I just lost my first and best captain who sailed in a merchant

>>387303476
its a bad game.

>>387303476
Maybe's Rival iz best girl and the zee iz unforgiving. Get a new captain and do things correctly this time faggot

>>387303708
i don't have the will to move on

>>387303857
Killing yourself usually sorts that out

>>387304227
i offered a wound to the stone bitch and she gave me an artifact instead of fuel

>>387303476
I remember how I lost my first captain. We've been outta fuel and food with no way to reaching safe harbor. So I decided to use wind's blessing. It teleported the ship...to terrifying island on south east part of the map. Quite literally end of the world. There I made some more sacrifices and was teleported to north east, city of dragons or smth. I managed to buy food and fuel and sailed to London. What eventually killed on the way back me was insanity. See, that was the only parameter I didn't bother to decrease.
Shit, I need to replay it.

>>387305071
The pain of loss will crush your soul.

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After losing about three captains, and having to restart so much progress, I downloaded a trainer

I use it to purchase my corvette back, and enough resources to get going, and then Im back to normal.

Its not enough to replace all the stories you have to redo, but it makes things a LOT less stressful. I mainly play the game for the environment and story, and Im not trying to re-read the same story 5-6 times over.

We're getting sunless skies at the end of the month. I'm fucking hyped.

>>387306470
At least dying in that game won't reset the world.

>>387303551

it really is, good writing but absolutely terrible fedex simulator gameplay

Did anyone else help give life to the snow child and fail to save him?

>>387303476
This game needed better fucking directions.

>>387307451
are you saying you don't know where to go or the people who made it don't know what to do with it?

>>387306743
I agree. I really wanted to like it too. Needed a speed up time option.

>>387304352
>Really, really need some fuel.
>Oh, a sacrifice? Here, have a diamond.
Thanks, Stone.

>>387305071
Salt a best god. He expects you to work for your successes, but he still gives you the opportunity and hope of succeeding.

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>>387306470
>took time off for birthday
>have a few exceptional stories as well
Shits looking great.

>>387306470
>>387307741
Damn, it's almost out already?
...I should probably fill out my backer survey then, huh.

What are usually your first upgrades? I go straight for the steel steel corvette, then for the monster engine, and then I upgrade weapons.

>>387303476
The permadeath mechanic doesn't work well for book-likes where you have so much identical story stuff to do every new captain. That plus very, very slow speed makes this game bad.

Sunless Sea, just like Fallen London, is a game with a fantastic set of stories and really well written world, hampered with really tedious gameplay and crummy design choices. Here's hoping Sunless Skies will finally get things right.

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>>387308698
Kinda like drakengard.

>>387303476
>Save in every port and in different slots before any stupid decision. Learn how to manage resources and think twice before acting. The game is well designed, you are just a crappy sailor.

>>387306017
This do much. It's a shit game but the stories are great. I just wander from port to port exploring and reading the stories without worrying about all the artificial difficulty bullshit

>>387303476
What's the matter goyim? You don't want to spend another 40 hours getting a merchant ship on a new character doing the same quests over and over again while crawling at a snail's pace and reading overly flowery writing? You some kinda shitlord, is that it?

>>387306017
I did this, but I'm not a pleb so I didn't use a trainer.
Really no reason to have such an absurd grind Everytime.

>>387306017
I played through the entire game on the edge of my seat because I kept expecting some fuck huge Cthulu monster or shit like that eye from popping up if I fucked up and sailed too far into the unknown.

Instead all I got were rabid blue parrots I shot with a flak cannon.

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>>387308071
>What are usually your first upgrades?
Whenever I'm starting from scratch I first upgrade to a better deck weapon (a Hellthrasher if I can afford it, a Denunciation if not), then save up to upgrade to the Corvette, and only then pick up a better engine and forward weapon. Provided I haven't unlocked the Serpentine in the meantime (which I usually haven't)

>>387308825
my engines are too horrible to outrun swarms of super bats

>>387308820
In a way, yes.

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What am I in for?

>>387309181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXeGHcF9-RY

>>387309181
More Zee adventures! The crab is fun.

>>387309363
Perfect

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>>387309430
Also churches should always be thought of as a place of safety.

>game going well, have all my high tier shit
>come out of a long journey under the zee, meet with the fucking mountain
>how bad could it be
>literally lose all my sanity as she is one hit from death and mutiny instantly kicks in

fuking hell
haven't played since
i wish the game had more ways to make big cash besides smuggling sunlight for hours, rest of the time I'm just really slowly making money but nothing insane besides quests.

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>>387309181
[Faint skittering intensifies]

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He's got some nice toys for you.

>>387309753
Can't believe that bastard left me behind to care for our snow child. He knows I don't have any money but he hands him off to me of all people.

>>387309803
I didnt know where to bring him and he slowly melted. Goddamn wish there was some hint to save him.

>>387309845
The iron republic, make sure to keep some of that coral santy gives you or buy some. If only I hadn't sold all of mine my little Loki would still be alive.

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>>387303476
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>>387309845
There is a way to save your frozen jizz child. It's pretty obtuse though, and requires some semi-rare to rare materials.

Downloading it now. Really needed a SHIT game to wait my life and time on that wasnt a mmo. Thanks OP, you piece of horse shit.

>>387309934
Why does the sun drive neath dwellers crazy?

>>387310056
Go veteran for your background. Iron bonus + early game cook is a pretty great thing to have.

>>387310056
>four
>seeds

>>387310102
It's pretty complicated. The lore of the universe of Fallen London is big and quite interesting to loser lore nerds like me

It involves stars being literal gods, eldritch monsters, bending reality backwards and fucking it like a bitch, and a sad one-sided romance, between a giant space crab and the Sun, if I remember it right.

It's best if you experience it yourself. Or you can get it spoiled for you. Your fucking choice mate

>>387310269
isn't it more of a conch than a crab

>>387309845
Iron Republic -> heart ingot -> Irem
Read the quest next time.

>>387310375
It's an eldritch space messenger for a bunch of reality-warping asshole stars. It can be whatever it wants.

But yeah, either conch, crab, squid or varying mixtures of similar creatures. Hard to describe really.
It's best to just describe it as a living shopping mall with a thirst for love stories

>>387310153
Thanks for the tip brother.

>>387310102
Suns are evil, artificial suns are evil. They think you shouldn't exist.

>>387310102
>Why does the sun drive neath dwellers crazy?
Mad spoilers. As >>387310269 said, the lore of the Sunless Sea/Fallen London universe is really interesting and great if you're into lore, so it's probably best for you to find out for yourself. We can explain if you'd like clarification on something, though.
Short answer? Neath-dwellers are illegal.
If you're wondering why the Dawn Machine drives people insane, it's because it hates everyone.

I'd want to experience the fallen london lore but the game is awfull to play and it'd take months of farming to get anywhere

Is it possible to BECOME AS GODS by attaining immortality?

>>387311023

kind of
there's a hidden questline that you can only finish after several playthroughs that is the closest thing to that

>>387311064
Holy shit, really? I don't have to have a soul to do I?

>>387309545
Sunlight Smuggling got nerfed ages ago, anon, now if you overdo it it makes you go insane and immolate yourself.
For a while the best and easiest way of making money has been through quests and hunting Lorn-flukes at the southeastern end of the map and Dawn-flukes under the Zee for their delicious, delicious cores.

>>387310690
>Suns are evil
t. revolutionary scum

Is the game really as bad as everyone says?

>>387311106

Not as far as I know, I don't think being souless does much.
It's a VERY long quest that requires very high attribute scores and a lot of items. It's not really "hidden" but the requirements are, just recruit the carnelian exile and speak to her if you want to try it.

>>387311202
no, its just grindy

>>387311146

the nerf doesn't matter if you have the lowest tier of living quarters. You can just sleep all that burning yearning away for a pitance.

>>387311234
like don't starve levels of grind or worse?

>>387311202
Ironman will make you die like a bitch to giant crabs and sharks that you cannot outrun.

>>387311202
Depends how you handle really slow games. I love it since it's part of the atmosphere. Sort of similar to Pathologic

>>387311202

its slow, very slow, and a bit frustrating because it'll never ever hold your hand, but it has a lot of fascinating content if you like reading and exotic characters and locations

>>387311293
uh, haven't played that, it'll take several playthroughs of the same shit even without dying if you want to get close to what would be considered finishing the game

>>387311318

crabs and sharks are fine, just turn off your light, the fucking flying swarms in the south tho ? good fucking luck

anyone playing the zubmariner pack?

Does an iron clad will actually do anything better than a regular will?

>>387311654

there's only one kind of will anon

>>387308698
>Fallen London
One-time purchase with all stories and reduced grind/time gating bullshit NEVER

>>387309934
>The Machine depicted as being raised above zee level
Triggered

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>>387312012
Except it is? You can sail under it in Zubmariner.

So has anyone here actually completed the Carnelian exile quest in a legit way?

>>387312076

what do you mean legit way ?

>>387312072
The sun rises and sets, and you can't zail under it outside of the Zub. It's very unclear, but the two orbiting engines or whatever they are are the only part that aren't at all submerged if I remember.

>>387312129
I mean without a trainer.

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>>387311273
>You can just sleep all that burning yearning away for a pittance.
You know, I never thought of that. It's been so long since I haven't had a townhouse to call my own. I maintain that hunting would be a more efficient way of making money, though, since it involves less back and forth zailing and doesn't need as much preparation work - you just need to be able to reliable handle a Lorn-fluke, so a corvette or well-armed cutter.

Still, everyone should rise and give themselves to the Sun once in their lives.

>>387311654
There's only one type of will, the iron-clad kind. The advantage it gives you over a regular Legacy (where you make your selection of what to give your next Captain at the end of the game) is that it allows you to pass down your lodgings and any Heirlooms you've made, in addition to the Legacy/ies you otherwise get. If you can be bothered you can use heirlooms to give your next captain some extra money. I never can and use it just for the lodgings, myself.

>>387312076
It's not really that difficult. The grind for the Dread Surmise is a bit tedious without Zubmariner but the only hard part is willingly sacrificing almost everything you could possibly pass to your next Captain

>>387312076
It's easy as fuck, the skill check that kills you if you fail is bullshit though
It also has best song during the ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXm9gYaeGwE&index=10&list=PLJwYC3yCHjKsqDQkLKb1yPQ96OX9PBYg6

Who is Mr. Eaten?

>>387312401
A dead Master's angry ghost

>>387312401

Mr. Candle

>>387311874
>One-time purchase with all stories and reduced grind/time gating bullshit NEVER
It's a shame, but I can understand why Failbetter wouldn't go for it - they probably think it'd be hugely popular and they'd lose out on money for Fate purchases and subscriptions.
I'd appreciate an option that matched up the number of cards you can hold more closely with the amount of actions you get, though. I usually end up with a bunch of extra actions at the end of the day.
The Last Constable best girl.

>>387312296
>It also has best song during the ending
Great taste, but I respectfully disagree.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qdCkN-lIh8

>>387312296
>easy as fuck
>all that searing enigma farming
>all that skill farming for Frostfound
Way too tedious.

Did anything of relevance happen in Fallen London during the past few months?
I was planning to spoil Mr.Eatens end but after rushing it to be able to get a tattoo of his name during an event and finding out that the option just tells you "lol you can't tattoo that" made me lose my interest

>>387312419
>>387312438
The fact they cancelled that storyline is the reason I unsubbed from Fallen London. I wanted to grind that story out and quit playing after my husk of a character discovered the world's darkest secrets and I can't do that anymore.

>>387312570
Except it's finished now

>>387312593
No? Fucking really? Is it finished and good or is it finished for the sake of getting attention?

>>387312450

are they even still making money from fallen london, honestly ? I doubt new blood is getting into the game, making it a real game would probably suck in a lot of new players. I don't think the economical arguement makes sense.

its much more likely that they don't have any spare dev teams lying around and that they'd rather work on something new that is more likely to get attention than a remake of something old, that the old fans probably wouldn't care much for.

>>387312526
All three endings to SMEN have been spoiled for a long time now, you just have to go to the Fallen London subreddit and politely ask them for the pictures

I've only read Who Is Salt, though. It was some really stupid shit.

>>387312454
Searing Enigmas aren't monstrously hard to find, since you can buy them with enough Echoes and once you have enough you can continually trade them to farm more.

>>387312526
>Did anything of relevance happen in Fallen London during the past few months?
There was an election, but all the candidates were berks or people I didn't care about. None as qt as Sinning Jenny.
That's a shame, anon, I've been burnt-out since the Feast of the Rose myself and barely played. At least now I don't have to worry about struggling for that tattoo.
Were you HATE or GRIEVE?

>>387312763

>not voting for Feducci.

Feducci is one of the coolest niggas around.

I'm just waiting for the Nemesis main story to finish and then I'm done.

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dat cheek kiss tho

>>387313101
>Giving the sphinxstone to the emotional jew

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Any excuse to post this again

So does this game delete your save if you die or something? Why do people here treat game-over like the end of a playthrough?

>>387313683
So he goes crazy and jams himself into your forehead?

>>387312661
>are they even still making money from fallen london, honestly ?
I'm not sure they would be making a lot, but presumably they're bringing in enough money through subscriptions and Fate/exceptional story purchases (I've got a subscription, personally).They might find they have enough new players through the publicity of Sunless Sea and now Skies to justify it.

>its much more likely that they don't have any spare dev teams lying around and that they'd rather work on something new that is more likely to get attention than a remake of something old, that the old fans probably wouldn't care much for.
I think it's a combination of this and how difficult it would be, both to justify to long-time players who've already bought into the current system and moneywise. I think the split between the current FL writers and working on Sunless Sea, now Sunless Skies, suits them fine with Mr Eaten finished. As far as Fallen London itself is concerned they seem to be concentrating on going through and making mechanical changes at the minute - like shifting the faction system from Connected to Favours/Renown.

>>387313806
Its a roguelite. Dying means you have to start over unless you play with manual saves. But you don't lose everything. You get to pass on items and other stuff you acquired.

>>387313976
>Favours/Renown
Goddamn it's such a shitty system

>>387312907
>Feducci is one of the coolest niggas around.
I'm not very far into the game at all, so I haven't met him yet. He's a duellist or something, right? It's cool, though, I was sick and missed the entire election so I didn't end up voting for anyone.

I'm having a lot of trouble deciding on an Ambition, actually - they all seem interesting and I can't decide what to pick for my first/main character.

>>387313101
>>387313350
>Play Sunless Sea first, meet the Sequencer
>Start playing Fallen London
>One of the random flavour texts for an Airs of London change describes two bright-eyed people driving past you on a carriage
Absolutely terrifying.
That said, I always choose to help Penstock, since he seemed like a cool guy.

>>387314116
I know they were going for more clarity with where you stood with the factions/gains and losses, but it's just not implemented well at all.
Especially since as far as I know you can't drop Renown once it's raised, so if you wanted one of the faction gifts or needed it for a specific purpose but wanted to lose your affiliation afterwards you're fucked.

>>387314431
I'm more annoyed by the godawful grind and the shitty rewards. Connected might have been borderline useless but it was better than Renown by a country mile

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idk how to make money other than coffee runs to the surface and churning/burning guys from london and outside, which I know I can't do forever

I heard something about trading a certain item to the pirate guys? Contained sunlight or some shit? Been a while since I played, but I don't think you can do that forever since the light etc etc

>>387313683
>the liberation of the night

Do not tell me its cannon that the only thing keeping all the laws in check is actually going to die and that the anarchist fuckboys are actually going to be able to kill the Sun, because thats the worst end possible, we arent even at the 7th city and Candles hasn't done anything, yet.

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>>387314710
The announcement for Sunless Skies was basically "the Liberation happened and the stars are dying so now Londoners can live in space"

did not know sunless sea was set in an already established universe

is sunless sea better than the original?

>>387314861
So, the only law now is gravity and the neaths immortality is permanent, with the surface becoming just as batshit as the zee below.

By Candles, that sounds like its fucking awfull and the potential for bullshit has skyrocketed. Are we now in the 6th city as of Sunless Skies? Because I really want my fucking nuclear its happening moment when we reach the 7th.

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>>387314681
Have you tried just being immensely wealthy? That's what I do. Being poor is a state of mind, you know.

>>387315247
DELET THIS

>>387314006
But the quests and stories you've completed get reset?

>>387315013
If the Sun is dead, the Bazaar probably died of sorrow or killed itself. There wouldn't be a 6th or 7th City.

Has anyone fulfilled the immortality ambition?

>>387315461
Yes

>>387315423
I dont see why it would die of sorrow, considering it gets handed so many tragic love stories, if the Sun is dead, the bazaar still is a courier, it still has other judgements to serve and even when they would be gone, its a free agent, it has no reason to kill itself or die of sorrow as it holds no allegiance to any Judgements, it merely wanted to get enough tragic love stories that the Sun wouldnt kill itself over rejection.

>>387315579
how was it?

>>387314681
Early on you can get a good start by making money from quests, especially the First Curator's - some of the items are very easy to find, and they award you Captivating Treasures. You can also make good money by fulfilling the Merchant Venturer's more straightforward requests, but it's chancier as he might request something that's very difficult to find or must be bought, cutting out your profit. An anon mentioned earlier in the thread that if you leave your lodgings at their most basic quality you can sleep away Yearning, Burning very cheaply; so you can use that to continue smuggling sunlight.

I find the easiest way of making money long-term is hunting Lorn-flukes (and Dawn-flukes if you have Zubmariner). Once you're upgraded enough to reliably handle one (a Cutter or Corvette with decent engines should do it) they pose little threat to a careful Captain as long as you manage your terror, and their cores are delicious. They spawn in the southeastern end of the map, so you can sacrifice fuel+supplies for great terror reduction at Kingeater's Castle and as long as you have at least one Zee-story when you're done you can take the shortcut back to London or Irem.

>>387314710
>>387315013
>>387315423
It's not intended to be canon, right? Or at least not more canon than anything else; I thought Skies was intended to be a vision of a possible future. Like the Destinies.

>>387315736
The Bazaar loves the Sun. And it's committed enough crimes that it's slated for execution. The Sun dying would be the end of the Bazaar either way.

>>387315906
It's pretty good. It's more story orientated than the other ambitions, there's several different choices you can make and there's technically three endings to it, although the choice is only given at the very last storylet.

>>387312763
I was hate
I might get to finishing SMEN after Sunless Skies comes out

>>387316827
Can you actually reach immortality or are you cucked by someone else?

>>387317040
Yes but the game ends there whatever choice you make

>>387316727
Wait what, I though the bazaar was a mensager and was delivering a mensage of "I dont love you back" from other judgements, hence him coming to earth to collect tragic love stories so when it did come to deliver the "no I dont love you back" letter, the sun wouldn't do a hero.

Where did you learn the bazaar loved the sun anon?

>>387303476
You probably bought a better light, and engine. Which uses more fuel.

>>387314569
It was pretty stupid how you could go from a legend with a particular faction to barely known, just because some chucklefucks grinded like 600+ levels of connected and utterly screwed the conversion rate.

>>387317631
>people buy lamps
What for?

>>387318086
small bonus to mirrors

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Ah, sheeeeet

Sunless sea has exactly the same problem as a house of many doors : all these exotic locations, and then once you arrive there, you actually can't do shit most of the time cause you don't have the one or two quests that actually use this location for anything other than checking the news.

Only very few places actually allow you to do cool stuff the first time you visit.

They fixed that in zubmariner, which was cool, but none of the new locations felt very connected to the central themes of the lore and world so it felt a bit too removed from the rest of the game. Still enjoyable.

>>387311293
I would say end-game Darkest Dungeon levels of grinding

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Reminder that Wistful Deviless is best waifu
>he gave his soul to fucking monkey niggers

>>387318317
Praise Salt!

>>387318857
A shame she didn't accept my proposal. You can give your soul to other people instead of her?

>>387319224
You can give your soul to the Empire of Hands

>>387319224
Monkeys pay for it. Or they can steal it.

>>387319293
What do you get out of that? With the Deviless you at least get a cute description of her eyeing it like a cat.

>>387319387
https://sunlesssea.gamepedia.com/The_Wildweald_Court#The_Chandler_of_Souls

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>>387318857
>not giving your soul to the Dawn Machine

>>387314861
wait, it was? I thought the Liberation is literally all light gone, like 99% except some weird dim flowers and shit
>>387316827
I actually reloaded a save after I realized that letting the Voracious Diplomat join me wouldn't be a good idea, not that it matters in game, but no way I'm letting them win