Why aren't you playing Ion Hazzikostas Magnum Opus that

>>387306105
content was so bad i managed to escape my addiction

>>387306152
This. I subbed for a month in July, played for 3 days and never touched it again. I have no desire to play the next expansion even if its kul-tiras and actually good. Its too late. I would only consistently come back for WoW2.

>>387306105
He looks like a brainlet version of Johnny Sins

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I don't have enough of a life to waste on it

WOW has been shit since Cat.

We'll probably even before that but cat was where it became noticeable.

I'm that fag who just wants a Vanilla legacy server.

>people unironically think this greek fuck has made a good expansion

all he seems capable of doing is tacking grind and timegating on top of grind and timegating on top of grind and timegating

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>>387306152
Same here. Feels good to be free

>>387306152
This. I went from paying $15 a month for WoW, to hundreds per month in PS4 games.

>>387307017
Nah MoP was a pleasant surprise besides the end after Cata and you dont have any argument besides memes to tell me otherwise.

>>387306213
Likewise, game is so stale nowadays, the only thing that could bring me back is a genuine sequel with updated graphics, instead of the lipstick-on-a-pig pseudo-2000s graphics the game has currently.

The fact that they're continuing the trend of recycling recognisably named enemies from BC just like in WoD (Archimonde, KJ) is creatively bankrupt. The game is absolutely past its prime and needs a reboot.

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>there are people who don't play Gnomes

>>387309450
I want to pinch her cheeks.

I did, but I got so burned out after farming Mythic Nighthold for five months, that I've probably logged about six hours total since Tomb of Sargeras released.

What the fuck were they thinking with the Broken Shore?

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>>387309450
>there are avatar fags autistic enough to post their ugly characters in every single wow thread

Legion feels like a cheaper version of wod. How the hell did they manage to do even that is beyond me.

>>387306152
>>387306213
Me too. I had a bad case of the WoW itch but it completely disappeared in 4 days. Worst money spent in my entire life.

>>387308798
>removal of talent trees
>story became goofy and jolly panda bullshit
>"a pleasant surprise"
Can you tell why I know you're a furfag?

>>387306152
>content was so bad i managed to escape my addiction
Unironically this. Now i have so much free time it's unreal. The more i think about it the scarier it gets. Years thrown out the window to a video game.

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>Guild died after mythic Gul'dan
>Played like a week of ToS
>Quit
>Haven't been as happy in months
Quitting felt amazing and can't believe I kept playing for so long when it wasn't fun.

What's even coming for Legion's next patch?

If I just want to play arena do I need to grind out AP to fill out my artifact weapon for each spec?

>>387311526
>only argument is a meme one

What did I fucking tell you.

>>387311526
Yeah this stupid turbo-edge be #prepared crap is so much better than ""jolly panda bullshit""

>>387313721
Starcraft

>>387314108
Yes. and grind to level 50 honor.

>>387306152
I played wow for 9 years and quit 2 weeks in to Legion.

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>>387306105

I don't play Legion because i don't like the idea of Artifact weapons.

Are they here to stay? i don't see how they can remove them with later expansions

>>387306105
My friends bought me a sub at the start of legion. We blew through Emerald Nightmare, I had four Leggos by the time I quit during the first week of the story line quests for Nighthold. Helya was interesting but annoying. Grinding mythic+ got super boring after the 999th time doing the same dungeon. My warrior tank was still OP even after they tried nerfing the shield we had. World quests were a better option than dailies because it gave the illusion of choice. My friends are pressuring me to return for Argus but I doubt I will.

I want to impregnate an Elf

The only thing I enjoyed about Legion is the first few weeks while I explored the new world, did all the world/story quests and then when the AP grind hit, I quit. Actually I quit after the first raid tier Emerald Nightmare or what was it because it was so fucking dogshit.

>>387314379
They're getting rid of them next expansion.

>>387314379
Theory is we use their power during the last boss fight in Argus raid to imprision Sarggy, so they lose their power letting Blizzard either abandon them or make the AP grind start over again in the next Kul Tiras expansion with N'zoth and Aszhara summoning the Void Lords

>>387306152
>tfw I could finally escape in WotLK, because they decided to trivialize old content by removing attunements and adding welfare-epics
Felt good, man

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>>387306152
mee to.

>log in
>tells me to grind world quests
>log out

>>387306105
Because it isn't fun for me. It's just a straight path of content. It's the same with all big themepark mmorpgs they create new content and ignore previous stuff. All content should always remain current.

>>387314563
The game is so badly designed now (assuming you are a player and not a greedy game dev who wants to milk your money), they let people grind for months, the grind is locked behind timegates so you have to login every day and can't do it straight if you are hardcore, doing more isn't rewarded, after a few months of grind the announce a new system so your months of grindings are worthless. In fact, new players get your months of grind in a few days, so they can catch up.

On top of that RNG on drops, shitty bosses, green shit everywhere.. Glad I quit.

>>387314742
But anon isn't the prospect of getting a 1% chance at a mount because you reached super duper quadruple exalted exciting?

>>387314964
Wait they added mounts to the World Quest satchel box things?
I'm coming back niggers!

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>>387309925
>mfw wow itch flares up twice a year but i just go back to private servers

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>>387315003

>>387315163
>Not understanding sarcasm

>>387315163
the bad part is it's actually normies and 12 year olds that play wow
very few of us poopsockers are left, even in the nerd world being a fat wow nerd makes you a pariah now because of how bad the game is

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>>387314964
Fuck them for adding the actual warrior one as a shitty 1% mount in those bags.

>All Valarjar uses Storm Drakes
>Fuck you warriors have a retarded proto-drake to go with your rehashed Halls of Valor class hall instead

>>387306152
Same as that. I no longer even get the usual urges to give it another chance.

Dare I say, is WoW finally actually dying?

>>387306105
Anything World of Warcraft is shit, has always been shit and will stay shit.

People that like WoW and went to other MMOs killed those as well with their shitty ideas, they even killed CoE and Crowfall with their stupid suggestions on the kick starter and forums leading up to it.

Fucking losers.

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>>387306105
I unsubbed when they showed what they really were.

>metzen changed the game because his daughter asked why a character was showing her stomach

>>387317087
>his daughter
wasn't it some random forum posters daughter?

>>387317087
So instead of explaining what sex is or sexual attraction to his daughter he decided to censor an entire game that millions were enjoying.
Americans, ladies and gentlemen.

>>387317346
yeah it was
"becaue she wants to" is the only answer

>>387306152
>people said WoD was bad
>It took Legion to make me stop playing

>>387317087
the new design looks better? you aspies are just angry you don't have more jerkoff material

>>387306105
But I am playing it right now

>>387317693
No it doesn't. The new outfit is an over-designed clusterfuck.

Stop putting question marks at the end of statements, by the way. It makes you look like a turbo-retard.

>>387317693
a little girl not old enough to even play the game, yet is able to get models changed in the game? I dont even play Wow and that gets me mad, its fucking retarded. Blizzard is the pandering corp

>>387317693
it would if the colours worked together desu

>>387317481
>Now see honey, some virgins on the internet are so pathetically desperate that they will fetishize anything, even a rotting corpse. As a company it's our job to sell even to the lowest of society.

>>387306105
dun wan 2 lol

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>>387306105
Artifact Weapons and all their sub-systems ruined what could have been a decent expansion.

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>everyone complains about the AP grind
>something they literally give you at every turn for even doing something as simple as logging into the game
>no one ever complains about the gearing grind, where gear can titanforge anywhere from 5-60 item levels above base making you grind the same content over and over to get the highest forge possible.
>no one complains about the stupid legendary design that LITERALLY PUNISHED PLAYERS WITHOUT THEM and rewarded players who already had at least one by improving THEIR chances at getting more
>no one complains about grinding for legendaries means endlessly grinding pointless content you've already out geared and leveled just for a shot at a garbage one that destroys your DPS, healing, or survivability
>no one complains about how a BiS legendary can be a good 300-500k difference in your DPS at this point
>no one complains that PvP is literally the worst it's ever been with "templates" that carbon copy every class and just give you more stats the higher item level you have
>no one complains that sub rouges, ferals, and enh shamans can oneshot even tanks in a single global and literally every other class hits like wet noodles
>no one complains that vital talents are hidden behind the stupid honor leveling system
>no one complains about the rampant gold selling and botting that blizz has turned a blind eye to, despite being "proactive" about it at the start of the expansion.
>no one complains about rampant hacking/botting in PvP that blizzard continues to ignore while constantly runs around behind "major" raiding guilds to continuously slap their wrists for breaking ToS during World First races, just to reverse the decision a few days later when the heat has died down

>everyone is just stuck on artifact power, literally the most welfare system they've ever implemented in game.

Unless you literally do nothing but sit and shitpost in Trade Chat, there's no reason you shouldn't be swimming in AP.

>>387306105
>You literally have no excuse.
I don't want to work a second job that doesn't pay real money.

>>387318941
this, fuck the mandatory grinding on that shit.

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>>387318941
>goblin named incase

clever.

>>387319580
People definitely do complain about titanforging and the rest.

The problem with AP is that it forces you to do shit you don't really want to do. I don't want to go back and do EN. Mythic dungeons I've been doing since the start of the expansion, changing some numbers does not make it new content.

I can just skip them, but then I miss out to some autistic guy who absolutely loves doing the same thing every single day. It doesn't matter if you only do heroic really but past that it's frustrating.

And it stops me playing alts. Wouldn't be a problem either except classes now are extremely dull the majority of them. Playing BM hunter for even two weeks made me want to end it all.

>>387306105
>>387306152
I legitimately don't know how anyone but RPers could stay subbed at this point, aside Mythic people in a guild with people they enjoy playing with, which is apparently rare.

>>387319965

They 'fixed' the AP grind now basically. At max AK you can unlock the new traits before you've even opened up Suramar.

They lost me by holding ToS on a leash for 11 weeks. By the 7th my group stopped playing and got burned out, I haven't even gotten curve from a pug and Argus drops in like a month or something

>>387306152
You escaped from escapism?

>>387319965
i'd agree with you, except that Concordence of Legionfall is your AP dump. It's not intended to be maxed out. Once you hit the first investment the grind is over, as you get minimal returns from investing into it more than once.

Any autism pushing you to get 50/50 rank in it is extremely misplaced as it's virtually impossible to hit that mark unless you literally do nothing but grind AP 24/7 for the next three years.

>>387319965
>And it stops me playing alts.
except for the fact that once you hit AK40 on one character you can buy the book that grants automatic AK40 to your alts, which make hitting all your non-Concordance traits super easy. You can probably do it in a day or so of half assed grinding on a fresh 110 alt.

At this point the people who still complain about the AP grind are either turbo autists or they stopped playing a month into the expansion but still come around to shit talk the game for no good reason.

I played the fuck out of Legion from launch until the end of January when the nighthold roughly came out, we were starting to progress on heroic when I thought to myself "I've been averaging about 8 hours a day on this shit" Decided to quit, and here I am travelling around Europe for the past 2 months.

>>387306105
>abilities and classes were good in MoP
>"no this cannot stand, we know better, that's why we're going to fuck it all up"

Yeah no, fuck off

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Discuss

I really REALLY wanna play League but I can't. I just can't. It's so fucking bad.

>>387322075
I stopped playing the game shortly afterwards. Stuck on my main due to a lack of players willing to do Mythic dungeon pugs, and since alts had twice the grind, I felt that it was pointless to continue playing.

Holinka leaving is a good sign, but he should have been fired a week after WoD launched.

>>387322075
from the number of people still complaining about the AP grind, it's just proving him right.

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>>387319915
Should I run with this?

>>387322905

AP grind is literally same shit as talents, just lots of tiny +x% buffs which they said they hated.

Except with talents you got done farming them once you hit max lvl and you could easily swap between specs. AP grind only starts at max level and you're fucked if you wanna play more than one spec or play alts.

>>387317346
You're thinking of the forum poster who whined about tracer's victory pose. Sylvanas was metzen's daughter's doing.

>>387317087

It does make sense though. The way they went about it was lazy and it looks bad but it makes sense. She's paranoid of dying again since she's run out of 1UPs, so naturally she doesn't run around in a bikini anymore.

>>387306105
why WOW is for kids and and eve is for adults

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>>387322937
only if you also make a worgen with the appropriate name too

>>387322937
One thing about WoW and lewd names/association. The moment you kill someone in PVP, or the other side sees your name in the loss screen, you are getting reported.

I've made some insane named characters in the past, and everything went fine, until I entered battlegrounds. An hour later, I would receive a name change email.

>>387323465

Worgen are hideous but maybe they'll get new models with the next expansion.

>>387323638
Really? I mean, it's just an artists name. I had a character called hornyfister with two mogged spiked boxing gloves wearing pink leather and nothin ever happened to him.

>>387323708
I started playing a decade ago, on RP-PVE servers when I started WoW.

WoW has always been a weird game when it comes to rules. People would spam the exact same URLs for gold selling services, yet they would never get word filtered...through multiple expansions.

Me and my friends pretty much all came back for legion after ignoring warlords. We quit one month after launch. One fucking month. No other expansion lost our interest that fast. Even MoP kept us for 2.

>>387324259
>subbed after all this time
>think back to how we first started capping, seeing what our tier sets in NH would look like and having to wait 3 times as long as others for the third relic slot
>being intimidated by mythic+ and taking a bunch of weeks to work our way up to a weekly 10

I miss it.

>>387306105
>Ion Hazzikostas
what the fuck is this name

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>>387323895

Ah well, it's just a name change. It'll be funny. And if it's anything more serious, maybe I could do with a ban. Then I'll be free

>>387318526
fucking this, your company doesn't have to pander to neckbeards

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>>387319580
The problem with the AP grind is they can't balance it right.
It sucked to max it out pre 7.2 because it was so significant for your damage to have all the traits in your artifact but actually finishing it felt like a relief because you could slow down on doing fucking all content like a madman, which of course Blizzard thinks is bad because then we play less. So what do they do instead, they completely redo the artifact tree and the final trait is a dump trait that feels completely worthless because you'll barely notice the effects of it because each additional rank is so minimal and that it's designed to not be maxed in the first place so now rather than feeling relieved at maxing it (old style) you just feel apathy for the AP grind.

Titanforge is fine for everyone except mythic raiders, what's the point of mythic gear if it's easier and more efficient to get that level of gear from rng. Had Titanforging always capped out at mythic baseline; 880 during EN, 900 during NH and 930 during ToS it would have been completely fine.

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>>387322075
Discuss

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>>387306105
When they start doing some good fucking armours, They have literally no excuse.

>>387325534
It's just the same rng double relic thing they dropped implimenting in 7.2 isn't it?

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>>387306213
too bad they don't have the stomach for a good pvp storyline when kul tiras finally appears.

>>387325648

>it'll probably be a quest hub
>some ''sub capitol'' like the dragonmaw stronghold for horde in cata
>they wont give alliance kul'tiras ruled by jaina while it becomes anduin + varian in pandaria 2.0
>horde won't get undermine or something similar
>they wont go the extra mile and give us a huge neutral hub as well

>>387325648
Remember the last time a humanitarian aid fleet from Kul Tiras utterly destroyed the Horde? You have two factions and one is thousands of times larger than the other. Any PVP conflict should end with the Horde destroyed. At this point the Horde farting in the wrong direction should end with the Horde destroyed.

>>387325648

Kul'Tiras will be the new Suramar. Replace demon occupation with Old God cult. It's WoW innsmouth

>>387325932
this desu. I wish they just put Thrall back on the throne at the end of MoP instead of this vol'jin nonsense. might as well have gone back to the good old days

>>387326113
Sounds awesome

Can not NOT puke from this graphic anymore.

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>>387309665
>there are frogposters

>Towelliee playing the same dungeon everyday, how???

How can one not be bored of this shit after a year? I got bored after a week.

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>>387306105
Because I got tired of Blizzard treating an MMO like it's a Facebook game with the inclusion of Garrisons in Draenor and class halls in Legion, as well as the god awful decision of making high level current content the only focus and ignoring everything else in the game.

That's why recently I've been playing the trial for FFXIV and honestly I haven't had this much fun in an MMO in such a long time. It feels so much more engaging to play and actually have THINGS TO DO compared to current WoW. Even the smallest of details thats put into FFXIV makes me appreciate the surroundings so much I don't even mind leveling so slowly and being forced to rush to experience current content.

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>he still pays the goy fee just to afk in the city and do garrison quests

you've been doing this for the past 4 years, fucking stop. Anyone with a brain quit during cata

>>387326534
mental illness

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>>387326229
>Thrall leading again
I can't let you do that Go'El

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>>387326687

But Legion has almost too much content and I barely even touch the order hall missions.

>>387326687
>current year
>paying real money for WoW
kek

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>>387326687

>quitting before the undisputed GOAT expansion, MoP before we lost based Greg and his team for Ion Halitosis and his D3 rejects

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>>387326376
indeed.

>>387325932
yep, but even "minor" defeats the horde fancry babies will cry out loud, if you kill their soldiers they'd call you a racist murderor because the right thing to do was to listne to the poor old misunderstood horde

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>imagine an alliance quests to attack horde navy or what's left of it
damm, now I want to raid horde ships..

>>387327372

>4 hours

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I played on release and I realized every fucking WoW boss boils down to don't stand here or there. Why can't Blizzard make good boss fights like From Software? Blizzard uses the same boss mechanics from Vanilla for every raid they done literally every boss does the same boring shit mechanics they only change in colour. WHY are Blizzcuck OK with this?

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>>387323465
I wanna fuck that cake

>>387328771
What else do you want anon? You want some jump rope mechanic that needs the whole raid to time a jump?

What mechanics would make any fight interesting?

>>387329018
>What mechanics would make any fight interesting?
I'm not a game designer mate but the problem lies within the WoW engine which is dogshit and the only fight mechanic you ever have is don't stand here.

>>387328771
Post your mythic achievements

>>387328771
post better alternative

>inb4 from suftware
>muh hard souls
the boss fights are even worse, you just need to memorize attack patterns, so much for skill requirement

>>387329776
>memorize attack patterns
>this is not skill
t.blizzcucks who still has problems with don't stand in the fire mechanics after 7 years playing WoW

Call me when Blizz stops shitting on Monks

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>>387306152

This but except WoD did that for me, not Legion. I think Legion is decent.

I actually think that Legion is the best WoW expansion.

And yeah, I have played since Vanilla.

>>387314574
Man they sure fucked the continuity with that one.

> Here have a green weapon that is better than your blue/purple to quest with until you find something better from killing the strong bosses of the land
> Here have a green weapon that is better than your blue/purple to quest with until you find something better from killing the strong bosses of the land
> Here have a green weapon that is better than your blue/purple to quest with until you find something better from killing the strong bosses of the land
> Here have a legendary weapon belonging to the strongest historical hero, strengthen it using your own power, and use it to defeat the evil
> Here have a green weapon that is better than your legendary to quest with until you find something better from killing the strong bosses of the land

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>>387330565
"Oops we left our lore weapons on Argus and can never return better take this stick"

>>387306152
first post best post. it's amazing how blizzard has so much money and so much staff yet they crank out less interesting content than f2p mmos and even shoestring budget mmos with a skeleton crew like FFXIV.

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>>387331175
Man WoW looks ugly at this angle

>>387330026
Let's look at the current tier, none of the bosses are centered around "don't stay here" mechanics

Goroth
>Whole raid has to coordinate to decide which spikes to break and which to keep in the spot, patterns vary from pull to pull

Demonic Inquisition
>Raid has to coordinate entering into the other realm to avoid being overrun by adds, while ensuring nobody reaches 100 energy

Harjatan
>Have to minimize stacks on everyone, kiting and interrupting is essential

Sisters of the Moon
>Have to coordinate groups changing sides of the moon in order to not blow up the whole group

Desolate Host
>Coordinate living and spirit realms to remove shields from adds, and to keep the room clear for both sides

Mistress Sassz'ine
>Divide groups on the spot to soak Hydra Shots, people with fish have to avoid absolutely all damage to meet the dps checks

Maiden
>Have to coordinate people clearing orbs very quick and have to assign people to soak every orb lane (12 in total), changing every pull

Avatar
>Extremely movement intensive for tanks, soakers, and need very strict timings for soaking the purple beam, and then soaking and moving in p2

KJ
>Too many things to summarize, timing dps on adds, timing dispels, moving with the add debuff, moving for singularities, 2nd intermission, kiting the orb in the last phase...

Yeah, all bosses are the absolute same, it's obvious you've played this game a lot :)

>>387328771
It's a fucking MMO. What do you expect? 25 players fighting a large boss plus tens of mobs is harsh on any engine. Soulsborne bosses work because it's one player vs one or two bosses, you don't have fifty spells flying around from 25 players every two seconds. If WoW bosses were more about dodging fast attacks than it would be less avoiding aoe fire and more praying to your internet/server that you don't get hit by something you clearly dodged. Bosses are really good by MMO standards if that's anything. Every role has something they have to manage and avoid.

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>>387331241
Flying mounts was a mistake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gca_alIfxAs

>>387306105
I am but my altaholish is making me want to die.

>>387331251
This. For something as old as WoW it really puts other MMO's to shame when it comes to raid bosses. Sure they aren't the most visually interesting like FFIXV but they way more mechanically intensive . Atleast for an MMO.

>>387330565
Gameplay =/= lore
Do you think that Garrosh literally took 30000 stabs in the back from 5 rogues?
Or on the topic of artifacts, do you think that rubbing a sweaty handkerchief on your weapon somehow make it 40 million times more powerful, provided you've had a guy read enough books for you?

>>387331581
Destiny has way better boss mechanics and boss fights than WoW.

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>>387331581
The thing that makes WoW good is the game just feels good to play. A lot of other MMOs like XIV and Rift really felt bad when it comes to overall movement.

>>387331732
(You)

>>387329018
>You want some jump rope mechanic that needs the whole raid to time a jump?

That was already a thing in Cataclysm dungeons.

>>387306152
See you in the Old Gods expact m8

>>387331732
Destiny at most has 6 players. It's uncomparable to how clustered WoW raids get.

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>tfw WC4 at Blizzcon this year

You ready, /v/?

>>387331865
>more retards means more complex mechanics
t.blizzcuck

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>>387306213

I'm almost exactly the same except I subbed July 28th I haven't played since early WoD....I manage to get to level 108 but there is so much grindy ass boring as fuck shit quests I just can't take anymore and I don't see how I use to enjoy WoW questing. Also having areas like Highmountain and Stormheim without having immediate access to flying is the dumbest shit ever.

Also for some reason coming back at this point in Legion just seems so overwhelming it isn't even worth trying to get caught back up...pic related

>>387332182
I never implied that in my post you illiterate fucking moron. Less players means it's less harsh on the engine and server. Which in turn means mechanics and visuals are less limited.

>>387332013
Here's hoping they'll be making a WoW2 based around the lore of WC4, like they made WoW based around WC3.
WoW needs some sort of big reset button to fix all this lore twisty bendy they've been doing over the course of 600 expansions.

Legion was terrible and made me lose interest in a couple of months.

>>387330026
some other guy already responded to you but i've got to add, you've got to be literally retarded to think DS bosses are hard or think that memorizing patterns which can boil down to brute-forcing is hard.

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>>387332268
WoW 2 should literally just be a remaster of WoW. With more focus on what made questing and the general leveling experience better in Vanilla, and the quality endgame shit like raids of current WoW.
Just remove RDF/LFR/LFD and Heirlooms. People wouldn't hate leveling alts so much if the zones aside from Elywnn/Durotar actually had players in them. You know like a fucking MMO should have

>>387332367
harder than anything WoW has to offer for sure.

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>>387332254
There's also the fact that Destiny had a brand new engine and WoW is still running on the WC3 engine

>>387332528
I guess that's why current WoW raid bosses take days and weeks to down and DS games are finished on release day.

>>387306105
Played for a month, got to Legion's endgame and it was stupid fucking Korean grind shit with the timegates and RNG

>>387332412
> People wouldn't hate leveling alts so much if the zones aside from Elywnn/Durotar actually had players in them.

Personally I would hate leveling just as much. Doing the same questline for the umpteenth time is not going to be fun just because I have a different person with me this time.
They'd need to invent some sort of dynamic quest system that changes constantly, perhaps depending on current lore changes, so that every time I go to a particular place to level an alt I have a different experience, then it would be fun.

>>387332412
That would be the ideal, and just to make sure people would buy it add some cosmetic bonuses if you have an existing wow account bound to your b.net.

>>387332638
because you play with other retards like yourself and 90% of the bosses are gear checks with don't stand in fire mechanics.

What mechanics does DS have that WoW doesn't have exactly?

>>387332956
SUPER FAST REACTIVE DODGING!!!!

>>387332990
TERA had that. Aion had that.
Didn't make it any less of a shit experience.

>>387332956
actual gameplay unlike stand there and klick 1-8

>>387333058
Yeah instead it's press b to dodge attack and press right click to attack.

>>387332956
DS as in Dark Souls? they are completely different games if you mean Dark Souls.

>>387332876
Where are the stand in fire mechanics here?
Give some specific examples from the fights instead of generalizing a whole fucking games content. Fucking moron
>>387331251

>>387333084
Yes this is more gameplay than WoW has you forget parry, time attacks, strong attacks and more in WoW you press your rota down like a ape.

>>387333139
He's referring to the moron in the thread comparing a single player action game to a MMORPG.

>>387332412

LFR/LFD is fine in my opinion you don't want to "gate" players, just don't make the bonus so fucking ridiculous that it's more beneficial to LFD/LFR sitting in town over doing this while questing.

And have something that benefits you from leveling alts similar to Garrisons, instead of having 50 Garrisons over 1 account have 1 Garrison across all characters in that account promote fucking alt leveling, when the alts reach max level they benefit you and become one of the end goals (adding an extra building in your Land, or fishing while not playing the character).

but it's blizzard you give them an inch and the will fucking wreck the game in no time flat.

>>387333250
It's /v/, almost every retard compared every game in existence to DS and how every game could be better if it was more like DS.

>>387333308
>DS and how every game could be better if it was more like DS.
Well thats true mate.

>>387332412
>comfy vanilla levelling with early-mid mop mop/cata raiding
would pay hundreds of bongland pounds for, only totfw/ds/soo where shit in 2 expansions raid wise the rest where 8/10 or better

>>387333229
>parry,
Completely useless outside of pvp and when it's actually useful completely breaks fights. AKA Gwyn, Abyss Watchers
>time attacks
When? Give some examples. Most fights in DS are quite literally dodge the big cone attack and then respond with a right click/trigger. Rinse and repeat.
>strong attacks
Why is this relevant enough to even mention? It's literally just a stronger version of your normal attack, except this time it's slower.

>>387306152
Fuckin this.
Thank you Ian, for finally releasing me from ever wanting to play this fucking game again.


Unless it's legacy servers for Vanilla/TBC/Wrath