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>underpowered as fuck hardware so it can be marketed as a DVD
>terrible controller
>a billion different adapters for things that the xbox, gamecube and dreamcast could do out of the box
>memory cards
>worst version of every multiplat that wasn't intentionally gimped on other systems
>80% of its library is literal weebshit, nothing but garbage jrpgs
>multiplayer was basically nonexistent
>only 2 controller ports
>terrible picture quality compared to every other console, practically unusable on a modern tv

It really was the worst console of the 6th gen
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>>387599969
>all those complaints
>still the best games of 6th gen

really makes you wonder
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>>387599969
Zone of the enders
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Shouldn't you be in line to buy some autismo amiibos?
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>>387599969
>It really was the worst console of the 6th gen
But it had the best games
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>>387599969
You forgot
>Outlasts the PS3 and potentially the PS4

Seriously, if you broke a PS2 you're retarded.
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It played the normalcore games that normies wanted, and it had the japanese games that hardcore gamers craved, AND it also had shooters dudebros like.

It was the weakest of the bunch, but still quite impressive. It had the best marketting and it was the most easily pirated console as well. Plus it played PS1 games that were by far the most popular from the previous gen. The DVD player was a nice plus, but it's not the biggest factor.
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>>387600145
Its breaks through normal usage, its called a Sony timer for a reason
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>>387599969
how bored are you anon and why out of all the things you could possibly be doing you chose to start this shitty thread
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>>387600143
One day that'll be me

Just wait
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I agree its overrated. Huge library of games, but always the worst multiplats. Even many exclusives ran like shit. CD tray motor prone to failure.
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>>387599969
proof that the library makes the console, not the features
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>>387601219
Just install sata network adapter dude
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>>387600143
>15

How many webms like this do you have?
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>>387599969
>>a billion different adapters for things that the xbox, gamecube and dreamcast could do out of the box
be more specific with your shitposts please
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>>387599969
So which was the best....
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>>387601308
explain the wii u's failure and the playstation 4's success
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>>387599969
>underpowered as fuck hardware
every console is underpowered to keep the price low
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>>387599969
Gee, sure is contrarian in here...
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>>387600143
source?
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>>387600145
I'd you wanted to praise the PS2, build quality was the worst angle to take
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>>387601714

Nah It's the typical denial of Nintendo being destroyed pathetically two times in a row while pretending to befriend microbabbys
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>>387599969
>terrible controller
listen, I can understand the rest, but the dualshock 2 is great
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>>387599969
>At the time mother convinces me to purchase a PS2
>Goes wholly unused
At least I got the R&C series out of that. Fucking loved those games.
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Most of its library hasn't stood the test of time.
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>>387601897
>no analog triggers
>great
pick one
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>>387601917
What game actually has? Compare how fondly remembered most PS2 games are compared to something like Halo CE or Morrowind or RE4 that people still obsess over to this day.
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The PS2 was fantastic for the exclusives and a few multiplats (later releases of the Prince of Persia games for example had bug fixes not done for other systems) it was also dirt cheap and lots of people had one but for the majority of vidya it underperformed heavily usually resulting in half the performance and visual quality compared to XBOX which was the best console of that gen.
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>>387602000

People remember RE4 as a PS2 game (most people played it on it) and Morrowind is remembered more as a PC game. I give you Halo
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>>387602192
>People remember RE4 as a PS2 game

Said no one fucking ever. Even to this day it's remembered best on GC or Wii.
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>>387602269
>>387602192
wasn't the PS2 version the reason why Mikami left Capcom in the first place?
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>>387602269

Not really, real life is not /v/ and most sales from RE4 come from PS2

Nintendo doesn't even have the best version of the game now that the HD remaster is in newer consoles, you have nothing
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>>387601980
You didn't need them in early 2000 and most games didn't use them anyway
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>>387602192
Huh, I didn't even know RE4 was released on the PS2.
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>>387599969
>all that shit you wrote
>still Doesn't matter or change a goddamn thing and history is history

LMAO
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>>387601608
marketing
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>>387601608
Did you read what he said? Don't interprit that as a licence to think anyone ever gives a shit about Nintendo exclusives that far. Give people two options anon,
>all your multiplats in one convinent current gen place, but a few exclusives
Vs
>nothing but first party exclusives but hardly ANY of the multiplats you really want

People just decide each gen which box this will be, and for 3/4 gens Sony has been in, it's been a PlayStation. The top tier experince of thst gen was to own a PS2 and a Gamecube. Gave you everything worth having.
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>>387602431
Yup. He said something along the lines of "if it's ever on anything but GC I'm gone"

>>387602471
>you have nothing

I have the PC HD version (the best version) so I don't know what you mean by that.
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>>387602000
Depends who you are asking, i never owned an xbox so i don't have fon memories of Halo CE at all, loved Tekken 5 and MGS3 though! And are we about to pretend we don't still talk about MGS3??
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>>387602269
Day one purchaser of RE4 on gamecube here. I disagree. When i showed it on my gamecube (thanks transport handle) to all me m8's they were blown away by it. Did they buy a gamecube? Did they fuck. Did they all buy it on PS2 later despite never having played a classic RE in their lives? Abso-fucking-lutely the did.
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>underpowered as fuck hardware so it can be marketed as a DVD
Software > Hardware

>terrible controller
Terrible taste

>a billion different adapters for things that the xbox, gamecube and dreamcast could do out of the box
Almost none of which are necessary to own, save for maybe a multitap and guncon. The former is if you only have friends, which I'm guessing you don't.

>memory cards
Take your saves with you to a friend's house, which again, I'm almost certain you've never had one.

>worst version of every multiplat that wasn't intentionally gimped on other systems
Bullshit

>80% of its library is literal weebshit, nothing but garbage jrpgs
Bullshit

>multiplayer was basically nonexistent
Bullshit

>only 2 controller ports
There were only 20 or so 4 player games, which could be rectified with a $10 adaptor. Much better than paying an extra $40 for them to come with your console.

>terrible picture quality compared to every other console
Bullshit

>practically unusable on a modern tv
0/10
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>>387599969
>practically unusable on a modern tv

Imma stop you right there sir
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>>387603870
fuck I literally heard the guitar riff
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>>387599969
Yes, but God Hand.
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>>387599969
It wasn't that underpowered when it was just shown in like 1999 retard, of course two console that came out 3 years later would be more powerful.
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>>387603970
Still use it to this day on Tekken 7 via Jukebox
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>>387603870
Will you stop posting this in every fucking thread you're in? this is like advanced autism at this point.
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>terrible picture quality on
it's acceptable, shows its age but still acceptable
sound may be an issue depending on if you have a soundbar or whatever though, mine sounds like utter shit on a flat screen without one
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>>387604224
>s-stop posting in PS2 threads with your PS2 especialy if it's not just to shit all over it!

Have some more buddy, the fuck you gonna do? Report me for posting video games?? Call the cops.
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>>387599969
Excuse me, rogue galaxy is a good game thank you.
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>>387600145
I know I'm using an anecdote here, but my best friend when I was younger had to RMA six fat PS2s and three slims within their year warranties, all for different things. I personally never had a problem with my PS2 nor did any of my other friends, and all of his other consoles never had problems like that. Just funny that you mention that.
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>>387599969
I still have my launch PS2 that works fine. Looks great on a modern 4K TV with component cables too. I'm afraid you are retarded.
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>>387604360
Call you autistic of course. I don't get why you need to spam threads with your small collection and your retarded way of playing on your PS2.
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>>387599969
But do they have the ace combat trilogy?
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>>387599969
>underpowered as fuck hardware so it can be marketed as a DVD
Yes, the normies bought it as a DVD player because when it came, it was still the cheapest dvd player out there.

>terrible controller
you obviously never played with the xbox duke
>a billion different adapters for things that the xbox, gamecube and dreamcast could do out of the box
like what? The xbox needed a separate controller for the dvd all the while the gamecube did not even have a dvd
>memory cards
Yes, kinda like the gamecube and the console before it?
>worst version of every multiplat that wasn't intentionally gimped on other systems

depends on the game
>80% of its library is literal weebshit, nothing but garbage jrpgs
2 different statements and both untrue, sure there where allot of JRPGs but there where allot of everything on ps2. And you could go the entire generation without even playing a JRPG.

>multiplayer was basically nonexistent
True because whom wanted to play mp on a console to begin with?
>only 2 controller ports
you really don't need to play anything other then a SP
>terrible picture quality compared to every other console, practically unusable on a modern tv
Like every other consoles before 360 and ps3 era? really makes me think.
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>>387599969
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As an oldfag who was 11-12 when this console cycle started I can safely say that the PS2 was the console to have solely for it's software library. I got a GC for Xmas the year it launched. It held me over for a while, but there were maybe 4-5 games on it and after a few months I kind of just reverted to playing my old PS1 games. I finally got a PS2 the following summer. GTA3 was incredible at the time and I probably sunk more time into that than any other game. It had a ton of great titles that I was able to experience for the first time especially with RPGs which were pretty much non existant on GC, especially at launch. Over the course of both consoles lifespan I'd say it was 80/20:PS2/GC as far as actual game playing goes. Never had an Xbox though. Played Halo at friends houses, but that's it. Was never interested in its library.
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>>387604941
>Never had an Xbox though. Played Halo at friends houses, but that's it. Was never interested in its library.

You would own an XBOX for the superior version of multiplats.
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>>387603870
>I enjoy input delay and blurry visuals
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>>387604645
Because it upsets you is a new reason i guess. Why can't you enjoy PS2 as much as i do anon? Only you are upset here. In fact i realised i come to these threads happy, because despite it being a "fuck the PS2 thread, people are still discussing the PS2 so im all good.
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>>387605039
Correct. Still my main go to for vidya.
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>>387605059
>Why can't you enjoy PS2 as much as i do anon?

Considering I have a PS2 and a larger collection than you I think it's safe to say I enjoy it more. I'm just upset that you spam your inferior set-up like it's worth a damn.
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>>387604645
>I will never be as angry as you are right now

Have a picture of my PS2 collection to help cheer you up.
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>>387599969
wtf I'm nostalgic now, loved my PS2 as a kid.

Anywho, the controller is not terrible by any stretch. It wouldn't have been carried over to the PS3 if it were that unliked.

Adapters? At least it had adapters to do more stuff, unlike Gamecube which just didn't have as many capabilities. Gamecube never had DVD playback or hard drives.

The library is so huge that it wouldn't matter if 80% were JRPGs, which is absolutely untrue anyway. PS1 and PSP were much more JRPG-heavy.

PS2 basically popularized console online multiplayer in the first place, alongside Xbox Hueg! Did you forget about SOCOM and FFXI already?

You can get one of those adapters you hate to get more controller slots.

And the PS2 is capable of using component cables for certain games that support it, like God of War 2. Otherwise, try using S-Video cables instead of the yellow composite cable that the PS2 ships with. You'll get a sharper picture that way because the s-video cable splits the picture data across multiple pins.
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>>387599969
The PS2 wasn't as under-powered as people think it was, it had the same problem the PS3 has where it is abysmally hard to program and optimize for, whereas Microsoft basically just stuffed a PC into a fancy box and offered DirectX, which was really easy to use.

If you want a real comparison though, some games managed to look / run better on the Gamecube which was way more under-powered than the PS2, just due to the fact it was easier to program for.
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>>387605349
>you can't complain about spam without sonybros getting super defensive and posting pics of their games

Huh. I guess they exist in all generations of Sony consoles.
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>>387604360
where is ape escape 3 you fag
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>>387605349
>all those nice as fuck side covers
what the fuck was we yuropoors thinking
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>>387600145
Uh, no. I've gone through like 3 PS2s in the last 13 years. The disc drives on the phat models love to give out. I've had the same issue with multiple Xbox's as well.

Gamecube had the most reliable hardware of that gen, by far.
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>>387605574
at least the platinum covers are cooler than that red best hits shit
but yeah, i'm jealous now
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>>387605574
Timeless minimalism anon. Those spines are messy and clutered but ours are simplistic and clean and will still look great in their uniformity 30-40 years from now.
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>>387599969
>underpowered as fuck hardware so it can be marketed as a DVD
>if it was too powerful they wouldn't be able to say it was a DVD player
What did he mean by this?
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is ps3 phat best way to play ps2 games through a HD tv?
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>>387605478
Want me to go get my PS1, PS3, PS4, and Vita games?

I've got a Switch and 3DS too, but they aren't nearly as great.
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>>387605478
>he never saw a wiiu lick wound thread
>he never saw toddlers posting his games to not feel betrayed
>xbox having good games ever

It works for all not just one
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>>387605810
Either that, original hardware with component cables or through a framemeister.
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>>387605275
Well idgaf what you think see you next thread :3
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>>387602887

>Its the best cuz its sold the most durh duhr

Popularity =/= Quality/Experience
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>>387605763
Adds to the cost. Making a very powerful system that's also embracing a brand new format would mean it's not the cheapest DVD player around, the PS2's main selling point.
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>>387599969
The PS2 is literally the best console of all time
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>>387606034
That doesn't mean they couldn't say it was a DVD player though.
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>>387600048
Uhmm... nope
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>>387605483
Hmm... Have not bothered to purchase it yet. 1 was my favorite ever and it has the best dub by virtue of being PAL. I still need to get Fatal Frame/Project Zero III too. Im really dissapointed at how much Kuon costs as well because that thing looks aesthetic as fuck.
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>>387606041
>SNES
>NES
>Xbox 360
>Dreamcast
>Atari 2600

nope.. don't see it in the top 5
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>>387599969
>the xbox is most powerful!
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>>387606041
idk man
best selling =/= best

All my friends when I was younger had like a ps2 and like one or two games for it as they weren't dirt cheap like they are now. Most of the poor families used it as a hybrid dvd player and they broke super frequently.
How the fuck you gonna go through 4 ps2's with only tony hawk on it, junior???
cmon man.
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>>387605989
And yours is entirely subjective, so we need SOME kind of measurement i suppose, but even THAT wouldn't be enough for you, because every thread people who owned one always say "fuck off retard" to which they get called the "defence force"

PS2 + GC for best time ever. Deal with it.
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>>387605883
Is that all? Want me to get my PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4, Vita XBOX, 360, N64, GC, Wii, Wii-U, Switch, GB, GBA, DS, 3DS, Mega-Drive, Saturn, Dreamcast, PC games?
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>>387606147
pal ape escape 3 has the best dubs if you're into that but the only good dub for 1 is the japanese one
it's also fucking cheap, what are you waiting for
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>>387606171
>xbox360
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>>387600145
eh, for fats maybe. two slims shat themselves on me but my fat is still kickin it
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>>387606380
>not enjoying PALs BASED Specter dub

https://youtu.be/c40JKwAmTXI
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>>387605451
>some games managed to look / run better on the Gamecube which was way more under-powered than the PS2

The Gamecube was only slightly less powerful than the Xbox, which made it actually a lot more powerful than the PS2. The idea that the Gamecube is underpowered is a meme that popped out of nowhere from console warring teenagers living in an era where looking up hardware specs on a whim wasn't as easy to do.
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>>387606527
doesn't make me as hard as chika sakamoto
it's still ok considering the other western dubs, except the italian one dubbed by grey fox/otakon. that was nice too
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>>387606171
>SNES
>better than ps2
Why people think this when many complaints about the ps2 library's are found worse in the snes?
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>>387605451
>>387606661

Gamecube was about twice as powerful as the PS2 and the Xbox was about twice as powerful as the Gamecube.

PS2 was just way more popular because:
1. It doubled as a DVD player.
2. It came out first and had a head start.
3. It was cheaper (a function of lower power and coming out first, meaning it started getting discounts/sales while GCN and Xbox were still pushing full price)
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>>387606171
did you really, unironically, seriously list the atari 2600?
>>387606431
what do you even do in these games? are these vns? mahjong? puzzle games? are these even good at all?
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>>387606961
>It came out first and had a head start

DreamCast would like a word with you about this gen winning gameplan.
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>>387606801
oo I'm gonna stop ya right there. the SNES had way more all time classics, and games that would become some of the most fondly remembered of all time. I've also owned one snes and 3 ps2's.
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>>387607057
>did you really, unironically, seriously list the atari 2600?
How is the atari 2600 not one of the most important and greatest consoles ever made you mong?
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>>387607107

kek, you're not wrong there. I'm honestly not sure why the Dreamcast flopped so hard. Maybe just a failure of marketing? Maybe because SEGA's reputation had tanked so hard by then after a few generations of other console failures? Dreamcast was a solid system, but so few people latched onto it.
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>>387607120
I'm not lying pal you need to look at the SNES library to see how much shit it had
Take a look at how many "Super" games it had and have a revelation
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>>387607182
the magnavox odyssey is also historically important but it has no games worth playing in 2017
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>>387606365
Just owning them isn't enough. Bet you haven't even beaten a fourth of what you have. You're what I like to call "a filthy fucking casual"
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>>387599969
>underpowered as fuck hardware so it can be marketed as a DVD
Moron, do you realized that the games are in DVDs?
>terrible controller
Horseshit. Guess you got a Mad Catz or a broken controller.
>a billion different adapters for things that the xbox, gamecube and dreamcast could do out of the box
Are you talking about multitaps?
>memory cards
There's an HDD option, available. Also, memory cards were pretty normal back then.
>worst version of every multiplat that wasn't intentionally gimped on other systems
...Not really. There are multiplat games that are worse than the PS2 version.
>80% of its library is literal weebshit, nothing but garbage jrpgs
Bullllshit. Did you even look at the thousands of games in the library.
>multiplayer was basically nonexistent
Yeah, this is bait.
>only 2 controller ports
Very bait.
>terrible picture quality compared to every other console, practically unusable on a modern tv
I understand that.
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>>387606365
Sure, let's see them, cunt.

Or are you too chicken?
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@387599969
All that and PS2 still rule the generation.
Someone needs a whambulance and some milk.
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>>387606961
>2. It came out first and had a head start.
This is the only thing you posted that is possibly true. Doubling as a DVD player was a nice touch, but it wasn't the selling point. There were cheaper DVD players available despite what people want to think today.

The PS2 was always matched to the price of the Xbox and the GC was always cheaper. So your last argument just proves you don't know shit.
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>>387607504
Because people became less and less interested with being told they want to play arcade games, which was what Sega did. Arade games. It was part of their heritage, and is still highly profitable for them in Japan.
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Hello, we're the three best PS2 games.
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>>387601608
Wii-U was a stupid idea that was also poorly marketed, also the good exclusives weren't that many
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The PS2 controller hasn't changed much since the original PS1c but it has never been a bad controller. All the consoles had memory cards. But what really made the PS2 better then the Xbox?

I think the Xbox was underrated as hell. All the games that they shared look better on the Xbox, Xbox had 4 controller ports and the Xbox exclusives were pretty good. They made a ton of Japanese games for the Xbox and I think it had the better controller. It's a shame that the original Xbox is the best of the 3 Xbox consoles.
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>>387599969
Still the highest seller of the generation, and one of the most sold of all time. Get fucked and stay salty you jelly ass fuck boy.
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>>387600143
Source on webm that's fucking crazy.
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