What game/mod is best for turtling? I want to build up a civilisation

>>387541561
I really liked turtling in Warlords Battlecry 2

>>387541561
Stronghold

Total Annihilation or Supreme Commander

>>387541561
Kingdoms And Castles can be a bit too easy even on hard, and still needs a lot of work to fix issues like the RNG fire mechanic, but it's that game(along with AoT) that comes to mind when I think giant walled cities.

>>387541969
this nigga knows what he's talking about

>>387541561
Rimworld is really fun for making a raid-proof base

>get things sorted out so normal raids can't touch you
>mortar teams come
>proof yourself against them
>bug infestation in your one dug-in freezer
>deal with that and set up countermeasures
>poison ship crashes in your garden

plus the game can be modded out the ass, i'm still installing and testing new mods to see if they make the permanent shortlist

>>387542229
oh but it's expensive and i don't even own it, i'm playing another person's copy
i should consider purchasing it considering the 250 hours i've sunk thus far

>>387541980
Which SupCom? I have Forged Alliance on steam.

>>387542442
That'll do.

This game isn't out yet, but it seems to match what you want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX1rPWPN4DI

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Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance is the best for this. Lets you build giant base forcefields and ultra long range artillery to bomb the enemy with.

>>387542860
I like the look of this.

Has anyone playing Cossacks 3? What's it like?

>>387541969
People keep asking for recommendations that stronghold fits perfectly, and then after someone correctly recommends it they are ignored.

>>387541969
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>>387543652
Not OP, but this game seems like it'd be a fun buy. Would I be better off getting 1 or Crusader?

>>387543652
OP here, I'm literally buying it right now, just deciding between Stronghold and Crusader.

>>387543886
I would get 1, the campaign is fucking great. If you like it, then get Crusader.

>>387543963
Both are good, but in the end it depends on your personal preferences (lush European landscapes or harsh desert sands).
Also, setting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDjj43dC1wE

>>387541561
Warcraft 3 was made for turtling. You can beat just about every single level in the game by creating a slowly expanding wall of towers with siege unit support.

>>387543020
supreme commander is great for turtling

>>387544495
I've always wanted to play the Warcraft RTS games, but I'm going to hold off on buying them until Gamescom and maybe Blizzcon in the hopes they'll anounce HD versions.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Red Alert 2. Turn off superweapons, play as France and Grand Cannon motherfuckers from behind layers of walls, pillboxes, and entrenched G.Is.

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>>387541561
The obvious ones have already been mentioned, but I'll be a hipster and say Worms World Party or Worms Armageddon

>>387547592
the worms series was popular as shit, just not in recent years. what are you talking about

>>387547990
Hipster in the context of the thread, because turtling isn't the most accessible strategy in Worms. But it's good in a few circumstances

>>387543886
Crusader, Skirmishes are fun as shit and the campaign ain't half bad either. Definition of comfy.

>>387541871
How the hell do you even turtle in that game. You always have to be on the move with your hero and you have to keep sending out groups of fresh units just to hold of the AI from dominating the map

>>387541561
Dwarf Fortress
The combat logs are 10/10 literature.

Battle for Middle Earth 2 and play within Minis Tirith/Helms Deep At least I think it was 2,
my memory of both games is kinda muddled together.

>>387542442

FA is the best game so you're good.

>>387544807
You can win by turtleing and never actually building an offensive unit.

>>387549381

Outside of DoW Orks, Mordor in BfME 2 was the most satisfying 'horde' faction in rts.

>tfw BTFO elf shits with a sea of meatshield orcs backed up by elephants and the arab archers

>>387549936
>when the goblins start climbing the walls
That game was great, it's a shame base building/defensive structure fell out of fashion for all this current nonsense.

>>387541561
DoW1 Imperial guard vs Orks
>Played a multiplayer game where a guy lost 30k units and lost the match from basilisk fire

>>387541561
Dungeon Keeper
Dungeon Keeper 2
War For the Overworld (Basically dungeon keeper in everything except name)
Evil Genius (Dungeon keeper but, with a james bond villian).

>>387550309
Not as much of a turtler as a dungeon builder. Don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan of the games, but you still have to be aggressive in order to win, not turtle.

>>387543886
I'd do what this anon said
>>387544006
Crusader is great but play the campaign of the 1st one, it's one of the better RTS campaigns and it does a great job of teaching you everything you need to know about getting good at the game, not to mention it's got the comfier European setting

after you've gotten tired of Sh1, go to crusader for the trial campaigns and the skirmishes, it's made for vets

both games are 10/10

>>387543963
get both, see
>>387550928

>>387541561
Surprised nobody has said this already... Age of Empires II.

>>387549026
As far as I remember, you can have the AI have the whole map, if you got the right setup, you can sit with a small patch and enemy wont break through. Although fighting some races, like Dark Dwarves, can be very hard with this method.

>>387549381
>>387549936
>>387550069
It's a shame walls are so shit on normal maps, you can turtle all you want, but if the enemy has a few siege units your walls are fucking gone. Plus your archers run all over the place and never stay where you want them to.

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>>387541561
Caesar 3 is more of a city builder with some military gameplay of varying degrees depending on your map, but if you want to build up a powerful town and then have enemies crash against your walls I guess you can play a custom game and continually piss off the emperor until he sends troops to conquer you.