What does /v/ think of Dusk? https://www.youtube.com/watch?

fuckin great.

looks worse than most of the games it claims to be inspired by and the screen flipping looks disorienting as fuck. some of the maps seem like blocky babby's first map too. it beats d44m i guess.

>>387565124
is this bait?

I think it's being advertised on /v/.
Also that it's hideous and pathetic that it has to ride on the reputation of Quake and Doom in its trailer rather than being able to stand on its own.

>>387565217
its almost like its directly inspired by and is try to appeal to the audiences of said games....

>>387564913
It's alright, all the fundamental stuff is there
movement is fun
weapons are varied and useful
enemies are effective but not too much so, they don't step on each others toes so to speak and force and force the player to think tactically about positioning etc
levels are OK not amazing but OK some of the scale of rooms is a bit weird though and encounters could be a little more interesting
One of the better throwback type fps in a long time just by sticking to the basics, It certainly makes a fool out of D44M and the new wolfenstein games.
>>387565214
Nope its a legitimately shit game, AAA production value but the game ain't good

>>387565525
It's not directly inspired by. The maps ar light years behind id products and the most important feature by a mile in classic fps is maps

This is what you call "aping" or "biting"

>>387565525
Should do so by actually being as good as them - but why bother when you can throw a few references in the trailer and leave it at that.

It's fun, but pretty easy even on hard. I'm hoping in the next episodes they'll add more enemies, more complex level layouts, and nerf rockets/mortars because I took out every boss in like three seconds since I found that one bonus room with the crossbow and the sword in like level 2.

>>387564913
Waiting for the full release before buying it.

Is this up in a torrent yet?

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>>387568389
The game doesn't even come out til the 31st. The store page lets you preorder it but there's no early access version AFAIK

Also
> Inspired by Quake, Blood, Heretic, Hexen, Half-Life
Some of those like Quake, Hexen, and Half-Life seriously contradict eachother

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>>387569356
HAHA DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS

https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/18398350/DUSK_Episode_1-SKIDROW

Torrent for the first episode which you get access to if you preorder it. I'ma torrent it myself real quick too and see how it is before I consider getting it

Enjoy

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>>387564913
The face of Verne Troyer and the body of the rock tucked tidily into a 5 foot frame. I'm so confused!

>>387569356
Not seeing much of Half Life. it's most in line with Quake and Blood

I don't think it looks very good but according to LGR there's a ton of graphics settings so you might be able to tweak it. I think a lot of people forget that Quake 1+2 were technological marvels when they were released, merely making blocky 3d models and calling it retro is kind of an insult.

>>387569615
An anon posted the iso in another thread, downloaded it and opened it up and stuff, but I can't get it working, do I need steam or some shit? I'm literally retarded and need help.

>>387569615
>demo is a preorder bonus
that shit should be free if they have any confidence in the game, id fucking did it.

>>387569967
OP here. I don't know why the torrent I had was not working either (not anon's), but I'll try piratebay's as well.

>>387569967
>>387570458
Tried thepiratebays and it has the same file extension and hash. I can't get it to work for some reason.

>hurr let's just make a half assed copy of old games
What's the point? If I want to play Doom I'll play Doom

>>387570259
Times are changing

>>387570574
Did you copy the contents of the crack folder into the game directory?

>>387570742
crack folder should be on the ISO by the way. You just need to open it as a folder to find it

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>>387570742
>>387570967
I'm the other anon having troubles, I get this error:

There should be 'DUSK_Data'
folder next to the executable

I have no such folder. Pic related is all I have from opening the ISO. That SKIDROW folder just has a Dusk application icon which gives that error.

>>387564913
every time a dusk thread archives you make another "what do you think of dusk /v/?" thread every half hour to hour. STOP SHILLING YOUR FUCKING GAME.

also learn how to optimize
>2gb/4gb for a fucking 90s shooter

SHIT
H
I
T

>>387564913
>2017
>Playing a game where you kill klansmen

The art style is ugly as hell. Reminds of that other "retro" fps that got shilled on /v/ some weeks ago. Don't remember the name though

>>387571575
It's only 1.02 GB.
My Quake 2 folder is 1.20.

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>>387571234
Did you even read the instructions on the torrent page? You run the installer first and THEN you copy the crack over to the install location which should be under the games folder on the c drive by default.

>>387564913
It would be cool if it actually came out.

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>>387571850

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>>387571575
If 2-4 GB is way too much RAM for your computer to handle that's probably your fault for being dumb enough to buy an e-machine

Can someone give me a quick rundown?

>>387571935
I didn't torrent it, sorry, pls no bully

>>387570259
There are only 3 chapters, with 20 levels or so each I think.

Giving away a third of the game for free is a little much, and i'm one of those fucking guys that have NEVER bought dlc, early access or any sort of microtransaction ever.

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So far I'm up to level 4. Pretty good for the most part. I can see Quake inspiration in terms of level design although the other bits are rather questionable, at least to the point where I'm at. Most of my complaints are kind of nitpicking with certain parts of maps. For example on this one you start outside this church which is locked and requires a yellow key. The key is actually right in the back of the shot. Kind of feels like busy work. The rest of that level was pretty good though and that's where the Quake design really shines in that it's nonlinear but at the same time the way the level is kind of designed in a way that guides you through looping ways through the map

>>387569356
>seriously contradict eachother
not really

>>387573880
There was a missed opportunity for like zombies or whatever coming out of the graves when you pick up the first key on that map

>>387573880
there is some quake like design where it's a single level so you can go anywhere you can see basically but there is also some wandering around more open-ish maps like redneck rampage which is also neat.

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>>387572140
Still got 16 levels to go if what
>>387573069
said is correct. Another bit of nitpicking: sometimes the way to go could be a bit clearer
After the gator miniboss on the third level I kind of got lost a bit. Turned out there was a tiny little hole in the shadows you had to crouch through to get to the exit.

Kind of tempted to restart on a higher level though. Don't know why I went with the easy difficulty. Plus I've missed a bunch of secrets

Music's pretty great too.

>>387564913
I think the constant shilling you're putting on this board is going to make people hate it Dave. So fuck off.

>>387570742
I got it to work. Thank you.

I was pretty interested
But I'm short of cash at the moment
I've got 10 burgerbux to my name and they're going straight into Cuphead upon release
Next comes DUSK
Then maybe DRv3 or Chaos;Head, but I need to get a job

>>387571575
Not a shill. Heard about the game and was genuinely interested. Sorry for breaking your complex.

>>387574784
20* burgerbux
>>387574661
Fuck off. Even IF it's shilling, which it's not, there have been worse things shilled on this board.

games actually a decent challenge cero meido with scythe start

>>387573880
How the fuck do I finish the level after killing the giant crocodile thing? The door says it's opened elsewhere.

>>387574863
No, you fuck off Dave. Shilling isn't acceptable period. /v/ isn't a tool for you to sell games so you can buy more blow.

>>387575021
Nevermind, I'm fucking retarded. There's a switch on the middle post.

>>387575021
theres a small switch on the middle pillar
i missed it for like 5 minutes too, they need to make those switches a bit more visible

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looks cool but after the STRAFE fiasco
i will wait a little more

Why can't I get past the fucking difficulty selection? I'm clicking and getting nothing.

Fun as hell but easy.

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>killed both bosses by spamming crossbow into the giant doors before opening them

I mean, the boss is easy either way, but it really shouldn't actually spawn until the doors open. I guess the crossbow will be neat for speedrunning. Otherwise it's just used to spam through doors for easy kills. It doesn't have utility beyond that. It's not even that powerful.

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>>387574863
> Shilling
If I was shilling would I be playing the pirated copy and playing the pirated copy?

>>387575153
Yeah I'm gonna wait till the steam reviews come in and see how the 2nd and 3rd episode turn out.
Also my problem with Strafe as an old school shooter is that the game pretty much penalizes you for going fast and taking risks. Health is extremely scarce and only comes from food dispensers which heal a very tiny portion of health and shields are expensive as fuck to print off. This game seems to do it a little better in that there's a bit better because there's plenty of health so it encourages a fast and semi reckless play style.

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>he doesnt play scythe start

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>>387575923
>If I was shilling would I be playing
*posting the pirated copy and walking people through how to get it running I mean

>>387575853
Yeah, my first thought when picking up the crossbow and it said it could shoot through walls was "uh... that doesn't really sound like a good idea in terms of design".
So far my favorite weapon is the SSG because
A. It's a fucking SSG
and
B. It's powerful and satisfying as fuck.

>>387576175
>not the sword

>>387576260
Haven't gotten that yet. Also what the fuck are rivets for? They for a weapon I missed?

>>387576143
I was wondering what intruder mode was. Which is perfect because the way weapons are placed I was thinking something like pistol starts in Doom would be pretty interesting

>>387576409
secret super weapon

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>It looks like shit on purpose so its okay!
I hate this meme

>>387576409
The rocket launcher. There's one in the level with the barn. In the corn field there's an inaccessible pit full of gold coins that you can see from the watch tower on the other side. To get to it just grab a barrel and climb on top of the corn.

>>387564913
This reminds me of the new Shadow Warrior.

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>you can reflect projectiles with melee
>flipping weapons inflicts damage
>mfw the sword

Whats with the talk about it being too easy? When I first started I was in a room with chainsaw maniacs with only a scythe. Luckily there's two secrets I found: a pistol and a super shotgun on the first level.

>>387576175
>I can't be le shilling becuz I posted le demo xdd
Newsflash idiot, we all know the stats about piracy vs purchases, and that any interest leads to money made.

>>387576175
>So far my favorite weapon is the SSG because
>A. It's a fucking SSG
>and
>B. It's powerful and satisfying as fuck.
another game literally made for doombabbies

God I fucking hate the trend of "retro" artstyles. Fuck off with your block pixel shit already no talent faggots.

I have literally no idea where to go after defeating the crocodile.

The door after it says opened from elsewhere and I can't find anywhere else to go.

>>387577254
There's a switch in the middle of the room

>>387577087
It's been years Dolan. Let it go you autismal fuck.

This game is fucking incredible.

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Anyone know where the secret door this allegedly opens is? I check the barn, the garage, and the house and couldn't find anything

>>387577804
Go down the secret hatch in the cornfield.

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>>387576940
Protip: You can pick up and throw the gas tanks and if it hits them it'll explode. You can kill all three of them at once just by tossing it when they're close to each other.

Thought I'd give it a go for about 10 minutes and couldn't fucking put it down. Finished Episode 1 in one sitting.

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Maybe I'm just OCD or some shit but
> Pick up health kit
> 15 hp
> Pick up small health kit
> 7 hp
> 7
> hp

What?

>>387578487
It's half of 15

Easily my GOTY

>>387565880
Dusk certainly isn't an AAA production, what?
You can't possibly have talked about D44M either, because that is the singlehandedly best FPS we've had since Serious Sam's HD releases.

>>387578487
Well let's compare the two models of the health kits and take some measurements, can't let them get away with that unless they at least got the portions right.

Its not out?

>>387579809
Episode 1 of 3 is.

3, and as considered the "full game", is out by Halloween. September was a typo.

>>387564913
Movement is both very fun and very easy. Bunny hop diagonally to build of a ton of speed and not even walls will stop you from losing it.
Biggest complaint is that using the crouch dash is only useful for sudden dodges as you cannot continue the momentum that you gain from it.

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>>387579902
Yeah same thing here about sliding. Haven't really found it too useful for dodging either to be honest. It just seems a lot easier to strafe.

Also I chuckled

>>387581003
the slide is good with the ssg for getting real close

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>>387576673

Yeah and I blew myself the fuck up with it the first time I tried it. I figured "oh hey this must be like the nailgun!"
Nope

>>387573880
you can blow open the windows of the church and hop in bypassing the yellow key all together. either rocket jumping or using a rock.

>>387582265
There's a metal box right by the entrance you can use to climb on. Plus a large box in the back.

>>387575923
dude in this game you can surf anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y24ItIE4uOc

>>387582346
>that effect on the jump pad
Guess I'm skipping this one

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>>387565124

You can disable the midair/underwater flipping. I have no idea what it is supposed to add to the game, it will make things harder in all combat situations

I'm digging it, but the level design/texture variety is trash. Meme all you want, you'd never find such ugly, samey empty space like pic related in Quake. Most maps were beautiful

gay old shit. fuck doom. fuck all those boring games.

>>387582428
I manually did that for comedic effect. Anytime you jump, be it jump pads or just jumping on the ground the x axis is unlocked, and you can do flips forwards or backwards or turn upsidown for fun.

I just spasmed my mouse as a joke.

>>387565880
>It's alright, all the fundamental stuff is there
>movement is fun

Movement is way too simple. I'm not a fan of "advanced movement" that's incredibly mechanically easy. It's the same as Painkiller's "keep jumping and you go faster :^)", just terrible

Just strafing while jumping repeatedly will quickly net you top speed, and the crouch slide thing is basically a babbified version of the Q4/CPMA crouch slide, only it's an instant boost and requires no prior accumulated momentum to do

>>387582695
nice autism

>>387582746
fucking casual

>>387581003
No hose for me!

>>387573952
Hexen is incredibly idiosyncratic. There's nothing quite like it except maybe Hexen II

If it only said "Heretic" I'd agree, as that is just "Fantasy Doom"

Anything in the pipeline about custom levels? That's what Im really looking for.

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>>387577196
Especially as actual FPS from the 90s has mostly very good art and not just a bunch of noisy grainy bullshit "pixelated" textures

>>387583218
level editor comes after launch. coop as well.

>>387583221
To be fair, the average low quality Quake clone did look like that.

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Ew what the fuck

Was it really necesary to make it look like shit?
Even if you say "it's ironic shit" it's still shitty looking.

For real what the fuck man. If you're already making a good game why don't you fucking do more polygons to the every fucking thing? it's the same effort nowadays, you already did the hard part, making the fuckin game.

And even back then they looked better than this. Jesus fucking christ, Quake 2 and 3 looked better and this is not a hyperbole.

>>387573880
>For example on this one you start outside this church which is locked and requires a yellow key. The key is actually right in the back of the shot. Kind of feels like busy work.
This is why you don't cater to nostalgiafreinds in every regard

I sure hope there's a million fucking concurrent enemies to warrant the artstyle

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>>387583382
Even Quake 1 looked better.

But I disagree with you, I think low-poly is a valid aesthetic. It's just that this game is not a good example of good-looking low poly

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>>387583382

Let me guess, you think this freeware game from 2009 using the Doom Engine looks like shit and probably took no effort to make right?

>>387583529

On Episode 1 at least, there isn't. You'll get the occasional 10 guys in a shootout, but to be fair, Quake also never had Doom-like enemy numbers

This is very much in that vein, fewer enemies than something like, say, Serious Sam, but they're on average more resilient and placed strategically

The game is rather nice, although it feels more like a mediocre doom wad rather than a standalone game you're paying for.

Weapons are somewhat generic: akimbo shotguns, chuper chopgun, sword and maybe the granade launcher are interesting, but gunplay feels good.

And throwing objects is OP. It instagibs almost everyone.

>>387583641
Not him, but I do think that's a bad example of good appearance on a FPS with sprites

I'd pick Hexen to impress, that shit is gorgeous

>>387583758
>And throwing objects is OP. It instagibs almost everyone.

We HL2 now

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>>387583805

I picked Harmony because even though it might look like shit to some people a lot of effort actually went into making those sprites. The dev (The same guy who made the TVR! wad) used the same method a lot of developers used for making sprites back in the 90s, i.e. he made clay sculptures, painted them, and took pictures of them from different angles and in different poses before cleaning them up with photoshop and converting the pictures to work with the color palette.

Point is just because something doesn't match your aesthetic tastes doesn't mean no work went into it

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>>387583357
Then DUSK should have advertised itself as a low-quality Quake clone.

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>when you think it's a secret but it's just a misaligned texture

For shame

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>>387584848

>>387584745
It did by namedropping it and every other shooter of that age.

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>>387585069
The maps in general have several little errors

Pic related, floating tree, bullet holes where it should be rooted

>>387571575
Dusk's memory footprint is actually less than 500mb, the min memory requirement is meant more for Windows 7 so the game doesn't get pushed into the page file by basic operating system processes

>>387564913
>the crossbow doesn't stick people to walls

No thanks

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Just finished the demo on normal difficulty. There's 10 levels total unless there was a secret level I missed. Pretty enjoyable. The boss could have been a bit more interesting though. Also of all the "puzzles" you could use from Build games why would you use the fucking guessing game switch puzzles? The soldiers could be a bit tougher too. For an enemy that doesn't appear until the last two levels they're a straight up joke and go down in even less shots than the cultists. Gonna wait and see how the second and third episode turn out before I actually buy it though.

>>387586596
Oh and I'm not sure because I didn't try it myself but as
>>387575853
mentioned you can break the episode 1 boss with the crossbow. The wall penetration idea probably isn't that great of an idea.

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>>387586596
>switch texture is more detailed than the floor which is more detailed than the wall which is more detailed than the computers

>>387564913
>>387573880
>>387574419
>>387577804
>>387581003
Does this piece of shit even feature any architecture at all? All i see is square rooms that look like a babies "first made map" Quake had great architecture.

>>387587350
You're still here?

>>387587457
I'm not the oher guy who was talking about textures, many people think textures is what defines an old game, but architecture it's what made old games look fantastic back then. Low textures don't matter that much if you can make good architecture, but that takes actual skill and not some nobodies pretending to be devs.

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Dusk looks like a really fun game for 1999. Let's be honest here: without the nostalgia factor this is just some old farts indie-retro homage that isn't up to modern industry standards. If you want to jerk yourself off to bad graphics, rat-in-a-cheese-maze level design, and hackey fps tropes go right for it.

>>387588063
Nigger are you serious, the modern industry standards are a fucking joke and the main reason people look forward to anything that resembles Doom, Quake or Duke

>>387586596
>sharp floor texture
>super low res door texture
>sharp button texture
>super low res wall texture

Are these devs even trying

>>387588187
Which is unfortunate considering what a meh-fest the newest doom was

>>387588289
No.

>>387588289
There's no door in that screenshot

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>>387588063
>isn't up to modern industry standards.
That's being too generous, indie garbo like this isn't even up to 1998 standards.

>>387588359
They don't have to, they appealing to nostalgia by trying to replicate retro shooter on a very amateur level. It's not about making a good game.

>>387586596
I thought the switch "puzzle" was a funny reference when it was right after the "Duke Brothers" boss. It was clever then, but seeing how it was done again right before the boss was the dumbest shit.

Also, the soldiers are late in the game because you're getting closer to the city. It has less to do with gameplay and more with story at that point. Sort of how every Quake episode starts with possessed grunts and they disappear once you go through the slipgate.

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>>387587558
Eh, some areas look pretty good while others feel kind of empty til enemies start spawning. First thing that comes to mind is Sandy Peterson's levels. Ugly as fuck for the most part but they're still pretty fun to play and they have some pretty creative traps and ambushes. The level design seems more reminisce of Build games like Redneck Rampage in terms of architecture as opposed to Quake's abstract and sometimes nonsensical level design.

The flow of the levels is what reminds me of Quake. They're pretty open and there's plenty of places to explore but at the same time the way they're designed kind of guides you through along through the level often looping around the level. Not sure if that makes too much sense to you or not.

>>387588874
Looking back and thinking about it the one I posted kind of made me chuckle
> Get switch puzzle done
> Beat boss after dying the first time with about 50 health left
> Go through the door the boss came out of
> 6 switches on the wall
> Oh God this shit again...
> Flip switch
> Door right next to me opens revealing the second stage of the boss fight

Nice little twist, although it'd be more interesting if the second boss phase was different from the first boss phase.

>>387589286
This didn't happen to me because I emptied my crossbow into the giant doors before hitting the first switch. All that came out was a single giant horse with literally 1HP. I never saw the second one.

>>387589072
>The level design seems more reminisce of Build games like Redneck Rampage in terms of architecture
Which means it really doesn't feature any architecture at all, but basic shapes.

>Not sure if that makes too much sense to you or not.
It does, still i fail to see the appeal in something that doesn't put enough detail into crafting a map, i don't care about ugly textures, or old engines but amateur level design is just not something i would put money into.

Holy shit. I just finished Episode 1. Why the fuck did they let me play this so early? All I want is more Dusk. Survival just isn't the same. Every map was excellent and totally unique from the last. Love it.

>>387589403
Suit yourself. If it's not for you it's not for you. I personally enjoyed it but like I said, I'm still on the fence about getting it and I'm not planning on preordering it. I'm just gonna wait for it to come out and see what people have to say about the second and third episodes before I think about buying it.

>>387564913
it's fine but can you stop with these daily ads

>>387589958
> Daily ads
This is literally the first time I've ever heard of this game. Sure you're not thinking of Grimoire?

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Reasons to play Dusk instead of Doom and Quake maps:

>>387564913
cringe

>>387590657
None. Play both. What kind of retard crisis are you having where you can only play one game or the other?

>>387590657
1. I am an ugly baby who tried Quake and couldn't kill everything with the super shotgun so I deleted it immediately
B. Brush based mapping scares me, and I refuse to learn new things
III. I am a chew toy

>>387590818
What kind of retard crisis are you having where you waste your time on shitty games?

>>387590657
Dusk has really nice air control that makes quake feel like shit to play.

It's got nothing on Doom though.

>>387591275
>any FPS
>having better air control than Quake
I'm sorry, what.

>>387591275
>Doom has the same movement as quake minus any form of air control because there's barely a fucking z axis
>Doom is fine but quake isn't
Are you retarded?

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>>387590657
I love Arcane dimensions, but what others map packs or whatever for Quake should I play?