Since PlayStation All-Stars 2 is getting a sequel with characters

Paris Games Week is in October and Sony is holding a conference there again.

Also the trademark was updated earlier this month.

Game Arts are working to fit in roughly about 32 characters and 24 stages into the game. The demo is almost complete, with the 9 characters for the demo still being balanced out. There's a possibility that we could also be seeing Lammy, Dante and Klonoa in this game. SEGA has still yet to respond about having one of their IP's being represented in this game, but it would likely be a Yakuza character.

he combat seems way more fluid and quick than in the first game, and you're able to pull off some pretty impressive combos.

The art style is actually pretty unified, like sm4sh in a way. Parappa this time actually looks more natural than whatever happened to him in the first game.

PS4 Pro seems to upscale the game to a proper 4K. The game already runs at 60fps on all PS4s. The game still has a super meter, but only does what would be level 3. Since this game has life bars, it will be more like special attacks in regular fighting games.

Morgana's moveset.

Morgana has his sword as a melee weapon, his slingshot as a long range, can transform into a van similar to Wario's side B motorcycle in smash, and also has his Persona attacks.

For his special attack, if you're able to catch a character in your distance as you activate it, The Phantom Thieves hold them at gunpoint. The player caught in this attack has to either give up a life and give it to Morgana, or suffer an all out attack from The Phantom Thieves.

Crash's moveset

Crash is a mixed bag. He uses classic movies from the original games, but also has combat from Crash of the Titans/Crash Mind Over Mutant. Is standard attacks consist of his Crash of the Titans combat, whilst his specials are classic Crash moves like spinning, ground pound, sliding and fruit bazooka.

When Crash gets his special attack, he gains the Aku Aku mask. Running into enemies gives them tons of damage and knock back, and Crash is invincible in this state.

Mementos is a train platofrm area set in Mementos, but has platforms and has two train tracks, with a train passing through as a hazard once in a while. (Replaced with Wipeout tracks when crossover happens)

The UI is pretty much the same as the first game, only the super bar is smaller and below the health bar which is bigger. When a character has their special, they will have a more aggressive looking portrait with flames around it. Some other Ui stuff include chat boxes from Persona 5 in the Mementos stage when stuff happens, and during Morgana's special attack.

Kratos and Nathan Drake have the same moveset as the first game, but slightly altered to work with the new physics and engine. I couldn't notice what exactly were different, since they were very subtle differences.

The music playing in Mementos was an instrumental recreation of Last Surprise, and the Wipeout music was a remix of the one of the tracks from the original. Both remixes done by Atlus


Those custom options will be in the game, as expected. The winner of the match was Crash, and he performed his victory dance whilst the others clapped in the background. The match was stock with time, and lasted around 4 minutes.

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And then Spike fucks Kat

The End!

>>387359625
What do you want to see in the sequel other than Spike fucking Kat?

>>387360025
Kat fucking Spike

>>387358817
Didn't a previous leaker claim Spyro couldn't ever happen?

>>387359175
>SEGA has still yet to respond about having one of their IP's being represented in this game, but it would likely be a Yakuza character.

Isn't Persona owned by SEGA though?

>All these threads saying the same shit.
>Everyone says fake.
>Trademark gets renewed recently

What the actual fuck is going on.

Will Dart or Abe be in it? Still salty by how close were we to getting them in the first game.

>>387360117
I doubt that guy was telling the turth.

>>387360273

Sega and Atlus are owned by the same parent company, but have no relation to eachother.

>>387360351
>
Trademark gets eupdated, the main leaker says that it will get announced in October which was weird at the time. And yesterday Sony announced they are doing a Paris Games Week conference in October.

The game has a much better art style than the first game. The visuals look a lot like Sm4sh,

Mementos stage

The stage has two train platforms with two train tracks, along with some platforms above them. Trains come by every so often and can deal a bit of damage. The stage has its own UI elements, being The Phantom Thieves talking about the battle that is underway. The dialogue will be varied depending if Morgana is in the battle, who is going up against who, the stage transitioning to WipeOut, etc.

The transition is similar to the Heavenly Sword stage from the first game, where a WipeOut track is being built and every so often the vehicles come speeding by. The WipeOut tracks take over the train tracks, and touching the tracks will cause you to be stunned.

Online play will have all the modes of the previous games, along with some sort of clan mode.

>>387360632
Shit now I really hope this is true. I don't wanna be taken for a ride.

>>387360856
That's good to know. Ok so as far as the gameplay goes. Are they trying to do the whole "we're a fighting game" thing again or more similar to Smash style?

I have no reason to play this, just like I had no reason to play the first, since I can actually play Smash Bros.

>>387361170
It has a life bar now so your moves actually do damage. Proper combos are still in there too.

Where the fuck is Abe?

>>387361376
I mean Smash would be a whole lot better if that shitty percentage system wasn't there.

>>387358817
>Now with even more literally who?s you always wanted to play as!

>>387361591
Nice. Already sounds better. Know anything about who they want on the roster? Not necessarily who's on it.

>>387361759
Developers only mentioned Lammy, Klonoa, Dante (Classic hopefully) and a character from SEGA. Probably Yakuza

>>387361672
2 thirds of the Smash roster are literally who?s.

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>>387359175
>SEGA has still yet to respond about having one of their IP's being represented in this game, but it would likely be a Yakuza character.

PUT TITTY MONSTER IN IT AND I'LL BUY 100 COPIES
SHE IS LITERALLY PERFECT!

Can't wait to play as Raiden and Donte to represent series far older than any of them put together!

The menus feel a lot more stylised than the first game. Less boxes except for the character select icons and portrait boxes. Also gone is the basic photoshop design for the UI.

Yeah, combos do get weaker over time. When characters die, the screen will freeze for a millisecond with a bang noise and the character will fall down and fade into PlayStation button icons.

If Spyro is in the game then that probably means that the Spyro Trilogy Remaster is guaranteed.

>>387362104
Just put Kazuma Kiryu. That is all that is needed from SEGA.

>>387362104
Did you buy that anime fighter she's in, anon?

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Can a doll fight?

no snek no buy
NO SNEK NO BUY

>>387362501
Will she bleed gallons of semen like in Bloodborne?

I don't know why everyone in /v/ is in denial? The game is clearly happening. The leaker was accurate. CG trailer in October, Sony announces Paris Games Week conference for October. Also the trademark gets updated.

Hopefully they don't fuck it up this time.

>>387358817
>>Mementos (Persona x WipEout)


I'd like to see that, that's the only thing psasb did well, the dynamic arenas

>>387361603
In a cell with Dart, just waiting to be revived for PlayStation All-Stars 2.

I liked the first one even though it kinda sucked and terrible balance throughout the characters. Did anyone actually use toro seriously? He was so bad.

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Is kat in the game ?

I really want kat to be in the game

First game was comical amateur hour. Sony had no idea how much potential a brand crossover like this can be and just chose cheap labor to do it.

Maybe they just need a retry.

>>387363387
Toro's square moves were fucking awful.

I like the idea of him switching stances but they executed so poorly on it.

>>387363691
Apparently Sony didn't help the guys making the last one out at all when it came to the roster.

If all this is true it seems like Sony is actually trying with the damn roster this time though, which will probably go a long way.

>>387363872
Sony didn't help them with a lot really.

Shitty roster, bad marketing, rushed production and poor budget.

If Sony actually wants this game to be successful they can make it happen. The sequel already sounds way better than the original.

My dream additions:
Crash
Spyro
Calypso
Gex
Jersey Devil (0% chance this will ever happen)
Pyramid Head
Tomba
Nemesis
Captain Quark
Abe
Mel (hot shots golf)
Max Payne
The President (SRIV)

I think the original could have been a hit had it just used health bars or the ring out system. The stupid supers to kill ruined it for everyone I knew, myself included

>>387364082
All I remember about the "marketing" is when they announced the first two DLC characters they wouldn't shut the fuck up about Starhawk even though most people only wanted to hear about Kat.

>>387361672
I'm more familiar with the PSAS roster than the Smash 4 roster.
Who the fuck are all those weeb sword characters?

>>387364278
I'm so fucking happy they are removing that shit system which made the game unbalanced as all hell.

>>387364296
The only good commercial this game had was the Robot Chicken one. Everything else, especially the live action ones, were so bad.

>>387364374
>Who the fuck are all those weeb sword characters?
Yeah, never heard of fire emblem before smash bros too

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>>387358817
You say in an old post that someone in reddit leak the trailer
>>387283806
Where is it? I can't find it

>Absolutely not hype at the idea this might actually be a thing

Good job, Sony.

>>387364651
The leaker anon is just compiling info he heard from old threads and acted like it was his own.

There was no zip file. If there was it would have made the news rounds which it hasn't.

>>387364767
Why aren't you hyped about a Sony Smash game?

I hope Konami won't be shitty and not allow some of their characters in the game.

We need Snake, Pyramid Head and Alucard in this game.

>>387359625
Yay the autism ship is back again.

Imagine Carmelita being in the game and she turns giant.

>>387365716
Bentley and Murray should be characters before Carmelita. Plus there movesets would be way more interesting.

I want Sayaka/Yumi in the game

Abe and Dart need to be in this game. No question.

Also please add Blasto and Robbit.

Calypso would be a great addition.

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LET ME PLAY THE ALL TIME BEST CHARACTER IN ANY GAME YOU FUCKING TARDS

The game sounds better than the original already.

Life Bars > Super Kills
Crash, Spyro, Noctis, Morgana > The third party characters in the original
GameArts > Superbot

Game is gonna be good. Can't fucking wait.

PlayStation All Stars 2 will replace Melee in EVO Top 8

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>>387366575
agreed

>>387366384
If Locoroco guy is going to be a character than Patapon guy should be a character too.

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>>387366659
i mean why not

>>387366608
Is that was the roster it would take the crown from Smash as the best brawler game.

>>387366756
Who is the guy beside locoroco and and the guy under Nariko?

The leaker anon from the previous thread, if you're reading this please respond we want more information.

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Get this guy in the game. PlayStation All-Stars need Katamari love.

>>387367006
I thought the guy under nariko was some fucked up ty the taz or a overdesigned kangaroo to represent tokyo jungle
but idk

>>387367424
Do you think the rumors are true?

Do you think this game is actually happening?

>Making the sequel another shitty advertisement game instead of going with Playstation Nostalgia.

Not interested.

I want a Shadow of The Colossus X God of War stage where the Titans fight the Colossi in the background or some shit. Fuck I can't believe there are so many threads about this, if this is another fake out I will cry

>>387360351
>newfag
Every year at this time some retard does the same threads with updated characters. It's obviously a fake and I hope mods start banning this spam shit. It's annoying at this point. Come PSX, the retard OP will be gone till this time next year again.

>>387367824
>>387368007
You guys are mad cause you know it's real and are pissed cause it sounds way better than Smash.

>>387367834
I'd rather see War of the Monsters X Shadow of the Colossus honestly.

And to be fair this is the most realistic psas2 rumor ever. So it could be true.

>>387368080
Sure, kid

>>387368197
Any game with large creatures X Shadow of The Colossus would be cool

Why are people believing this fake rumor?

I hope they don´t try again the rival idea because it was so poorly executed. Three out of twelve were good and those ones are:
-isaac vs zeus (a scientific vs a god, fucking genius)
-nathan drake vs sly cooper (drake found a mysterious map and sly must recover that map)
-big daddy vs sackboy (it's interesting because their interaction can only happen between they)
the other eight rival scenes are so cringe that make look sonichu like an opus magnus.

>>387369398
I think the leak mentioned that rival scences are coming back.

Tbh I just rather them do a story mode like the Subspace emissary in Brawl.

>>387369398
you just want an excuse for spikat porn

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>>387368080
Thats not how it work kiddo

>>387369514
I'd kind of prefer something like a bunch of webcomics or a webseries of shorts on youtube, that shows a bunch of characters interacting with each other.
This is in case they can't fit all of this in a game.

>>387367803
They do need exclusives and sony is sorely missing from any sort of vague esports.
But, nah I don't. I would love a reboot (also include some characters from that show), but nah 0 chance.

>>387369561
I hope to god they don't make Spike and Kat rivals just to piss off the Autists.

Just because esports are fucking cancer, doesn't fucking crossover autismos can (or rather should) fit there.

>>387368080
>cause it sounds way better than Smash.
You fuckers said this SAME SHIT with PS All Stars, and you fucking jinxed it and it was shit. You are now insisting on making this one shit as well it seems

It's pretty much confirmed real at this point. It's now a question of if it gets revealed at PGW or PSX.

>>387366575
>>387366608
>>387366804
Y'know sarcasm is really difficult to detect over the internet

>>387370150
It could be funny, but at the same time also retarded, not only because it could be in the same level as DMC mocking classic Dante's design, but also go against their personalities, specially Kat's.

Imagine bringing a cute superhero girl and a nice kid, who wants to be a good boy, only to make them mortal enemies over someone's fanfiction.

At best, make them both uncomfortable or maybe just Kat.

>>387358817
can someone communicate with MARZA animation studios via twitter and ask theme if they made the CG trailer for PSASBR?

>>387358817
>Morgana
>Not one of the waifus

>Noctis
>Not aranea

Why again would I play this?

>>387370435
They're obviously going to either not respond or just say no. Why the hell would they reveal that they are working on a trailer for an unannounced game to a random twitter user.

You can try though.

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Y'know I'm really hesitant on believing this leaker anon after he said this unannounced rumored game could possibly sell more than 13 million copies

Seriously, if the Good Hunter or Raiden are in it I'm fucking sold.

>>387370846
That was probably just a silly guess on his part. I even didn't know Brawl's sales numbers.Was shocked they were so high.

Also it could sell just as well as Sm4sh for Wii U/

>>387366608
>pyramid head
Wasn't silent hill 2 multiplat?

>>387371089
5 million is really stretching it, I'd honestly say 3 million tops

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>>>387366575
>>>387366608
>>>387366804

yeah, especially when in sm4sh you have this kind of combos
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UKf3SIvp1I [Embed]
or advance techniques like this ones
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vaR4RM-qr0 [Embed]
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZJx5F0kTms [Embed]
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vVug_cxA6A [Embed]
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGiWeq_t9V0 [Embed]
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw1elkJwtDo [Embed]
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryfhRB_xihA [Embed]
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH528Pdh1Rk [Embed]

Any legit proof or just someone claims to have seen the game in action?

Jak will come back, right?

I honestly had more fun with PS All Stars then I did Brawl. Not as good as Melee, but eh I still enjoyed myself.

This games sounds way better than the original. But anything sounds way better than the original to be fair because of how disappointing it was.

PlayStation All Stars is the only time when you hear cult fans of shitty platformers like Ty the Tasmanian Tiger and Croc request them because that's the only way they can revive them.

>>387371940
Sony would be retarded if they didn't bring him back

>>387363387
Toro was really underrated. His square attacks weren't great but all his triangles on every stance as well as his stance change moves were solid. It was hilarious being in a FFA and finding a corner to sleep in too.

>>387364445
The game's unbalance had nothing to do with the super system. The system itself was great, the team was just too inexperienced to be able to balance a fighting game. A mechanic doesn't make something unbalanced, how the characters are able to use it does.

>>387373943
He was low tier and not even fun to play.

I hope the sequel buffs him to actually make him usable.

>>387366608
>select the Journey MC
What does the announcer say, /v/?

>>387374109
The system wasn't even fun. That's the thing. Characters like Raiden had great level 1's but Sir Dan was stuck with a shitty level 1 and made him fucking low tier from the start.

>>387358817
I bet Morgana's story is him trying to become human and his rival is either going to be Sly or Drake over some treasure.

>>387374110
I had a ton of fun playing him and picked him often though he wasn't even my main, and he was plenty usable if you mastered his stances. He wasn't high or anything but he has way more options and stronger options at that than a lot of the lower characters. His only real problems are short range, having to choose between AP and utility (though kung fu stance had some real ass hitboxes) and bad supers.
>>387374383
It was very fun actually, I personally thought the simple but effective level of decision making and keikaku moments were satisfying as hell, and again just because it was unbalanced doesn't mean it wouldn't have ended up the same way if it wasn't there, and considering the team developing it very likely would have been just as unbalanced.

>>387374109
Was unbalanced since the only way to win was with a super movement. This system only has a one variable (the time to have a super move) and you can not balance without all the characters look the same. Take for example sm4sh, here each character has a minimum and maximum unique speed, jump and double jump, weight and other variables that determine the mobility of the character and how it can interact with their environment. This is extremely important since it defines how you can attack an enemy and how you must defend yourself. In PSASBR these variables are equal in all the characters because they are irrelevant to execute a super movement. Just look how sm4sh you have strategies to escape from a combo, return to a platform or use different maneuvers to deceive your enemy. In PSASBR you do not have anything like it and if you get caught in a combo you can not do anything. That is why the kill confirm killed the PSASBR competitive scene because it unbalanced the game even more because some characters could perform them and because it lost all the risk factor benefit factor that was supposed to bring this system. Thanks to it all the battles were to see who is the first one that executes a movement to catch the opponent in a kill confirm and this made it very predictable and boring.

>>387375005
The large majority didn't like the system. It made the game much more boring and unexciting.

Life bars are the best alternative since they don't want to use the percentage system from Smash.

>>387374236
https://youtu.be/tQDwoEeO5EE?t=14m23s

>Spyro
Thanks for the laugh man

>>387375328
This is pretty much why they need to remove the system in the sequel.

Really interested to see that CG trailer at Paris Games Week.

I never played this game is it a clone of smash bros ?

>>387375328
Why did you type so much when all it amounted to was "I know about all of the mechanics in Smash but absolutely nothing about PSASBR"? I don't even know what to tackle first here, I mean do you really think the only part of how to play it is pressing the super button? Are you really going to disregard how the characters all have their own minimum/maximum move speeds, jumps and so on, as well as a full movelist that must be utilized to both build meter for one of three radically different supers and land said supers? I can list the game terms too, and these too have a huge impact on how you should attack and defend yourself against an enemy, like risking approaching an enemy to use your stronger close range attacks when he's built up enough to use a level 1 super because you think he will instead try to build to level 2. That you're trying to say combos not letting you do anything is a big bad thing and should never be a bad thing is ludicrous, to say nothing of the heritage of combos and what they can offer in this game based on how the player ends them, there's still an interesting neutral game at play which only gains more levels with the super system. Kill confirms don't remove that factor either, since it doesn't replace the inherent risk of having to build to that super level and land that attack, which can be unsafe or difficult.
Some characters having kill confirms when others didn't was an issue of balance but again that is separate from the super system. Hypothetically, if Shiek can wrack up % really quickly, has a strong and easy to land smash, and can recover easily, does that make the blast zone mechanic entirely unbalanced and unsalvagable? Of course not. Besides that, and despite shitposting, this game plays very differently from Smash and needs a different mindset, one that it really looks like you lack as you're trying to make comparisons that just don't fly.

>>387359175
>Parappa
>Lammy

NO.
Fuck these terrible characters in their terrible games.

Give us Digimon stuff.

>>387376617
Digimon fucking sucks ass. Parappa and Lammy are better than anything Digimon lol.

>>387376865
t. nintendo shill.

>>387375338
The large majority wrote the game off without even playing it or if they did they play for a very short time looking for shallow comparisons and to put it bluntly, doing it wrong. Hell I didn't particularly care about the game until I happened to play the online beta they held but I at least went into it with an open mind and happened to really enjoy the system and see how it worked perfectly. The issue was just the team can't balance characters for shit, or code a non-buggy game, or get any kind of budget for getting higher profile characters. All those problems can be, and sound like they will be fixed, but the super system doesn't have to be removed as well.

>>387376915
t. Digimon shill

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>take franchises from company renowned for its start in the 3D transitional era, making games in 3D, utilizing 3D environments and 3D control schemes where you start building a legacy of 3D game franchises
>make the game a 2D brawler because ??/

literally retarded

>>387377148
If you actually played the original (which you didn't clearly) you would know that the characters transitioned very well and felt like they were from their games.

>>387371089
>That was probably just a silly guess on his part.
Silly guess my ass, he should know more if he's trying to leak shit and actually know his shit

>>387377148
How angry does it make you guys to see the Japanese gaming industry fully support the PS4 even though it sells significantly less than Nintendo systems? What does it feel like knowing the Nintendo system could sell a bajillion units and you still will never get to play games like FF VII Remake, Kingdom Hearts 3, The Evil Within 2,Monster Hunter World, the next From Software game and God knows how many already released and unreleased games?Also, seeing the colossal success of the PS4 which practically ensures that almost every game gets released for it while you guys have to beg and cry for even the most humble indie games.

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>>387377425
>This fucking assblasted response over a Smash clone

>>387377425
Damn anon, calm the fuck down

Show me where reggie touched you

>>387377425
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>>387371350
Fucking half those characters' games are multiplat, anon.

>>387377331
Most did, and to their credit the roster overall played very differently to each other (even those two), but they pulled specifically from the newest games for each character, which left some characters like Ratchet and especially Sir Dan out in the cold. Ratchet didn't have many of his older classic weapons and some of Sir Dan's look, personality and animations as well as the stage were based off of the shitty PSP remake. Then they made him slower because they had to have more heavy archetype characters in the game.

>>387376513
I know what I'm talking about because I saw the competitive community moria very fast after their only major tournament in evo 2014 in which only 20 people saw it live.
> Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH658F0szI8
Look, I can state that the smash characters have all these variables since they are registered in database like smashboard. In contrast with PSASBR I can not find a record of how fast the characters are, what is the jump, what is the hitbox, what is the weight or other variables. The only thing I find is how much AP generates an attack and a combo. And yes, kill confirms killed the competitive scene because why I need to use a level 2 if you can do it with a level 1 in a 1vs1. There is no need to evaluate the risk / benefit for all, that's the problem. In smash you all the time are evaluating the risk/benefit because there are so many variables that you can sacrifice one in pro of another.
The fact that this game was never competitive even between the most sony fanboys gives me the reason especially when games even older as CTR are still played in retro tournaments and PSASBR no.

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>>387377425
Is that why PS All Stars 2 is being made anon? So you can actually have a decent Smash Bros-like game because you won't ever get to play the real thing?

>>387378180
sorry for the grammar, english is not my first language

>>387378180
Yes it wasn't a popular game. That has nothing to do with supposed flaws with the super system but with how it was badly balanced, cheaply made and poorly advertised. Implying that it's not deep because there isn't much online information or documentation on the game (when this was also it's first release, compared to a very long running series) is even more ridiculous, and again a game's depth relies more on how the characters use the systems over the system itself. Kill confirms were a balance issue and I've already said the game was poorly balanced, which was one of the things that led to the scene's demise, but level 1 confirms were rare and almost all were patched out later in the game's life, the few remaining ones requiring difficult setups and/or being very unsafe if blocked. However even disregarding that, there is still a risk in aiming to go for the same confirm over and over, Sir Dan players know that all too well. This game has many unique and interesting variables of it's own that stem from the super system which you seem to just write off for no reason. The system itself simply needs a competent team behind it to take another shot, instead they're throwing the baby out with the bathwater because of people who complained they couldn't hold a conversation with it when they could speak to another family fine.

>>387366608
The fuck is a tigershark?

>>387365057
Not him, but i suspect it may be due to the first one being atrocious garbage

>>387379787
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invizimals

>>387380120
oh shit, it's the pokemon go killer

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>>387376617
Bad taste

>>387376932
game was trash, friend.

Like, literal trash

But, apparently, you like trash. That's on you

>>387380324
You achieved so much with this post.

>>387379540
You can tell yourself that the idea was perfect, but the truth is that reality says something else. That no one played it in competition and that the kill confirms killed the community because they had characters like Kat, Kratos, Dante and raiden who have many kill confirms and characters that did not have any kill confirms like Sir Daniel, Sweet tooth, Fat Princess or rachet even after the patch shows it to me.
By the way, sony make a considerably investment in advertising for the game because doing these two commercials are not cheap.
> Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHcFJBrv8Pg
> Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEIapCzxMz8

Well I say goodbye, has been an interesting talk about this game.

>>387380187
It's nothing like pokemon

>>387380642
you're right, its nothing like anything relevant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxTYkuSIjk4
The best thing about this game was its trailers.

>>387380498
Again, the competitive scene died down for many reasons, the super system itself was not one of them. You're trying to correlate two completely different things that have a very loose connection at best. Those commercials were the extent the game got as far as support from Sony is concerned which isn't really much, and the budget the game itself had was nonexistent. Also literally all four of those characters you posted had multiple kill confirms both before and after the patches. I'm not sure if you actually played this game at all.