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The majority of fans believe this was the last hurrah for the FF series before it went to hell. Do you think is succeeded and was a proper sendoff?

I do

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>>387447748
I still liked x-2, but yeah, it has been bland since.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJE6SSX-aw

>tfw getting the urge to playthrough again
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>>387447748
It's a good game (as is XII btw) but there's still an aura of decline surrounding both. By the PS2 era the franschise had already began it's downfall, IX was it's peak.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZIVJmSDU5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9zAETwfE84
>yfw the blitzers theme is just a sped up tidus theme
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>>387447748
Incorrect FFXII was the last hurrah for the FF series before it went to hell.
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>>387448613

It was hot garbage. There's a reason FFX was at the top of Japanese charts for many years and XII wasn't.
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Legendary guardian? I was just a boy. A boy about your age, actually. I wanted to change the world, too. But I changed nothing. That is my story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13ZYRXdYq_U
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>>387448707
>implying we all live in niponland

I don't give two fucks what the japs think.
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>>387447748
I think I'm gonna play this game. I haven't played it in over 10 years...
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>>387449003

Same. I finally bought the HD collection recently for $20, brand new. I still have the strategy guide in my closet.
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>>387449003
its been 10 years....
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>>387447748
Somebody in highschool lent me FFX in 2006. I think I played until you reach an area where there's lightning everywhere. I thought the story was interesting and could have gotten the game myself, but I never got into the fight system or that water sport thing. Maybe I should get it and play it once and for all before my good old ps2 stops working.
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>>387449102
I bought the Zanerkend Abes necklace last year at a swap meet for shits and giggles.

FFX will always be my favorite single player game.

Just the thought of grinding and bring a completionist makes me annoyed.
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>>387449249

Do it!
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>tfw get close to the end
>hate that feeling of finishing the game
>decide to beat it anyway
>that emptiness after
FFX was so comfy to grind every morning before work with a nice cup of coffee
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tidus's buttons look like d-pads
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>>387447748
Nah, don't get me wrong it was good but so were 11 and 12
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>>387449247
Ya man. Lent it to an ex weeabo psycho yaoi loving, dike hating tranny marrying girlfriend.

Never saw it again after it.
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>Tfw going to an anime convention next month that will be having a live concert of FF music
>One of the songs is To Zanarkand
I'm hyped as fuck.
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>that part where battle music doesnt play
>just keeping playing that music
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>>387449447

11 was an mmorpg and 12 was boring. it didn't even have uematsu.
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>>387449443

Holy shit
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IX was the last hurrah. X, while still an enjoyable game, threw away a lot of classic FF elements and has more in common with what came after it than what came before.
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>>387449550
So?
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>>387447748
>The majority of fans believe this was the last hurrah for the FF series before it went to hell.
Most of these have not played an FF game before.
10 was already far on the downward slope that led to 13.
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>>387447748
X was what killed final fantasy, IX was the proper sendoff.
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>>387449686
>threw away a lot of classic FF elements

name some. it had turn based combat.
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>>387449335
All right. To be honest, I also want to finish a FF game too. I tried to get into the series by emulating NES FF1 but got stuck after I got into the ship and gave up because it wasn't that entertaining.
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>>387449726

13 had no support from sakaguchi, and uematsu was gone by that point.
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>be NA
>get HD remaster
>mfw first time finding a dark aeon and getting raped

what are the point of them? like the fucking magus sisters are retarded
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>>387449825
Well that's your problem. I NES is garbage, if you're worried about playing others and missing story or whatever, none of the games are connected (except X and VII, X being a prequel set millions of years before VII), I'd personally recommend FFIV, VII, or XV as a beginner's game.
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>>387449383
But anon, near the very end is when the game opens up and all of the optional stuff becomes available.
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>>387449686
>has more in common with what came after it than what came before.

Thats because literally everyone ripped off FFX because it was so good.
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>>387449904
You're supposed grind using the monster arena tricks and have three characters with maxed sphere grids and maxed certain stats.

Also you can fight the magus sisters one-on-one.
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>>387449825

I've never finished a FF game, but I was close to finishing 10 years ago. I grinded and grinded then as time went on I moved on to other games.
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>>387450026
i mean the the very very end when the journey ends
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>>387448613
This. FF only went to shit after XIII. Lightning waifu bullshit killed the series.
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>>387450181
Yep, that's when all of the optional stuff is unlocked. Right before you enter Sin.
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>>387450367

I thought it was after you enter sin but before you fight you know who.
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>Play FFI to FFV
>All shit, the only thing of worth I'm getting out of it is that one of the final bosses was a huge ass Tree and that made me chuckle
>Apparently after FFX the series is even crappier
How? I don't think you can get more boring and bland than those games.
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>>387450332
Goddamn that Toriyama. Goddamn him to hell.
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I started with FFX. I'll probably go back to pre-X ones but right now the plan is to blow through X, XII, XIII and XV.

I think I missed the train a little but the story still holds up.
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>grinding at the highroad
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>>387450537
X is better than all those games, inb4 FFV hipsters. You stopped before one of the best ones by the way
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>chocobo racing
>lightning dodging
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>>387447748
For me, FF10 was a pioneer of unnecessary cinematic bullshit on 6th generation consoles. I can't enjoy as much coming back to it year after my childhood.
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>>387450537
You played all the meh ones. VI to X are the golden age of FF.
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>>387450013
>except X and VII, X being a prequel set millions of years before VII
What is even the point of shit like this? These "sequels" never truly connect and there's never been a case where a sequel came out that filled the gap between the two.
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I like 4,5,6, 9 and 12, fuck all of you and your fucking golden ages shit, play what you enjoy and enjoy what you play. stop trying yo dictate your taste to everyone else "7 to 10 is golden age" fucking nostalgiafags.
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>>387447748
>proper sendoff
Too soon
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>>387451517
>likes games that were made before 2000
>"fucking nostalgiafags"
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>>387451517
I didn't like VI or VIII, but I loved FFX and FFXII. Dont get this whole Golden age meme at all.
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>>387450763
Dude you are going to the wrong direction. Everyone agrees that 6, 7, 8 and 9 were the pinnacle of the series.
12, 13 and 15 are boring as fuck.
Don't destroy your interest to the series by playing shit games.
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>>387451776
this

go back and play 7 through 9 first, then 1 through 6 if you're still interested. once you've burned yourself out, you can play all the other garbage for shits and giggles.
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>>387447748
Final Fantasy was always trash.
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>Got suckered into buying the PS3 version because I didn't expect it to come out on PS4
>Now I have to buy the PC version to enjoy my ten trillionth FFX playthrough

Did people ever figure out how to mod in the original models?
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>HD remaster
>can turn off battles and speed up the game
i can never go back after
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWE0nlhpdq8

better than one winged angel imo
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>>387447748
I thought it was a great game the first time I played it through.

Any attempt a subsequent run though just shows the flaws, primarily how linear the game is and how repetitive certain aspects are like the RPS-style combat system.

Personally I thought XII was a superior game, it tried something unique and even having played through twice already (once to 100% completion) I still find myself enjoying TZA and can see myself doing a second playthrough on that as well when I'm finished my first one.
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>>387453058
my nigga
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12 was lacking alot of the magic of the old games and the characters were really bad.

Say what you want about tidus but at least you sympathized with him and were invested in his finding the truth about zanarkand. Plus fish out of water characters are amazing for fantasy games where you the player has none of the info the devs have had in their brains for years.

Vaan was also just so gay. 12's UI is fucking ugly too

>>387453058
Apples to oranges ones nearly an electronic song and the other is a orchestal piece. Both are top 10 ff songs of all time

>>387451624
lol
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>>387453658

one is a lot more upbeat than the other, but at the same time is also pretty badass, especially when that chorus hits.
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I got the remaster since i never played this when i was younger, barely played it.

How much am i missing out on? Literally about 2 hours in and combat seems v basic
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>wait for tutorial to end
>game ends
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>>387453776

it is basic, like every game before it, but it's fun. the story alone is worth it.
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>>387453776
The combat is pretty basic.

Rock paper scissor + haste. Game randomly spikes with some bosses like the red carpet and Zanarkands bosses but its pretty simple. Story is kinda the centerpiece in most rpgs
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>>387447748
It really was, but it couldn't have been a distinct finale without FFIX epitomizing the themes of Final Fantasy before it on the PSX.
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i never dodged all the lightning bolts in a row or caught all the monsters
i think i did everything else though..
did i miss anything?
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>summon ifrit
>that roar and the screen shakes

chills
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>>387447748

If the majority think this they are wrong. XII may not be as good as X, but it's definitely not a major drop off from eight and nine.
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the game is nearly perfect and after that the rest have been much worse
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It was me. FF12 was bland garbage in comparison. There's just too much that is fundamentally wrong with it for it to be enjoyable on a gameplay level.
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>>387455321
>no support from sakaguchi
>no music by uematsu
>all the characters were bland with british accents
>boring story

and to top it off, the battle system was confusing and not fun.
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>>387454702

it's been a while since i've played but i think you can get an ultimate weapon by dodging all the bolts.
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>>387454702

Well, there's all the Celestial Weapons to track down. You have to find the unpowered weapon, find the sigil, and then get the crest through a minigame (bolt dodging, blitzball, butterfly catching etc). One for each character. Then there's three secret summons. I'm sure you came across Yojimbo but Anima and Magus Sisters are a bit harder to track down. Did you complete Omega Ruins?

That's the easy stuff. The rest is locked behind a ridiculous amount of grinding - completing the Arena creations, beating the Dark Aeons, and finally beating Penance. Not only will you need perfect equipment, you'll need to max the sphere grid. Not *complete* it, but literally use clear spheres to wipe out any sphere with a stat lower than +4, and then recreating them, until you have all stats (except accuracy I believe) maxed out. Have fun.
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>>387448921
I don't live in jap and i agree
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>people actually enjoy ff12
>gameplay is based around autoattacking, literally so mundane they built in the gambit system as to provide depth
>story doesnt know whether or not it wants to focus around political drama or standard ff fantasy tropes and ultimately both elements are shallow at best
>just flat out poor last minute decisions like including abs and ass
>license boards are just fundamentally broken and a terrible means of progression, as evidenced by both the original (where everyone could be a red mage and you had to limit your own progression as a means to keep anything challenging) and the remake (where the IZJS makes it so you can just pick a class early game that falls off fucking hard by the end, or just pick a completely useless one)
>music just isnt memorable what so ever
>game is set in Ivalice, the best world squeenix has ever come up with, but the entire party is humans with 1 bunny girl

The only thing this game has going for it is the fact that it is set in Ivalice, which isn't even on its own merit as Tactics introduced it. That and Balthier is a pretty cool dude.
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>>387455789
yeah im aware of the celestrial weapons thats why i was trying to dodge the lightning.

also i played before penance was a thing...

what was the result of catching all the arena monsters?
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>>387456696

You fight a bunch of mini-superbosses (largely HP sponges and gimmick fights) and then Nemesis is your final superboss. 10m HP.
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>>387456325
>He hasn't played the Zodiac Age

Opinion immediately dismissed.
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>>387450983
it's as cinematic as any other FF game before it
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>>387457157

all zodiac age does is add the ability to take a second job, which just throws you back into the first category of removing any and all challenge
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>>387451201
*excluding 8
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>>387457157

>literally balanced the game to make it easier on top of adding a second board to choose

What an improvement.
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>>387447748
I believe X was great but I believe XII was the last great singleplayer FF game.
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it's pretty alright

https://youtu.be/CVfLTGgDem0
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>>387447748
It's easy to poke fun at, but I think there was still a lot of charm and creativity behind it.

FF9's still my go-to for the series though.
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>>387456995
>penance
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>>387457279
>>387457425
Not enough to devalue the overall content included when acknowledging the rest of IZJS's changes.

Objectively the best FF since VIII. X was hot garbage and IX was mediocre at best.
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Reminder that this is the best Final Fantasy song ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxQXXn5DMjI
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>>387457968

He just said he played one of the versions without Penance.
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>>387457998
>8 is good
>9 and 10 are bad

figures a retard would defend the casualization of ZA
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>>387455574
>no music by uematsu
Who cares? Almost all the best tracks from X weren't Uematsu anyways and he did Kiss Me Goodbye for XII.
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don't mind me. just posting the only good song from x-2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9ee_Ez6tFk
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>>387458469
You posted the wrong song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGIN2jkZVjE
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>>387458425

the majority does. he was part of what made final fantasy, final fantasy.
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I really like it but it certainly carried a certain difference with it that has been overwhelming the franchise with a stranglehold since
Granted I think the sprouts for it started in 7 and 8 but both of those are good for the most part even if 8 goes a bit retarded after disc1
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>>387458496

are you serious? that sounds horrible.
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>>387458556
Then why is X widely considered to have one of the best soundtracks of all time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJE6SSX-aw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGOLjgXCJaE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF-XlIS3keY
None of these sound anything like Uematsu yet are all god tier, some of the best in the whole series.
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>>387447748
It's another Final Hallway Corridor Fantasy game with zero exploration, zero adventure just go to point A then Point B until Point Z game over screen.
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>>387458694

if we're going to sit here and make assumptions, i'd say the entire ost had his influence. he may not have made every song, but he probably had a lot of say in what sounded good and what didn't, like a supervisor.
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>>387458694
>why is X widely considered to have one of the best soundtracks of all time

not him but it's not, even if I really like X's soundtrack
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I'm playing the HD edition of X for the first time playing X, is the later optional content worth the hassle? Or is it just bosses that really make no difference
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>>387458953
Yes it is.
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>>387458694
4 5 6 7 9 all have better soundtracks
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>>387459232
X probably isn't even in the top 5 of square OSTs, let alone of all time

>>387459239
only 9 Tbh, 8 has a better soundtrack too despite everything else being shit
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>>387447748
Additionally it wasn't the last hurrah quite the contrary it was the beginning of the slippery slow as it was the blueprint for future Hallway Corridor FF games.

It makes absolutely no sense to laud FFX under any circumstances.
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>>387458376
XII didn't have a cast that made me want to gouge my eyes out, a well done story, combat with actual depth, best side content out of any FF, lore, fleshed out world, etc.

None of these apply to X or IX. X arguably was the culprit that led to the atrocious corridor simulator that was XIII.
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>>387459326

Filtered
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>>387459432
This.
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XII has the best soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKS8_trcBug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqT3ImtAnGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqnAiTLTRf4
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>>387448707
Japanese have been notorious for shit taste enough times for us to see a pattern.

The last hurrahs are the spin offs: Theathrhythm and Dissidia.
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>>387459385
none of those apply to 8 either dumbfuck

actually X has one of the best lores/worldbuilding in the series with the best turn-based combat and a fuck load of side content so I'm not sure what the fuck you're talking about
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>>387459310
Man with the machine gun is the only track from 8 I can honestly say I liked
I fucking HATED balamb music though and Im neutral on the rest
but 9 does have my favorite soundtrack
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>>387459496

The first 40 seconds of Eryut Village was decent. The rest is forgettable.
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>>387459595
>implying
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>>387459496
as awful as this game was, it had the best world.
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>>387459659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMYisFOaz1s
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>>387459326
Its ironic how similar X and XIII are in quality.

>Linear (who the fuck cares if XIII did it much worse, at least the pre-PS2 FF releases masked it far better than X did)
>Shit cast
>Average combat
>Forgettable music
>Laughably bad writing for the most part
>Had succesors proven to have had far better combat

What else am i missing?
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>>387459724
thats pretty fuck sincerly comfy
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>>387459821
the fact that FFX did everything better than 13 despite having a linear design along with have a fuckload of side content

>forgettable music
>average combat
>FFX

way to invalidate your post
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>DUDE YOU CAN BUILD HOWEVER YOU WANT LMAO
>Go routes I assume are useful
>Absolute shit for damage
>Majority of battles are just using regular attacks or enhanced physical attacks
>Bosses immune to all magic
>""""""""FUN""""""""" minigames like blitzball are a broken piece of shit, dodge 200 fucking lightings all to get ultima weapons which are garbage unless you get the sigils btw ;^)
>Can cheese every boss with RNGjimbo
>Protag is a whiny fucking faggot
>Other characters just as boring except auron and tidus's dad


Nah FFX is hot garbage like everyother FF game except maybe 7.
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>>387459821

>X and XIII forgettable music

And thats how to tell someone has a shit opinion
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>>387457335
8 is fun and has some cool moments. I think people were just disappointed after 7.
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>>387459956
8 is not *fun*, the combat is a convoluted mess not unlike 2 and the story is fucking awful so it can't even be carried by that
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>>387459956
VIII is just riddled with poor design choices with the stupidest one being enemies that scale to your level which discourages leveling up altogether.
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>>387447748
FFX was shit.
It started to get bad at 8 but 10 was when the jpop teenage drama had settled in
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>>387460065
I see this a lot but nobody explains why.
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FFXIII has the best battle system of any FF.

This is my actual opinion. The game has plenty of flaws, but I eventually got attached to the characters and I loved the battles.
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>>387451776
FFXll was literally the best of the entire series and I will stick by this opinion till I die. Also Crisis Core was pretty good
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>>387460158
because it's been discussed to death for a decade, no one wants to write out another essay long post. Google it yourself if you're so interested
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>>387452854
>Did people ever figure out how to mod in the original models?

not possible

>>387453039
>cheat codes are a good thing now
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>>387451201
>V
>Meh
>best gameplay in the series
>meh
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>>387460051
8's combat is fine if you don't sit there like an autistomancer and draw 99 of every spell the first time you encounter something.
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>>387460232
That's a bit of a cop out, anon.
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>>387451776
>8
>pinnacle of the series

LOL
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>>387460298
>Spam Lionheart
>Spam Duel
>Spam Shot
There's a very good reason nothing in later games resembled anything from VIII.
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>>387459632
VIII >>>>>>>>> cow shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X

>X has one of the best lores/worldbuilding in the series

My sides

>with the best turn-based combat

My fucking sides

>and a fuck load of side content

Which are garbage for the most part. Quantity =/= Quality.
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>>387460380
As opposed to doomed Tifa strats? They all have tasty cheese available, that's part of the charm.
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>>387460438
wow fantastic arguments there, I always expect the best from FF8 fans
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>>387448487
XIII was the beginning of the end. It represented the shift from "party of rag-tag heroes saves the world" to the literal bishonen worship that is X-XV.

Final Fantasy is so deep into the bishonen worship train that XIII tried to make it straighter by featuring Cloud as a girl.
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>>387460217
The big problems with 13 are
>takes like four fucking hours to unlock leveling up
>takes like eight hours to have a party with 3 people
>combat is busted with a party of less than three
>each role could have used a little more fleshing out/customization
>story is rushed and kind of a mess
Other than that I pretty much agree. XIII-2 made a lot of improvements on the combat but being able to level infinitely kind of breaks it.
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>>387460221
>FFXll was literally the best of the entire series and I will stick by this opinion till I die
>Also Crisis Core was pretty good
How can be one person so right and so wrong in one post?
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>>387460538
VIII* was the beginning of the end
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>>387459432
>>387459479
Filter works both ways.

This is the whole point of tripcoding. So I don't have to listen to you bitch about my opinions and can comfortably post my thoughts without opposition.
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>>387460475
You can't purely spam Limit Breaks in VII due to the way they work, in VIII all you need to do is use Haste and Aura and they are unlimited in battle. The game's balance is so out of whack that you either one hit everything or do no damage.
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>>387459887
>FFX did everything better than 13

Not really

>forgettable music
Which is objectively true

>average combat
Same as above

>way to invalidate your post
>"waaah I can't handle facts"

>>387459920
>And thats how to tell someone has a shit opinion
Not an argument
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>>387459632
At least in 12 the side content was fun
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>>387447748
>Do you think is succeeded and was a proper sendoff?
Aside from some really bad voice acting and needlessly tedious sidequests, sure.

FF10 is unparalleled in replay value. There's just so much autistic shit you can do with equipment customization and the sphere grid that rivals any of the class mechanics found in previous FF games.
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>>387460696
And in FF7 you Doom Tifa and she deals 9999 with attack command. What's your point?
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>>387459708
>SB
>good
Hw story is amazing, feels like true FF game. But SB is fucking garbade FUCK LYSE FUCK ZENOS FUCK FRODOLA
The only good new SB character is Grynewaht. Both Hein and Gosetsu are just meh, very generic but at least they are not annoyingly bad.
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>>387460902
1. SB's story is great outside of Mhiggers
2. it's not even done yet
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>>387460635
>so right
>FFXII being rated in any way higher than below average turd status
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>>387460674
>comfortably post my thoughts without opposition.
why the ever living fuck are you on 4chan
this is why no one likes tripfags
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>>387447748

The series is inconsistent and on the down-slope now, but fortunately XIV has been fantastic since it's botched 1.0 disaster and has a plot/world building that is currently destroying all prior FF titles in comparison. (excluding Tactics)
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>>387460771
>It's another 'retard doesn't understand the laughing scene was awkward on purpose' episode
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Never played FF. Zero idea where I would even start. Help?
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>>387460496
Even is more of a FF game than X would ever be, at least it had an airship, likable cast, and more freedom.
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>>387461082
It's a disconnected franchise anon. Just play one.
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>>387460319

Except FF2 had redeeming qualities and is a perfectly good game. Too many people put it down simply because they couldn't be arsed to read the manual and learn how to play. (Although to be fair, I'm not actually sure if the English manuals spelled out things like evasion = chance to flee, or that equipping heavy items killed your evasion altogether. This stuff wasn't very obvious to the casual observer.)

I've finished every version of this game up to Origins. The only thing that ever put me off about it was the bugs in the original Famicom game. It's every bit as bugged out as FF1.
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>>387461000
checked
And a fairly accurate post
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>>387461153
The only good thing FF2 did was give birth to SaGa.
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>>387461153
>learn how to play
>attack your own part to increase defense
>non evolving magic made it useless as fuck

wow what a fantastic system
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>>387448487
>IX was it's peak

Except FF9 was slow, linear and mechanically regressive, and the plot was basically a fanfic. How was this the "peak" of the series?
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>>387461308
GOAT steampunk aesthetic and world building.
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>>387461030
Fuck off Erren
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>>387461509
>9
>steampunk
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Enjoyed FFX. Finally beat it recently with the HD remaster. Was a huge struggle for me.

I enjoyed X-2 afterward but it was so much easier. Used the creature capture thing, got an Ironside and it solod everything from chapter 3 to the end of the game. Never had to use the regular party members..
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>>387460696
>You can't purely spam Limit Breaks in VII due to the way they work

Mime, my friend. It sees liberal abuse in the WEAPON battles.
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>>387461290
>attack your own part to increase defense
You can beat the game without cheesing your stats. And defense is virtually useless. You should either work on evasion or max out someone's Blink spell.
>non evolving magic made it useless as fuck
What? Magic levels up just like weapon skill.
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>>387460696
Yeah in 7 you just KOTR->Mimic instead
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>>387448613
False. FFXIII was the last hurrah before the series plummeted to shit.
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>>387461082
Play 7 or 10 first. 10 HD is probably the best starting point to prevent old game shock.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/359870/FINAL_FANTASY_XX2_HD_Remaster/
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>>387447748
No. If I'm being strict then 9 was the send off. And if I'm being open minded then 15 was tolerable. There are no metrics I can use where X makes the final cut.
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>>387463335
Fallacious. FFXIV was the last hurrah before the series plummeted to shit.
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>>387463462
>likes 9
>doesn't like 10

The biggest red flag an FF fan could possibly give off.
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>>387463628
What if I like both?
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>>387460553
Also 13-2's story was a fucking mess from my perspective, and I hated the fetchy "Find my glasses!" type quests. The characters were awful, and they ruined the younger sister's design.
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XV was good, but lotsa wasted potential imo
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>>387463657
You're ok.
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>tfw x ended on a great bittersweet note
>x-2 comes in and gives it a disney ending
>2.5 happens

They sullied it so fucking bad.
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>>387463628
I really don't give a fuck. I started the series at the beginning 10 is the first real big departure from the classics. 9 is Sakaguchi's favourite and many of the creators consider it the end of the golden age. I think fellating 10 is shorthand for being an eternal newfag to the series.
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>>387463770
>This is canon
What the actual fuck were they thinking?
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>>387463818
None of that changes the fact that 9 is a slow-ass aberration of Final Fantasy. Calling it a callback to the classic 2d games is a fucking insult.
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>>387447748
Yes. Its my favourite FF game.
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>>387463904
It's pretty much just a modern 4 and in terms of setting and atmosphere it's absolutely closer to the classics. 10 is a huge departure from the classics in numerous ways.
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>>387463818
I understand not liking X but you can't say XV was tolerable when it's objectively trash.
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>>387447748
I liked FFX and have played through it around 3 or 4 times.

Overall though I don't think it represents the sense of magic and wonder that I get from many of the other FF games. For whatever reason, the juxtaposition of the calamity of Sin with the otherwise cheerful and pleasant beach atmosphere just don't jive for me, and it doesn't give the same sort of sense of severity and impending doom that was in FF6, 7, 8 or 9.

It's a good game and the story is fine, but the WORLD just isn't compelling.
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>>387464037
It's definitely tolerable. All you have to do in that webm is hold the attack button. Guess how you beat the vast majority of battles in nearly every final fantasy title? Mash or hold the attack button.
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1. I'M NOT FUCKING AROUND NIGGER

2. Convenience store

3. some nightcore shitYes, my only complaint was the archaic 'press x to pick up' for ammo and armor, but otherwise it's a model FPS for the generation.ICTV = -55%
ICTV + Sicario -40% (says 0% visually)
Getting shot every time gives you +20 % and it stacks with itself
Get enough % to dodge eventually
Dodge=regain all armor(once every 4 seconds)>waah
>waaah
>Why can't I hold right and win!??!?!?!
>Sanic CD sux
>Le bad level desingThats Dark Rift nigga
A full 3d rad fantasy fighting game

This and War Gods were awesome back in 96 when I got the n64

Get 2 more fighting games and you own the entire genre for the systemot my second Altera from this event when I only wanted ECs. Also barely got 100 dumplings atm and dont want to waste apples on this event. Doesn't seem worth it.(you) are lonely(you)
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I had a dream FFX-3 was announced, with a new cast of characters In a fully playable Zanarkand like city, one looked like tidus with black hair
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How's final fantasy 9? I want to give it a shot after i finish 5
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What I didn't like about X was the random gear bullshit, the minigames and the sphere garbage.
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>>387447748
FFXII was better
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>>387464210
Extended universes in this series are cancer, just look at VII which has been irreversibly ruined thanks to all the spin offs. Each mainline game has told a story that is self contained just fine even it requires some external reading.
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>>387463904
>slow-ass aberration of Final Fantasy
In all honesty I don't think it is possible to have actually played the old FF games and have that opinion.

FF9 is not my favorite of the series, but if I were to pick one game that I think captures what FF as a series is all about, I think FF9 nails it more than any other.
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>>387463685
13-2's story is a mess but I do like it as just a time-hopping adventure game. The characters never seem to treat anything too seriously until the very end.
Then there's 13-3 which has an even more retarded story but I like the gameplay a lot.
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>>387464471
I agree but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens one day
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>>387464697
I'm not really sure what story they could tell, telling the pilgrimage of Jecht, Auron and Braska wouldn't work since we all know how it ends and we know the corruption of the church and that Jecht is really just a summoning of the fayth. If they were to tell that story it would no doubt be loaded with retcons.

Hopefully it never happens, X-2 and X-2.5 were enough.
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>>387447748

Couldn't agree more. X got hokey at times, but that's par for course with FF games.

Since then:

>X-2: Fun and a bit charming in it's own way if you don't pay too much attention to the story.
>XI: Underwhelming competitor to WoW
>XIII: An offline MMORPG with far too much politics and characters you don't give a shit about. Bonus points for Fran though, hnnggg.
>XIII: What nobody asked for
>XIII-2: More of what nobody asked for
>XIII-3: Even more of what nobody asked for
>XIV: I've heard it's fairly decent now, wouldn't know though.
>XV: They had a decade to develop it and still forgot to add enough to the story that they didn't ask the viewer to watch their animated series, CGI movie, and buy a season pass to experience the entire 20 or so hours of gameplay/story.

8 mostly underwhelming games in a 15 year span, meanwhile, the old Square put out in the same period of time:

>FF1
>FF2
>FF3
>FF4
>FF5
>FF6
>FF7 ( somehow making the jump to 3D and cinematic with no huge hurdles)
>FF8
>FF9
>FFX (Somehow again making the jump to full 3D environments, and partial voice acting with few delays)

They were able to create so much quality content in such a relatively short amount of time it was insane. Now they can't put out anything even remotely substantial as they lack a vision or direction, are torn at the sides by the prospect of DLC and product placement, and milking a single entry in a franchise for all it's possibly worth.
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>>387451298

It's an anthology series and they wanted to add some lore. That's literally all it is.
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>>387463358
That's perfect. Thanks
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>>387464818
I don't know but in my dream it made perfect sense to me, I thought "of course they would do this" visually it looked enticing, the streets were filled with some sort of parade and the characters were like alternate versions of FFX party members. Also at the same even Phil Spencer was there and asked me what I thought of the Xbox press conference and I was honest, he got pissed
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>>387457756

XII is worth playing for Fran & her voice alone. It's the sexiest goddamn voice I've ever heard.
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>>387464658
I really want to play 13-3 but haven't gotten through 13-2 yet. And now it's been so long since I played I'd probably need to restart my game.
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>>387459632

X felt like a real world. XII was so bogged down in political bullshit that I never got a sense for what the average person in that world experienced.

X was much more down to earth in it's presentation and the lore behind it felt very organic.
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>>387465906
Gameplay-wise, 13-3 is completely different from the other two and basically all you need to know is the ending of 13-2, which is that Serah and Noel failed and Serah dies
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>>387463358

X first to get into the series without being slapped in the face with the graphics and mechanics of older games. It's mechanically similar enough to modern games that you an ease in.

>Then the PC/PS4 version VII
>Then the PC version of VIII
>Then the PC version of IX

Then emulate the rest at your leisure, you're ready.
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>>387463770
>>387463826

My all time favorite night on /v/ was when that final got translated and people were spoiling it and memeing the shit out of it.

It's so absurdly bad I have a hard time believing it's real.
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>>387465059

XI came out before WoW existed you moron. And it's still the most profitable FF game to date, so it can hardly be called "Underwhelming"
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>>387447748
Lost Odyssey was the real send off
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>>387450397
Nah you can wrap up most everything before you go inside Sin. You'll still need to go inside a few times to get all the monsters if you plan on collecting every one for the arena though.
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>>387448707
I played FFX for the first time this year and I thought it was ok at best, nothing mindblowing, most of it's worthy moments were carried by the music.
The cast was really unlikeable at times, especially Tidus, I haven't played many FF games but he's gotta be the most irritating main character in the franchise.

That said, I would have liked to see more of Braska's pilgrimage and for the game to have an option to skip cutscenes.

Also
>Playing FFXII
>main cast is all Humans and a bunny girl despite there being a nice bunch of different races in Ivalice
What the fuck was SE thinking?
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>>387447748
Nah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cZHfOs2XOc
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>>387457276
Less so. Disc 1 of FFVIII was popcorn time
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>>387466960

What the fuck...

Ok, I'm clearly wrong, but at the same time questioning my sanity. Goddamn.
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>>387447748
>The majority of fans believe this was the last hurrah for the FF series before it went to hell.
I think that's pretty dumb. 12 was good, and 13 was the same as X.
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>>387467735
>thrown thousand years into the future
>loses everything he ever knew cept blitz
>finally grows up halfway through
>realizes what he is
>becomes a fucking chad by the end after seeing everything through finishing his fucking duty killing his dad and the ultimate being

tidus is by far the best protagonist this ded shitty series has
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>>387468497
>thrown thousand years into the future
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>>387466960
>And it's still the most profitable FF game to date
I suspect one of the FF mobile games will surpass it soon enough.
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>>387468483
>13 was the same as X.
There's linear and then there's no-town hallway. Let's not get carried away.

FFXIII might as well have a Gears of War subtitle.
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>>387468497

Tidus has a full character arc going from dumb jock to owning up to the fate of the world over the course of a few months.

Not only that, but throwing tradition out the window and actually fucking up the status quo to finish the job for good. Despite it meaning he ceases to exist.

Tidus is a badass. It's the character design and voice that betray him. If he were designed and voiced by a gruff dude he'd be heralded as the manliest character in the series.
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>>387468739
And then there's X.
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>>387468816
Stuff to do in Thunder Plains
>Dodge Lightning bolts
>Catch monsters
>Qactuar Stones

Reasons to re-visit any pre-pulse FFXIII areas
>...
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>>387468816

That's the thunder planes, it's a single stretch of land where the difficulty is not traversing the layout of the region but avoiding the environmental hazards.

I'll concied that FFX maps aren't complex and fairly linear, but this is cherry picking at it's finest.
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>>387468929
>Dodge Lightning Bolts
Way to invalidate your post immediately, X's mini games are not only the worst mini games in the series they're the worst mini games in any game ever.
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>>387468973
>X's mini games are not only the worst mini games in the series

Ah so you're trolling. 7/10 I responded twice, but show some restraint next time before you tip your hand.
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>>387468973
I liked the touch of dodging the lightning in the zone
Made it feel unique and its not hard, sure doing it for 200 bolts for lulu is annoying but its for a celestial weapon
I actually liked all the other minigames even the cactuar simon says shit
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>>387447748
>>387449825
>>387449249

>4 is good but dated
>6 is best game
>7 is good and overall fun ride
>9 is the last classic feeling FF and it's a good game because of this it's more like 1/3/5 than the others listed
>X is this thread

You can safely ignore the rest without regret. Although I've enjoyed many of the unlisted for one reason or another
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>>387447748
I thought it's a complete shit, it's exactly same linear garbage like FF XIII was that was a little too busy setting up its world than telling a good story or having good gameplay, or having exploration. At least it had courtesy of building the world not via logs in menu.

In my headcanon Tales of Symphonia was real FF X, it does same plot miles better and with much more interesting perspective and it's just a character's sideplot really. It does FF X's entire plot as one of the least interesting character's subplots and is better at it.
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