Should I get a GTX 1060 now, or should I wait? If yes, which

get a used 980 ti for less than $300.

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>>387554137
I have that card.

Oh wait, no I don't.

Get a fucking GTX 960. It runs pretty much everything halfway decently and graphics are stagnating hard nowadays.
Even better, get a Radeon and don't support the Intel-nvidia jewopoly.

>>387554137
>>387554268

Aren't these models the lower tier Asus cards?

>>387554137
1070 or bust


dont bother gettting into pc gaming if you dont have 8gb vram

>>387554137
anything less than a 1080 is not worth getting

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Get one of these, if its not the case that cryptominers bought them all and they cost like 600$ by now.

>>387554760
Very few games even go over 4GB of VRAM, 6GB of VRAM should be fine for the next year or two.

Just wait for Vega, anon! :)

>>387554898
Not even out yet and they will without a doubt disappear within seconds of launch thanks to scalpers. Vega has laughable mining hashrates but that hasn't helped the 64's availability.

>>387554660
What's a better 1070 from Asus and how is it better?

>>387554898
>generally

yeah trust reviews that use weasel words instead of discretely analyzing performance to a T

hardocp.com, faggot bitch

buy amd now = come to /v/ months later asking if (game) isnt working for anyone else

>>387554904
>next year or two

That's a shitty investment then.

>>387554492
>blaming Jews for your small penis

>>387555049

STRIX

It isn't made with cheap plastic, and doesn't hit stupid temps when overlooking. Also isn't as noisy.

>>387554898
>considering they cost the same

the vega 56 is $499 and the gtx 1070 is $349. in the UK i've found 1080's for cheaper than vega 56's

>>387555020
When will cryptocurrencies and their mining be declared illegal by US?

>>387555072
If you're buying an Nvidia card you're normally a person that buys a new graphics card every two years or so. AMD cards are the ones that age better.

Get a rx480 if you have and AMD cpu. It's a little bit worse than the 1060, but the quality/price ratio is greater.

>>387555181
>the gtx 1070 is $349
*$429

>>387554258
where the fuck are they going for less than $300

>>387555381
due to mining inflation. don't think the vega 56 will hold its $499 msrp either. even the vega 64 is selling at nearly 800 bucks now

>>387555335

Cool made up nonsense.

>>387555351
Aren't 480s extincted because of miners, he will probably be luckier getting a 1060

>>387555480
Mining "inflation" has been going on for three months now. It's permanent. Say goodbye to gpus under $300 forever.

>>387555510
(You)

>>387555335
except this has been disproven many times. what's really happening is amd cards are severely under performing at release and it takes like 6 months to 2 years to extract the best performance from them. which makes it look like it's aging well when in reality it's just allowing the card to reach its full potential after every new driver.

nvidia gpu are super well optimized at released and you only gain like 1-5 fps over the course of the lifetime of the gpu.

>>387555752

Yeah, thought as much. You pulled that nonsense straight out of your ass.

>>387554137
You should wait. Just wait forever.

What's the fastest 1080p card, boys? Got a 7970 that barely cuts it

>>387556219
1070 for the latest demanding games, 1060 if you drop some settings.

>>387556219
1070s are the way to go. 1080 cards are just too overpriced. Hopefully Vega changes that.

>>387556446
>>387556791
1070 is a 1440P card. you are wasting power by useing one at 1080p. RX580 or GTX 1060 is what you want the small performance boost isn't worth the extra $100-$200 you spend.

>>387556219
1060 prices are more reasonable now so I'd go with that or the 1050Ti if you want something cheaper. All of AMD's good GPU's are inflated to hell and back, they just have the RX 460/560 which is more for lower end games.

1070's are like $500 online, they're almost the same fucking price as 1080's. If Vega 56 stays at $400 it will be a decent buy but if miners eat up stock then it's all over.

>>387557631
>1070 is a 1440P card

No, that's a 1080 honestly.

1070 is ideal for modern 1080p at 120fps.

>>387558212
it's not going to be at $400. $400 was an "introductory price" set by amd and they're going to increase the price to $499 straight after which means they'll be even more than $499 when miners snap them all up

>>387558212
Vega 56 is $499, AMD was lying about the price. It was "launch exclusive" price. The 64 is $599 too.

>>387558392
the 64 is $699. the same msrp as a 1080 ti

>>387558258

But what about 1080p60?

>>387557631

Oh boy next you'll say the 1080 is a 4K card.

>>387558525

>60fps in 2017

Might as well just buy a PS4 Pro then.

>>387558258
my friend has a 1070 with a 1440p 144hz pg278q and he gets over 60 fps at 1440p consistently. his cpu is 6700k

>>387558469
That's the water cooled one.

>>387558643
>he gets over 60 fps

Does he get a consistent 120fps? If not then it's not proper performance. Don't tell me he leaves his monitor at 144Hz for vidya..

>>387558469
What? Micro Center was selling them for $599. I thought they were supposed to be $499 so I was like "fuck that." This has to be the most retarded hardware launch I've ever seen.

>>387558713
which is still slower than a 1080. can't imagine how slow the vega 64 air one is

>>387558731
mongoloid

>>387557631

1070 is for 1080p@120Hz or 1440p@60Hz

1080 is for 1080p@240Hz or 1440p@120Hz or 4K@60Hz

It sucks if the 56 price gets jacked up, that means the only GPU's worth buying are a
>GTX 1080
>used GTX 980Ti/Titan X Maxwell
>used Fury X (lol good luck, it's probably been used 24/7 for mining)
>1080Ti if you have 700 shekels

Kinda sucks for people who just bought a 1440p/144Hz monitor.

>>387558940

Do you have an actual answer?

>>387558940

What the fuck was that for? He's right. If your framers tells doesn't match the refresh rate then you're doing it wrong. Also 144Hz is for videos, not vidya. Vidya is 120Hz.

>>387558940

Not an argument. Your faggot friend getting over 60fps means nothing if it's not synced.

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>>387559250
>>387559363
Shut the fuck up idiots.

>>387559518

Not an argument.

>>387559250
fucking retard. this isn't me >>387558940. the pg278q is a gsync monitor so it doesn't even matter as long as your fps is between 35 and 144 fps. there isn't, and never was a requirement to have a consistent 120 fps with a high refresh rate monitor

>>387559518

Are you mad because you now realise you have no idea what you're doing? Anyone who plays vidya at 144Hz is a fucking idiot.

>>387559570
>gsync monitor so it doesn't even matter as long as your fps

>there are people this stupid on /v/

>>387559570

You need at least 80-100 though.

>>387558643

>paying the much for a gaymur monitor and not even getting a 1080

>>387559625
>>387559250
What the fuck are you on about, you can play vidya at any refresh rate you want as long as your monitor supports it and the game isn't capped. You can play at framerates higher if you want as well, you just can't see it. People usually play Quake Live capped at 250fps for example.

>>387554137
We're the mustard waiting race. Wait for the GTX 1160 and when it comes out, wait for the GTX 1260.

>>387559996
>playing vidya at a refresh rate made for video/media


wew lad

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>>387559625
pretty butter smooth desu

>>387559996

I can tell you recently went from console to PC.

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>>387558990
>mfw I just run games with 1060 using max settings @ steady 60fps because my cheap monitor only goes up to 60Hz
>and I am totally okay with that

Bought one this week. My case is pretty small so i had to go with a mini version. It's working nicely, my monitor is only 60hz anyway so i don't need more than 60 fps.

>>387560196
>that gpu temp
>not at 120Hz

see >>387560237

>>387560102
Again, you can play vidya at whatever refresh rate you want. You realize we have 165Hz and 240Hz monitors now, right? Also there's engineering samples of a 2160p/120Hz monitor with an optional 540p/480Hz mode.

>>387560347
Your point?

>>387560237
Yeah, I'm such a consolefag one of my favorite games is Quake Live. When was that game ported to Xbone or PS4 again?

I'm retarded, can someone explain to me why mining has increased the price of gpus? Don't manufacturers and resellers ultimately control the price?

>>387560362

Yes, 165Hz were made for media, and the 240Hz for vidya. I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand. Multiples of 60Hz.

>>387560347
wow the poorfag is mad. cry more bitch

reddit is that way r/pcmr

>>387555643
Someone should physically attack these crypto currency servers. Like with explosives.

>>387554137
ALWAYS wait. I'm running a 560 and I'm pretty sure Nvidia will stop making cards after they release the new generation.

>>387560468

Nothing to do with poor

see >>387560467

Holy fuck, all the underage in here who have no idea how refresh rates work.

>>387560467
>being an NTSCuck
Only consoles were ever locked to 50/60Hz, PC CRT monitors were usually overclocked to 75-85Hz because staring at a flickering monitor at 60Hz will burn your eyes out.

>>387560467
are you a fucking retard? Are you implying that a monitor rated for 144hz refresh is unable to output a refresh rate of anything between 61-143hz or some shit? What convoluted made-up bullshit are you spouting?

>>387560681

That's not the point you dense retard.

>>387558563
everybody knows it's a 3.6 card lmao

>>387560663

lol

>>387560681
just ignore him, he went to /g/ for a week and is just regurgitating some bullshit he heard some other retard spew

>>387560743
what is the point then you flaming nigger

>Yes, 165Hz were made for media, and the 240Hz for vidya. I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand. Multiples of 60Hz.

How does this affect anything

>>387560814

It affects stuttering. It doesn't matter if you have Gsync or not. Video games are best run at either 60 120 or 240Hz.

>>387560807
>ignore the guy who actually knows how refresh rates work

>>387555181
Uhh ok. Vega 56 aint even released, and its gonna be £350-400 which is cheaper than most 1070s here

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>>387560949
But I don't get stuttering, hence why I don't get your point either.

>>387561052
You're delusional if you think you'll get to them before the scalpers.

>>387561194

You say you don't.

>>387560196
BF4 isnt really hard to get high frames, I average like 100 maxed with 2x msaa on a 2500k and 980

>>387560196

Good job destroying your GPU at a steady rate.

>>387561246
Because I don't lol

>>387560807
I've never even heard what this guy is saying on /g/. I have no idea where he could possibly be getting this info from, never heard anyone say vidya is meant to be played at multiples of 60 in my entire life.

>>387561241
There is no scalpers though, just low stock like any gpu release

>>387561319
Cool I'll just buy a new one when this one dies because I actually have money kek

The real point is there's no difference between 120 and 144 for vidya. You're better off just leaving your monitor at 120Hz so your not fucking up your GPU with unnecessarily high temps.

>>387561434

>haha I am a retard lmao


Good for you.

>>387561387
low supply + high demand = scalpers
You will not get a vega 56.

>>387561336

Then you really are stupid. Ignorance is bliss.

>>387561052
not it's not. the msrp in the uk of the vega 56 is £450

>>387561526
Yeah and you're poor as shit. I'm enjoying my vidya while you whine on /g/ like the cuck you are.

>>387561598
Its really not. http://hexus.net/tech/news/chassis/109171-amd-radeon-rx-vega-56-8gb-listed-uk-retailer/

Gibbo from OCUK also confirmed £350-400 for launch 56. AMD also confirmed Vega 56 is the "best card under $400".

>>387554137

Wait
Miners fucked up the GPU Market

>>387558731
>>387558258
>>387558990
>>387559250
>>387559625
>>387560102
>>387560347
>>387560467
>>387560949
>>387561001
>>387561246
>>387561568
>>387561479
8/10 b8

>>387561598
The Vega 64 launched at £450 so how does that work lol. source?

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>>387554258
>getting a used card

>>387561826

Fuck me weekend /v/ really full of 12 year olds who know absolutely nothing.

>>387561729
Except the vega 56 is $499. AMD lied.

>>387562014
see
>>387561650

It really is.

>>387554137
wait till the prices stabilize

>>387554137
Wait until something better comes out.

>>387562014
Post proof 144hz is worse then 120Hz or stop posting. You're getting boring.

>>387561479

/thread

Your GPU sitting in the 70s is not a good thing.

>>387562113
>then


The point is its pointless, and anyone with a brain sits at 120Hz.

>>387562030
That was for the 64 pricing, not the 56. No ones gonna buy a 56 over £400 when there are 1080s at £450

GUYS BUY AMD!!!

>comes back later
>THIS GAME DOESN'T FUCKING WORK!!!
>driver will fix it
>bios will fix it
>just wait will fix it

>buying AMD because it was "cheap"

>buying used card because you were poor, then doesn't work with any game because driver gimping

>>387562248
price/perf is the biggest meme in video cards

>>387562248
>tfw gtx 260, 6950, 7970, gtx 980
>literally no problems because im not a tech illiterate retard

>NTSCucks whining about muh 60fps multiples

>>387562125
>Your GPU sitting in the 70s is not a good thing.
Kek, you fucking wot m8?
Modern GPUs are absolutely fine in the 70s, the 7870 that my dad's using has been in service for 4 years and it still sits pretty in the mid-70s during gaming.

>>387561729
no that gibbo guy confirmed there will be a £100 increase in pricing to both. it will be £450. the vega 56 is already 1080 msrp in america

>>387559625
144 hz is where it's at m8, you don't know what you're missing

>>387562248
>buying used card because you were poor, then doesn't work with any game because driver gimping

You are referring to Nvidia? Since they're the only ones that do driver gimping on old cards.

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>>387562392
Whoops forgot pic.

>>387562454
Its £350 on launch for limited supply, then £400 after

No ones buying 56 for £450. Vega 64 is available £550 easy and its launch week.

Man look at all these 144hz babbies.

Real men had 120hz a decade ago.

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i don't even have a cpu which can push high fps and that's evident with the 100% cpu utilization but i can still manage over 100 fps at 1440p quite easily at near max settings in competitive games like bf1 which require high fps. in other demanding games i get between 60-80 on average i'd say. 144fps isn't as hard as people make it think with a 1070 at 1440p

290x / i73770 master race here. Runs absolutely everything.

>>387554898
Don't listen to this meme. Not only does the Vega 56 draw more power to offer the same performance, it also has shoddy performance in many titles.

Games like PUBG, Ark, Dark & Light and many other UE4 titles will run much better on Nvidia cards in DX11. Why? Because Nvidia does driver updates and has special game profiles to try to do better multithreading for games. AMD does not do this.

That's why in DX11 you see Nvidia having a significant lead in quite many games. DX12 on the other hand has frame time issues on AMD and Nvidia cards so it's not the best choice.

>>387562715

shut up herzlet, you're not a real man until you go 200hz+

>little hertz boi thinking he can play with the big dogs

1050 2gb masterrace reporting in

>>387562610
you're blatantly speculating based on your own hopes. it's not going to be anything less than £450 once amd increase the msrp after the intro period. they can't afford to with a chip that huge and with the hbm 2

>>387555335
This has been proven wrong by just the 1060's lifespan. Even with new drivers it hangs in there versus the 580, which is basically just a 480 binned for high clocks. All benchmarks were also done at stock clocks, which is somewhat dishonest against Nvidia, because all Pascal cards can go waaaay over 2Ghz, while you'll be considered VERY lucky if you can get over a 100Mhz extra on the Radeons, not even 10% increase.

>>387558258
>>387558525
My GTX 1080 is giving me 40 FPS sometimes while playing Dark and Light at 1080p.

The whole "card X is for resolution Y" is a stupid meme. Developers can always use that extra performance if they so desire.

Notice how they've been saying this same thing for years now on different generations. It has never held up.

>>387555158
Well I bought a 1070 to avoid needing to OC it.

>>387558085
Don't, the 7970 is roughly on par with the 1050ti.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfSi-Z8r12M

General rule of thumb when buying GPUs, don't buy anything with a 128bit bus, it's designed to be replaced within 2 years. Look at how fucked the 950 and 960 are now.

>>387561319
>>387560347
>less than 85 degrees is hot
Laughing at you idiots. Protip at these temps it's not the heat that kills the chip, it's the cooling down and re-heating your GPU is worn more than the ones running at chink etereum farms

>>387555049
I have one. Can get pretty loud, but if you wear headphones it's unnoticeable. Even having your volume through your speakers set to anything above 12 will drown it out as well. Runs all my games well. Getting 60+ fps on the witcher 3 with low temps.

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Why does PUBG run like garbage? I have a 1600X and GTX 1080, even on 1440p/low I only get 80-120fps. At the beginning with all the players it drops to 60fps lol.

>>387554137

Gigabyte windforce is the best bang for your buck atm. Decent cooling and comes with a backplate. Only con is that the orange stripes are breddy ugly.

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>>387565184
>120-60fps
>garbage
u best be shitposting

Is 1050 Ti good enough, I don't care for most newer games I want my pc for the older shit and maybr some wow.

>>387565184
>Why does PUBG run like garbage?
Because the game actually uses your hardware. With UE4 many games are trying to not do the old optimizations anymore, because they look ugly.

Think about the trees in PUBG and then think about the trees you see in many older FPS games. Usually trees in older games are just a cylinder with a few additional cylinders as branches and then a bunch of planes with a tree texture on it. In PUBG the geometry on trees is a lot more complex.

PUBG also has grass everywhere. Something you rarely saw in older games, because the hardware just could not run such things well.

PUBG has a ton of interactable items. Think about Skyrim: every single building you went into had a loading screen. Why? Because it needed to load all the interactable items. If you brought too many of them into one place your game ran like shit. PUBG has enough items in the military apartment building area that Skyrim would run very poorly at that point.

Basically the answer is that times change. Developers are trying to do less of the optimizations that tie their hands. There's more than 6 enemies on screen at once. Something you rarely saw in older FPS games (other than multiplayer).

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Still sitting on a 980ti Classified. I can hit 1600mhz boost clock with only +65mv. Still pushing v-sync lock on my 32" 1440p monitor so I'm happy.

>>387566891
That is like garbage, the game looks like ass. I get 80fps at 3440x1440 with a 1080 Ti. Solid 100 kthx.

>>387566986
Good enough for what? What resolution? What is the rest of your system like? Overall, the gtx 1050ti is a great card if you can get it for sub $150. ($130-ish optimally) The 1050ti needs nothing more than pcie based power (no 6or 8 pins) and can easily max 1080p if you turn down the AA a bit.

>>387565184
how much system RAM do you have? That monitor shows you using almost 11GB of system RAM.

Other than that, PUBG seems like the game is just un-optimized. It's early access, what do you expect?

>>387567160
Well here is what I am considering as my first build. New to this.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hGmLQV

>>387567515
16GB, PUBG uses a decent amount of RAM plus I had like a dozen Chrome tabs open.

>>387567007
>pubg is so good that it runs bad
what

>>387567556
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N6gjFd

Here. I trimmed where I could. Managed to replace a few things with better more price:performance in mind. You didn't need that 750w PSU. Overall it came out cheaper without performance loss.

I'd recommend a less expensive case too. You could also save money by just getting the windows CD. The CD comes with a key and Microsoft allows you to just download an .ISO directly from them. Just download it, make your own USB. Save yourself like $20

is the 1060 3gb a good choice if i dont have a 1080 monitor?

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>>387567952
I'm telling you that games made with UE4 seem to be moving away from going down the route of old optimizations where you hide things all the time. Old games used to be corridors that turned every 3 seconds. Why? Otherwise you couldn't fit the map into one playable area as there would be too much stuff and the game couldn't run. Notice how PUBG lets you run in any direction for a good 15 minutes and it has interactable items all around. This is shit you did not have in older games. But it does require more performance. A lot more even.

>>387568161
Nice man, thank you. Will I be able to run games pretty well? At least games from 3+ years ago?

>>387568995
>Will I be able to run games pretty well? At least games from 3+ years ago?
Absolutely. Your GPU is equivalent to the top of the line card from 3-4 years ago.

>>387568995
oh yea easily. The R5-1600 is a 6c/12t and will game fine on top of everything else for years. The SSD is of good quality and will last for quite a long time. If you can stretch you budget an additional $40, you can get a 1TB mechanical HDD, unless you're looking to take you drive from your current build.

Lastly, gigabyte boards are garbage and I've been burnt on them more often than not. The asrock will last you a while and AMD also said the next 2 iterations of Ryzen will be AM4 socket compliant, so you could always buy a gen 2/3 Zen in the future.

The only thing you'll find yourself wanting to upgrade after 2 or less years is the video card. Regardless of what you do, the gtx 1050ti isn't a terribly powerful card. If we were talking an AMD RX 570 4GB, it'd be different. But crypto-miners ruined everything.

so how much longer are miners going to be fucking the market? I'd like to upgrade some time next year.

>>387569450
Never. Mining will be profitable for 5+ years with all the altcoins.

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