After playing Grimoire, I'm interested in checking other

>blobbers
kys

>>387230091
no u

>>387229927

>old-school blobbers
>"modern" conveniences like fast-walking, an automap and the ability to place notes on it.

You're fucked. You could get something like Grid cartographer to help map i guess. Or go ask on the codex.

>>387230664
Ok, ignore the "modern" conveniences part. Any recommendations at all?

Wizardry 6 snes version

>>387230828
Why the SNES one?

>>387230868
Because the pc one looks like crap.

If you can stomach that, play the pc version so you can use the same party in 7 and 8

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>>387229927
>blobbers

Oh boy, here we go again.

>>387230815

Sure. In rough order:

Wiz 6-8 trilogy. (6 has a mod for automap, 7 has it kind of inbuilt, 8 is 3d but really fucking good.) Don't play the snes 6 version, your save won't carry over.

Realms of Arkania trilogy ( has iso combat).

Might and Magic World of Xeen.

All generally considered the kings of the turn based blobbers.

>>387231015
Ok

>>387231131
Great, thank you.

>>387229927
If it's gotta be grid based movements, go with Might and Magic 3, 4 and 5 the latter two known as World of Xeen as they combine into one bigger game together. Cartography is in, but you have to learn the skill first.

If movement in a 3D world isn't an issue, then go for Wizardry 8 as well.

>>387231238
Thanks.

>No one ever mentions Wizards and Warriors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKFM_wHZvkg

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Start playing Wizardry.

>>387231301
Is it any good for a beginner?

>>387231302
How does it compare to MM? Especially the combat.

>>387229927
wiz8 with enhancements that speed up the game is by far the best in the genre imo

>>387231301
its bugged slow and tedious
tried play it many times

>>387229927
Go to /vr/ HoMM general and download Might and Magic 3-8

>>387231679
Speaking of /vr/, isn't there a general for Wizardry too?

>>387231493
Is it "ok" to skip the first to part of the trilogy?

>>387229927
/vr/ probably can help you better.

I doubt anybody here plays games.

>>387231652
>slow and tedious
Wrong.

>bugged
Borderline unplayable is more like it.

>>387231775
What general? I can't see a Wizardry question being well-received in the MM thread.

>>387231775
get out of this thread faggot everyone here but you is making recommendations

>>387231729
The only game with a story that isn't self-contained is Wizardry 6, 7 and 8, called The Dark Savant Trilogy.

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Currently playing this one

>>387231131
>Realms of Arkania trilogy

Anyone have an opinion on the remake of the first game? I know the remake was released as a buggy mess, but how is it nowadays?

>>387231813
Maybe my copy was fugged

got it from cover cd in one of the magazines years ago and every time i tried it looked like suffering despite changing to faster computer over time

>>387231912
>the only game
>lists three games
wut

>>387231960
Looks like dunegon of regalis

http://store.steampowered.com/app/409450/The_Fall_of_the_Dungeon_Guardians__Enhanced_Edition/

$5.00 currently.

Looks like bootleg Grimrock with MMO combat.

>>387232185
>MMO combat
That's not a positive.

>>387231729
the story is nothing special, just play whichever games look interesting enough

>>387232113
Poorly worded, but you know what I mean.
Also The Dark Savant trilogy is considered to be the best one, so you can skip the previous ones if you'd rather start with the newer games in the series.

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>>387232163
Since you recognized the art style, I'll give you a straight answer.

This is an older one made by either the same team or just the artist.

The "Z" in the title makes it 10x cooler.

>>387232227
"bootleg" isn't a positive either.

>>387232347
Indeed.

>>387232324
Didnt play this one because i thought other their games are just vn

>>387232012
I had no idea they remade this game, but it looks like it's pretty ugly and buggy.

Does Lands of Lore still hope up? I remember it fondly, but it's been years since I played it. Can't even remember if it had an automap.

On that note, I don't even mind drawing a map in those dungeon crawlers, though what did piss me off is that you never knew where in the dungeon you'd start off, so if you guessed wrong, you'd either have to transfer to a new paper or tape another paper to the edge of the one where you ran out of space.

Eye of the Beholder 1 is excellent. A good variety of party compositions, simple story line, each dungeon level has a unique theme, tons of secrets and some moderately challenging puzzles. EOB 2 is even better, although 3 seems to be universally hated.

As others have mentioned, Wizardry 8 is the best of that series in my opinion (the banter between party members is incredible) and I personally love M&M 6-8.

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>>387232415
Alot of companies don't really make it obvious when their games have actual gameplay. People like me have to investigate and research to find the good ones.

This one uses a skill tree system where you can continue leveling up skills you've already learned or unlock new ones, but it doesn't reveal what the later skills are that you'll unlock until you fulfill the requirements. Each character has a different skill tree. This is the Priest's.

>>387232747
Yes, in fact Lands of Lore is a good entry point if you're new to dungeon crawlers.

>>387232415
Dungeon crusaderz was for other company
i think they broke up and formed new one

>>387232759
>>387232840
OP here, I'll give them a look, thanks.

>>387232747
Regarding manual mapping I'd suggest using a spreadsheet program. While it is nice to have physical maps I find the ease of a spreadsheet program to be too high to pass up. You can then also pass your maps onto someone else should the need arise.

Is there a decent app to help you draw maps while you're playing a vintage dungeon crawler? Something simple that lets me place a line for walls and maybe a few icons or a comment for each box of a grid? Same way as if I were drawing on paper?

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>>387232818
Instead of the typical equip system you see in other games, each of your characters has 1 accessory slot and 3 magic stone slots. Magic stones can give you simple bonuses like increasing your max HP to more interesting ones like adding poison effect to your attack.
You can also upgrade some stones to make the effect stronger.

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>>387231729
It is, just don't play Wiz IV unless you hate yourself.

>>387232818
It was just as you said previous game of the same artist. dc was for kaguya , regalis for sirius few years later

>>387233734
Yeah, I've heard about it.

>>387233561
Either use a paint program with grid function and snap to grid enabled. A spreadsheet program like microsoft excel where you can fill in cells using different colors for different landmarks, or try this program: http://www.zerker.ca/zzone/2010/01/10/dungeon-mapper-0-1-alpha/

I was surprised I couldn't find an offline version of the Etrian Odyssey mapper, I figured somebody would have ported it just for the sake of it.

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>>387233709
Honestly, all-in-all it is a pretty meaty game. If the team were to go back and give it some QoL changes for today's computers, they could definitely release this on Steam if they wanted and earn those weeb-bucks.

>>387229927

Wiz 7 for the closest thing to Grimoire.
Wiz 8 for the "blobber" ever made.
Might and Magic 4 - 7 were all fun too.

>>387233965
I just hope they still get the same funding under this new company to continue making games with the same or better quality. Creating an actual game costs alot more than just your typical VN.

>>387234096
Nope enjoy you shitty sakura crap instead

or rpg maker
trash with hentai scenes


>>387234305
new sirius games look like its gonna be slg only wit6hout rpg

>>387234112
Isles of Terra is better than 4 and 5

>>387234112
Thanks anon.

>>387234402
I just want them to bring one over to Steam so these weeb plebs can experience what they're missing. They can't into finding Japanese games outside of Steam on their own anyway.

>>387234402
>new sirius games look like its gonna be slg only wit6hout rpg
I think it's related to one of their older games. Can you imagine it's been 9 years now since they made DC2 and they're still around to make new games?

Dungeon Master 1-2

or just search them by genre on some sites like Abandonia for old games.

>>387229927
MIGHT AND MAGIC SIX AND SEVEN, PLEB

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>>387234662
Dungeon of Regalias was that artist latest rpg and was out in 2016

i actually got stuck in there somewhere

and didn't bother to finish it

other games arent rpgs but various vn id difffrent setting

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>>387229927

>>387235314
Can't help the feeling that the pic is somewhat incomplete...

>>387235152
>didn't bother to finish it
That's a shame, but it's your game. You play how you want.

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>>387235972
Map were boring as fuck

>>387236592
most dungeon crawler maps are boring if you think about it.

>>387237194
Not knowing jap doesn't help neither

Please, don't call them "Blobbers"

>>387237194
in dc you at least had typical 3d dungeon...

>>387230091
First post best post

>blobbers
I don't get it

>>387241102
It's ok to be retarded.

What do you guys think of the new Bard's Tale?

>>387241361
it will beshit like all inexile games

i am sure about it

>>387235567
It's just a blobber starter pack.

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>>387235314
Fixed.

>>387241195
No it isn't and I still don't get it.

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>>387242056

>>387240998
lurk more newfag

>blobbers
why? the best golden age crpgs are all top down.

play bard's tale, I guess.

>excited to see a dungeon crawler thread on /v/
>it's just memes
You guys are so fucking shit at everything.

>>387232012
The remake is horribad, don't even think about it

>>387242760
What fucking memes? People hate that term as much as people into roguelikes hate when you call roguelites roguelikes.

>>387242981
>roguelites roguelikes
REEEEE