ITT: Dumb game mechanics everyone either does wrong and/or uses

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>>387597058
>Collectibles.

>>387597058
>When someone yells they're reloading
>When someone calls it a clip when its clearly a fucking magainze
>shotguns can't hit anything further than 5 feet away
>Sniper rifles are insanely accurate but single firing an assault rifle isn't
>gun sway
>OPs pic
>suppressed weapons are ninja silent

>>387597592
Found the /k/ommando.

Crafting

>Guns have no bullet drop

>>387598038
>guns have over exaggerated bullet drop

>>387597592
What's wrong with yelling that you're reloading? Seems like a good way to tell a teammate not to expect much from you for a bit.

>>387599818
Also lets the enemy know that you're extremely vulnerable.

CRAFTING SYSTEMS
ENCUMBRANCE
CRAFTING SYSTEMS COMBINED WITH ENCUMBRANCE

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>durability

>>387599818
>he didn't baited the kraut with his m1 reload
lmao

>>387601209
>Weapons are so shitty they break after ten swings.

Crafting being limited by your skills when there's literally dozens of NPC blacksmith/crafters that can actually make stuff.

>hip firing the gun makes the bullets go absolutely all over the place as if not raising the gun up to your eyes makes the barrel all floppy and wobbly

>>387601036
>crafting system in a RPG
>it's either useless or gamebreaking, never in between

>>387597058
no political discussion on /v/

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>game has fires
>they burn nothing

WHY DID YOU EVEN BOTHER

>>387602168
>not firmly placing the butt of the gun in your pit area

i mean your retarded but come on fucking retarded retardo

>>387602168
>you can actually witness the bullets leaving the barrel at oblique angles

>>387602403
Hip firing is a thing, look up 'point shooting'.

>>387602403
what is your major malfunction?

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>>387602358
>game has fires
>they burn absolutely everything
OH GOD MAKE IT STOP

>Major decision.
>Game doesn't save as it's happening, forcing shitters to deal with their choices.

>>387600958
I doubt you can get an actual advantage in the few seconds it takes for your enemy to reload in actual combat while his friends continue to fire at you

>switching to semi automatic magically makes the gun more accurate

>>387602774
But that's a good mechanic

>>387602792
Try playing R6 Siege. There's nothing worse than being in a little peeking battle with an enemy just to scream "I'M DRY!" at the top of your lungs, or to bellow what gadget you're using/placing to let every enemy in a five mile radius know that you don't currently have your gun out.

>>387602871
Found the shitter.

>>387602847
That's how guns work, though.

>>387602959
Are you dumb

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>>387602736
>those fucking extra rations

>>387603001
If you squeeze off single rounds, it makes no difference where the little knob is.

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>>387603002
>Savescumming major decisions is OK 'cause I'm autistic and can't cope with consequences. Everything's gotta be perfect!

>>387603057
You know what he's talking about you shit.

>>387603065
are you actually retarded?

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>>387603065
Am I being baited
>Major decision.
>Game doesn't save as it's happening, forcing shitters to deal with their choices.

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>>387603065

>>387602890
except only friendlies hear those lines you retard

>>387603241
>>387603260
>>387603449
>Reading comprehension.

The ubisoft climb the tower to unlock the map shit
Also trying to pad games out with boring activities and shitty collectables

>>387603759
As of about a year ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/comments/3yg8gr/operators_should_not_be_randomly_yelling_out_what/

>>387603816
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>387603940
your retarded point is what? that you are even a bigger degenerate?
only you teammates hear those lines and that has been like that since the beginning

>>387601209

Weapon/armor durability is like anti-fun. I absolutely despite it in every game. I don't care if it makes the game more strategic, it fucking sucks.

>>387604161
If you can't be bothered to read then I can't be bothered to debate.

>>387597592
>it's a /k/ autism episode

>>387603940
>about a year ago
>linking to plebbit
pls be ironic

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>>387604161
>it's been like that since the beginning

>>387604290
A source is still a source and I'm not sure if you know this or not but the game has been out for longer than a year so it hasn't been like this since the beginning at all.

>>387604062
Nigga, you just can't read. Why would NOT saving during a major decision cause players to deal with it? It was all part of one negated clause.

>>387604161
>>387603065
looks like we have found the retard king and the retard queen of the thread

>>387604296
>1 month after release
yes thats the beginning

>>387604459
I don't understand.

>>387602358
Is this Shogun 2?

I like how Metro's guns feel
also play on hardcore, is easier

>>387604206
It usually doesn't, especially if game has ways to restore durability immediately.
It's just a pointless tedium.

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>aim through sights
>good accuracy
>blind fire
>bullets fly in the form of some sort of cone

>experience systems outside of RPGs
>crafting
>procedural generation

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>>387601209
>play system shock 2
>gun breaks from firing it 20 times

>>387604864
I've basically trained my brain to always aim down sights. And like half the time it gets me killed. I just can't blind fire.

>>387597592
/k/ommands are the worst, they're never happy and nitpick every fucking detail

>>387604405
I think you mean saving AFTER a decision. If you save during than it sounds like you can go back.

>>387605330
nigger do you know where you are

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>>387597058
>can ''reload'' a camera / flashlight / literally anything electronic by sticking random batteries you find laying around that probably aren't even the same match inside them

>>387597058
Hitscan weapons

>>387602252
>>387601209

FFXIV did it really well. Thenagain it is an MMO so dunno if it counts

>>387602252
Now to be fair there, it's very difficult to balance. If you can find the best weapons, then why bother crafting? And if you have to craft the best weapons, then crafting because absolutely necessary.

>>387597058

>sevastapol has a gun problem but somehow all you find is a handgun and a old model shotgun

>>387605330

kill yourself you noguns faggot

>>387604795
I could understand the 'adds strategy' argument to, say, those survival crafting open world games that are all over the place, but that's really it.

>>387602403
I'm firmly placing your mom's butt in my crotch area

>>387606254
The problem in that instance is having 'best weapons', just like any RPG with 0.0001% drop rates for best in slot equipment.
The patrician system will always be having a variety of weapons that are essentially as powerful as each other but that can be used drastically differently from each other for different situations, but asking devs to employ interesting and fun mechanics like that instead of just BIGGER NUMBERS is too much I guess

>>387606520
Witcher 3 durability is why-do-you-exist tier.

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when I build my cities I break them up into polygons, break those up into ssimpler polygons and use a grid system inside those

>>387607197
O-okay?

>>387607291
sorry wrong thread

>>387601209
Durability can be good.

>>387597058
some of us are missing bodyparts and needs to support the sniper on our chest instead

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>>387601209
>dutrability
>Game has no mod or cheat to disable it

>>387597592
>unnecessary realism at the cost of fun gameplay

>>387609270
>innacurate shotguns
>fun in any way

>>387608958
name a single case where durability added any fun to the game

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>Game relays on selling loot as the main source of income
>Has a very limited inventory space
>You have to do a few runs to town if you wanna sell it all
>No way to upgrade your inventory space
>Bonus points if it takes a while till you get there

>>387609232
>he doesn't like having to repair after 10 uses
What is wrong with you?

>>387609656
It's only acceptable if it takes a while for things to break and you din't have to deal with even more inventory management to fix stuff. But then, why even have it in the first place?

>>387609656
Stalker cop

>>387609656
Way of the Samurai series

>>387609656
Nioh alpha.
Durability-restoring items were limited, so you had to save your best weapons for big fights and use disposable weapons to clear out minor enemies. Dying to a boss over and over had actual consequence as your weapon's durability would decrease each time until it was no longer usable, rewarding good players and punishing shitters.

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>>387609656

>>387610468
But that's boring as fuck.

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>single player game stops you from using swears

>>387597592
>yelling youre reloading
>a voluntary, speech version of a ping
It didnt bother me until you pointed it out, goddammit.

>>387610468
Oh hey, it's that autist again.
I'm so glad they actually listened to feedback and took this shit out, durability in a loot-based game with an awful clusterfuck in menus present at all times would be a crime against humanity.

>>387597336
Collectibles can be fun if the dev isn't a drunk who goes with the mainstream

>>387601209
Its was fine with POP Warrior Within. You had a reliable base weapon that never broke and got all your other weapons from enemies that are in high supply. But fuck this mechanic in Dark Could it ruined the game for me.

>>387602792
so what you're saying is it's pointless to yell you're reloading because it only takes a few seconds to rectify that. Glad you agree it's a pointless move.

>>387604934
Are you me?

>>387604432
yeah okay pal

this whole fucking site is the royal court of stupidity and confrontation and we are all dukes and duchesses

>>387610387
Way of the Samurai did it well because you could avoid breaking your weapon by playing well and planning your attacks and defense moves properly. Also you could break enemy weapons and make them useless.

>>387606216
Durability in XIV is the same stupid irrelevant-until-it-breaks-and-then-just-an-inconvenience system as every other mmo and crafting is just another make-sub-par-stuff-at-max-level-and-literally-worthless-trash-before-that shitfest.

>>387609803
>loss
hah

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>>387610667
>multiplayer component of singleplayer game that's known for it's gratuitous profanity has a chat filter

>>387610468
Oh so it's git gud quick or you won't be able to advance. Good to know I should have improved before playing the game. Get experience to get a job, after all.
>b-b-but you can make another save
You can neck yourself.

>>387613728

>killing hookers ok
>sexing hookers NO
>killing old people ok
>gore NO

>>387612237
Way better than those "durability until it breaks forever lmao" systems. Sure it sucks, but how else could they do this system?
Crafting is fun in the sense of "making items is kinda fun and not just "click and wait to make items". Also you can choose to level crafters as you start the game and craft your gear that way. Its also comfy. That being said, you're not wrong.

>>387603012
I'd ration her with my dick

>>387598038
Overwatch

>>387606216
>FFXIV did it well
No it didn't, they might as well remove Durability from the game because it's serves no point but to move people out of dungeons or force them to port to a town to repair for 2k gil which is nothing.

>>387602358
Fire burns down gates

>>387602075
>crafting you do as a general adventurer is always better than crafting by tradesmen who do it for a living

>>387601209
I actually like durability, but I have the kind of autism where I think more numbers and variables make a game more fun.

>>387609656
Fire emblem

>>387617840
You're not alone, friend. I prepare meticulously for every battle in an RPG, even though it almost never makes a difference.

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>>387597592
>firing a sniper rifle while aiming down the sight has 100% accuracy hitscan shots
>firing a sniper rifle without using the sight makes the bullet go in literally any direction but the center of the crosshair

>>387602736
Shit like this is why I stopped playing with randoms in Dont Starve Together
>let me put all these berry bushes next to this fire pit
>let me never build a lightning rod despite having 10 drying lacks lined up adjacently to each other
>let me put everything REALLY FUCKING CLOSE TOGETHER
>"wow why is the camp on fire you guys suck"

>>387609656
Don't starve.

>>387608958
I find it works well in post apocalyptic/survival games. The pipe guns from FO4 should've had durability, since realistically they would fall apart after 5 shots,

>>387597058
>upgrade weapon to do more damage
>still has the same bullet and cartridge size
>making the weapon automatic makes it do less damage

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>game has skill tree implying you can specialize your character for a certain playstyle
>you can get all the skills
fucking ubisoft games

>>387605830
Especially a flashlight.
I'd be more more surprised that there are D batteries lying around everywhere than handguns or bars of gold all over the place.

>>387597592
>When someone yells they're reloading

I can't remember if it was battlefield but there's a game where your character yells shit and sometimes you can't hear it but the enemy can, which results in situations like you trying to be stealthy only to have your loudmouth character give away your position without you wanting to

>>387597592
>full auto rifle has almost no recoil and may as well be a laser
>but semi auto rifles have huge recoil so good luck firing more than one round in quick succession accurately

>>387619531
Every time I see a Don't Starve post, I just keep getting reminding that I still have to buy a couple of those figures they sell.

>>387619993
Fuck this in particular

The fun thing about having a skill tree is carving out your own niche.

>>387620859
Exactly the reason why I didn't play The Secret World
>get excited for the game
>crafting is a minecraft-esque system
>abilities are determined by weapon used
>you can get proficiency and skills with all weapons

>>387608958
>>387619710
Durability was a great mechanic in Fallout NV, especially if you play as a melee character.
Instead of taking the best weapon and sticking with it, you actually had to strategically plan which weapon to use when.
To not waste the durability of better Weapons on weaker enemies you should always bring a weaker alternative weapon with you. That makes the game more interesting than the bland "this weapon has a higher number than the other weapon that's why I will only use this one from now on" gameplay that made Fallout 4 so boring.

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>>387598434

>>387621389
Exactly what I was thinking of

regenerating health
cover systems

>>387605330
>Dont like things that are wrong
"Oh what a nitpicker"

>>387601209
I like dark souls 2 durability because it forces you to use multiple weapons.

>>387621874
it doesn't, unless you're using absolute garbage you can pull through the area with one weapon
durability in all souls games is an absolute garbage and i can't wait for the moment From will simply ditch it the fuck out

>>387601209
BOTW does it excellently

>>387619993
fallout 4 and fallout new vegas kinda fucked this up

>>387622471
It straight removes any incentive to find better weapons because they will be broken in 10 hits, and by extension greatly hurts the exploration.
Final nail in the coffin is master sword, after that shit was piling in my inventory aimlessly.
At the very least bow should've been static but upgradeable.

>>387620859
So why not make a new character then?

>>387622728
>It straight removes any incentive to find better weapons because they will be broken in 10 hits
But that's retarded and reversed. It INCENTIVIZES getting good weapons constantly because you're burning through them. And gives you a meaningful reward for exploration way more regularly.

Master Sword runs out of power regularly so nothing was "piling" in your inventory unless you literally just left the game running for the sword to recharge every fucking time. And honestly if you just singlemindedly used the master sword no fucking wonder you didn't enjoy the game it rewards creative play and you're trying to play it in the most vanilla way imaginable
>At the very least bow should've been static but upgradeable.
For what FUCKING purpose should the bow have been a single bow with upgrades? Are you genuinely retarded?

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>>387605330
it usually helps when guns act like fucking guns in a video game you fucking nigger

>>387597058
Diving controls.

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>>387620202
>GET ON THE FREAKIN CAP
>that horrible feeling when the spy says it while hiding

>>387609656
Dark Cloud?

>>387622920
>It INCENTIVIZES getting good weapons
It incentivizes using durable trash and saving good weapons for later because you can't really even "use" them, they are destroyed after two opponents.
>Master Sword runs out of power regularly
It's enough to clear virtually any encounter in the game and recharge doesn't take that long compared to the size of a world.
>For what FUCKING purpose should the bow have been a single bow with upgrades?
For the same reason this awful durability system should've been never introduced in first place: to give you a feeling of actual investment into your character instead of carrying a bunch of throwaway shit.

>>387605330
>/k/ommands are the worst
Play some shooters with projectile weapons and hitscan weapons. See how crap it is.

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>>387597592
>silencers decrease damage

Not being able to kill npcs.

Hearing NPCs talk about your exploits.

>>387603065
>Savescumming
since when is reloading a game a bad thing?

>>387597592
>realism > weapon balance
never ever make a game or give feedback to people who make games, please.

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>>387602358
>Game has fire
>It spreads in seconds and covers massive areas

>>387601209
Why do the souls games even have durability, at least it sort of did something in DS1 with the crystal weapons but since then it's just got more and more pointless

>>387624942
I hate this too, but what else should it be to make it balanced? Your giving yourself the quieter gun in exchange for damage. If not, than there is literally no reason not to be using a silencer, because it's better in every way. A gun that shoots and is loud is worse than a gun that shoots and is quiet.

>>387609656
Diablo 2

>>387626893
with crystal weapons you just made save backups and used them in pvp to your heart's content
this garbage should really just get removed

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>>387605260
I have this issue way too much. Also had a crouch reflex to make myself smaller, the result was I just got headshotted a lot. Whenever im in a tight spot I spend 1 second aiming down sights rather than just shooting

>>387619993
>far cry 3 is about not only adapting to the jungle, but mastering it.
>in order to do that you must master all aspects of the jungle
The best part of the game is becoming a bad ass, and then being a bad ass for a while before getting the wingsuit and being a major badass who can virtually fly.

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>>387624942
I assume when you attach a suppressor, you're also loading subsonic rounds which would do (only slightly) less damage

>>387602774
this
savescummers are casual cancer
>wah i did thing and instantly regret it let me try again reeeeeeeee
just hit a save state after every input you trash shitters

>>387616583
the point of durability in MMOs is to slow down bots. they can't grind if their gear is broken

>>387622615
In New Vegas it was pretty much crafted to the pre-dlc level cap(DLCs each increase cap by 5, so goes from 30 to 50), and having a God-ok-all-skills Renaissance man character was much harder with just level 30 although it was still quite powerful. Average skill points per level is probably around 15, x30 you have 450 points to play with which taking tag skills into account you can probably max out about 5-6 skills, but there's what, like 12 skills to choose from? So OP but not as much as it could be. Now add another 300 points and you're a walking death machine and the game loses all challenge.
So you roleplay as a cowboy or as someone who uses nothing but big guns or whatever to prevent yourself from becoming stealth archer.
Meanwhile fallout 4 is just broken and there's no real specialisation that you can do

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>>387626581
I bet you're one of those "iron sights ruined guns in video games" people

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"Recoil" designed by people who have never held a gun in their life. If you've ever actually used a firearm, or even knew shit about game design, you wouldn't put this shit in any game.

>>387628408
That's because they did.

Giving the player "options" but every option isn't equally viable. It's literally deceiving people into thinking the game has more diversity than it does and people will defend it because "hurr casuals".

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>>387614815

>>387602252
WoW in a nutshell
Has been inscription good since WOTLK? No.

>>387629189
for some reason at the start of Legion I made a shitload making those week-long runes and artifacts that only Inscription could make even though they're fucking garbage
I only took it for rp purposes and this is literally the first time it's made me any money

>>387616583
Or you could raise your crafting classes to max and then just repair your armor to higher than max as long as you've got the correct level dark matter on you.

>>387609493
>shotguns do more damage anyways.

its a hammer vs axe vs sword dilemma applied to guns for the sake of balance, deal with it

>>387609656
minecraft

>>387628408
Well, they did, so I don't see your point

>>387622728
>t. never played the game

>>387629520
To be honest, the last time I've seen an actual profession that was usefull in any way on the last expansions are
>jewelry (muh jews)
>Alchemy (fucking God-like buff that lasted 3 days without getting rekt)
>engineering (I think? I remember it was good before for the rogues)

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>>387630312
Oh, but i gave it a fair shot. Unfortunately durability absolutely fucked up the entire experience.

>>387609270
Bohemia Interactive (Arma, DayZ)

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>>387597592
>>387620382
>>387619408
>laser sights on sniper weapons

>>387631448
The only time I've ever seen enemies using laser sights in a way that makes any logical sense was in Crysis. They'll sweep the area with the laser, and if they shine it on you while you're cloaked, it'll give away your position.

>>387622728
>>387630509
durability isn't the reason the system is shit. The system is shit because of how few item classes (ie weapon movesets) there are. Durability is a bandaid to hide this fact. You're only going to use a weapon for a short time and are forced to keep changing, which holds off this realisation for longer.
Compare to previous games in the series with deku nuts, hookshots, etc. Hell, even compare to Skyrim, where the magic system, while it's pretty shit, adds a whole pile of ways to attack things. BotW is a shallow experience with half of the features dedicated to hiding that fact

>>387626590
Far Cry games were fantastic doing that. Even Zelda BOTW did it as well.