>help NPC with quest in RPG >deny the reward like a true

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>Spend a large amount of money to buy a raffle ticket on a festival at a RPG
>There's an actual chance of you losing it

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>>387320316
>there's no, even better, secondary reward
Shame on you for even wanting one. Some hero you are.
>>387320481
It's called a raffle for a reason.

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>help npc with first quest
>receive a good weapon
>do second part of the quest
>receive another weapon
>its worse than what he gave me earlier

>>387320316
>Pillage the dude's spot for the quest-giver
>Give hime the money, and only get a third of it back
>Literally no other reward for it
I don't know why you'd ever leave in that quest.

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>Quest is built up to be difficult
>Go away to build up strength
>Complete quest
>Reward is no longer useful

>>387320783
You can't expect him to give you all of his good weapons. He has to save some for the next schmuck that comes along to run his errands.

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>>387323784
>Quest is trying to force you to like a god
>God is still acting like a evil duchebag
>Gets mad when I help the another evil dude

Here Zamorak

>>387320316
I think that it's retarded when games do this. "Oh hey you were so nice to decline a reward so here you go, I can at least give you my grandpa's butter knife which just so happens to be the Mythic Sword". It's metagaming most of the time and lends itself to most RPGs being painfully leaned towards Good paths. Bioware suffers from it the most:
>Good: I will save your kitty and accept no reward! Oh, you've got one for me anyway. Oh, it's an ancient scroll of protection from undead that you stole from your necromancer dad. How neat.
>Neutral: I will help ya, but for your lunch money. Hell yeah bitch, here's your cat, give me your 5 gold pieces.
>Evil: I will eat the cat in front of you for no reason but the evul lulz, and then kill you. Huh, you aren't carrying the Good reward scroll on you when you're killed, weird.

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>>387320783

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>>387324456

>>387324456
Why are they fighting, aren't they supposed to be friends? What the hell is going on?

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>>387324517

>>387324535
pee pee ?
poo poo !

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>>387324637

>>387324535
It's the story arc where wojak finally had enough of pepe's poopoo peepee hijinks.

>>387320316

True altruism cannot exist.

>Inb4 muh religion

You do it for Gods acceptance.

>>387324610
>>387324517
>>387324456

I don't know why but for some reason I fucking love these.

>>387324748

These are always so fucked up that I cannot help but find them funny.

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>>387324748

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>NPC pays me to do some shit
>go to finish quest
>can you maybe do that again? I will reward you again ofc
>dialogue options include "yes but at a higher price", click it
>I-I don't know about this, how higher?
>options are "changed my mind", "a bit higher" and "a LOT higher", choose 3rd one
>what? no I can't give you this much, I'll pass
>(persuasion)you know I'm the best man for this kind of job and I've already proved it once. I doubt that you can find anyone else as experienced and willing as I am
>o-okay, I guess I can give you the amount you want, don't ask for more because I literally have nothing else left to give you
>deal

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>>387324748
>>387325302

>>387325310

Lemme guess, The (((Witcher))) 3?

>Be NPC
>Some autist hero comes up to me
>Has my cat
>"I-it's c-cool if you d-don't want t-to reward me"
>Fair enough, take my cat
>Throws an autistic shitfit for not giving him a reward anyway

>>387320316
>Quests have a finite time before some other adventurer solves it.
>Quests which are too difficult for ordinary adventurers have the belongings of previous dead adventurers who failed the quest added to its reward.
>If a quest isn't solved before some time it fails automatically and the questgiver might disappear, dying while trying to solve it himself.
>You may be refused to take on a quest because there is a workers guild of adventurers who have strong armed the market and you don't have a license.
>Questgiver refuses to reward you because you are not protected by the laws of the adventurer guild
>Quest was actually a plot to lure you off to some far away place while bandits loot and pillage the villages.
>Quest reward was stolen while you were questing
>Questgiver hired multiple adventurers and you have to compete with them.

>>387325442
Close. 2nd one.

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>final boss wanted to destroy the world
>have the chance to kill him
>no anon, stop! If you kill him you'll be just like him

>>387325559
>NPC gives you a quest to kill yourself
>Reward is New Game+
>NPC will comment on you being back next time you see him.

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>NPC fucked up
>he asks you to help him
>say no

>>387321106
>>Give hime the money, and only get a third of it back
>>Literally no other reward for it
I don't know why they did this for GTA 5 other than to fuck over moralfags. But why do that when they can get their moralfaggotry through Micheal?

>>387325860
Ok this is interesting. If you were given the opportunity to Load Game by a god, essentially resetting the entire universe, including you, to some specified time, but not knowing if determinism is real, would you do it? What if instead, you were give New Game+, retaining all your memories but being born in completely different circumstances.

>>387326027

>Kill thief
>Keep money for yourself

APEX
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>>387324982
it's theoretically possible to take actions that give you no type of gain in any way.

>>387323918
What quest?

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>>387326193
>kill thief
>keep money for yourself
>go back to kill the victim too
DAMAGED

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>>387325806
>no anon, stop! If you kill him you'll be just like him
>Kill him anyway
>You collapse to the ground
>Anon, no! Your destinies are intertwined! If he dies, you'll be just like him...
>...dead
>You die

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>random fuck on the street asks me for help to do some dumb meaningless shit
>has nothing to do with the story at all
>ask him for a reward
>he gets offended and starts acting like a bitch for the remainder of the quest

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>>387324535
Best friends are ones that can fight and still be friends.

>>387326107
I wouldn't take the New Game+ because i might be born a nigger

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>>387320316

Usually the "decline reward" reward is some kind increase in relationship.

I always liked the balance is Mount and Blade because it usually a trade off between short term financial gain (Which can be pretty important early on) and long terms benefits from honor and village/lord relations.

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>Finish all of the side quests in the starting town
>Go out in to the world over leveled and stomp eveything

>>387326936
big heist or something stupid sheit. You steal the stone of jas

>>387320783
Even worse:
>its the same weapon type as the first one just slightly better
>it looks fuckin dumb compared to the other

>>387320316
>>387327914
>good things happen to good people :)
>make love go around <3

I hate such naive moral faggotry, realistically you shouldnt get anything positive, at most you will get the reputation of being easily tricked and fooled and get scam artist go after you

>Beating the postgame secret boss gives you the best sword in the game
>There are no battles left to use it on besides random encounters

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>NPC forced to work with you
>If you bruise his ego even once he plots against you the moment he gets the chance

>>387328335
I'm sorry about your mental damage, anon.

>>387327771
But if you're reborn as a nigger you can false flag as a nigger (from being originally white) while actually being a nigger in color!
Take them down from the inside, you feel me?

Does it make you a good person if you do it expecting a reward?
Kinda like when betafags get rejected and play the whole "huh but I was nice to you :( " card

>>387328432
fuck dead money

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>>387320316
Just take the reward, mongo. Only fools work for free.

>>387328445
its called being an adult kid

>>387328521
There's no such thing a selfless good deed.

>>387328335

>Do something nice for someone
>That shouldn't make them like you more

I'm sorry you're so damaged.

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>Do quest
>Friendly person dies
>Mediocre rewards
>There is actually a way to save friendly person, leading to massive rewards
>You must have dumped your points earlier on the game's equivalent of speech

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>>387320316
>save town from utter anhiliation
>shopkeeper doesn't even give you a discount

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>>387328579
>t. adult
BING1 BING! 1UP WAHOO

>>387328335
>>387328579
>>387328660

Shit's getting deep on /v/.

>>387328660
I helped a little dog today from not being crushed by a car, why was that selfish?

>>387320316
If being nice was as profitable as being bad everyone would be nice OP.

A good person does something and expects nothing in return.

>>387328521
when you consider for a moment what kind of quest/mission you do and the fact that things like experience/leveling up are just part of the game mechanics, sometimes its pretty retarded to say "hurr hurr dont need a reward"

>>387326027
but I like helping them :(

>tfw altruistic in a selfish world
Even talking about it makes me feel like a fucking tool but how do you relay thoughts and communicate ideals otherwise

>>387328768
Do you feel good about it?
If so, then yes.

>>387326107
As long as I am sure to keep my memories, I would risk it.
Losing my memories though would be like being someone else entirely. It would lose the purpose.

>>387328768

I think the point is that you always gain something on some level or another.

For example, by saving that dog, you've saved yourself the guilt of knowing that you didn't later.

>>387328458
No, because I couldn't accomplish that from the severe hit to my INT I would receive

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>>387328914

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>>387328392
>enemies don't respawn
>you have nothing to use the sword on but weak stragglers you missed

>>387328660
selfish deeds that have positive effects on others aren't bad
selfish is never universally bad or immoral

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>Help NPC
>Bad guys tell you to stop helping out
>Offer something as a bribe
>Decline thinking you'll probably be able to get it in some way anyway
>You can't
>And the quest reward is shit
>You're now forever gimped
>In a MMO

>>387329021
for one, my life is probably going to be longer than 1 day
>>387329093
never said anything about morals
don't put words in my mouth

>>387320316
Not my personal blog but I have been to Sri Lanka a while ago and those guys are heavy on budhism and karma - right? But what I learned is that they expect an instant gratification or reward, like they'll help you or guide you through the forest and then they immediately ask you to pay up, they are supposed to be spiritually enlightened with the whole karma concept but apparently not.
Anyway, you reminded me of them OP.

>>387328660
Of course there is. Giving up your life is pretty selfless.

>>387325806
>If you kill him you'll be just like him
This is the trope I hate the most in any storytelling media. It's so nonsensical and forced. Holy shit.
No, killing a terrorist that was going to kill hundreds of innocents doesn't make you as bad as him. It makes you a fucking hero.

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>if you kill me you'll be just like me!
>i guess you're right
>BANG

>>387328816
weird how that works isn't it
but know this, all actions you take will be for your own gain even if that gain doesn't seem so apparent. since you do not actually make decisions, but only rationalize actions you take.

>>387324153
Yeah evil paths are fucking stupid in games lately. I don't want to be a psychopath cannibal I wanna be an smart evil that doesn't gets shit and not care about the repercussions for others

>>387328335
probably why I keep getting nobodies in Pillars of Eternity who come up asking for cash. I always give them cash. They could buy a farm with the amount of cash they get given for nothing.

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>>387328723
>kill an important person in town that works with shopkeeper
>tell shopkeeper you killed that person
>make a joke about killing that person
>still keep discount

>>387329196
but the person you replied to asked if it made you a good person or not, that's morals

>>387329209
i think you don't know a thing about the place you went to

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>>387329257
>character immediately starts drinking the blood of the innocent from infant skulls and enslaving the world because you were a little pragmatic or selfish a ttimes
>you have no control over this

this shit really rustles my jimbobs

>>387328901
I helped a coworker pack their stuff to move and I didn't feel good.

>>387329442
Probably, that's one of the reasons I went there.

>>387329497
I can guarantee you that was still done for peace of mind

>>387329497
you earned their appreciation

>>387329258
>weird how that works isn't it
Very. Sometimes self-awareness can be too much.
>all actions you take will be for your own gain
Sometimes I question my own actions for example: I'll wait on people or in in situations where I could just leave or decide otherwise, and I don't gain much other than mild irritation depending on how much time I've potentially wasted. This is a poor example though and I'm rambling. I just put other people before myself which is probably why I do that type of shit.
>you do not actually make decisions
tfw free will doesn't exist

>>387325559
Name one game

>>387320316
I wish more games would do this. It would make playing a moral fag a more difficult and interesting.

Shadowrun games are the only games that I can think of that do this. There's a few times in both Hong Kong and Dragonfall where taking the moral high ground gives you little to no reward or puts you in a more difficult situation.

>>387329580
Why the fuck do spoilers randomly decide to not work ree

>>387329258
>>387329580
>since you do not actually make decisions, but only rationalize actions you take.
That's such an exaggeration. It's just that you often make decisions on a whim or emotionally as opposed to rationally, the rationalization comes in later.

>>387329638

When I was a kid there was two things I noticed about moralfag vs evil options

1. Evil option had more physical rewards, like money or loot. Good option was usually just XP.

2. The good option was usually more difficult. The evil one let you weaken the enemy before you fought or avoid a fight with an extremely powerful enemy.

These days there's no real difference.

>>387329319
It's not even lately, he's talking about Baldirs gate 1. There's also a lawful evil dwarf characterized by his love of money who will leave the party if you're too good even though being good almost always gets you more money.

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>get weapon early in game from easy quest
>weapon earned from quest later in game is significantly weaker

>>387328768
Why did you save the dog? Think hard and you will find the answer to your query.

>>387329840
>tfw the evil option is the hardest path in the game because everyone else turns against you

>>387328901
If he did it for the sole reason of helping the dog it isn't selfish. Sure you'll feel good about it but that wasn't the intent. Just because you get rewarded, no matter how insignificant, it isn't selfish based on the intent of the action

>>387328660
I returned a wallet

>>387329021
Nihilism 101. Read more books college freshman.
Your actions and deeds have effects intended and unintended that reverberate much farther and longer than you think.

>>387329580
>I just put other people before myself which is probably why I do that type of shit.
Yes, because you are motivated to. Either out of fear or desire. Even if it's minor fears and desires.
>>387329708
I seriously think all rationalization, even what you do before consciously making a decision, is built around how you already feel. We can't exactly manipulate what we want and feel, and so we can't choose. That's what I think anyway.

>>387320316
>+light side points

>>387329947
why do people cry when a loved one dies? it's selfish, not bad, but definitely selfish

>pick the good option
>don't get any delicious cummies

>>387329847
Yeah I hate that about companion morality.

>>387329551
A person who is uneased by not helping people sounds altruistic to me.

>>387330104
>I seriously think all rationalization, even what you do before consciously making a decision, is built around how you already feel. We can't exactly manipulate what we want and feel, and so we can't choose. That's what I think anyway.
Even when you feel a certain negative emotion you still have the ability to go through with something because it has a later pay off. Decisions ARE more emotional than rational, but the idea that rational thinking has no effect whatsoever on your decision making ability is in my opinion ridiculous.

The idea that free will doesn't exist is an excuse for laziness, because everything is predetermined anyway. Or so the rationalization goes.

>spend game killing X people
>person Y of X group also hates X people
>forced to work with person Y

I fucking hate this. Enemy of my enemy doesn't equal a friend if you're part of the same freaks or elves

>>387330207
People cry for many different reasons some selfish and some not. Maybe their life was cut short and they feel sorrow that they won't be able to live long fulfilling life. Emotions are complex and we can express them for selfish and unselfish reasons

>>387328717
>Not going all Speech/Charisma/Persuasion as soon as you start
You deserve whatever you get

>>387329330
I'm a very charitable person in PoE because after raiding Raedric's Hold, I was richer than all of the shops content combined. I was begging for ways to spend that money somewhere.

>>387330059
But why should he care about them?

>>387329154
>game has a tournament in the tutorial
>final guy offers you a bribe to throw the match
>reward for beating him is an item that'll be replaced as soon as you can buy items
>reward for letting him win is an item that'll last maybe a few hours more

Game is Kingdom Hearts 2.

>>387329226
It's selfish because you want to stop the suffering in your life. If you're giving it up to save someone else, it's stopping suffering to you and giving yourself some good feelings right before you die.

>>387330318
>Even when you feel a certain negative emotion you still have the ability to go through with something because it has a later pay off.
That's a good point. Still no free will, but a good point.
Thing with free will is that your belief in it or not doesn't matter. You'll play along either way. You can't really use it to make excuses for anything. Don't think there's anything wrong with laziness anyway.

>>387330612
Yeah, I've finished upgrading the fort and now I've got nothing to spend all that cash the game showers you with. NPC wants to sell me a trinket for 6000 cash. Okay. Then they move into the rich part of town and I still have too much cash.

It just doesn't end.

>>387328579
I agree. Only person who should matter in your life, is yourself. Anyone who doesn't, isn't interested in improving themselves.

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>Build your character as strong as possible to get through game smoothly

>Get stuck in part of the game that doesn't allow you to use any of the skills you built

>>387320316
>Doing it for free
You only have yourself to blame

>>387329196
>for one, my life is probably going to be longer than 1 day
A completely meaningless observation. When compared with eternity, one day and a thousand years both lean towards nothing. Anything divided by infinite lean towards 0. Life leans towards 0% of what comes after death. In other words, how much you live mean absolutely jack shit if you stop existing forever eventually.

>>387331385
the human mind can't comprehend the breadth of infinity you walnut
it's not a good comparison

>>387330059
Not at all what that anon was trying to say. It's not about what our actions cause in the world. It's about the meaning of it for oneself. Without conscienceness, the aftermatch of all you did can mean nothing to you.
Maybe you should read more books besides cheap modern philosophy they focus on in college these days.

Also, see >>387331385

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>this whole thread
How did we go from incessant shitposting to this, lads?

>>387331941
shitposting has its uses

/v/ - Armchair Philosophists

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>Game
>Speech skill is not treated at something that will help you for the quest or as a shortcut
>Speech is treated as the only way to get to the golden outcome of a quest

>>387331541
>the human mind can't comprehend the breadth of infinity you walnut
You can locagically understand how to apply its significance in a finite world.
>it's not a good comparison
We have been using infinity mathematically for a while now. That also implies using it for comparisons. I really don't follow you.

I don't mean to offend, but I get the feeling you just don't like thinking about some things that unsettles you and try to dismiss them.

>>387332276
logically*, not locagically

>>387324535
Pepe and wojack memes have been pretty wierd and deepest lore ever since peepee poopoo.

>RPG where you can't have all of the characters in your party at once.
>Game forces you to use these characters at specific points later in the game.

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>>387325302

>>387332118
nothin wrong with thinking for yourself and seeing what you can find out
beats only reading about it

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Don't you know that true good is done without hope, without witness and without reward?

>>387329497
Maybe you did it not to feel good, but to avoid that little bit of guilt you would have felt if you had not helped them.

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>>387329892
>Most powerful weapon for three quarters of the game is in the second chapter
>Easy to miss and disappears after leaving the area

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>>387328768
If you had been hit instead the drive could have been charged with vehicular manslaughter or third degree murder or swerved and wrecked or killed a whole family. Maybe the dog is carrying a highly contagious disease that leads to dog extinction.
Nah jk, iunno man.

>>387329580
I do this too and my gf gives me shit for being too nice or polite to people when they don't necessarily deserve the courtesy that I'm trying to force on them

Like my conscious is warped trying to help people more than myself and it causes issues for both of us

I've been trying to focus it more at her and friends but it's still hard. Working in retail definitely has helped me be more selfish

>>387328392
>beat all sidequests
>final boss receives a massive power up and becomes the hardest boss in the game

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>>387321106
I like to collect taxes for lords in mountain blade and avoid them until the end game when I can just smash their shit in war.

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>Prologue has a silver chest hidden in a corner of the content

>You have to play counterintuitively to get the resources you need to open it, giving up on completing other quests

>Can finally open it after trial and error over several attempts at the prologue

It's a single piece of currency in it

>>387333704
>it's a mimic

>>387329494
>eh I don't like the idea of anarchy and might makes right, guess I'll side with the Angels
>"Ok our plan is to genocide these people btw no takebacks or betrayals :)"

>>387328901
woh.......... realy made me think.............................

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>>387332804
>item needed to give a huge boost to a merchants inventory is only available via an escort quest much earlier in the game that in no way hints that it's the reward.
>it's really easy to fail and it doesn't tell you until you finish the quest and get the bad reward

Isn't there a shop in the first Zelda where if you save up and can afford the biggest option, the shopkeeper straight up robs your ass and tells you stop being such a try hard?

>>387330038
Thats not my wallet

>>387324535
pepe is a troll and won't let wojack just feel his feels

>>387320316
>find dragon in the far north inside of a cave
>meet high stat requirements to talk the dragon out of fighting
>rewards you with a couple nice items
>reload and kill dragon
>he had the same items and more to give in his loot

I reloaded again, made peace, then slaughtered him for his treasure.

>>387324982
true altruism doesn't have to exists.

>see a guy running away from a police officer
>punch him in the face
>get 50 bux for being a good citizen

>>387325478
every game instantly makes sense when you assume the protagonist has autism

>randomly talking to everyone
>does whatever people ask him to do
>shifts between being a deity, a psycho, or an emotionless robot

>>387320783
i'd start suspecting about some random npc who has OP weapons all the time hahaha

>>387335953
>miss and hit the officer
>two stars

>>387328392
a constant in Terraria, "so for this boss I really recommend x gun which is dropped by this one boss with a 15% chance and requires a rare item to summon"

>>387329209
be a buddhist
everyone assumes your practicing "perfect person" way
really just need some money to live on,
this asshole is mad you wanted money for doing a service.

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>quest forces you to escort NPC
>he walks slower then you

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>>387334719
Fucking smt, why cant i be lawful without genociding everyone or brainwashing them. Guess its chaosfagging for me.

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>>387338102
>chaosfagging
"Yo dude, kill everyone in your way just simply because you're an edgelord. Oh and also, my demons are going to rape everyone and their mothers now, so have fun."
Neutral is the thinking mans choice.

>>387320316
you fucking greedy kike

>>387338426
To be fair chaosfagging in smt isnt always flat out evil oftentimes its just doing what you want rather than sucking yhvhs cock.

>>387338885
Most of the time chaos is doing what Lucifer wants, but you just get the idea that it's your own choices.

>God gives you free will
>Punishes you for exerting it in any way except that which he deems right
Why even have free will, really makes me think.

>>387339154
>implying God didn't know humans would betray him
>implying he actually got mad
>implying this isn't what he really wanted anyways
>implying he doesn't want mankind to evolve and take his place
Nothing unites people better than a common enemy.

>>387339007
What if what we want just happens to be the same thing?

>>387339410
Then refer back to >>387338426

>>387339358
I honestly cant understand what youre >implying can you dumb it down for me?

>>387339478
Hmm so i guess neutral is the way to go for true free will?

>>387339575
First point was that since God is all knowing he should've known mankind would eat that shit and gain knowledge anyways. If he knew that it would happen and still got mad for it, there has to be a good reason for it. The reason being God wants us to evolve as species to take his place as the next god/gods.

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>>387339154
>God is omniscient and omnipotent
>Free will totally exists bro
Christianity is really tragic though. Imagine being a social entity who can't explain his origin and can't create true companionship. Shit's fucked I swear.

>>387339738
Nah neutral is mostly just flipflopping between chaos and law, without actually doing anything. You're just pushing the problems farther away. Basically everything is fucked, just pick the one you think is less fucked for you.

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>Talk to random NPC's
>"Hey Tourist want a job? go deliver this letter to other city you have 7 days to do it."
>Ok i have a car so is just 1 day of travel no problem
>pic related happens every second
>reward is almost no money and no change in reputation.

>>387339869
I guess its chaosfagging for me too bad I cant save hoyboi and monkey.

>>387339887
Is this 7.62?

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>>387320316
>there's not even a reputation system in the game

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>>387340213
Aye.

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>>387340349
>Reputation/Morality is a stat with numerical progression instead of a dynamic mechanic

>>387340570
Alpha Protocol did it well by having individual reputations for each major character.

>>387339794
I recently gave up on Christianity and any organized religion to just believing in a God.

It just seems off that in times we need Him most we're met with deafening silence. Where's before all sorts of answered were received and recorder in books? Just seems odd.

Why am I to trust man, who is subject to the ills of free will, on God's word. I'll find the truth someday.

End of blog

>>387320645
.yeah but no karma, no xp , no nothing.

at least in real life you get a chemical kick in your brain that makes you feel good

in a videogame, not so much.