>Guessed a coin flip right >Beat the game Wow, definitely

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>>387272759
>playing indie "games"

>>387272759
Still a great game but it had a hell of reputation to follow after two of the greatest VNs ever

>>387273478
>ZTD
>a great game
Which timeline is this?

>>387272759
Yeah but WHERE IS SECOND CARLOS HUH?

>>387274963
In my bedroom.

>>387273478
VLR was just so whack with how many different ways the timelines bled into each other. The fragments in ZTD were an interesting idea, though some of the different endings just seemed over the top for the sake of it.

>>387272759
Where do you get this game for $12?

>>387272759
I thought u cant get it right the first time

>>387273478
>two of the greatest VNs ever
you could maybe make an argument for 999 but VLR has loads of flaws

>>387275217
On a PSN golden week sale for Vita

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I miss the threads from when this game was new.

>>387275348
It's probably rng like the rest of the luck based choices but you get a different ending on the third try

>>387275402
>999 was my first Uchi game the post
999 is good, but the plot holes and shitty puzzles make it inferior to VLR.

I had an Amazon gift card, so I only paid about $5 for ZTD.
It was so FUCKING TERRIBLE HOLY SHIT IT WASN'T EVEN WORTH $5

>>387275635
I sold my vita and games for like £20-£30 each before they all came to pc

>>387272759
999 was fun and VLR was a nice ride too. ZTD was trash.

>plot holes and shitty puzzles make it inferior to VLR
VLR has it's plot holes too. What made 999 and VLR fun was how there was purpose to the stories. ZTD had very little purpose and whatever it did have was a rehash of 999 and VLR.

>>387275751
plot holes + good puzzles > plot holes + shitty puzzles >>> plot holes + no puzzles
it's not rocket surgery, anon.

>>387275543
Yeah like VLR doesn't have plot holes out the fucking ass.

>Radical-6 randomly getting more intense whenever the plot needs it
>Sigma not noticing his eye
>Sigma not noticing his voice
>Sigma not noticing his hair
>Dio not taking the Axelavir with him despite knowing that he was infected with Radical-6
>Phi and Sigma conveniently not realizing that they were on the moon and just assuming it was a desert
>The game just bad ends at multiple points where it would have made sense to continue going, with an especially good example being the one time Alice kills herself and the route just ends there with Sigma jumping out
>Lying to the player by refusing to show Sigma in the warehouse floor group shot

Don't you fucking dare pretend that VLR doesn't have issues. 999 absolutely does as well, but it's far more consistent.

>>387275890
>>387275864
Both are a mess, but VLR is the better game.

>>387275987
If you want to consider just the puzzles then VLR is better. If you want to consider the entire work then there's absolutely no argument that 999 is more cohesive and well thought out.

>>387276136
The navigation/replayability system is much better too.
Frankly, the only thing 999 has over VLR is the atmosphere, and that's entirely subjective.

>>387276371
I might be the only person who preferred VLR's atmosphere. 999 tried to be too in-your-face spooky, with the creaking doors and overall creepy environment.

VLR was a bit more plain and normal which made things creepy in it's own way. You're in this seemingly normal warehouse as you learn about the spreading of Radical-6.

>>387276371
999 has a more focused story that doesn't dangle a million plot threads in front of you and promises to resolve them in the next game. Also, while VLR may play better its story and presentation suffers from pandering to their non-existent Japanese audience.

>>387277053
>VLR is bad because its sequel failed to deliver
Nah.
>VLR may play better its story and presentation suffers from pandering to their non-existent Japanese audience.
Okay, now you are just shitposting.

>>387276136
I disagree, VLR's ending was much more comprehensive and thought-out. 999's true ending was basically power of friendship conquers all.

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>>387275052
Back off!
He's mine!

The story wasn't good, but I liked the escape rooms. I also liked the Quondam Monitors track as well.

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999 is the only one I cared for. I appreciate the fact that VLR stepped up the puzzle game because of how baby mode 999 was, but it was too much. There became a point where I just wanted to move on with the story and looked up a walkthrough. IIRC it was the bartending room after 3 before it and I got an incomplete ending.
3D renders were a mistake.
Voice Acting was a mistake.
Most twists didn't leave much impact. AB voting results got me more than anything else like June being old lady, you being Zero, K being your clone, ect.
The major thing it did right was being able to jump to any point in time.

>>387277250
>>VLR is bad because its sequel failed to deliver
Learn to read. I never said VLR is bad, just that its story is less focused.
>>pandering to their non-existent Japanese audience.
>Kotaro Uchikoshi: After 999 released our marketing research told us that people who didn’t buy it were turned off because it “seemed too scary.” We discussed it internally and decided that the sequel should be tamer.
That's why you have shit like Zero Jr , pandering to the DR crowd.
>Okay, now you are just shitposting.
Right back at you.

Is ZTD worth playing?

>>387277884
it's certainly not worth buying

>>387275486
>Sigma's shirt says 12 inches

>>387277884
I had fun, though I'd still wait for a sale

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>>387277949
I thought he was said to have 18inches.

>>387278154
That why it's says 18in in the fourth panel.

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Is Remember 11 worth playing? I played for 2-3 hours a few years ago but had to stop because of lack of free time and now I never feel like going back into it.

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>>387278234
It just keeps growing.
Just what I expect from an alpha like him.

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>>387278326
yeah

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>>387272759
>Get to the Monty Hall part with the lockers
>Change the locker
>Die

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>>387278326
yes
watch out for this kid though he's a damn brat

>>387279102
>>387278326
R11 was great, but I don't like how little it explains. I've gotten every ending and I still don't understand shit.

>>387278882
I like how they kept it random just to fuck with the player.

>>387278882
You made the right call, but it isn't 100% right? Just a higher chance.

>>387279187
>he didn't get all the tips
>he didn't read the infinity series timeline
>he didn't autistically devote himself to hours of speculation

>>387278882
Got it right my first time and then had to go back and lose it on purpose.

>>387275348
>I thought u cant get it right the first time
I did. The game even shows you for a second how it landed.

>>387279250
>>he didn't read the infinity series timeline
Does it connect to the other games? I've played E17, but I didn't finish N7.

>>387279419
It encompasses all of them. Not finishing Never7 isn't the biggest deal, but parts of Never7 would apply to the series as a whole in some ways. You can find it on TLwiki along with the tips, but any remaining questions are going to come down to analysis or discussion (in these threads or elsewhere).

Don't lie to me, /v/. You used a walkthrough at least once during the games.

>>387280296
The laser light puzzle

>>387280296
I played the leaked .cia and finished the game before the official release.

>>387280529
What the fuck dude. There are so few possibilities for that one.

>>387280296
Not really. Playing old adventure point and click games and VNs with the shitty look command made get used to being stuck in a place for long periods of time.

>>387280296
VLR has a bunch of bullshit puzzles so yes, had to use one multiple times
999 I forgot about the safe so I had to look that up for the true ending but the puzzles weren't bad.
ZTD was pretty fucking easy so didn't have to use one, not that I could because I played it on launch.

>>387280296
I looked up a guide for getting all endings in 999, because I only got knifed and axed to death.

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>>387280668
>nintendo's shitty service let people play ZTD before release
>nintendo's shitty service let people play Sonic Mania before release
Why can't japan into online

>>387280717
I couldnt be bothered to think any more after ten minutes of not getting it

I did the alien room without a guide though

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Did anyone else find a lot of the puzzles in VLR hard? I know I was younger back then but I was and still am shit at maths and puzzle solving.

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>>387280296
Yes.
In 999 at the final puzzle, in my defense that was the first time I played Sudoku, so more than anything I looked up how to play.

>>387280296
I used a walkthrough for ZTD, not for any of the rooms, but to figure out how to unlock a few fragments. The big one I couldn't figure out was when Eric is asking who killed Mira. I had no clue I had to run down the clock on that without saying anything, though it was kind of funny that they had a prepared response, complete with voice acting, for if you accused the dog.

>>387280296
I did in ZTD for that therapy room or whatever it was called. Changed colors around like 100 times but couldn't find one of the clues.

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>>387280296
I did in VLR and I'll openly admit it, but if you had to do it in 999 you're an idiot.
>Operating room
>Have to get the plastic cadavers
>grab a calculator and measure out the individual weights of each part
>realize I'm playing 999
>swap everything but the heart
>it works

>Torture room
>Start flipping switches and taking notes on what changes and what doesn't when I flip something
>realize I'm playing 999
>set all of them on the left to 2 and on the right to 1
>it works

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Are we in a timeline where God has forsaken us?

>>387281724
we're in a timeline where uchikoshi fucked everything up despite having the skeleton of a masterwork in his hands

>>387277884
wait for a sale at least lol

>>387282959
If only he hadn't been so pushy despite the low budget, ZTD would've ended up looking a lot better.

>>387272836
It's not an indie game.

>>387277884
Yes. Wait for sale.
Worth at least a playthrough.

>>387279250
>he wasted all this time only to find out later that Uchi is nothing but a hack
I'm sorry.

>>387282959
>There exists a timeline where ZTD used the original script and was a perfect 10/10
Fuck

>>387281603

VLR didn't have any hard puzzles, either.

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>>387283213
>he doesn't know that nakazawa was more responsible for remember11 than uchikoshi was

also the quality of a previous work is not impacted by the quality of later works

>>387280296
I used an ending guide for 999 because it took fucking hours of skipping to get to the end of each route.

>>387283159
If he hadn't been a fucking idiot who wanted to make it a movie to appeal to retards that don't like to read we would have been golden.

>>387283378
Sorry, but I can't consider R11 anything more than a happy accident now.
I bet Uchi's cat crawled onto the keyboard.and typed half of the script.

>>387283575
No, Nakazawa did that. I just told you.

>>387283616
The guy that's doing even worse than Uchi? I doubt it.
I'd rather go with the cat theory.

>>387283858
>he didn't appreciate I/O's complexity
>he didn't play Root Double

Granted this witch investigation thing he's producing does not seem interesting in the slightest but Nakazawa is a far superior writer in basically all regards except building up to a big tweest.

>>387283951
>he didn't appreciate I/O's complexity
I sure has hell didn't.
It was so boring that I couldn't force myself to 'play' it for more than a couple of hours, and that was only because I was wondering if the sister character suffered from DID or if it was just bad writing.
I never found out

Not even Ever17 was that boring.

>he didn't play Root Double
You are right, I/O was more than enough for me.

>>387283951
>Root Double
Different Anon, but I played the first route and was really underwhelmed. The tropes are getting really stale by this point.
>9 persons trapped inside a facility for 9 hours
>telekinesis
>amnesia
Combine that with characters acting retarded and shit like
>flashbacks to flashbacks inside flashbacks
and I'll stop wasting my time with the rest of the game.

>>387275402
VLR is better than 999 though. 999 has loads of flaws too

>>387284454
>>387284727
>being brainlets

>>387284812
>not reading the post chain

>>387281724
We're in the timeline where Delta had to kill 6 million jews in order to stop the radical terrorist.

>>387275348
You can't get it wrong the first time.

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This is the timeline you chose /v/

>>387272759
Hahahahaha
This is the first time anyone's ever made this joke! How funny!

>>387280296
The only time I ever looked anything up in the series was the gold file solution for the Infirmary in VLR

Like what the FUCK

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>>387284837
>>being brainlets
So, how many hours does it take for Root Double to get good? It certainly did do anything interesting after 10 hours. Instead I got stupid arguments about there could be no terrorist in the facility even though they just found pic related.

>>387285596
After is good the entire way through and if you think otherwise you are probably on drugs. Before slows down a bit and has some questionable parts, but everything after that is reasonably solid overall.

>>387283378
Where is the source on this; that's always said even on other sites yet there's no interview or anything saying he did most of the work. Just that for some reason uchikoshi used a pseudonym for r11, which would imply he didn't want his name connected to it.

>>387285596
Man that's some bad art.
Now I really don't feet like playing it.

>>387275110
Ditto. 999 is one of the best VN's. VLR is great, but it's just about as flawed as ZTD.
>VRL too long and over explains it's plot. probably about 10 hours to long.
>ZTD leaves too much ambiguity and is all over about like 3 to 5 hours to short.
>VLR has no ending
>ZTD has a rushed and confusing ending
>VLR has entirely useless characters and some of the worst characters in the franchise in terms of depth. Some characters literally only servicing as a plot point. (quark fundamentally alice but she can do math I guess, but her inclusion makes clover pretty useless as she only summarizes the last game.) Also, a lot of characters hold little significance in comparison to 999 where everyone ultimately had a purpose being there, and were pretty closely connected (ultimately), In comparison, K and Luna can feel underwhelming and left mostly as servicing a twist. They are interesting dynamics to the story (specifically how the act in the AB games), but I'm specifically referring to their reveal in terms of who they are. (That last one is a pretty controversial statement, but I don't have time to really defend or fully define this.)
>ZTD has a mixed bag of characters, D team being written the best, Q team the most potential (but ultimately underdeveloped), and C team is just horrible for how re written Junpei and Akane are, almost completely unrecognizable as characters (Carlos is best though).
I think it's still dumb to dismiss the entirety of ZTD for having a stupid ending, but no one mentioning that VLR's entire ending hinged on, 'play the next game', and there by didn't have a conclusive ending for it's own story.

>>387285821
That information comes straight from one of Nakazawa's business partners. I wouldn't be saying it if I wasn't absolutely sure about it.

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Explain the point of Eric and Sean even being there?
Protip: You Can't

>>387286173
Someone has to use the shotgun

>>387285661
After isn't good
>starts with the protag being amnesic
>introduces telekinesis through some heavy handed exposition dump
>has the group arguing about a potential terrorist even though they already established potential sabotage and found bodies filled with bullet holes
>dismiss it because security is so tight and they would have met said terrorist in the 5 hours they've been trapped
>even though they have been searching for another group of survivors and only ever saw one of them for a short amount of time
>they find a huge supply of supposed Anti-Radiation medicine and instead of safeguarding it, they leave it in some room and put a fucking sign on the door
>their supply gets stolen (who would have thunk), MC is accused, who flashbacks to a flashback he had 5 minutes earlier and holds his head and starts screaming because he remembered something
Look, the setup is okay, but it doesn't feel like they actually want to survive and everyone acts like stupid anime character. Then after 9 hours finally something happens and route ends. Now I'm supposed to play through Before and people tell me the flashback shit gets worse and the story becomes even slower. I don't care how good your twist if the game takes 20+ hours to get to the point.

>>387286173
Because when he mindhacked himself to find out how to set up the game they were there so he had to bring them in to repeat the events he saw in the future :^) really straps your boots huh

>>387286831
>he
*delta

>>387286710
>I don't care how good your twist if the game takes 20+ hours to get to the point.
there's your problem, it isn't written for twists

>>387286057
Please provide this information? Don't even care if it's in nip

>>387286173
Eric as an unhinged red herring for mindhacking without raising unneeded suspicion. Also probably to irk Mira enough to "loosen up".
Sean because of his guilt complex for a lost friend and the fact he no longer believed in a soul, and wanted to "free" Sean's with a method he devised.

>>387287141
It's not exactly out there in any official capacity. You're just going to have to take it on faith that a very significant amount of Remember11 was written and conceived by Nakazawa, and that Uchikoshi was not nearly as involved as he was in Ever17 or Never7. He does take credit for the ending though. I'm not lying, but I understand if you don't want to believe it based on my word alone.

>>387286909
Replace twist with whatever the game is trying to do.

>>387277884
Unironically do it for the memes, I would normally never say that but ZTD was a perfect disaster in this regard. At this point you might as well wait for a sale though since you missed most of the threads.

>>387280296
Only in VLR, and only twice there. Once to get through the room that kept crashing my system (I think it was the PEC room?) because I was tired of dealing with it at that point, and once to get past some color-related puzzle that I don't remember because I'm colorblind and either couldn't or didn't want to brute force that one for some reason.

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>>387283951
>>387284454
>>387284727
>>387284837
>>387285596
>>387285661
I enjoyed Root Double. It's by no means perfect and has its cliches but it's entertaining to see a group of people in a shitty situation try to make it out and what the preceding events were.

Say what you want but Root Double was a contained story vs the bullshit we got in the Zero Escape series.

>when you're so stupid you don't even know what telekinesis is
Maybe you should try playing something more appropriate for you, maybe Fate?

Did anyone here read Uchi's Eve New Generation and 12riven?

>>387289334
Root Double is, like, 70% rehash of everything Nakazawa's written before. It does have some good stuff, but the amount of copypasta from previous Nakazawa games, as well as blatant filler (and I'm not talking about Route B specifically), is just staggering.

Say what you will, but I/O was Nakazawa's Magnum Opus in very much the same way Ever17 was Uchikoshi's MO. Root Double is pretty much Nakazawa's (counterpart to) 999+VLR (VLR contains pretty much the only thing in ZEs, that wasn't featured in Infinities - Luna's story arc - and the whole VN's "autistic" art-direction actually works to support it).

>>387291528
>VLR contains pretty much the only thing in ZEs, that wasn't featured in Infinities - Luna's story arc

Sora.

>>387291590
Sora's arc wasn't MGS2-ian.

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>>387291810
what the fuck is that even supposed to mean

>>387291979
That the whole point of that arc is that VLR is a deliberate recreation of 999 with a completely different underlying motif behind it.

>>387292302
Oh. You could have just said you were retarded.

I don't know who made my dick harder, Phi or Clover

>>387292425
Maybe, just maybe, it's not me, who's retarded.

>>387292845
your comma usage indicates otherwise

>>387292940
The lack of capitalization and punctuation doesn't really help your case.

>>387292940
Says Mr. No Dot Lowercase, I presume?

>>387293274
>>387293339
periods are for girls

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So ztd was wasted potential in general but which character was the BIGGEST waste of potential?
Eric should have been Brother

>>387294263
I thought that was going to happen the entire game and then no he was just a retard who had no reason to be there

FUCK

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Why did he kill the dog?

>>387295848
he wanted to give everyone the gift of gab

>>387275486
>>387294975

This thread is probably gonna sink to the bottom of page 10. Post more ZTD memes please.

I already got spoiled for 999, is it still worth playing?

>>387296179
yeah it's pretty good

also, always approach things with the idea that the spoilers you received are fake

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>people unironically believe that it is better to have the ZTD we got than having no trash at all

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Look at what you've done to him with your ruthless ztd hate; now he's resorted to self harm.

>>387296239
Normally i do but for media over 5 years old its tough.

>>387296278

Is Uchi fucking retarded?

>>387296278

I thought that was a blurred out cock in the thumbnail.

>>387296595
What do you think?

>>387296665
same
why did i click that?

>>387272759
it's free nigga.

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So is ZTD better than Danganronpa 3?

>>387297510
haven't played DRV3, but not a chance

if you mean the DR3 anime then still no

>>387297510
both are shit.
Though don't know why you would compared an anime to a show.
danganronpav3 is amazing though.

>>387297736
>>387297884
Definitely referring to DRv3.

Was wondering if it was as good as the previous two, and felt this was as good a place as any to ask since it's supposed to be released soon, if I recall correctly.

>>387298057
pretty sure it won't top dr2, but maybe it'll be retarded enough to be enjoyable

Is there anyway to speed up the text? Its so damn slow its killing me.

>>387298057
It's amazing the last two chapters top danganronpa2 by a long shot.
The rest is pretty bad though other than the first chapter.

>>387298057
Also you might wanna know that people call v3 as 53. it helps stop any misunderstandings with the anime being called 3.

>>387295848
So you wouldn't be sad that you left him behind.

>>387275348
>>387275536
No, you can't get it WRONG on the first try. NONE of the game is RNG, everything is planned out. Even the one late game that makes itself LOOK like RNG is planned to work itself out quickly.

>>387297510
I unironically believe that even the worst point of the series of Zero Escape is leagues better than DR at its best. I wouldn't let anyone I personally know pay any amount of money to the DR team.

>>387280296
I used one quite a bit. I had trouble with some puzzle involving a plant and a zoom feature, where you need to zoom in and out and see numbers and colors and shit, and you need to fill in the blanks with correct numbers. I didn't know what the fuck they were looking for and just googled that shit.

Anyone play Root Double Extend something something whatever bullshit? It was in a recent humble bundle and made by the same people, yeah? I liked this series and was wondering if buying a key for Root Double would be worth it.

>>387299480
it's made by one of the people who worked with uchikoshi in the past, it has no relation to zero escape whatsoever except being similar in some regards

>>387285984
>VLR is great, but it's just about as flawed as ZTD
Not true at all. VLR is sound from a basic standpoint.

VLR has a cliffhanger, but that's not a flaw because it DOES tell it's full story outside of that. VLR fully takes advantage of it's medium and the twists are all foreshadowed and well implemented into the game, even if people argue that characters calling you old multiple times during the game doesn't foreshadow you being old.

ZTD had a shit ending that came out of nowhere, it's foreshadowing was ALL "this is a shadow in the corner that couldn't possibly hint at the ending, but if you know the ending you know what the shadow means!" bullshit, and "MIND HACC" wasn't properly introduced, it was just an excuse to move the plot. There was a SINGLE decent piece of foreshadowing, the scene where Q team mourns that they have to leave Gab behind because he's chained up, which actually DOES forshadow the ending, but just barely and only if you're paying attention to the camera angles, which were shitty.

Compare it to 999 and VLR, which took 100% advantage of the 2-screen VN format for their twists, and over-explained how everything worked (which is FAR better than under-explaining everything). ZTD had a shitty cinematic format and tried to take advantage of it, but failed. You can complain if you don't like the story of VLR that much, but as a game it's built great and all the parts work extremely well, unlike ZTD which is shit functionally.

>>387294263
Obviously Eric, who had no reason to exist. Mira should have had more to her twist, but really she was a waste too.

>>387275543
>plot holes
999 doesn't really have glaring plot holes unless viewed in the context of VLR, unlike VLR which has some very obvious holes without even thinking very hard.

>>387272759
Game was too short compared to VLR. Also that stupid ending.

>>387272759
I forgot, was the coin flip random or we would never get it right in the first play? I remember getting wrong the first time and thought it was just like that so I continue playing till the end before choosing the other option after the end.

Guys is Umineko worth playing? People told me it was super long. Is it true?

>>387300486
It is super long and worth playing

>>387297510
999>DR2>=VLR>DR1>DRv3>>>ZTD

It's easier to give Danganronpa a pass because it's meant to be sillier than the Zero Escape series

>>387299957
The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Sigma not seeing his reflection the first time around in the garden, or in any other shiny surface.

>>387300486
Probably the most fun a vn can get. 80+ hours, longer than war and peace. Spoilers will ruin it, moreso than other story heavy games.

Whoa, just finished this yesterday. Give memes please

>>387300624
Without spoiling, is it true that Dangan 3 is shit? Like what exactly did they do wrong this time when the other 2 games are a hit even thought the whole thing was kind if stupid too. If it was that shit, guess I might just skip it.

>>387300691
Does Umineko have choices? Or is it like Higurashi and is pretty much just a book with pictures?

>>387280296
>999
That final seppuku puzzle. I'm shit at it and I just want to see the ending.
>VLR
Those final white room puzzles. The puzzles in this game are much harder than before.
>ZTD
I didnt use walkthrough to solve them puzzles but I look up once because I'm stuck and theres no new path.

>>387275890
I thought it was a desert too. I guess I was blinded by 999's ending

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>>387300657
Now that I think about it this was much worse in a previous title.

There was standing water in LEMU all the time why didn't Hokuto see his reflection sooner?

>>387300774
It was alright until the last trial, it had a very anti-climatic ending. The characters were a bit weaker than in the first and second games but not terrible. I think it's still worth picking up, maybe not full price though.

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>>387300805
It's not your fault, they make it look like a desert despite the moon looking very different. It's cheating.

>>387300896
Because lol uchikoshi

Please use the proper version of that gif by the way

>>387300779
The latter.

>>387280296

>999
Not at all
>VLR
[Spoiler]All the fucking time[/spoiler]
>ZTD
Only when I missed something really damn obvious.

>>387277878
>pandering to DR crowd
Why are you so insecure? But while Monokuma is the best part of DR, Zero Jr. is just shit.

>>387300774
I found the cases and class trials themselves great. Every chapter has something that makes someone butthurt, though. I think Kohacka is trying too hard to out-hack his boyfriend, and he's still stealing shit.

>>387297510
ZTD is unironically better than DR3

>>387281004
Same. For sudoku it seems to be extremely easy one, but being the very first for me it had some impact.

>>387300961
Fucking drop. Like what is the point if it was completely linear and all we do is just pressing x or whatever?

>>387301279
Enjoying the story

it's okay to be a casual baby, you don't need to enjoy that kind of thing

>>387281167
These decisions were actually my favorite part of ZTD, you get so many responses for writing all the shit.

>>387301279
Cause it's a book with sound. Hence a sound novel.

>>387301306
But I heard the story was just some supernatural killing. How is that interesting?

>>387297510
VLR=999=DR2>DR1>ZTD

>>387301498
But where is the DR 3? Not even worth mentioning?

>>387287165
>guilt complex
oh boy
>complex
HERE IT IS

C O M P L E X
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It's amazing how ZTD looks worse than 999 and VLR. It's like someone's first attempt at animation.

>>387296254
thin timeline son ur the meme of the nation

>>387272759
The best part about this game was pushing the big blue button

>>387302679
No. The big part of the game was the MINDHAX

>>387300486
It's shit I beat all of it and it was horrible. Plot is actually retarded and told poorly. Pointlessly long. Could easily be 40 hours less. If you still want to read it, watch anime which is pretty similar to the first 4 episodes of the VN, then go straight into episodes 5 to 7. 8 is pointless and horrible. Criminals are very obvious, especially how you view the same crime 8 fucking times.

I must be retarded because i keep getting stuck. The puzzles themselves arent so bad but i have a rough time clicking everything in the room to find what i need.

>>387297736
but DR3 anime is good, in fact, it's way better than the trilogy games.

>>387272759
my biggest problem with this game is that it lacked the contexual flavor of the first two games

i like all the philosphy bs that was in the first two games

this game was just shock factor and not that great twist, dropped plot lines

i feel bad for uchikoshi

he was put in a tough spot for the third game