>Exausted system so you cannot use the same soldiers over

>Exausted system so you cannot use the same soldiers over and over

Oh my, this fix the entirely game.

>>387361640
how

Might be bad.
But to me honest, I was mostly happy with most of what Xcom 2. Even the timed missions, which honestly lead to some of the most fun encounters I've had in the whole game.

Sadly I just can't sit down and play this thing for more than a couple of hours without getting bored and frustrated by it. I feels like it lacks atmosphere or a sense of presence. As a result, I don't get immersed, and stat to view it more like a mere mechanical exercise - at which point the small unavoiable frustrations of the core design start drawing on my tits.

I honestly can't pinpoint any single specific feature of Xcom 2 that I did not like. But I played it for like 15 hours and then just... stopped. I think something about the general pressure was annoying me.

>>387361724
Gameplay reach some point where you eventually will have 2 o 3 god-alike characters making every mission a very probable flawless win

>>387362180
A win routine basically

>>387361956
Try Ironman in Veteran mode

>>387362552
I tried that, but I don't have the fucking patience for those. I have a really annoying bad habit of getting really angry when I lose a massive portion of my progression without an option to revert back, it just makes me realize how much time I just pointlessly lost, and makes me not want to play the game ever again.

I did use the save scumming actually quite sparringly when playing on non-iron mode, and even that was quite enough for me.

I don't think I'm completely awful at this game, but I'm not amazing either, and I really don't feel like I have the confidence to play on iron man.

I can deal when a game like The Void or Pathologic screw over big time, because those games got me already personally invested.
Xcom feels incredibly impersonal to me. So playing 25+ hours of it and then learning that I better start all over again is not something I can deal with.

what are they changing in regards to soldier customization?

>>387360461
Fix is a strong word, but this will increase the replayability, for me at least. I like the bond system so far, I think I'll enjoy messing around with that.
I wish SPARKs could form bonds.

>>387360461
>More badly designed enemies
>More OP soldiers
>new maps, in a game that already has map generation
>still no MEC that can punch through walls

But XCOM 2 was already a good game

>>387363398
Beside new costumization options, now you can make posters of your crew and those posters are plastered around the ship. You get to make posters when someone die too. Also bonded characters do stuff together and have special win animations.

>>387362552
bad idea, game is loaded with bugs

>>387362552
It's a good idea, until you're stuck under the avenger and have no way of rolling back the save.

>>387362180
There was nothing wrong with that, but the way that long war handle that was way better. I loved having 4 different teams to use in different missions.

>>387364117
>>387360461
>>387364201
this is not worth 60 dollars

>>387364397
Good thing it's $40 then.

>>387364397
well good thing it isnt 60 dollars then

>>387364201
that's cool.
>>387364397
it's 40 (which is still high) but I got it from GMG for 30

Is the "nemesis system" you're talking about eh Chosen or is it actually like Shadow of Mordor where even lowly enemies can get promoted?

>>387364441
still way too much for something that's basically a mod

What a lousy crutch the exhaustion system is. Instead of having dozens of soldiers like in the old games you only have a hand full and now they need to be exhausted instead of locked to missions and travel. First they dumb the game down to a point it's boring and then they implement dirty hacks to increase complexity again.

>>387364509
The same could be said for any expansion.

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>>387364293
Game runs like shit but none of my Ironman runs have been anywhere near as buggy as EU/EW
>got to the final boss encounter on Classic/Ironman
>only 2 of my characters got through the last door because one guy got bugged and couldnt move when he was passing through

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I did good, right?

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Can i make my soldiers fall in love with each other now?

>>387364862
yes

>>387364818
I remember that but wasn't able to grab it at the time. Will they redeem it or just cancel your order on release date?

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>>387364397
>not buying it for 26 bongs on GMG

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>>387364929
Even between same sex soldiers?

>>387364974
They've already took my money and Amazon's usually good when errors like this happen, so I can only wait to see what happens.

Pretty sure they would have cancelled it by now, if they were gonna cancel it in the first place.

>>387364707
>DUDE
>TELEPORTING SECTOPODS THAT INSTANTLY GET A TURN AND NOTHING PERSONNEL MY SQUAD TO DEATH WITH NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT
>LMAO
I got put into a fucking death spiral because this fucking bullshit caused a squad wipe three fucking times. Never touched Ironman ever again after that.

>>387365125
yes, but you need to ask jake solomon's permission each time

>>387365125
Yes

I know this is stupid, but i always smile like a madman when i see "WANTED" posters of my veterans soldiers during city missions. That shit is just cool.

>>387360461
>tfw nintendos xcom ripoff has local multiplayer
>tfw actual xcom will get it never ever

>>387365343
shit's not out yet

>>387365470
http://store.steampowered.com/app/433050/XCOM_2_War_of_the_Chosen__Propaganda_Center/

>>387365470
There's a feature like that in the base game, they're just expanding on it.

>>387365462
xcom 2 multiplayer is a piece of shit too

>>387364397
40$

>>387365112
isn't 26 bongs worth like 40 bucks and three prayers to mecca?

>>387365749
its like $33

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Is commander beags gonna actually do a let's play of this? Or is he doing twitch shit forever now? xcom is too stressful to play for my tastes,
so it's nice to watch someone really good at the game play it instead. i'm not a faggot, I swear...

So a poorly made paid Long War 2?

>>387366079
souless and with shit voice acting and shit spam my screen with bs mechanics

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Are they doing anything to fix the Alien king DLC being shit, sparks being shit, performance being shit, and sword rangers being shit?

>>387366267
yeah they did, apparently you cant use old dlc if you pick the last expansion, dont ask me why

>>387366360
How are they fixing those because I really wanna like Xcom 2, but it fell flat in a lot of ways.

>>387366021
He might, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he didn't. Mostly cause he was never a big fan of the base game, and seemed to despise Long War 2.

>>387366360
that's bs

>>387360461
Never played the first one, should I give this one a try?

Will Long War be updated to work with on release? Because there's no way to enjoy XCOM2 without Long War and if it's not out for months then I don't have to get the expansion.

>>387366267
they're tweaking the old dlc a bit
sparks get higher aim and attachments on their guns
alien rulers are assigned to facilities and will not appear until you attack that facility

>>387366021
you are a faggot

>>387366486
im just glad i wont see their anarchy bs all over the place

>>387366459
Yea I kinda agree with you. I saw his vid about him getting burnt out on xcom 2, and I can't really blame him desu. He seems to be genuinely having fun with his twitch streams, and I wish him the best. Shame we won't get more xcom content on his youtube though, that shit was so much fun to binge watch.

>>387366564
>>387366267
forgot to mention that rulers will not react to everything now, mainly not reacting to reloads or actions taken outside of their line of sight

>>387366564
So sparks are still shit and the alien kings wont fuck up random missions? I guess the kings bit is okay.

Did they loosen the time limits?

>>387366635
only brainlets were troubled by time limits.

>>387366547
doubt it, it will probably take at least a couple months

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No
>Shallow cover system
>No actual ballistic
>Psi soldiers development being boring as fuck
>No MECs, instead we get lame "robots"
>Stealth poorly implemented
>Limited as fuck classes
>Inconsistent as fuck enemy design
>Retarded DLC like the Hunters one
>Terrible armor and weapon design
>No qt russian doctor

>>387366021
just watch his streams what the fuck

so in short this is just a cash grab mod called "expansion"?

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>>387361956
I'm in the same boat. I've completed two Long War playthroughs (one failed in the first year) and beaten xcom 2 twice before trying out a couple overhaul mods.

No matter what I try, I can't squeeze out nearly as much fun from xcom 2 as I could from the EW: Long War mod. It really breaks my heart, and I can't put my finger on why I don't love xcom 2 like I did Long War.

>>387366635
I think there's a setting for it now, but >>387366670 is correct

>>387366714
>Russian

>>387366714
>Vahlen
>Russian
you're retarded

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>>387366802
>would rather watch unedited streams with donation/tip spam instead of tight edited content

>>387366872
>>387366870
nice argument mom, she is still not there

>>387364397
i know i would pay 90 dollars for it

>>387367002
She's not Russian either you mongoloid.

>>387366670
I don't want to just grenade/flashbang everything like last time.

>>387366960
it's same fucking shit, you are watching someone play videogames at the end of the day.

>>387367119
Just get mods to turn it off?

>>387366267
>performance being shit
No
>sword rangers being shit
No but several enemies (including Chosen) are vulnerable to melee now and Templars can melee with their psi blade shit and then move, making them able to move, move and melee and retreat for insane mobility.

>>387366872
Doesn't matter what she was, she's a snek now.

>>387367119
They kinda nerfed that strat

>>387360461

Did they fix every mission being timed yet

If not, the game is not fixed

>>387367268
Apparently the performance is much better now

>>387367310
Now I'm listening. What'd they do to nerf it?

>>387367268
i've seen some lets play, the game loads almost instantly now and theres no stutter

>>387367346
not all missions were timed to begin with but some of the new ones they showcased don't have a hard timer
you're still a brainlet if timers are an issue, though

>>387367346
how is it a problem? just don't lean too hard on the overwatch crutch.

>>387367524
They added an option for damage fallof on grenades and using them attracts a swarm of zombies on missions with certain modifiers

>>387360461
Did they ever improve performance?

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i'd like xcom better if skill trees were tied gear and achieved with tech instead of being tied to characters that can just die

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screw beagle

If he was any sort of professional he would keep promises of paying consumers. People work at shit jobs everyday and he can't play xcom once a week?

>>387367940
Do you actually sub to him lmao

>>387364179
Lies.
A game can't be good if it's predecessor was better in every way.

>>387366714
I miss the EW system of having branching options for what you wanted to specialize your veteran soldiers in. Meanwhile xcom 2 is pretty linear with really shit class design.

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>>387367694

>XCOM1 had a nice balance between timed and reg missions
>XCOM2 is 90% timed
>Defending this

>>387367914
You just described "idle game" progression.

>>387368159
babby can't overwatch crawl anymore

>>387367914
sounds like you need to git gud faggot

>>387361724
It gets boriing sending the same squad with the same loadout every single time.
Having to work around this also forces you to adapt with what you got giving the game more depth and difficulty.

How to deal with the panic mission? The aliens kill one human every turn, so I'm supposed to kill all the aliens in 6 turns while also not getting eaten by faceless?

>>387368451
No, you're supposed to kill them all in three turns and chain shot that gooey fucker to death.

>>387368431
Doesn't this just mean get more soldiers and just focus on the ones that do the most of killing?

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>>387368104
>>387367346
>>387368159
>>387366812
Found the shitter overwatch spammers.

>>387368601
I don't think I can do that on my first panic mission though

>>387367940
XCOM2 gets really boring really fast. You wouldn't do it either.

Don't know why he stopped doing his EW Long War Impossible series though.

>>387368451
Pull aggro on all the pods. Aliens prioritise your soldiers over civvies once they've been triggered.

>>387368682

>Overwatch is basically useless now
>You're more or less forced to make dumb but necessary make or break moves or else you lose
>You are literally at the mercy of the game 100% and have no control over your victory chances

They fucked up. Yes overwatch spam was a problem, but they made it useless now. They didn't fix it, just shifted it to the opposite side

>>387368858
You obviously don't know how to play the game.

>>387368723
I thought you meant in general. First one's pretty dependent on team composition, but in short grenades and flanking are your friends, and don't go near civilians if you don't have enough actions to kill a faceless.

>>387368927

Not an argument

>>387366872
*your

>>387368808
Because he's an unprofessional, unfunny shitter with 0 drive that wants to get everything handed to him with the minimum effort.
So basically /v/

>>387369080
Not an argument.

>>387367415
>>387367532
That's not what I've seen on streams from it. Still stutters during certain actions and the caps-lock-to-load-instant trick is still required. Texture pop-in like typical from UE also still present. And the action camera is even more awful and probably severely bugged right now.
Not saying they couldn't do anything about it but I doubt they will.

>>387360461
>Tons of new maps
I'm really interested in that. I thought the map generator in Xcom 2 was really good already, but I'm pretty excited to see how it works out with new tilesets and shit. I'm almost looking forward to that more than bolting new mechanics on to the game.

>>387368858
>useless
It does what it's supposed to do, it pins the enemy so you can position your squad around with less fear that they'll reposition on you.

>>387362552
>Xcom 2 without multiple saves

Bad idea, there is a glitch where in battle, the AI stops working and the enemy's turn never ends. You need to load a save from before the battle started to fix it.

>>387370763
you just need to push the key "END"

I have had so many bugs where I get shot through solid fucking walls that apparently didn't actually exist.

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A нy, чики-бpики и в дaмки

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>mission timer times can be doubled in the advanced options now

>>387368858
Overwatch works fine, it's just no longer an "I win" button, you just can't use it all the time anymore.

>>387371675
Get out of here, Stalker.

I'm pretty excited for the new units, they look like a lot of fun to use.

>ADVENT defectors
>Cheeki Breeki
>Protoss

>>387368104
Wrong
A game can still be good even if it's inferior to previous installments

>>387364117
But there is a robot guy, he can punch and everything.

>>387366267

what anime

>>387360461
nah, they ruined it. also it's too expensive

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>>387372869
>Tacticool outfits and masks
>Dragunov rifle
>Stealth
>Explosives in necessary

They really stand out from the other two factions, who are half-alien mutant supersoldiers with fancy alien-made weapons and a psionic cult that create energy swords with their mind, these guys are basically angry Slavs with slav-rifles and claymore mines.

>>387373603
Boku no dragon maid

>>387373725
Isn't it the same price as Enemy Within?

>>387373603
how new

>>387360461
Having already spent 200 hours in Xcom 2 and completed an undying commander ironman run, I am eagerly looking forward to this expansion.

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>>387364397

Its $53 mapledollars

Even after the exchange I still get out ahead by buying through Gmg

just play xpiratez mod for openxcom, one guy made a better game than a whole studio

it's also free and has no dumbing down for the $$$masses

>>387374234
>mfw live in Asia
>They want $80 for Xcom 2 and $60 for War of the Chosen

Some companies are fucking retarded, you can't charge American prices for that, who the fuck is going to pay that? I got X-Com 2 Deluxe for $40 and War of the Chosen for $30 on GMG instead.

it wasnt broken they just improved it

>>387366021
If all you want is to watch someone play it, Marbozir is doing a full playthrough thanks to 2K giving him a key. Apparently he can't show everything off at the moment though.

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>>387372869
Those things will fit in with my STALKER squad. They also seem to be pretty fucking strong.

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>>387360461
>Exhausted system.

Tell me this is a lie.

>>387376217
Nope. You can bring out tired soldiers but they gain Darkest Dungeon style negative quirks if you do

>>387376280
yes, more RNG, just what the game needed

>>387376280
I guess that's not the worst thing that could happen; it's just annoying to have to train twice as many sets of every class you use.

>>387376429
XCOM is a lot like playing DnD with that one DM that makes you roll for literally everything

If that nemesis system is a fun as it was in shadow of mordor this will probably be an instant buy for me.

>>387366021
bahroo been streaming the expansion all week.

Did they fix the goddamn bug that makes it so that almost every time I try to unequip utility items from soldiers that aren't on screen I just exit the mission instead?

>>387376857
thats a mod bug

>>387366821
xpac looks like what youre looking for. it the game we wanted for 2.

>>387376946
Nope, I never played with mods. Complete vanilla install.

>>387365112
Cutest little balls holy shit.