When are the "Big Three" going to stop competitng against

ITT: OP is a retard that doesnt know what a monopoly is

Sony is being a dick

>>387566079
None of these companies need to be a monopoly though, Nintendo has funding to last ten years doing nothing but paying employees. They could easily minimize costs and maximize profits if they focused development on one area instead of three. This would mean far more Handheld games instead of 1-2 every few months, and more focused support towards their audience. Wii-U is a prime example of this. It caused droughts for both it, and 3DS due to overwork. On the same scale if sony entirely dropped the Vita and focused on Ps4 they'd be pumping out more content as well, as well as keeping consumers from having to buy multiple devices just to keep up with their products.

That would cause a monopoly, if no there is no one to compete it will only be worse in every way for the consumer. Only if there were several companies forming together separately for whatever reason (e.g. steam+gog+greenman) would this be ok, and even then make no goddamn sense.
There is a reason we have competition and separate companies, even if they did combine they would have to share all profits, which is not desirable.

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>>387566137
Every company waves their ego around like it's their dick when they're top dog, that's not just Sony.

>>387565971
>When are the "Big Three" going to stop competitng against each other and actually instead work with each other to help improve the quality of the market?
When they become nonprofit organizations.

>>387566390
But they still do compete. just in seperate fields. Its still gaming, it still maximizes profits, just for different reasons. Right now theres a very blurred line ebtween owning a PS4, A switch or and Xbone. They all recieve the same games outside a select handful of exclusives, which may or may not be system sellers. It'd make far more sense to eliminate the multiplatform and focus cost and devlopment towards more exclusivity and reason to buy the product.

>>387565971
Because every business company seeks monopoly of the market in which they compete, you don't attain that through cooperation

>>387566543
So if I'm not mistaken what you are suggesting is that each company produce more exclusives for their consoles and have the multiplats not timed or anything like that.
Sounds like an oligopoly to me?

>>387566137
I rather have Sony or Nintendo on top than Xbox, DESUS.

>>387566651
You can, but only if there's no profit motive.
There are a lot of open source projects which have virtual monopolies because they're free in every way, and there's no real way anybody could make money from making a better one.

Maybe we'll get there for gaming, but most gamers still haven't realized the damage to the market that things like monopolies, or conflicts of interest companies invested in both the console market and the PC market can do.

Nintendo should be consoles and Sony should be handheld.

Wii U is a better console than PS4, but the PSP and Vita are better than the 3DS.

>>387566390
>monopoly
Nope. That's a cartel and it's equally illegal and ultimately bad for consumers.

>>387566543
>Right now theres a very blurred line ebtween owning a PS4, A switch or and Xbone.
wat
>PS4 = Has the most highly rated exclusives and the most quantity of exlusives
>Switch = New, so not alot going on except zelda, splatoon 2, and a few literally who games
>xbox = literally a barren wasteland with their latest big exclusives either delayed or cancelled.

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>>387567145
If it seperates the market sure. Right now picking a videogame console is like picking a flavor of ice cream, you either get vanilla, chocolate or strawberry, when you should be getting Ice cream, a Parfait, or a Pie.

>>387567319
>5 generations of handheld libraries versus 2.
Its not even a contest, and personal preference does not override sale numbers. PSP and Vita did awful in market value.

>>387565971
>not wanting all companies in vicious cut-throat competition

It's like you don't want rapid improvement and low prices.

>>387567319
>Wii-U is a better console than PS4
This is so factually wrong it hurts. Wii-U is crippling in any genre that isn't a platformer or an adventure game. It has 0 action games, Barely any fighters, 2-3 Multiplatform shooters, No shmups, No beat em ups, Barely anything arcade or RPG. A good console gives variety. Wii-U is only "good" if you have specified tastes and don't care about the market as a whole, which makes you an inexperienced child with no taste.

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>>387565971
>When are the "Big Three" going to stop competitng against each other and actually instead work with each other
yup, japanese and americans working together has always worked well

>>387565971
>Xbox since the days of the Original has always offered the best hardware and graphic capability
360 and 1 are both weaker than Sony's offering per generation.

>>387567989
>360 is weaker than PS3

That is wrong and you know it.

>>387567697
It has BotW. That alone makes it better. It's also the only way to play TP properly in HD, not to mention the Wii version with normal controls.

>>387568178
Both systems had their strengths. 360 had more general purpose cores, PS3 has the proto GPGPU functionality with the Cell.
In practice developers ignored them and coded to the lowest common denominator to make things portable.

>>387565971
My sugestions
>Remove Microsoft. Even though Sony and Nintendo followed suit, MS started all the whole paid online and DLC bullshit that plague gaming till today. They deserve to be removed.
>Leave Sony and Nintendo.
>They dont compete directly, Nintendo still more casual, varied games with gimmicks, Sony still more mainstream gaming.
>Get them to slowly stop with the jewish practices they picked up from microsoft
>Dont antagonize PC. High end PC gaming still a relatively small niche market. When you see those pictures about the PC market, it is focused on stuff like Dota 2, CSGO, >Overwatch, etc. Low to Mid end games focused on multiplayer that usually dont translate well into consoles.
>Stop with the timed / permanent exclusive stuff, let the devs make the game for whatever platform
>Act like barely decent human beings instead of full jew
There i saved gaming. Sure, the odds of those kind of things happening is 0, but hey, i can dream, cant i?

>>387568557
>It has a game I like, this makes it better than the competition because my subjective tastes say so.

We're talking global scale here. One game, no matter how good does not win you the title of best console.

>>387568557
>It has BotW
>Overrated meme game which is already forgotten
Next.

Nintendo and Sony actually have an amicable relationship in Japan. It Europeans and Americans that start all the console war shit.

>>387568669
>Remove microsoft
Agreed. PC does everything microsoft does better despite locking exclusivity. Microsoft needs to go back to Pure PC development with PC approved controllers, and Modding capabilities for multiplatform titles.

Hell if they want physical, make Physical PC games a thing again. I'd support it. Microsoft is fine but XBOX needs to die in a fire and be reborn

>>387566492
Did it happen with the Wii?
I was too busy with my 360 to notice any jewish tricks from Nintendo last gen

>>387568770
>Nintendo and Sony actually have an amicable relationship in Japan.
If by 'amicable' you mean Sony once tried to seize control of Nintendo, seriously damaged their ability to compete in the next generation by using patents to block them from access to optical discs, and possibly had one of their top executives assassinated.

>>387568712
At the end of the day the console with most hours logged divided by most fun is the best.

>>387568714
For a forgotten game it's pretty popular considering the only people who own it are the few who bought a Wii U. Face the music, nobody owns it on Switch except your every journalists because there aren't even 5 million Switches made. This is the calm before the storm.

>>387567446
>Wii U > Xbone > PS4
Huh

>>387569046
>Nintendo, seriously damaged their ability to compete in the next generation by using patents to block them from access to optical discs
Optical discs existed way before the PlayStation. The TurboGrafx-CD and Sega CD says 'hi'.

>>387568669
>permanent exclusive stuff
That's literally the whole point of owning a console, ever since Sega and Nintendo came on.

>>387568972
Nah you were too busy being a retard getting brainwashed into a bigot retard on /v/.

>>387569046
>Sony literally entered the console wars out of spite for Nintendo, even though they were trying to fuck them over

>>387568669
>MS started all the whole paid online
How to tell someone is underage

>>387569080
>the console with most hours logged divided by most fun is the best.

You're using an entirely subjective line of reasoning. Fun is not a quantifiable numecleacuer And hours logged is based purely on you. Hours you log in a game are not the same hours logged by somebody else.

>>387568870
Unfortunately the Xbox exists in order to advance Microsoft's agenda of locking developers in to Microsoft's platform and getting users accustomed to far more restrictions than currently exist on the PC. Its not going anywhere.
What may be going away is PC gaming as we know it which may be reduced to a small niche market in the future as Microsoft redefines PC gaming to Xbox games from the Windows Store with 10 S, their answer to the problem of third party stores existing.

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>>387569145
>ask about the Wii
>"uuuuuuhhhhh bigot brainwashed retard"

>>387569194
>even though they were trying to fuck them over
Source? The leaked material says that Nintendo fucked them over since they didn't want to give Sony the rightful royalties for using their chip. Not only did they quietly end the deal without telling Sony, they went ahead with their biggest competitor.

It was a very big slap in the face and Sony pretty much enacted eternal revenge by using their r&d to make PSX and btfo everyone.

>>387569128
>Optical discs existed way before the PlayStation.
Not that long before though, and Sony held some of the important patents.
Nintendo was able to successfully back out of the contract that would have essentially reduced them to being a third party developer on their own system with Sony taking the lions share of income, but the cost was that while Sony was fully willing to license the necessary patents to other companies they fucked Nintendo over.

>>387565971
eventually they're all just going to collapse into pc.

nintendo might stick it out the longest, but they can only make gimmick consoles for so long.

sony and xbox are on their deathbeds. their consoles are just prebuilt pc's with a worse OS than windows.

>>387569139
Cheaper, more casual, usually no bad ports, less headache

>>387565971
pretty sure it's big greedy publishers like activision, ea, and ubisoft ruining the industry

they release the same game every year, nothing new, reskinned, barely working, and they are usually loaded with some gimmicky microtransaction or pay to win garbage. I think the corporate people who have the final say are businessmen and not gamers, so we end up with these tacked on cash grabbing gimmicks

call of duty
assasins creed
battlefield
nba, madden, fifa, nhl, ufc, wwe, ety
sims, simcity
tom clancy anything
far cry
mass effect
guitar hero

There's also this standard edition, deluxe edition, gold edition, supreme collectors edition crap. Also definitive editions, season passes, and overpriced dlc.

>>387569548
>sony and xbox are on their deathbeds
>xbox one has been the most profitable xbox console
>ps4 has had the most successful console launch of all time - only rivaled by the dreamcast and ps2, and is on pace to outsell the ps3
yeah, console sure are """""""""""'dying""""""""""

>>387569196
They didnt start, the popularized it.

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>>387569548
>ps4 and xbone outpacing ps3 and 360 sales respectively
>sony and xbox are on their deathbeds

>>387569673
It doesn't stop the fact that Sony has been bleeding money for years, and their movie division is in the shitter.

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>>387565971
>When are the "Big Three" going to stop competitng against each other and actually instead work with each other to help improve the quality of the market?

When you get rid of this for profit system called capitalism.

>>387569757
that isnt the ps4s fault

>>387569548
>eventually they're all just going to collapse into pc.
I'm not sure about that, if anything at this point it seems like PCs as we know them today are largely going to go away and we'll see more small form factor single board systems most of which will be sold with software that relegates them to single purpose or a very locked down user experience.

>sony and xbox are on their deathbeds. their consoles are just prebuilt pc's with a worse OS than windows.
In some ways that's true, but Microsoft controls both the Xbox and Windows, which allows them to specifically cripple the Windows user experience in some key ways which creates the market for their console.

>>387569801
Their gaming division is the only one turning up a profit.

>>387569856
exactly!

>>387566137
this.
Sony refuses to do a lot of shit because they don't want to be associated with competitors at all. If they joined in with the minecraft better together update it would at least mean there is a game me and my buds can play together.

>>387569770
Image is more accurate than you probably realize.
The best ways to preserve a game long term are:
>Port to GNU/Linux - game will be playable with standards as long as they exist
>Port to GNU/Linux + run in container - game will be playable as long as the container can be run
>Open source its engine - game will be playable on computers as long as computers themselves exist

There have been a few very successful community game projects, with how much of the work the modding communities for the elder scrolls series games do its a wonder they haven't simply abandoned the series to make their own game on an open engine.
OpenMW is even already a thing if they didn't want to start totally from scratch.

>>387569642
>call of duty
A successful series of games since the early 2000s, you seem to think that popular = bad. CoD is very playable, as its designed with only online in mind. The campaigns are half assed and in most cases outright ignored by its playerbase.
>Assasins creed
Different every installments. A similar game is no different than an ongoing series like say Metal gear, or Final fantasy. . Ubisofts "Helix credits" however are absolute cancer.
>Battelfied
See CoD
>Nba etc
Sports fans exist. Sorry you're not into them but they are.
>Tom clancy anything
Fuck you splinter cell is amazing
>Far cry
Theres like 5 games total
>Mass effect
4 games. are you even trying?
>Guitar hero
People like music. Shocker.

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>>387565971
Do you not know how a capitalist economy works?

>>387570202
sony did not want to publish demon souls in usa or in europe.
really make me think

>>387569757
>le sony is loosing money meme
Have you seen their recent reports? They're doing fine.

>>387570202
>Jim Ryan says something nice about the Switch doing well and then immediately follows it up with some backhanded compliment
I really feel like there's not a single company more egotistical than Sony at this point. How could a company that's far deep in the shitter be so aggressive towards everyone else? I feel like this extends far beyond muh superior nippon or old Japanese businessmen logic.
>That comment they made about the Emoji Movie receiving such fucking awful reviews and how they're the only company with an 8% rated movie on RottenTomatoes that made 20 million
It's like Sony runs on their bigotry and cynicism.

>>387570469
It's not like people don't understand why they are doing it, but if sony shuts themselves off from other companies they are hurting the consumer.

>>387570538
Sony does everything in their power to be against the consumer anyway. They're the ultimate in penny-pinching.

Sony is essentially a multiplatform company these days with several great titles held hostage as exclusives. P5, Yakuza and Bloodborne were my motives for buying my PS4. Not a single one of those is a sony made in house IP. I haven't given a shit about Sony proper since they killed off Sly.

>>387571213
>these days
lmfao

>>387571213
>P5, Yakuza and Bloodborne
Those were payed fully by Sony...So they're are in fact exclusive and Sony produced...Are you retarded?

>>387566137
This, just look at how Rocket League will have cross play between the Xbone and Switch, but Sony refuses to allow it for the PS4.

>>387570336
I'm not calling these games bad, they're just examples of greed, same premise and a rehashed plot. I don't care if other people like games.

cod - used to be good, innovative, 2, modern warfare, and blackops were great. now we get a new release every year, they put forth minimal effort and it's just a cash grab because they're selling the call of duty name. it's not what it used to be.

assasins creed - the story may be different but the gameplay is more or less the same, again, up until the new egypt one we got a new release every year, they put minimal effort into making these. loved the first 3 but after that it went downhill, they make them because they sold good before, but now we get the same game over and over

battlefield - I love battlefield I just hate ea

sports games - new release, literally the same full priced game every year with an updated roster

tom clancy - rainbow 6 siege's operators gimmick was a cash grab. grind for 20 hours to unlock one or pay, or just keep losing to the people who did pay. and as with ubisoft erverything, climb tower, unlock part of map, find collectables.

far cry - they used the far cry 4 map, just reskinned in primal

mass effect - 4 was a cash grabbing flop

guitar hero - was fun in 7th grade or so, my point is its a cash grab

I think it's corporate greed and people who are not gamers running things that are ruining the industry. They are in it for profit and that is all. They just rehash the same thing over and over. They lack imagination and these games are made solely from a business standpoint and not a "hey lets make an awesome fun game everyone likes because its fun" point of view.
It's like buying nike clothes, they're not necessarily better but they cost a lot just because of the brand name. If there's a new call of duty millions of people will buy it just because it's call of duty, even if its not good.

>>387571845
I don't understand why if they allow connections between pc and ps4 players

>>387571920
It's because they don't see PC as competition. The console market has largely decided that anyone who buys on PC is a lost cause in trying to force them to buy on the console. Whereas between consoles you might still be able to convince them this game box is better than that game box, so you're willing to wall off your user base to make their on the fence friends choose your box.

>>387571741
Exclusives =/= Sony IPS

SMT/Persona = Atlus
Yakuza = Sega
Souls = Fromsoft

They're as much a sony title as a "Seal of approval" third party is a nintendo one

>>387570241
Yeah it's too bad most gaymer kids only think about this issue with direct causation instead of viewing it systematically.