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Anyone have trouble getting into Witcher 3 because of the lame

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Anyone have trouble getting into Witcher 3 because of the
lame combat system? I actually prefer Skyrims first person combat
to W3s. I guess the game's worth it if you can get over it but it's
such a huge part of the game I don't know if I can.
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>>387220483
its not that bad is it? what's your problem with it?
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Yeah me, I love the story and shit but the combat is meh, I think it try's too much and ends up being hollow
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>>387220483
it's half the reason I quit. the other half being a really poorly thought out "open world" which actively discouraged exploration.

can't really say it's better than Skyrim. that game was only marginally fun because stealth archers. if I had to play melee all the time I would've dropped that too.
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>>387220538

I've never really liked the Batman/Asscreed combat in the first place. Oddly enough I thought Black Flag was amazing.

Geralts movement is a bit "too fast" I guess? When he turns
around and runs around and stuff. Also I don't think you can
change the FOV can you? The reason I refunded Just Cause 3, godawful unchangeable FOV.
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I really liked it... it had cool elements added to it through the items you could use and playing as Siri was like getting a blow job in the middle of sex.
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>>387220483
Skyrim babby
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couldnt play this trash for more than 2 hrs. Completely unchallenging shit fest
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>>387220768
you can mod it to change the fov.
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>>387220483
Not only yht lame combat system.
It's also the non-existent level-design, the shitty ennemy variety, the long-ass boring quests (both main and sidequest)...

It was a 3/10 at best.
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I liked the game but the combat is definitely mediocre and if you do lots of sidequests (not even all of them) you almost always end up being overleveled.

So between the balancing and the combat I definitely enjoyed it less than 1 and 2. Although to be fair, I'm not exactly big on open world games so I might be biased.
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>>387220483
Witcher 3 is a garbage game.
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The combat plays more like a poor man Dark Souls than batman/AC

It's not that bad in itself, but the levelling system makes it too easy very quickly and the IA is broken.

If you like atmosphere it's an amazing game, shame they decided to work with ciri this time
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>>387220483
I agree.
I hated TW2 already for its endless rolling and Geralt being a little bitch.

TW1 was the most enjoyable to play, the most immersive and most open-ended title in the series. AKA, the only good game.
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The only thing Witcher 3 and Skyrim have in common is an open world and a fantasy setting. I agree that the combat is pretty meh, but I think that it's still a lot better than Skyrim's
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>>387220685
You really can't compare Skyim and Witcher 3, nobody plays Skyrim for the writing while literally everyone plays the witcher for the writing
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>>387220483
>skyrim combat better than anything
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>>387220483
Witcher 1 had it the best.
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>>387220483
>I actually prefer Skyrims first person combat
the combat sucks, but you're a subhuman
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OP, play on HARD mode + ENEMY SCALING ON !
I am lvl 10 and even a pack of wolves is dangerous now because no monster is bellow my lvl now.
So I get more engaged to use everything, oils, food to heal, etc.

>MUH realism, Y R WOLVES SO TOUGH
Don't give a shit. Makes the game and immersion better.
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>>387224284
W2 has probably the worst UI i've seen in any game. Even Skyrim was better.
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>>387220685
I mean come on dude >>387224915

That's just an unfair comparison
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Neo /v/ in bound
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It's fun on hardest mode where you need to pick your battles and fully prepare for most of them, and be super careful and know the ins and outs of it to win.

But that only lasts for like half the game, then you become OP and win everything anyway
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>>387220483
>getting 20fps with that shit
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>>387220483
>Screenshot from the tutorial area
>Whines he can't get into it when he has not even started the game

So many fucking kids nowadays.
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>>387227731
Didn't realise the combat changed after you got past a certain point in the game.

Fuck off retard.
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>>387220483

The biggest problem with The Witcher 3 is how bland and sterile it's giant cardboard map is.

Soon enough you will realize that there is nothing to interact in the map and that it's there just as space between points A and B.

Sidequests are nothing interesting if you are not lucky to be in that one big sidequest that is actually well written.

The batman vision "follow the red dots" sidequests get really old after the #1,928,192,819,289 one.

At around half way it you will either drop it completely or power through the main story just to finish it.
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>>387227852
How about you fuck off because here's the truth:
1) You judge a combat system before you are even able to get used to it. Tons of people start playing the game thinking it's clumsy, yet at the end of the game say it's alright.
2) You judge a combat system before you even explore it, before you even see what kind of enemies there are designed around it, what kind of skills you can get and so on.

Witcher 3's combat is nothing amazing, but whining about it before you even get through the fucking tutorial basically means you are a baboon with AD/HD and little experience with vidya.
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>>387220483
Why even bother playing the game with the graphics that low?
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>>387228368
Looks old school. I dig it.
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>>387228269
Jokes on you I finished the game and it didn't change one bit.
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The combat system is more fun and more challenging than Skyrim. People who prefer Dark Souls combat have to be trolling too, it's boring shit compared to the one in Witcher 3
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>>387228907
Maybe try playing on hardest difficulty and actually using skill points next time.
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>>387220483
>I actually prefer Skyrims first person combat
is this another b8 thread? no game has worse combat than shitrim
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no the combat is fucking shit and the story is fucking stupid, all over the place, lacks structure point and it's full of plotholes

the only reason to play the game is that it makes a good walking simulator, but it's not even good for that as every 1 minute you're attacked by trash mobs and the music goes from comfy to LAYLAYLE
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>*whistles for magic horse*
>autoruns on road to quest marker
>*toucan sam vision activates*
>"Mhmm....giant slash marks all over the victim....a Drownerâ„¢, gotta be"
>"Come on, Roach"
>*follows nose*
>guys in Drownerâ„¢ costumes appear
>"OY BLOODY 'ELL FUCKING CUNT SHIT FUCK CUNT, IT'S A FUCKIN' WITCHER IT IS! GET "EM"
>"Shit you stink" ALALALALALALALALA *sets guys on fire and they stumble and recover immediately, does a cinematic slash and cuts guys in half"
>"Mhmm....Banditsâ„¢ pretending to be Drownersâ„¢......better tell the village head about this"
>"Come on, Roach"
>*autoruns on road back to village*
>"OY BLOODY FUCK CUNT WITCHAH, WOT ABOUT DA CONTRACT WESE PAIDS YA FOR YA BLOODY FUCKING CUNT?"
>"Just some bastards posing as Drownersâ„¢, here's proof *shows flipper*"
>"OY KURWA, HERE'S YA REWARD DA WHOLE VILLAGE CHIPPED IN"
>"Drowning in Danger" Complete AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>10 crowns received
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>>387229734
But that's boring and in no way avoiding a fundamental issue.
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>>387230019
really fucking good post
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>>387220483
I struggled with the sponginess of the enemies. Even on the easiest difficulty, lots of enemies have more HP than is absolutely necessary.

Here's a protip; developers. If an enemy isn't a boss and takes more than 4-5 hits at the appropriate level and equipment sets, it's too spongy. The same rule applies to your character as long as it isn't built to be a tank, and tanks should only take about double the punishment. Casters should take about half.
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>>387229918
This post was therapeutic for me, hated witcher 3, the second was acceptable gameplaywise
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>>387230546
samefagging isn't good for you, shitposter kun
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combat is pretty unchallenging once you realize it's pretty much a glorified QTE, or if you play with signs you can oneshot 95% of the game's enemies and use igni to 3-shot most of the remaining 5%
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>>387230019

Sadly this is the perfect review of the game.
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>>387230019
Otherwise funny and accurate parody, but no one actually uses autorun. At least I hope not.
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It's a pretty game, but story wise, gameplay wise, videogamey wise, it's shit

it's a game you play when you have nothing better to do, but it's not really entertaining or anything
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>>387229918
Is this image supposed to be showing SJW injections in the game or something?
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>>387230019
>oi we's just a poor farmin village, barely enough food to last us through the winter
>let's talk about my pay
>o...ok
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>>387230019
>this is accurate as all fuck
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>>387220768
Dumbass. Play COD.
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its shit

play the superior game
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>>387220483
>I actually prefer Skyrims first person combat
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the combat's fiiiiiiine
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>>387230156
Except there is no issue. Just because you personally didn't like the game is really inconsequential because plenty of other people did.
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>>387231795
y-yeah, what fucking casuals if they do haha
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>>387235329
Skyrim was basic as fuck but it was never bad, bog standard combat is better then the trash witcher 3 had
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>>387235442
yeah its retarded how everything is so slow but at the same time these cunts have infinite block making the fight a slogfest.
Is there any mod that overhauls combat?
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>>387235442
Goddamn just compare something like Jedi Academy to this fucking garbage
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>>387235520
I never said I didn't like the game. The combat is just lacking and mundane. Trying to make it more difficult for yourself does not make it fun in any way, shape or form.
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>>387235650
Skyrim is better because it's actually fun to explore random places in the world. Fallout 4 is even better at it.

Witcher 3 open world aesthetically and by scale is probably the best open world made. However the gameplay design around it is piss poor, never realizing the potential.

For example if you go anywhere but south when you're dropped in the open world you run into level locked areas...and by the time you're done with the main quest and come back everything is easy. You go into a cave or point of interest and there's no item you can equip or use because the best items in the game are the witcher sets.
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>>387235727
>Jedi academy has good combat
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Should I play The Witcher with Controller or K&M
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>he thinks I'm going to take the opinion of someone who plays on Minecraft mode graphics at 22 FPS seriously

No shit the combat sucks when youre playing it like a slideshow.
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>>387235727
>jedi academy spastically jumping around with zero impact on hits
>good
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>>387220483
>I actually prefer Skyri-
Lmao stopped right there. Fucking idiot.
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>>387229918
>no option to mock any of these people

thats what bothered me, especially that faggot who like florian.
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>>387229103
>boring shit compared to the one in Witcher 3

If you don't use back all the different types of swings you can do it is. Aka if you don't know how to play
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>>387236218
>>387236042
This board is doomed.
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>>387236857
>leaving the bread crumbs on
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just contrary fucks talking to themselves ITT
try playing some good old RPGs and check out their combat systems you cunts
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>>387220483
I just used my console command to help me instakill human mobs, combat is actually ok when going against Monsters.
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>>387236029
>Skyrim is better because it's actually fun to explore random places in the world

No.

Skellige > Skyrim
Velen > Civil War
Novigrad > Every "city" in Skyrim

Every peasant's corpse in Witcher 3 has a story behind it. Every bandit camp and cave in Skyrim's the same.

>>387236837
Not him but the game didn't draw me in for long enough to learn otherwise and since that seems to be pretty much all there is to the game I couldn't be bothered.
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>>387239321
It's understandable but he is right tho. There isn't much to dark souls or TW3 other than combat( unless you count Gwent ) but dark souls pulls off the combat a lot better than the Witcher 3.
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>>387220685

Yeah I have the same feeling about it. It's like 'okay go over here talk to this dude, okay, now go alllllll the way over to these three places and then turn on witcher sense, follow footprints, hack hack dodge until dead and then go alllllll the way back for an inconsequential amount of crowns'.

Fucking horse stops dead, in the most infuriating way, at every fucking bridge/change in height on the map. Going anywhere takes ages. The wilderness is not full of cool stuff and fun to explore.

The game is padded out to all fuck to take an arbitrarily long time to do any quest. Not to mention to dialogue. Every single conversation is twice too long.

And level scaling gear is FUCKING SHIT. Oh cool I explore a really dangerous place and get some sweet witcher gear and and upgrade schematic. Oh cool now I can't wear any of it until I get another 10 fucking levels and it's totally redundant because I can fuck everything up butt naked anyway.
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>>387230457

This shit, too. Fucking questline human enemies just being super tanked up HP versions of all the other shitty spacker human fighters.
Got really lame just hacking the shit out of two or three guys about 30 times before they died.
How about make them actually skilled fighters instead of just pumping their HP up to insane levels?
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>>387240295
>Every single conversation is twice too long.

>press space to skip
>pick the yellow options
Also if you don't care about dialog, then you probably shouldn't be playing a dialog driven game.
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>>387240525
I'm at Kaer Morhen and haven't experienced damage sponge human enemies that take 30 hits to kill yet.

Pro tip: if you press 'I' it takes you to your inventory, where you can equip stronger weapons by right clicking on the weapon that you want. Equipping stronger weapons lets you kill things in less hits. I know, the game does a pretty bad job of showing you how to do this, but I think most people figured it out regardless.
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>>387220768
>Batman/Asscreed combat
wtf are you talking about TW3 combat is nothing like banham combat.

TW£ combat is actually very good, hating it is a meme.
The only real gripe people have ever mentioned is the forced soft lock, which can be remedied by hard locking
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>>387239948
The Witcher has writing and exploration. I thought Souls and Bloodborne may have exploration as well but they're mostly hallways in which you'll die and repeatedly go through the same area so many times that each region quickly loses whatever novelty it had.
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>>387224996
>arkane and bethesda now under the same publisher
>bethesda doesnt ask arkane to fix their lame combat system in elder scrolls game

why tho?
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>>387241992
fucking this
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>>387241657
The only "damage" sponge enemies are golems that are twice your level, and my only problem with them was they can't bleed and I was a cat/light attack/bleed build so it took a while.
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>>387225606
Playing on hard mode...

Ah yes! I will repeat an argument about hard mode in witcher 3 an anon posted weeks earlier.

It's like eating a shitty steak with a plastic knife. It just takes longer to eat.


turn it down to easy and plow through it for the story
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>>387241992
>elder scrolls world with might and magic gameplay
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>>387230019
DELETE THIS
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>>387242247
might and magic is real time blobber, you mean messiah
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>>387235520
Its VERY disturbing if you really believe there is no issue.

Not a good sign for the future of game design.
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The combat is whatever.

I'm just tired of " follow quest marker to win the game " being the entirety of video games.
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>>387236089
its obviously dumbed down for consoles so use a controller.
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>>387230019
best post in the whole thread
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>>387242350
oh you're right, my bad
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>>387241867
>Hating it is a meme

Finished and loved the game but how can you think that? It was literally mash X,X,X, and Y before casting some useless spell.
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>>387242485

Actual genuine RPG exploration is a forgotten thing.

I mean jesus christ did anyone actually play this game with the full HUD on as default? It looks like that joke image from years ago with all the useless clutter on the HUD.

First thing I fucking did with W3 was download a mod specifically to get rid of the fucking HUD and still make the game functional because you can't fucking find your way anywhere without that cunting thing on given that the map takes so long to open.

I long for a game in which you actually have to navigate yourself and explore a gameworld to find things and advance instead of just having a fucking obnoxious HUD covered in blips and blobs dictate your every move.
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>>387230019

I loved the game and I'm still laughing my ass off at how accurate this is.
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>>387230019
keked but I still have 300 hours innit
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>>387242247
dark messiah* bro. try it sometime.
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>>387230019
>AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Can hear it beautifully.
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even on medium the game is kicking my ass.
im stuck on a save point with low health, no healing items and have to go through combat in order to proceed which is fucking impossible.
really dont want to boot the game up again.
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>>387220483
xd
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>hurr i dont have le wizar magic le goblin le EDGY COMBAT STYLE LE EDGY LE COMPLEX LE RPG LE DND HURRR LE FAT NECKBEARD HIW DARE THEY MAKE THE COMBAT SIMPLE AND FUN HURRRRRRR LE WITCHER WEBM HURRRR!!!!

LMAOing at all your lives
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>>387230019
You forgot the obligatory 2 experience points.
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The combat was actually ok on death march on the first few levels, but after that you become op as fuck no matter when you spec into.
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>>387242383
You're right, anon. Opinions that differ from my own are, in fact, very disturbing.
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>>387235442
>heavy attacks
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I don't understand the hate on the witcher 1's combat. It's literally fine. It's not great but it's not awful. You switch stances and make combos. It's decent.
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>>387243160
THE ONLY thing i hate about the witcher 1/2 is how fucking UGLY geralt looks. He looks like a god damn lizardman in the first one
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My main issue with the combat is that it never really evolves. The skill trees barely give you any active skills and that's boring.

Other than that, I think the game really shines when fighting large groups and DLC bosses.
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>>387230019
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>>387243292
Name 5,000 games where the combat "evolves"
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>>387243160

It feels like shit. It's like playing a fucking rhythm game or something.

I mean, the game is great overall, but the combat is truly ass feeling.
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>>387242991
fuck off and take your retarded sentence structure with you
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>>387243361

Halo Combat Evolved times 5000!!!
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>>387243361

I can't even name 5,000 games so you win this argument.
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>>387242916
lmao just spend 1 point in the skill that makes food last 20 minutes. what are you even doing nigga?
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>>387243447
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W3 is a great example of someone that's trying really hard but has no natural talent to speak of.

The Rock Lee of video games basically
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>>387243467
Silly anon. the only winning move was not to play.
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>>387243574
>hurr look at me i have the dlc im so rich
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>>387243604
no really, HURR DURR is not a good argument and makes you like stupid.
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>>387243651

But is succeeded despite all odds so...?
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>>387243361
Any game where a skill tree actually gives you new skills
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>>387243467
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>>387243806

It didn't succeed being a great game, it's certainly good though, just a very dull thing to actually play
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reminder that if you let Geralt's facial hair grow out longer than just stubble then you like gay penis in your butthole
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>>387243794
HURR DURR is a representation of the stupid shit that W3 "muh bad combat" retards say
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>>387243791
Is it really a dlc perk? Sorry poorfag I didn't know that. It looks like sun and stars is in vanilla and it works also.
Also I got the GOTY edition for like $15 from a steam sale.
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>>387232624
the game is very liberal/western despite people screaming "based Poland." They only think it's right wing because everyone in the game is white, and most alt-right people only care about skin color and are basically racist liberals.
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>>387220483
It's pretty much been established that the series is only worth playing on the easiest difficulty for the story because of how bad the combat is.
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>>387244040
Dumb Ciri poster
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>>387244040
Are you gay, anon?
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>>387244040
>mfw i always get a clean shave every single time im in a town
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>>387244082
it's a proven fact shitskins can't do anything right, even liberalism, see: decolonized Africa
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>>387228254
Stole this from the last Witcher 3 thread.

>*whistles for magic horse*
>autoruns on road to quest marker
>*toucan sam vision activates*
>"Mhmm....giant slash marks all over the victim....a Drownerâ„¢, gotta be"
>"Come on, Roach"
>*follows nose*
>guys in Drownerâ„¢ costumes appear
>"OY BLOODY 'ELL FUCKING CUNT SHIT FUCK CUNT, IT'S A FUCKIN' WITCHER IT IS! GET "EM"
>"Shit you stink" ALALALALALALALALA *sets guys on fire and they stumble and recover immediately, does a cinematic slash and cuts guys in half"
>"Mhmm....Banditsâ„¢ pretending to be Drownersâ„¢......better tell the village head about this"
>"Come on, Roach"
>*autoruns on road back to village*
>"OY BLOODY FUCK CUNT WITCHAH, WOT ABOUT DA CONTRACT WESE PAIDS YA FOR YA BLOODY FUCKING CUNT?"
>"Just some bastards posing as Drownersâ„¢, here's proof *shows flipper*"
>"OY KURWA, HERE'S YA REWARD DA WHOLE VILLAGE CHIPPED IN"
>"Drowning in Danger" Complete AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>10 crowns received
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>>387244082
It's not right wing. It's just not in your face hamfisted SJW pandering propaganda.
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>>387244247

not really CDPR's fault that Ciri was written by Andy as the epitome of "Mary Sue"-ism.
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>>387244082
>despite people screaming "based Poland."

Everywhere is liberal compared to the U.S. But especially Europe.
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>>387244317
>>387230019
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>>387244317
Read the thread you absolute faggot.
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>>387244465
But it is CDPR's fault for writing a plot that revolves around her. They proved with W2, HoS and BaW that they make God-tier stories when they do their own thing without relying on some literally-who neckbeard books.
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>roll
>magic attack
>roll
>slice and dice
>roll
>magic attack
>roll
>slice and dice

that's witcher for you
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>>387242662
If you were to play it with a higher difficulty you would need to actually learn to dodge and counterattack
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>>387242662
Welcome to every game ever made
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>>387244671

i have to agree with you, even though (HoS was just a collect-a-thon and BaW main plot was also quite generic).

i think CDPR just wanted to close their witcher saga with the return with one of the most important characters in the whole Universe (considering from book 2 onward the whole story revolves around Ciri)
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>you will never play Witcher 3 for the first time again
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>>387220483
yes op

>Amazingly detailed world
>Tons of content
>SHITTY COMBAT THAT RUINS THE ENTIRE GAME
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It wasn't that bad, come on.
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>>387245385
>HoS was just a collect-a-thon

If you boil it down to its most basic components and completely ignore the themes it presents, sure.
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>>387220483
I feel like playing BotW before TW3 kinda ruined it for me
in botw you're doing your own exploring, finding cool looking spots on the map, getting to vantage points, all with minimal pre-placed map markers or instruction
in TW3 I'm basically doing a glorified checklist, hunting ? markers on the map, with very little stuff outside of that. In the first area (White Orchard?) I found the gryphon's nest before the story told me to find it, and Geralt had nothing to say about it and I couldn't interact with it until the game told me to go there and check it out
the horse AI sucks too
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>>387220483
I'm not a big fan of the TW3 combat, but TESV made me drop the game on multiple tries.
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>>387220483
I like it a lot, reminds me a bit of Soulsborne but with dismemberment and shit
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>>387229918
>>387232624
>>387244082
What doesn't fit, though, is the one image where the guy is basically saying science and religion aren't necessarily in conflict. In my experience, most people who would agree with the quotes in the other images tend to be enthusiastic atheists who believe in the conflict thesis. There are exceptions (I'm one of them), but that's the pattern I've noticed.
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>>387248510
also the animations are fantastic and fluid as hell, every fight feels like a dance of death
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Those fucking villagers deserved it
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>>387243604
Why is *everything* edgy these days?
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>>387248696
>letting a witcher impersonator live
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Reminder its Nintendo fags that hate on this game because they have no taste.

The game is objectively better than Breath of the Wild, if you think otherwise you are just being contrarian.
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>>387249447
>impersonator

he's a legit witcher though
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>>387249607
Still a piece of shit.
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>>387242684
>I long for a game in which you actually have to navigate yourself and explore a gameworld to find things and advance instead of just having a fucking obnoxious HUD covered in blips and blobs dictate your every move.
Morrowind?
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>>387248696
What happens if you choose to kill him? Do you still get that stash stuff?
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>>387248298
Playing a game without content, goals, upgrades, customization, narrative made you hate on a game with all of those and better?

Witcher 3 is less about exploring SOMETIMES sure, but its better than BOTW in almost every other way.

>horse AI sucks
Its quite literally more responsive than BOTW mounts.
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>>387249774
But can you climb? That mountain.
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>>387248510
This is the second post in this thread that compared the witcher's combat to soulsbourne.
Where do you people come up with this? Is this bait?
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>>387249774
but botw has goals, upgrades, customization and narrative without telling you exactly where to go and when to go there
yes, the narrative in botw is much weaker than TW3's but that was a design choice
also
>open map
>find ?
>beeline straight to it
>exploration
I guess you could call that pathfinding or roaming, but it isn't true exploring
Also, I played TW3 for 4 hours the other day and fucking Roach would stop or 'fall off' the road at a fair amount of the corners/bridges, something that has never happened to me in botw
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>>387250319
>riding my horse to the next destination
>see a cart tipped over and destroyed
>see a blood splatter
>"hmm i should check this out"
>activate witcher vision
>follow trail
>takes me to a monster lair
>kill monster
>find corpse with a note on it
>note is from dude's girlfriend telling him to come home
>go to the city and tell girlfriend that her man got killed
>feel feels

This quest wasn't given to me by anybody. There was no question mark, or exclamation mark. I just found it there. Tell me again how there's nothing to discover?
Once you're out of the tutorial world you can just find shit that is linked to other quests without having the quest. You can kill the cursed druid tree before ever having the quest about the crones, and doing it out of sequence like that changes the way the quest progresses.
You can complete most hunts contracts just by stumbling on the monster in the wild and killing it.
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>>387244317
You fucking moron
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i'm having trouble getting out of the Witcher 3
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>>387230019
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Part of being an RPG fan is sometimes you gotta put up with terrible combat to get to the good stuff in the rest of the game
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>>387250226
at the very basics its quite similar, boils down to heavy attacks, light attacks, and dodging
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>>387251641
>Follow Batman-vision to quest to its single pre-determined ending
The game is flawed at its core, at a fundamental design level. You were "feeling feels" because you were presented with a narrative, not because you had any meaningful involvement with the game. You would have had the same reaction having watched the quest on youtube, which is why its fucking bad game design. Games can do more than replicate the experience of having a narrative presented to you, that is not what immerses a player.
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>>387252140
Basics are similar, but that surface-level comparison is where it ends. Souls games do a lot more with those same simple mechanics, there's a fair amount of room for experimentation and builds that play very differently. Witcher's combat falls completely flat and lacks the same level depth after you look past the surface level, you play largely the same way with the same set of shallow tools from hour 10 to 100.
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>>387220483
had the same problem, i refunded the game.
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i don't get this at all. what is wrong with combat???
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>>387230019
Yeah pretty much. The only good parts of the game were the main quest parts from the Baron to the end. The sidequests are all crap.
Hearts of stone was good.
The combat was serviceable until I couldn't stand to control Geralt's fucking clunky ass anymore.
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>>387220483
Its kina meh but it gets better as you get some better skills
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>>387230019
fuck you

you're right though
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>>387252240
>>387252240
It was just a random tertiary quest that you find on the side of the road. The closest thing you get to that in botw is finding an npc fighting a goblin and when you kill the goblin he says thanks.
If you want to talk about bigger quests with different endings based on choices you make, we can talk about the bloody baron quest and how one path leads to his wife turning into a water hag and him hanging himself, while the other results in a village's children being eaten by witches but at leas the baron didn't suicide.
>>
>>387231795
Wait witcher 3 has autorun?
>>
>running
>whistle for Roach
>comes from the exact opposite direction I'm trying to go without fail
>can't catch up to me if I'm running, have to wait for him or turn around to jump on him
>have to fake him out when I whistle to get what I want
what a useless fucking animal
>>
>>387252240

But being a witcher is part detective,you can't just dive in a cave just because you're a superhuman fighting machine
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>>387253125
>him
do americans really think roach was male?
>>
What's up with the formatting of OP's post?
>>
>>387252903
Right, and that quest was still just like every other quest that is also flawed at a fundamental level because it demands little/no critical thinking or problem-solving from the player. You just go from A to B to C and the game presents you with your solution.
>>387253164
Point being you're not doing any of the detecting, the game does it for you.
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>>387253341
do non americans check their computerized horses for genitalia?
I haven't gotten very far in this shit game so idk if geralt mentions it later on
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>>387253641
>shit game
what game do you consider good? just curious
>>
>>387253702
bad rats 2
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>>387252775
Yeah and then your damage and HP numbers get higher.
That's literally all the skills fucking do, bro.
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>>387253702
Not him, but Skyrim was unironically a better game and a better RPG because, despite it still being flaed in many of the same areas for the same reasons, it still allowed the player to actually role-play and didn't pass off a few dialgoue choices as role-playing. Its not a good RPG, before anyone pretends I said it was, its just a better RPG than W3.
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>>387253641
it's just banter m8, english can't into genders
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>>387254109
English can into genders just fine, it just doesn't see the need to give every noun a gender.
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>>387254793
yeah whatever
>>
>>387253527
Please tell me a game that requires critical thinking or problem solving to get to a different narrative outcome that completely changes the arc of the story of the game. I'll wait. No, seriously. I'll wait forever for you to pull something out of your ass. This holy grail standard that you are holding video games to has never been achieved, so why are you holding this game to that standard?
You should probably just stop playing narrative video games. Stop watching movies, reading books, or doing anything with stories in it because by your definition of what is a good narrative, any time a story is told to you it is flawed.
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>>387242662
this>>387245182
you cant just mash a button an kill enemies on death march, even a drowner will 2 shot you.
plus if you want to be a retard and mash 1 button to play a game then that is your own retarded fault.

With 2 sword attacks, a block, parry, dodge, roll, 10 different sign functions an xbow and bombs, with slotable potions the combat is pretty complex, depending on your build.
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>>387253980
How did it not pass off dialog choices as role playing?
The biggest (only) choice you can make in that game is which faction to choose at the beginning, and then it doesn't even matter which one you choose because you do the same quests anyway. How is that role playing?
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>>387245182
>actually learn to dodge and counterattack
What's to learn? the windows are enormous.
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>>387256026
you need to learn that when you see an enemy's name turn red they're about to attack
its a super complex and nuanced read, I wouldn't expect you to understand it
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>>387220483

This game is the most overrated piece of shit in history.

/thread
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>>387256195
What's your favorite game, anon?
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>>387256296
bad rats 2
>>
When /v/ tells you a game is shit there's a very high chance it's gonna be great.
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>>387256195
That would be any Zelda game.
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>>387256765
This. When /v/ says a game is great it's usually boring or mediocre at best. Dragon's Dogma and FNV are two examples.
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>>387256296

Elder Scrolls (Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim)
Dragon Age: Origins (hell loved DA: I too)
Knights of the Old Republic 1 & 2
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>>387220483
>I actually prefer Skyrims first person combat to W3s
>>
The combat would be a complete bore if it weren't for signs. Then it becomes just simply mediocre. It's also poorly balanced. There is no point in trying to engage a difficult enemy multiple levels higher than you because it's going to take you half an hour to kill it. Certain enemies don't have clear indicators for hitting you. Human enemies are practically never challenging.

But honestly, the meat of the game is the story and atmosphere, and those are good enough that I played through it all.
>>
found it fine. Never prevented me from enjoying the game. One of the best games I've ever played desu
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>>387256946

and Fallout 3 and NV
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>tfw will NEVER EVER experience those oh so sweet first few hours of exploring White Orchard for the first time again

Hold me lads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V4tYZHNUY8
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>>387256901

> FNV

> Boring

Fuck out of here, anon
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>>387255749
>despite it still being flawed in many of the same areas for the same reasons

W3 pretends dialogue choices make an RPG, that's all there is to choose. You're always Geralt, you always have the same personality and backstory, the "builds" are laughably shallow and play too similarly, so dialogue is all that's left. Skyrim still has better "builds" and gives the player more freedom to actually role-play outside the scripted story and dialogue.

Again, its not a good RPG, its just a better RPG than W3.
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>>387257310
If only they used those shit tier streamlined casual as fuck rpg elements to actually make a game then skyrim might have been better than TW3.
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>>387257205
>Game is only enjoyable for those first few hours, then the "WOW" factor wears off when you're done being impressed by the pretty graffix and the dull, shallow gameplay takes center stage
Sounds about right.
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>>387257582
Epic bait. You know damn well that the first hours of any game is always the most special.
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>>387257486
Sorry bub, it already is. W3 is all presentation, the actual gameplay is ass. Skyrim is also mostly ass, but again, it at least gives the player more freedom to fuck around and role-play outside the scripted story.
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>>387230019
ayy
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>>387220483
Feel you OP. Combat is a drag and you're forced to use it for literally everything, even in quests where you're supposed to being able to talk out things.
Also monster hunts are lame as fuck
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>>387231795
I'd have used it if I knew it existed
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>>387230019
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>>387257706
And I'm saying they're special in this game for superficial, fleeting reasons.
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>>387257750
You must have forgotten how barren skyrim was before you put in all your titty monster mods.
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>>387230019
a (You) well earned
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>>387230019
Accurate
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>>387259581
Nice deflection. So you're agreeing that its still better than W3? Because you're not making an argument as to why its not.
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>>387226925
fuck off. skyrim has literally the same shitty ui
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combats fine, its the open world that hampers my fun
1 > 2 > 3 story
2 > 3 > 1 gameplay
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>>387260405

you fuck off anon, skyrim is better than this witcher ass, lame fuck bullshit.
>>
I couldn't get into it because of the map. It would lead me the wrong area. So I would just have to look around the whole place because I didn't trust the map. I wonder if only I had this problem
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>>387220483
The combat was one problem, as was the writing and general gameplay and wandering from cutscene to cutscene got old fast.
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