seasons and peaked top 500 playing tanks, elo hell doesn't exist and is a common excuse bad players use to justify why they lose, when the only consistent factor in all of your games is yourself. this is not only true for overwatch but every team based game

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>>387661076
>Mfw Hanzo oneshot me a full health bastion with scatter.

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>>387664890
>no footsteps
>quiet as fuck
>discord melee kicks to the head do fuck tons of damage

You're absolutely right, Anon

>>387667523
This.
Then when you fucking call them out on it, they go full damage control mode.

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>>387669054
>I've
You're either lucky at coin tosses, or you rarely solo queue.

>>387666830
This is another problem with the game, in that SR takes far to much effort to grind up due to your team only being as strong as the worst two people.

It's like that time Seagull and that other guy tried to smurf up to Master, and ended up just rage quitting after two days because they had something like twenty losses in a row where they simply had no ability to win.

>>387655491

>pros manage to play solo queue and make it to the same high-tier consistently every single season without fail
>waaaah its luck based!

>>387668098
>Point being, IRL with commoners, kids want to be those pro Genjis and Tracers and are just wasting everyone's time.

This is true of every online game that's ever existed.

>>387654003
>characters soft counter each other, meaning some characters just have mammoth advantaged over others, like Roadhog fighting Bastion or Reinhardt.
>most characters are very shallow and not fun to play, only like Widow, McCree, Pharah, and Ana have any depth to their gameplay.
>winning depends more on your teams cohesion than individual skill, each person is exceedingly limited in what they can accomplish due to the role system and cool down abilities.
>game designed from the ground up to appeal to people that don't like shooting games, then had an esport scene randomly thrown at it after this
>no scoreboard system mixed with the fact that individuals can't do much on their own and need a functioning team to accomplish anything means that losing games will often fall into a blame game situation were no one can really be sure who was doing more work

Also this >>387655205

Granted the art style is nice and I really dig its cartoony aesthetic. Reinhardt with his helmet off in the camouflage armor, the Anubis skin for Pharah, and Zenyata all look great to me.

>>387669898
>seasons
>actually getting rid of rank points

Seasons really don't do much, and they get to the top because they play a fuckton of games and they win a bit more than they lose so they eventually shift their way to the top.

OW's ranking system is also pretty fucked when compared to like any other FPS game, but it's due in part to how OW has different roles.

tfw i never play junkrat yet I have all of his event skins

>>387670428

of course, they belong at the top. the system is very good at identifying where you belong and putting players into groups of their own skill, you generally only fall if you play on tilt and climb if you actually improve yourself.
people stuck in low elo are just not very good at the game

>>387662448
Even with a full combo, the hog can't kill a mechless dva. Thanks blizzard.

It's for casuals and retards what's there to get gud at?

>>387669054
I'm sure you have proof of your claims

>>387671036
It used to be the only way to climb was to actually win consistenty, not really play well, which is a super shit system for a team based game. The game has no real good way of measuring individual metrics so it can't really judge personal performance.

When I played CSGO I once lost like 8 games in a row and finally deranked. I played well every game but we still ended up losing. Then my next two games I ended up winning and top fragging very hard and I ended up ranking up right after them. Shit like this just cannot happen in OW's ranking system.

>>387655205
Best response I've seen so far. This 1000000000x

>>387671487

i already posted a screenshot in the thread of my top 500, do you want more?

>>387671713
Well you said majority of your seasons, so yeah.

>>387670161

Look, I like Overwatch and think it can be a great deal of fun when the stars align and everyone is playing smart and working together. But it's a fucking coin toss if your team will try or be filled with brain dead, toxic assholes.

Unfortunately, even the best players can't carry a bad team; but a bad team can ruin a good player. And as such, everybody just blames everybody else.

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>>387664317
>I cannot for the life of me figure out why she still plays it
Because there really is no alternative. All other multiplayer shooters besides CSGO are depopulated as fuck, or will be come the following year. I mean what else is shemgoing to play, Titanfall 2? LOL.

>>387671956
I could see having a full team of friends being exceedingly fun (assuming people are honest with their mistakes) but solo que OW just sucks dick. The total lack of a scoreboard means accepting fault for anything will result in a team that turns on you and makes you the sole reason they lost.

OW is a game were the individual can't do shit on their own and they need a team to help them accomplish anything, this is made painfully obvious by pro players.

>>387672463
It's a shame what happened to Titanfall 2. Fucking EA sabotaged their launch.

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>>387664890
I love zen but, he could use some small changes. Nothing drastic, nothing to his discord, just some quality of life stuff.

It's stupid that he gets caught in junk traps, not a single part of him touches him, it shouldn't affect him.

Also, his harmony orb healing should be brought back to 30/s BUT, he should get two, which he would be able to stack on one person or split between two. This would help him be more competitive with the heavier healers.

>>387654003
Before I even bother to read the thread:

>Activision Blizzard makes it.
>TF2 did it already.
>Battlefield has bigger team sizes.

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Why is Jeff such an autistic fucktard that literally refuses to put any more cosmetic rewards in comp because it wouldn't attract "true competitive players"? if anything it would make more people want to play seriously and would help get rid of the throwers that ruined season 5 for me

either that or just add more non event cosmetics in general the vanilla legendaries are literally over a year old now so they just act as dupes or dumb generic shit everyone already has. after anniversary i cannot be fucked to play for 50 hours straight just to save up enough for one event legendary. tiered weapon skins would also help mix it up

im so triggered to the point where i want to throw comp now because everyone i get matched now would rather die than switch off their japenese anime main or elite sniper class, that or they are either throwing or have just been on a "6 hour sesh" and are "so fucking high lmao"

fuck theres so much more i could go on about

>>387665626
You sound like you were just a cunt and somebody told you to chill out. I do not understand why people like you even play these games when they make you so mad. You clearly have some issues you need to work on anon

>>387662448
Roadhog's hook is now just sending an invitation for your enemy to kill you from closer range

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>>387654003
The fact that I've had to develop a 6th sense for when Hanzo is looking at me pisses me off. I shouldn't have to be on the lookout for skill arrow.
Mercy one tricks that ride players with skill then act like their hot shit.

Other than that, it's pretty good. I'm a 2 games short of master.

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>>387654003
I'm flustered because I have no friends that play it so I'm stuck in solo queue. It's impossible to get out of bronze. I'm constantly doing the best on any team, getting the most.damage, kills, objective time, etc while my teammates are floundering around like special needs children. I'm not that good but I don't belong in bronze hell.

>>387675614
*they're
Can't spell today.

Too much depends on what teammates you get. This can be fixed if you can find 5 other people to play with, who you can trust to be not shit, but let's face it, it's not possible for most people.
Also, yes, you can hard carry shit teams but it takes a combination of an extraordinarily large skill gap between you, your team and the enemy team.
Those who say low skill ceiling as a reason are fucking pathetic because you can be 100% sure they themselves haven't reached that skill ceiling, so what the fuck are they complaining about? If they think there already is no difference between how they play and how the pros play, then that's just sad and pathetic.

>>387675631
Yes you do.

They need to like increase everyone's except healers, speed by 25-50%

Removal of "avoid this player"

GO FUCK YOURSELVES BLIZZARD I DONT CARE IF SOME WIDOW PLAYER WAS AVOIDED OFTEN UNTIL THEY CANT FIND A GAME, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO AVOID PEOPLE

>>387676432
>*icewalls the spawn*

>>387654003
I don't have the ability to give a fuck about multiplayer games

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It's because my computer loads 5 seconds slower than everybody else and I am forced to play a healer, even though I hate it.
Fuck me.
And then people like, oh, you have 8 hours on sup, means that your main, right? Why did you choose reaper.
Fuck you, I hate supporting, just because I am not a fucking dumb bitch about picking dps into 3 dps already, doesn't mean it's my main, you fucking cunt.
You be a good boy and pick supports for you team, you are fucked for the rest of your game.
You try to make more time for dps, so people believe that it is your main, but you can't do that, because fucking cunts won't believe I am good at it.
Fuck me.
Sorry, needed to vent. I just want to shoot people and I am good at it.
Anyone in a similiar situation? What did you do?

>>387669898
Did you not just see the post about Seagull not being able to smurf his way to Masters due to shitters?

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The fact that it's so bare bones and reliant on specific timing of a character's abilities meaning certain situations always play out the same and there's hardly any dynamic or skill involved in said situation. Comparing a similar game like TF2, there's tons of in depth meta mechanics in the game that can make it way more skill based than something like Overwatch. Yet it's still an entirely simple game mechanically. Overwatch is so shallow depth wise that it seems to be afraid to treat players differently from each other. Rather than a developer letting a meta of it's core game play out, and letting the new players learn from better players by getting carried and watching the better players play, IE: learning from play experience, Blizzard seems fine with just completely controlling the user expereience to a 100% degree, they also cave in and listen TOO much to the community in terms of whining about nerfs and buffs, rather than letting their (probably) better judgement of game design take over instead.

Overwatch is the only FPS game that I've played where I haven't been able to consistently carry my team in one form or another. I'm no average joe at FPS games and shouldn't be reduced to being treated like the same garbage that play these games en masse.

I am a Widowmaker main and never understood why she was nerfed until I played more of the game and looked around at the community. Widowmaker is the only hero in the game that can require an ounce of skill to be good at yet Blizzard says "she was too powerful in the right hands" Like what fucking logic is this fucking company on about?

The community is also utterly dreadful, it's by far the worst gaming community I've ever step foot into.

TL:DR - Game is made for lowest common denometer, and for people who like being angry.

>>387654003
It wants to be complex and competitive but decided to drop the complex part making it a snooze fest to play.

>join game
>shitters run off on their own and die and blame everyone else
>tell them not to run off on their own and die and then blame everyone else
>get told I'm bad

>>387654003
No, considering the fact I am smfc in csgo, a game which requires more skills

>>387677567
I used to be a good awper(sniper) on csgo but everyone in your teams usually wants goes "i want to awp", so, i stopped awping because of that.

>>387673254
If you play a trap in slow motion, it actually springs upward and grabs.

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>so hyped when it came out
>only play no skill gorilla
>bored af cause it's the same shit every game

>>387677567
instapick character i want to play, mute chat and voice chat

>>387654003
> play a few hours trying to find char I like
> settle on McCree
> actually do well in a game, storm the capture point, headshot two enemies, stun Reinhardt so others can kill
> kickingasswinninggames.jpg
> suddenly frozen
> every living teammate is frozen
> Mei has pressed one button and leftuis all helpless
> Mei headshots us all in turn
> fuckthisnormieshit.jpg

It's so fucking clear that they put ultimates in the game for eSports, so they can have big moments where the announcers scream "OHHH AND THE SHOCKWAVE COMES OUT AND DROPS THE ENTIRE TEAM OH MY GOD!" but shooters are not MOBAs, mobas are isometric strategy / rpg games so you can focus absolutely on your positioning and countering ultis. Shooters are about shooting enemies, preferably in the fucking head. I have no fucking patience for a game where someone can hit "R" and instantly deflect every single shot fired his way for five seconds.

>Play Overwatch in October of 2016
>Play Overwatch again in June 2017
>It's a completely different game basically

Damn, TF2 took like what, 6 years before it drastically changed?

>>387679134
Even if you have to instapick into 3 dps already?

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>Hey this hero is pretty fu-
Nerfed
>Hey this hero might be my fav-
Nerfed
>Oh guess I like this new hero, plays gr-
Nerfed

I don't even like this game anymore because I used to play McCree, got fucking re-worked countless times, then moved to Zarya, nerfed into oblivion. Then Ana was my favorite hero in the entire game, she was the breath of fresh air and had such a cool unique kit. And nerfed her again making her unplayable.

>>387680109
Do you not like playing with dva Winston soldier tracer Lucio and mercy every match?

>>387654003
Fun with friends but without m80s you might need to uninstall

>>387679943
Yes absolutely
You are not obliged to play healer if you have shitty PC.

Sometimes those 3 dps switch to something useful sometimes they do not, but at least I get to play hero I want to play.

The match making sucks. Either steam rolling the other team or getting steam rolled.

>>387654671
((((((levels dont mean shit you retard)))))))))

>>387680435
Alright. I will try that.
Hopefuly no reports.

>>387655316
if you cant get past silver then youre actually just awful at fps in general. get good then complain about the game

Just started playing this game again
>play comp game as sniper/mcree
>just switch to another sniper when people bitch at me
>still carry games while memeing

>>387655516
youre bad. nothing else to it fucking scrub

>>387654003
The forced win rate. Blizzard will put you in matches where you will lose, no matter what you do.

Game is an unbalanced pile of shit, nothing good about it and actually taking pride in being good at this pile of shit is just laughable.

>>387654671
they got rid of 1v1 because people complained about not being able to get the lootbox from it because they weren't good enough to win.

>>387655870
>no one talks
If you aren't disabling all of the communication you are a retard.

I played like 10 matches with all communications enabled... I can just say: WOW! LITERALLY and I mean LITERALLY 99 % of all communications are insults. "You fucked up", "kys", "It's your faul", etc. If you are lucky you get ONCE in a match some kind of "Winston low". That's it. The Blizzard community is just shit. Either Blizzard will add a "god tier community", where only the good guy will play together, or I stay out of all communications

>>387680583
Try not to care too much about gaining or losing rank it sucks the fun out of the game.

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>>387654003
>tumblr character designs
>ugly dreamworks artstyle
>microtransactions
>shoehorned moba features that ruin the gameplay and reward bad players who can now simply press Q to win
>the playerbase consists of casual normalfags, cucks, gamer gurls, and redditors exclusively
>tries too hard to be an esport when it has less depth than mario party
>5 maps, all of which are bad
>roughly 90% of the characters are kangz
>updates usually consist of more microtransaction skins instead of meaningful content
>its made by blizzard, the arch jew of video game companies
>shit balance
>shit hitboxes

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>>387654465
>strategy

>>387669898
>pros manage to play solo queue
Except they don't.

They all play duo

>>387680109
McCree was fine even after the nerfs. You just needed 50% accuracy and at least 10+ headshots a game.

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>>387654003
The game pisses and disappoints me because prior to the beta and the official release, the game managed to catch my attention. I was hyped as hell really. However, the moment I got my hands on the open beta, that's where I realized that the game was bland to me. Even when I was gifted a copy of the game, the game still failed to remove my boredom from the beta. I do not see any difference between the beta and the released copy (mind you, I received the copy when Sombra was teased).
The game has problems that pisses me off ranging from bad map design and boring gameplay to forgettable characters and a scummy method to get skins using real life cash. This game has problems that I doubt will be changed in the future and even if they do plan on changing some, it'll take a long time for them to do so.

Is doomfist overpowered or does it just look that way? Instakill where you just need to aim in your enemies general direction feels a bit op

>>387661076
I dont get why a winston should be able to be oneshotted by a scatter, he's supposed to go for the landing damage and there's no other way to initiate the engagement with a sniper, but every time he has to pray the E is on cooldown.

>meta picks
>if you don't pick them you're automatically trolling
>cancerous playerbase

Finally gave up on this game last month. It's gotten boring and not worth the time or effort.

It's the fact that if I fuck up, it would be on me and I feel bad letting down my team.

>>387662448
Hog is so useless now that i actually get depressed about it because he was so much fun to play before

>>387670161

>pharah
>depth

>>387662448
This is bait. Genji is constantly being healed by an Ana then a Lucio. Hog could have killed him without the healing.

>>387654003
Would have loved everything about overwatch if it was a single player game with a significantly large campaign.

>>387682665
did your team not enjoy your attack torb picks?
fucking meta sheep

>>387679795
This, but one month later both ways. I went to HotS for the weeb Genji skin, and haven't stopped playing since.
Mr Sister fister is pretty fun, and tilts the ever living shit out of bads.

>>387655114
This is fucking stupid. If you have put several tens to hundreds of hours into the game you should improve. The only people who parrot the idea that this isn't the case are brain-dead fags like yourself.

>Just found out how fun winston is
> Genji and hamzo literally scare shitless and run away when you chase them

Lol

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>>387683470
Oh how happy we all will be when you children are back in school.

>>387681167
>all those shitter excuse

Lol my sides, that's literally grade school shit

>>387659109
>Multiplayer Online Battle Arena
A name so fucking vague it could encompass any multiplayer game ever made.

Going to blog a bit but I played the shit out of this game on release. It's absolute crap now, or maybe it was always crap. I tried to get back into it recently, just playing quick play because I needed to practice again. Every game without fail is the same shit, hanzo and a widow. someone firstpicks widow, other one goes hanzo, almost as if to spite the widow. These games are at least 70% of my games the past week, and I'm not exaggerating. It may just be a regional thing (I'm USW) but people with korean names usually are friendly and try to win without picking snipers, or if they do pick genji/widow they are actually good at them and play them in their pick role properly instead of just hardscoping for sick kills. I know if I get into competitive I'll just fall into the trap of being the guy who plays support, and while I'm good on almost every support character, I feel like I carry games the most on dps when I have a good support behind me. Which is lightning in a bottle. People say forced 50 doesn't exist, but the majority of players play dps, so you will get matched with people who don't want to play support or are bad at it, because there's no 'role queue' in this game (some mobas got this right) so there's this awkward fucking fumbling around.

Give support players faster queues but lock them into picking supports. Like MMOs and MOBAs do. Stop throwing 5 fucking randoms into a team and expecting them to work it out, this game's design philosophy for competitive is absolute shit.

>b-but dynamic team compositions!
eat shit, this game is way more fun when both teams have equal comps of dps/tank/supports

>>387654003
2 cp

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>entire thread
>1 webm

My condolences

>>387654003
1. It's practically impossible for individual players to distinguish themselves and carry teams by doing well, but any idiot can throw games and fuck over his team. This results in everyone being pissed off and jaded towards their teammates all the time, especially since the ELO system only records wins and loses. Bad players blame their team instead of getting better, and good players don't get rewarded for doing good. Not only is Overwatch not fun, it's so anti-fun that it actively pisses off people who play it whether they realize it or not.
2. I went in expecting an actual FPS, and found that whatever set of skills Overwatch requires has nothing to do with actual competitive FPS games. Maybe it's more like a MOBA or something? I've never played a MOBA so I wouldn't know.
3. The fact that I paid like $40 for it, but still have more fun with games that are free like Dirty Bomb and Paladins.

>>387683972
wtf?