> Still has 12 unit limit > Still has terrible pathfinding

>>387207298

You know people would complain immensely if they did that.

>>387207357
not OP but I was seriously hoping they would at least add the option for these things in settings or something

>>387207406
Why not just play SC2

you paid 15 dollars for a texture pack
think about that for a second

>>387207424
because starcraft 1's campaign is actually good?

>they didn't casualize the game
good

>still, better than sc2

>>387207496
No it isn't. 30 "clear this map of dudes" missions with off-position mineral patches isn't good.

>>387207424
Protoss.

I don't mind because I love OG StarCraft, but I do wish we could at least have the option to have some enhancements, at least for single player. That being said I'm remembering how dumb the story of this game is.

>>387207649
I'm sorry to disappoint but protoss are in SC1 as well.

>>387207651
>dumb story
how so?

>>387207298
If they don't alter the missions and make them more difficult, I'm not buying. There is no reason to if it's literally just a graphical update.

>>387207698
I think he means FUN protoss.

Ever see a "High skill" protoss play in modern SC 2 that actually makes a crowd cheer? No, because all Protos are the same. One flavor of cheese, then deathball.

There is an updated version. It's called Starcraft 2.

>>387207298
>>387207406

This remake is not for you, it's meant for the korean audience, that's the reason they did not change anything
Also certain modern changes like increasing the selection limit could potentially make certain races OP, Blizzard dares not touch the balance of the game

>>387207767
I dunno man. You have to get to a real high level for protoss to be anything other than "ram gateway units down opponent's throat until you win."

But I'm sure /v/ is full of shuttle micro masters that will make me eat my words.

>>387207946
>he doesn't do the scarab shuttle shuffle

Sad!

>>387207298
>>387207406
You know Starcraft 2 still exists, right?

>>387207946
I'm being serious. Platinum+ all the way into Master and tournaments even, all Protoss do one of three things.

Proxybase. If they dont win: tech into Deathball.
Air Rush. If they dont win: tech into Deathball.
DT Rush. If they dont win: convert DTs into Archons and tech into Deathball.

>>387207739

Well for me personally, I always wondered what was Mengsk's reason for leaving Kerrigan to die. It's not like she was being disloyal to him, and even when she questioned his orders she still carried them out anyway. She was more loyal than Raynor. But Mengsk just goes "Lol no fuck her leave my most highly trained and skilled operative to die." It's the catalyst for pretty much everything in Brood War and SC2 and yet it doesn't make sense. Why kill off your most loyal soldier? And even so, if you wanted to get rid of someone who was questioning you, why not send Raynor instead? And Mengsk doesn't even pretend to be regretful to leave her behind.

It didn't make since to me in 1998 and it doesn't make sense now.

>>387208059
>pick up reaver
>oh right let me just do a round of macro
>wtf happened to my shuttle!?!?!?

>>387208101
She just wasn't that important.

>>387208080
Yes, that's correct, most strategies build a lot of units for the lategame. What is your point dude.

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Hmmm.....

>>387207298
You didn't mention main problem: it looks like shit.

>>387208182
jesus fucking christ, sc2 was a mistake

>>387208182
That's fucking cool

>>387207298
The sad part is: If Starcraft had all those new RTS features, it would break the game tremendously.

Any unit selection higher than 12 would favor masses of units instead of singular hard-hitting units. There would be no penalty to building masses of zerglings or masses of marines. The limiting factor right now to prevent that is APM, and even Boxer's APM wasn't unlimited.

Pathfinding, yeah, I can see improving that.

Workers don't automatically start building like in Warcraft 3 because, again, there would be no penalty to just doubling up on workers. Warcraft 3 had a hard limit to how many workers could be gathering from a gold mine at one time, the sweet spot was 5. So building more than that for lumber or gathering was a waste of resources. Meanwhile, Starcraft doesn't have that limit and you can easily have 30 workers to a crystal field.

Queuing buildings would also break the game, because the thing about defenses in Starcraft is that they're absurdly powerful. Compare Starcraft defenses to Warcraft. Starcraft Photon Cannons alone could take on most units in the game, and never miss. If they allowed people to Queue them, you would be playing a tower defense.
Unit Queue limits are for similar reasons, see above.

Basically, they preserved it exactly the way it is because every person who made Starcraft, and therefore knew how to balance it, has long since left. No one knows how to fix something if they were to go and break it by adding in a modern feature, so they instead not to bother with it.

I'm not really defending it, but I see exactly why they didn't bother updating it when any singular change they make could utterly destroy the game.

>>387208324

Do explain nostalgiafag.

>>387208182
I kind of like it better when I couldn't quite tell what the Protoss were.
Putting extra light on them is a mistake.

>>387207298
This game is not for you, it actually takes a bit of skill to play, stick to the dumbed down version.

>>387208182
Are the portraits not animated?

>>387208182
>zeratul

Hell yeah

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>>387208182
>They got rid of the Arbiters little smile
FUCK

>>387208528
They are.
https://youtu.be/vU-_SW0OQc4

So basically it's the same as Aoe 2 HD? How unfortunate

>>387207298
>they didn't casualize it
good,

>>387208681

The key difference being that unlike AoE2 HD, this doesn't hurt my eyes. Seriously that makes my eyes burn.

>>387208642
Glad I'm not the only one who saw that

>>387208470
dude, those new portraits are just plain generic

It's to allow cross game multiplayer.

>>387207298
They seemingly haven't learned anything from the Yooka Laylee clusterfuck.

>>387208642
>that face when you bring all the boys to the yard :3

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>>387207298
its a remaster, not a remake. why not play starcraft mass recall in the sc2 engine if you want better path finding and f2?

>>387208735

They don't look that different to me. I can still tell who is supposed to be who. Face it you are just beating off to nostalgia and hate it because it's new.

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>>387208735
rrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>387208857
>All the protoss are intentionally kept in the shadows to make them seem mysterious and conspiratorial
>Brightly lit portraits everywhere

wish i paid attention to starcraft during the 2010-2011 threads

>>387208926
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>387207767
Indeed. SC2 Protoss is literally oracle -> adepts -> storm -> terran gets nerfed instead.

> Confusing dark with low res and muddy

>>387208851
this man is mostly right, the only ones that are shit are the hero portraits, they need redone and for most of the male chars to have their bone structure reworked to match the original.

>>387208182
They couldn't maintain a modicum of art fidelity, fucking with my childhood with this abortion of an artstyle.

>>387209019

> WAAAH MAH CHILDHOOD!

Now I know you are a nostalgiafag.

>>387209019
Gonna cry about it?

>>387208926
>All the protoss are intentionally kept in the shadows to make them seem mysterious and conspiratorial
the new high templar portrait is just painful to watch

the new art fucking sucks, supply depot looks like a plastic model. In fact all the terran buildings look like toys.

twitch tv / mari0712

IT RUINED MY CHILDHOOD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7eO-HO7GLI

>>387208674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM2YFTVZig8

>Nu-Kerrigan does le epic action point gun at camera instead of pumping a shotgun
>Nu-Raynor with no unibrow
>Nu-Raynor does an angry scowl instead of a playful smile

>>387209742
>>387209202
>>387209129
Nu-blizzard shills.

>>387207357
I would have bought and played it if they did those things.

>>387209746
They totally ruined Jimmy. He looks like a generic as fuck grunt now. I always thought he looked like a bit of a bumbling fool, in way over his head.

>>387207298
I know you're a noob who hasn't played starcraft that much, but those are the exact things that make starcraft so good.

Fuck this outdated piece of shit, Dota killed Starcraft for a reason

>>387210202
Brood War has always been shit and this remaster is just waking people up to that, the only good thing to come from Blizzard's shitty games are Dota and footmen frenzy

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>>387210229

>>387210280

Brood War is quite possibly the greatest, most influental game ever created.

>>387207539
He means the writing

>>387207496
Except the campaign is the one part where SC2 vastly improves over SC1. At least as far as mission design goes.

>>387208718
Haven't heard of that before

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How do you go from this....

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>>387210626
...to THIS

Hey guys i hate Blizzard too lets frot and discuss our mutual loathing of Blizzard.

>>387207298
A lot of the shitty limits or quirks are what allowed the game to remain interesting and support multiple paths to success in a given matchup. Things have become solidified now cause it's twenty years old but there were still big strategic shakeups happening or cool tricks that give a slight edge in a scenario being found not too long ago because of how the game functioned mechanically.

If you remove those elements for supposed quality of life improvements you are essentially deleting the entire game as it exists for the people that play it. SC2 supports those things, go play that instead.

>>387210345
ehh no. BW follows the long line of influential RTS

sc was much more monumental as an achievement in gaming and thats only as a result of battle.net more than any specific gameplay element

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Does anyone have that edit of the Bogdanoff brother with protoss facial features? I laughed my ass off at that, I don't know why I didn't save it.

I wish EA would fix the CNC games. Especially Generals.

>>387210687
i like the 2nd one better.

giving up in despair isnt a real space marine thing to do.

better to show him dead.

Why would anyone pay for this when you can just download the original one for free?

Every single MOBA derives from blizzard RTS. The entire design and artistic style of dota 2 is rip off of wc3.

>>387211103
this is a bit disingenuous to say since dota and lol were created specifically by the sc community using bliz assets. bliz had 0 input into either of the games.

>>387211208
i meant wc3 community not sc

What's a good youtube channel to watch sc matches? I'm bored at work.

>>387211248
Aeos of Strife was SC.

I think they are okay

>>387210472
The only thing SC2 vastly improved is peoples disappointment in Blizzard.

>>387207298
>we want to be clear. this is exactly the same game as the original SC only with better graphics

does no one listen? jesus

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HOW LONG UNTIL BEST STREAM STARTS AGAIN?

I don't want to wait

Why do people hate SC2 again?

Any way to play this without installing the battle net launcher?

>>387207298
>for once they dont casualize something to hell and back

>thats not fine either

>>387208101
Revenge. She assassinated his family.

>>387212862
Because it's shit.

>>387213231
People don't hate shitty things.

>>387213328
They do. Something being shit is relative. Fags who play something like overwatch grew up on crap like tf2. "Shit" for them is different from what I consider shit.
SC2 on the other hand will forever dwell in its predecessors shadow because a large amount of players still care about it. And those players are its core community. They think it's shit, if they didn't we wouldn't be getting this pathetic excuse for a remaster.

>>387207298
> Still has 12 unit limit
?

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>>387207298
What did Blizzard mean by this?

>>387207298
Oh boy, whats the matter, is 20 years old game with renewed graphic too ahrd to you?

Managing your army into 12 units battlegroups using hotkeys (well, you can now edit them), too hard for you? sad

20 years, and you still dont know how pathfinding in sc works? And workers wont start harvest automaticaly? poor little kid
No queues for buildings and no more than 5 for unit?
git gut you fucking casual scum. Its 20 years old game from times, when rts forced you to use your fucking mind to use your assets and create defense/offense strategy. Maybe try KKND or old C&C but dont back crying here how these games are bad because waves of enemy raped you in minute and you cant clear map using single commando unit

go play sc2 or something new. Sc is not made for casual millenials ang game wont give you anything on silver plate if you cant use your mouse to effect

>>387215381
Literally my fetish

>>387207298
>they made the scv guy a nigger
Typical

>>387207298
Yes, and?
It's a texture pack.
I don't know why everyone assumed it was going to be a remake of the game with all it's mechanics changed. Fuck, there were multiple interviews stating that was not the case, and people still called it a remake.

>>387215689
Yeah but it's a remake. Blizzard lied to us, like those greedy jews always do

>>387208818
It's not even a remaster. It is literally the original game, from the 90s, with a new update.

>>387208101
>First signs of insubordination and at a crucial moment
>Get a great opportunity to get rid of it before it festers
>"Hurrr why did Mengks do that??"
You can't possibly be so dense. Have you literally never taken a class in history as well where you get taught how this shit happens ALL. THE. FUCKING. TIME.?

>>387215725
>blizzard and everyone arounds states its not a remake
>anon says remake anyway

woah

>>387215725
But it's not.

>>387215725
>literally titled remastered
>but it's a remake guys

They literally updated the original and made it free. Fully compatible with the remastered.

Crying about the reskin is ridiculous, as you can just get the original game from Blizzard for free if you don't like it.

>>387215864
>>387215874
>>387215887
>idiots confuse remaster with remake
It's a synonym, fucking idiots

>>387207539
You mean you didn't play it? What were all those terran dungeon 'get to the room X' crawlers?

>>387216215
You sir are a retard.

>>387216012
>Don't get it if you don't like it
>Also make sure not to talk about it at all if you don't like it, just don't get it and stay quiet
>What do you mean this board is for discussion?
Stop being so fucking retarded anon, holy shit.

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>>387208926
You know, I can defend some of the new portraits, if only because it makes it clearer on what some of them are supposed to be, but brightening certain ones up just completely ruins that kind of aesthetic that certain portraits try to convey. Having a ghost in a well-lit room doesn't help the idea that it's a stealthy unit. Making certain protoss icons way brighter ruins that level of mysteriousness they had. Having protoss portraits synonymous with their SC2 selves makes them feel too samey as well.

>>387216945

I didn't even notice the eyes till I was about 20. I thought they where eye less like xenomorphs.

>>387209746
Well, at least Medic is now white.

>>387215381

>it's not a toung.
>it's a toung like creature with hands.
>and it has it's own toung.

What is this kung pow?

Do i need vanilla starcraft to play Remasterd? Just bought the remaster version on Bnet but it doesnt work? Wtf

>>387208182
I don't mind most of these but artanis and zeratul are a different colour for no reason
Also the originals had flatter and more varied head shapes.

>>387217794
did you not read the requirements? yes you need to install it. it's basically just an unlock

>>387217794
yes, you just paid $15 for a texture pack and dead matchmaking

>>387207298
id be playing if they did those things, most annoying shit trying to control ur units with the old system

>remaster released
>realize SC2 is a better game

lul

Wasn't there other new features like new voice overs and re-done cinematics instead of it being ported?

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Anyone else getting sick nerd chills playing through the campaign?

>>387217978
you can leave now pls

>>387218010
>playing defensively
>not building up a small platoon and steamrolling the fuck out of them

Also is there a screenshot feature now? What's the screenshot key binding now? Is it print screen or F12 now?

>>387209746
I liked the more cartoonish look of the original, where everybody had a giant nose and was sweaty and dirty, plus the cameras were way closer.

it gave a feeling the terrans were mostly space rednecks

Compare the marine
>scared
>shining with sweat
>eyes wide open
>closeup gives a horror vibe
vs
new marine
>generic bald badass
>scowling

>>387217657
To me it looks like a prolapsed anus with a hemorrhoid popping in and out desu

>>387207753

Literally the only reason they're doing this is because Koreans are going back to SC1 esports and they want to make their game prettier while cashing in at the same time.

>>387217559
She's always been white

>>387217992

I was wondering the same thing but all the voices and music arw the same.

>>387217830
>>387217903

How the fuck do i install Starcraft 1? Its free but it doesnt appear in Bnet and it gives me a link to a page that doesnt exist?

>>387218196
https://us.battle.net/account/download/
bottom of page

>>387218196
Check your account page of registered games?

The Classic games don't appear in the BNet launcher for some reason although probably for the best for anti DRM reasons.

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>tfw get to watch qt kpop gf streamers and listen to their micro

>>387215823

What sign of insubordination?

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>>387218196
Its literally in the launcher.

>>387218275
>https://us.battle.net/account/download/
>>387218291

WHen i download StarCraft® Anthology
English (US) (Change)

And press the installer it just redirects me to Bnet and tries to install remaster. fuck this shit i guess ill go play minecraft instewad

>>387208974
This, people here are really mentally handicaped

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>>387208182
>that awful artstyle reminiscent of generic Chink digital art
>some people paid for this

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>>387218070
>not being comfy and turtling

>>387218478
>reminiscent of generic Chink digital art
>the games main audience are koreans
hmmmmmmmmm

>>387209746
At least in the remake goliath got the portrait he deserves, unlike the tragedy that was sc2

>game gets remastered, doesn't change gameplay
>people go apeshit
>game gets remastered, changes gameplay
>people go apeshit

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>>387207298
>no achievement system

You had ONE job

>>387218881
>yes, let's ruin player experience by introducing achievements
No

>>387218881
I have an achievement for you
>[ ] Kill Self
quick, go unlock it!

>>387208182
They all looked like aliens before and now they just look Black.

>>387215381
Mother of god

I'm pleasantly surprised by this thread despite retard OP.

When does the stream start up again??

>>387207298
i'm more offended by the grphics and the portaits specially raynor
faggot

>>387207298
If this was the original and they removed these features in the remaster 20 years later, people would complain and burn blizzard to the ground.

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>>387207439
>you paid 15 dollars for a texture pack

>>387208101
>It's not like she was being disloyal to him
She almost was and she sure as hell would've been after Raynor had a talk with her
Mengsk knew this and chose to cull her before she would come back to bite his ass

>>387219160
He's what I wanted:

Difficulty setting for AI
Achievement system

That's it

I can live with the rest

I literally only wanted better graphics and better scaling for different native resolutions.

I dislike everything nu-Blizzard has made, including SC2, and I don't want to support them with my money.
I would not give them money for this remaster either, but to be fair it's cheap, and SC OG is now fixed for Win10 and free so I can lan with my friends who didn't have it already - so I'll allow it this time.

If it were up to me Blizz should remaster Diablo 2, release it for 15$ as well, and then scuttle the company

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>>387208101
>I always wondered what was Mengsk's reason for leaving Kerrigan to die

Cause he knew Kerrigan was a threat to him and was batshit insane due to the whole Zerg shit that was enacted on her.

>>387218496
this
why would you play the terran wrong ?

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>>387208182
>arbiter isn't a blue crocodile

>>387219071
9h.

I might wanna get into SC:R but I dunno what race to play. Played Z in SC2 but in SC1 I'm clueless. I enjoy Z mechanics but I prefer the units of T/P

>>387219020
>Blacks were in fact, descended from a previously unknown type of human now being called by researchers as Homo Protossium
>WE WUZ PROTOSS N SHIIIIEET YOU CRACKAS WE HAD FLYING CARRIERS N SHEEEET

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>playing remaster
>the hydralisks are just shadows of them

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THIS GLITCH?

>>387219274
I recall a lot of people saying that T and Z sort of swapped roles when SC2 came out. I'm not entirely sure on the logic behind it though. Anyway I'm going from diamond T in sc2 to zerg for the muta memes.

>>387207439
I seriously thought VAs and cinematics were getting a remaster as well. What happened?

>>387208080
>ladder

Of course they're going to cheese. Everyone in Plat and up are just all ESPOOOTS.
There's no point in doing a 1 hour macro game when you can just cheese everything and climb faster.

>>387219412
what are you on about?

>>387219558
>remaster them
>people bitch
>don't remaster them
>people bitch

>>387207298
>guaranteedreplies

>>387207406

That would break the multiplayer and it'd be more work for people that can just play SC2. This game is all nostalgia, it'd be like if nintendo released melee with all the bugs fixed.

All the muh melee fags would boycott the game.

>>387219668
It's more along the lines that it was announced somewhere that those things were happening and it didn't happen.

If nothing was said then I wouldn't really care.

>>387208460
Fixing pathfinding would cause units with terrible pathing like dragoons to be really damn strong. They really did just happen onto the perfectly balanced game by accident.

I need a shitty zerg so I can practice my shitty terran build order, any offers?

>>387218075
This guy gets it. Terrans in the original were literally Space Rednecks.

>>387219605
>what are you on about?

I don't see hydras, only the shadows

>>387220160
post screenshot

>>387220114
>This guy gets it. Terrans in the original were literally Space Rednecks.

They were literally all criminals sent from Earth.

>>387218075
>>387220114
We can't have any references to the United States Confederacy, that's racist.

>>387215381

I litetally never fucking noticed this. I just thought it stuck it's toung out and now I'm learning it's a creature. What the fuck. What is it supposed to,do? Is it supposed to be some Whoobafet shit where that is the real head?

>>387220230
It spits parasites that bounce off enemies I think.

Oh wow, just played agains the AI and he pulled all his drones and chased my scouting probe all the way back to my base just because I poked his mineral line. What a beast.

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>>387220183

>>387220461
Is the AI smarter in this?

>>387209746

>changed the vulture's beat-nic sunglasses into goggles

for what purpose?

>>387220475

Hydras appear normal to me, restart pc, reinstall, etc....

>>387220461
that's what the old AI also did
when I was a kid I wasn't early scouting so this didn't happened to me then, but now you can drag ten drones with an SCV vs the AI

>>387220515

it's the same from what I played

>>387215381

Why is this surprise when the Mutalisk's weapon is literally described as a parasitic organism?

>>387208182
fucking forced diversity bullshit.

>>387220475

Are they burrowed?

>>387207298
From the very beginning it was known that they won't change gameplay. Only things like sprites and resolution.

>>387215657
SC1 SCV has always been a nigger

>>387220652
Explain

>>387220275

Google says that is the glave wurm. My mind is litetally blown. All these years I though it was something completely different

>>387220610

what the fuck does it even do?
how does it inflict damage?
you just hurl a blob of meat at a carrier and it's supposed to destroy it?

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I FUCKING suck at SCBW. Should I buy the remaster?

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>>387210823
Incoming transmission

>>387221681
do it. I played my first ever game of BW against a real human and I won. theres alot of new players on now so nows the time

>>387207298
they obviously shouldn't touch any of that and you're an idiot

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>>387222402

ASL squad unite!

>>387207298
Are you retarded? It was made JUST for the nostalgia fags, no other reason.

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>>387222793
yeye

>change stuff
>people complain
>don't change stuff
>people complain

???

Blizzard couldn't win this one. But at least this way they get the nostalgia bux.

BTW the new artstyle sucks and the only appeal of this ''remaster'' is -flawless- 16:9

>>387222862
But I'm a gamer and they should pander all my needs

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Daily reminder not to go for an all-in cheese in a tournament unless its a 4pool.

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>>387222986

>>387207298
Good

This remaster is exactly what I wanted, I'm so goddamn happy they stayed so faithful to the original that there is zero reason to not play the remaster instead.

>>387207298
> Can't que buildings
> Can't que more than 5 units.
Que, esé?

nostalgia? this game is crazy good you cunts

The new unit death animations are fucking awful, the blue poof just makes it look like you just killed a hallucination.

Whats a good hotkey setup? I'm trying out 5,6,7 for hatcheries and then 1-4 for units. But its hard because in SC2 I only used like 5 hotkeys at most.

>>387223414
Use camera hotkeys for hatcheries, lategame zerg you will fucking fill those number keys because you have so much shit.

Hotkey management as Zerg in BW is very difficult, and it will take you a long time to get used to.

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>>387208182
>meanwhile on deviantart

>>387223476
Why does Aldaris have that weird dent in the middle of his face to begin with? It looks like a retarded mouth. Or a moustache.

>>387223245
>No reason not to
I can name at least 15.

>>387223565
To play the original over remaster?

Only possible reason that comes to mind is protoss portraits, and that's so minor I can't even begin to describe how silly of a reason it is.

>>387223562
Because before sc2 protoss were allowed to have distinct facial features

>>387208101

You didn't read the books.

Kerrigan assassinated his family. Leaving her after using her all this time was intentional.

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>>387208182
Why did they get rid of the unique jawlines and skin colors? Every one of them has a slender gray face now.

>>387224157
>books written 4 years or so after the actual game to make up for the loose ends

nice argument fampai

>>387224157
that feels wildly out of character. Mengsk was portrayed as masterful political operator, not someone who would waste time on petty revenge.

>>387208182
>Zeratul's resting face is now angry instead of neutral
>All brightly lit except Zeratul
>Mysteriousness removed
>Identical jaws and skin color
Nice "remaster"

>>387224157
>reading video game novels
Fuck, no.

Why is the new interface so poor? Even the unit wireframes are fucking trash. They really didn't care at all while doing this remaster, did they?

>>387224856
Look at the "preorder" skins and tell me how much you think they cared.

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>>387208101
It was the only way

The 12 max unit selection thing is not a technical limitation but a design decision.
It's makes using few units to attack viable instead of just macroing up to 200 and A-clicking.

>>387221217
>10 marines can down a battlecruiser with their handguns
It never made a lick of sense, anon

>>387221217
the creatures can eat metal.

>>387207298

You know what happens when you fix all these things? It becomes SC2. Perfect control means you just create these big death balls. And Death ball vs. Death Ball is boring.

>>387208182
FENIX NOOOOOOOOOO

>>387219792
It had like 20 million patches.

They had a pretty broken game that over time was refined into balance, both by them and the players/map makers.

even demuslim is jumping ship

sc2 is actually gonna die thanks to sc:r

so cool

>>387226193
>all the second hand nostalgiafags jump onto sc:r
>a week later they realize that the controls are dated and the gameplay is as stale as it's ever been
>western matchmaking stays about as dead as before
>gooks just keep playing because it's all they know
nice

>>387218161
>brown eyes
>white

So are all the good customs back?

>>387226410
the game is fun what are you on about

why are you so salty

are you a dota player by any chance

Do we have high res of the defeat/victory screens yet? They'd make decent wallpapes

>>387226562
>the game is fun what are you on about
It's been out for almost 20 years. The only reason anyone could be thrilled about it at this point, given that it's the same exact fucking game as before, is because they've just fucking heard of it.

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>>387217207
>eye less like xenomorphs
what?

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>>387207298

>Still has 12 unit limit
Muh Deathball. 12 units is a good limit if you want to make micro and macro actually count.

>Still has terrible pathfinding
Agreed, Ramps are suffering.

>Workers don't automatically start working
Oh no, the player actually have to keep track of stuff they are doing? How horrible.

>Can't que buildings
Again, the player have to keep track on whats happening. That is a good thing.

>Can't que more than 5 units.
It's rare that the player have enough minerals and gas to produe above 5 units. Even if he does they will have more than a few buildings so there is not a problem here.

>>387218075
>>387209746
>>387208182

Some portraits really came out well, so well actually that we finally understood what somethings were, like the drone eyes.

However what I really mis is the way everything was angled and cutoff in the original portraits. They were always very crammed into frame sometimes with very wide angle like lenses that distorted their faces. Now its all so neatly done in terms of framing.

They are also less grotesque than they were in the first game. SCV had the widest nose ever, marine the most meaty face. The battlecruiser was the squarest fucking jawline ever. Kerrigan looked like smashing every 90s punk/rock/pop singer together in one face. Duke looked like an ape. It was al draped in the 90s with its wide-angles, crammed frames and ugly looking faces. They switched that for something more clean, sadly.

Also I dont like the thick outlining that makes everything cartoony. Especially the zerg buildings dont come out nicely, which I think is because of the black outlines.

>>387207496

The story is miles better, but the missions are pretty stupid.

>>387226806
it looks a hell of a lot better than it used to and its never had matchmaking before and its on the fucking bnet client next to overwatch and hearthstone. but ok go be salty more sc2cuck/dotard whatever you are.

>>387227089
>its on the fucking bnet client next to overwatch and hearthstone
Which apparently is a fucking highlight for an average blizzdrone. How much more pathetic can you get?

>>387227243
How miserable is your life that you get triggered by such irrelevant shit?

>>387227243
jsut fuck off and kill yourself you falseflagging retard. go suck some jap cock in one of your million weeb game threads instead. you clearly are just here to hate.

>you know remember the faggot who gave away the source code in exchange to a keyboard and a headset

>>387227362
>>387227379
the damage control is real

>>387227441
What damage? Stop spouting nonsense.

>>387227441
What damage control? It's the original game with revamped graphics. It's exactly what they promised.

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Will people finally realize that this is nothing more than a cash grab and Blizzard jews are almost as bad as EA or Ubi?

>>387227539
>Stop spouting nonsense
As soon as you stop being so desperate to tell someone off on an anonymous imageboard :^)

>>387211103

Dota was just a collection of popular characters from every series you can think of. Anything from anime to books and other games.

>>387227581
>It's exactly what they promised
That wasn't even the original point of discussion. You must be replying to a wrong reply chain at this point.

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>>387207298

>remastered
>it's not even 3D
>even still uses the same fucking sprites

How fuck stupid do you have to be to fall for this shit? They're literally just selling you the same game again.

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>>387207298
The pace of Sc1 would get fucked to hell if it didn't have its current limitations.

Have you guys tried pressing F5 in-game yet? I shit my pants when I discovered it.

Anyway, I'm fucking loving remastered. It looks really fantastic IMO. Screenshots and videos don't do it justice at all. They stayed very faithful to the original art, save for some of the portraits.

Other good points:
>base non-HD game is now free, the only thing free players can't access is the ranked ladder
>official brood war ranked ladder again for the first time since the early 2000s
>modern updates to the old Starcraft client, finally rebindable hotkeys
>updated custom game lobbies; filter and search options for joining games
>all of the old UMS maps and all your old replays still function as they always did with remastered graphics

I love it.

>>387227734
I don't think it would be viable to make it 3D. You would have to make a completely new engine or use one of the other Blizzard engines, probably fucking up with AI and balance in the process. They didn't want to touch the gameplay at all.
Also if you don't feel like this update is worth the money then don't buy it. The original is free.

>>387227734
That's the whole damn point.

This remaster is not for you, babbies raised on dota and company of heroes. It's for us, the people who have been playing this shit for a decade.

>>387228915
>It's for us, the people who have been playing this shit for a decade.

>It's for us, the blizzard cocksuckers playing blizzard games since we discovered blizzard with WoW

>>387229205
>playing blizzard games that aren't sc2 made after 2007

Go be a babb somewhere else

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>>387228123
>mfw hitting F5

fucking hell man. beautiful

Is that what it was like for the Xbone and the MCC?

>>387228915
> It's for us, the people who have been playing this shit for a decade.
> babbies raised on dota

It's funny that such an ancient pro gamer doesn't know shit about Aeon Strife.

>>387229351
> WoW
> Made after 2007

> SC2
> Good

And here, people, came the shitposter lord.

>>387227734
yeah. we should totally go spend our 15 bucks on something better. How about that new skin in DOTA2? or that new loot box? hell yea

>>387229438
>wants BW to be a different game
>sc2 is bad meme

You don't even like starcraft, why are you here?

>>387229356
>>387228123

wut happens?

>>387229582
> Omg DOTA hurr DOTA Muh DOTA

The typical Blizzdrone. Maybe you should look after Hearthstone, Overwatch or Heroes of the Storm, retard.

>>387207298
This remaster isn't for you, there is a reason Starcraft 2 is basically dead

>>387229613
Go find out

>>387229683
How much have you dropped on DOTA 2? Be honest, I promise I won't make fun of you

>>387229808
> Everyone playing DOTA2 as a F2P has dropped money for skins

Are you retarded?

>>387229808
skins are optional shit, why would anyone spend money on it?

>>387229890
You speak english so you aren't the typical third-world dota zombie
Quit shitposting and be honest. I'm just curious is all

Who /pol/ here?

>>387207298
there is an inherent challenge baked into sc in which a player with a larger army needs to invest more apm to move it all. someone with a smaller army has a certain advantage

>>387208771
You mean they have learned?
Because yooka laylee was an attempt to ride the fame if an old game but tried to implement new things which made it into a garbage budget version of banjo

Starcraft remastered literally just touches up the graphics and introduces actual matchmaking

Don't see the problem there.

>>387229963
Who knows, but surely that 22 mil video game tournament didn't come out of Valve's own pockets, did it?

>>387208182
they only one I take issue with is Raszagal because the old portrait gave an image of an old stout elder while the new one looks closer to Artanis's age.

>>387216945
> mfw the i always thought the overlords head was huge but actually it's the tiny bit in the front

>>387207298
You people don't like anything don't you? They said SC was getting a GRAPHICS REMASTER. All those facts that you listed make the game what it is. You want those to be different then go play a different fucking game. Jesus Christ, you people really believe that the world has to be shaped to suit your wants and needs all the time, don't you? The WoW team listened to people like you and now WoW is the casualiest, shittiest piece of shit there ever was.

>>387230237
> Sponsors (energy drinks, retarded keyboard/mouse, intel/amd bullshit...)
> Esports team

This is where the money come from. The same goes with blizzard (even if they attempt to sold "war chest" to justify it).

Esport money is as disgusting as traditional sports one.

>>387208182
you can tell they were trying real hard to make all the heroes look like their SC2 counterparts.

>>387207298
Can you zoom out?

>>387230443
> The WoW team listened to people like you and now WoW is the casualiest, shittiest piece of shit there ever was.
> Vanilla WoW was the best!

Oh boi, here we go.

>>387230443
Even in its time, WoW was a piece of shit with a slow-paced gameplay makes to grab your monthly fee.

>>387230524
Did I ever say that Vanilla WoW was the best? Let's not hurry to conclusions brother. I just said that actual-day WoW is a casual piece of shit, even a blindfolded 7 yo with his hands tied to his back could play the game and not die.

>>387230443
> you people really believe that the world has to be shaped to suit your wants and needs all the time, don't you?

Basically, each corporation indeed. That's the easiest way they can prosper.

>>387207357
This its the same reason counterstrike has stayed very similar for so long. The long time fanbase does not want it to change. They also had to make the remaster compatible with the original game's multiplayer but I suppose there could have been options to only play against people only on the remaster with new QoL improvements.

>>387230509
Yeah you can zoom way out (in observer mode)

>>387208460
Each crystal field can only be mines by one worker at a time with 2.5 workers per patch being the optimium for harvest. You may be confused by the fastest map possible varient where they stack 50 minerals ontop of eag other.

I played Starcraft for the custom games. The Kirby/Family guy mass attack shit, the FFVII and other various RPGs, the evolves, the roleplaying servers. Are those back in full force or do we have to re-make all of them?

Do the creators of the past even care anymore? Are the new generations even capable?

>>387233248
Most are just here for the ladder matchmaking.
If you plan on getting the game JUST for the UMS, I suggest otherwise
Unfortunately, as far as UMS goes, WC3 and SC2 are the better options right now in terms of population

>>387232196
How far out? Like supreme commander?

>Play two games vs CPU
>First game it sends a bunch of Zealots and I get owned
>Find out I needed to build Vultures and tanks
>Second game it makes a bunch of Hydralisks
>Find out I needed to build tanks

Is playing Terran just about building as many Siege Tanks as possible?

>>387233590
Last I checked the SC2's UMS scene was severly limited because people never actually figured out how to use the new editor.

I think I saw one rpg on there surrounded by nothing else but evolve.

>>387233248
I'm sure you can find map packs of all these and more

>>387233640
Siege Tanks and Goliaths.

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The remaster actually looks so fucking good

The first mission took me close to 10 min to complete because I was just marveling at the difference, mashing F5, watching raynor patrol micro all the zerg on the map to death.

Wasn't even producing half the time. Screenshots and low res videos doesn't do it justice at all.

So fucking happy with this.

>>387233691
No people are doing amazing things with the editor, its the shitty way the custom game scene makes and find games that sucks.

>>387233640

The standard playstyle is that T is the mos versitle race that can be Zerg-like or Protoss like. For Zerg, you build a Medic-Marine army that's fast and mobile, supported by Sci-vessels. For Toss, you wall in and go full mech. Push out after 1-0 upgrades.

>>387233640
Yeah basically
Bots in this game follow 1 build order in every game. It's just some stupid ass early timing attack into doing fuckall for the next 10 minutes.

>I can't even beat bots

h2protoss ;_;

>>387209129
>>387209202
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY NOT RESPECTING THE ORIGINAL ARTISTS WORK IS INTEGRAL TO MAINTAINING THE IDENTITY
Not even tattoo artists fuck with other peoples work, you mongos.

>>387233691
You'd think that, but it's mainly the fault of Battle.net 2.0 being awful
If you truly enjoyed SC1's UMS maps over the new ones, then why not. I'd say you'd get your fill over 15 bucks

Since when have Blizzard put in any more than the bare minimum effort required for something

>>387233813
Why is the terran command center plated with gold?

> Hi Activision, here Mike Morhaime! Ok, we got an awesome idea, are you ready? Fuck the customers, we are not making a HD patch, but a $15 ""remaster""!

> Oh Mike, we are so glad to have you here at Activision-Blizzard! Our stockholders are crazy right now!

>>387234263
Shitty pre-order bonus, haven't checked if you can turn it off but I hope you can

>>387208642
>Are these siege tanks coming down the ramp :3

>>387234226
> Diablo 3 Necromancer
> Months in a closed beta
> Still bugged as fuck (chain kill broken)
> Only $15 DLC

>>387234295
I was going to say, the terran are meant to be space convicts and bumpkins.

>>387234263
Pre order bonus, so kids who never played SC before can look so cool on the ladder

>>387233862
I'm a super scrub at this game, what does 1-0 upgrades mean?

>>387234524

You are upgrading right? Prioritize attack. For M&M, it's 1 attack, zero defense, stim, range, medics then push out. For mech, get 1-0 before pushing out. 2-1 Terran mech pushes are DEVESTATING.

Watch Korean matches and learn the meta. Steal their builds. Flash has a patented double armory build that's just devestating.

>>387230443
/v/ is not the overmind everyone here as different opinions. Even mildly glancing over this thread will show you that.

Changing any aspect of the game would completely ruin the balance the game has achieved over the years.

hooooly fuck I am struggling so hard in this game. I feel like very little of SC2 zerg translates well int othis game. Normally in SC2 I'd make Queens and that would eat a lot of my minerals and with injects I'd be able to spend my money but in BW I find myself floating so much money and I just dunno how to spend it. fuck this is different.

>>387234685
Gotcha.

Another question I have about the remaster specifically is that when I played the vanilla versions, I could make Medics after building an academy but in the remaster the option isn't there anymore. Did they move it to somewhere else?

>>387234884
..just build more Hatcheries? Unlike SC2, macro hatcheries are required

>>387234884
You make a shitload of hatcheries.

Not even necessarily at new mineral patches, your 3rd hatch generally goes in your main by the ramp.

You also want to take a lot of bases, gas is your best friend and you want a goddamn ton of it. Read up on saviors theories on zerg economics.

Zerg is the hardest race in BW until the top level.

>>387207496
so play the total recall mod. WOW that was really hard and I didn't spend extra money WTF?

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>>387215381

>actual in-game graphics look great and are extremely faithful to the originals
>think for a moment that I'm actually gonna give my money to blizzard for the first time in a decade
>see the unit portraits
Jesus fucking christ what were they thinking? And to think they actually spent resources on this disgusting shit rather than just upscaling the old ones

fuck you blizzard, you almost had me

>>387235013
>Zerg is the hardest race in BW until the top level.

It certainly seems that way.

Is the Nova mission pack thingie for SC2 fun?

From what I understand, it's basically the Hero Unit/MOBA thing Kerrigan had going on in the HotS campaign or something?

>>387218070
>Steamrolling them
>On a map with limited minerals
>On a level where your most advanced unit is a Vulture
>In a game without medics

ISHYDDT

>>387235102

JESUS FUCK I NEVER FUCKING NOTICED

>>387233640

Wut.

Against Zerg your fine with only 1-1 Marine and Medic with stim. Late game when they have dark cloud you need to transition into mech.

>>387207298
>>387207357
It would affect the balance of the game and negate the whole fucking "switch between new and old at will" thing, not to mention the crossplay between versions, and every pro they spoke to said not to fix pathing and shit.

unfortunately you will still have to git gud the old fashioned way. no easy street QOL shit from SC2 here.

>>387227587
dumb anime poster

>>387219007
your a retard

>>387208182
a lot better than the sort of garbage i expected at least. the animations are cool too.

I decided to try matchmaking so I could get my ass whooped in 4k with real time lighting but I keep getting fail to find match? Anyone find one yet?

>pallete swap for 15 dollars
I'm not that upset. I'd rather replay the real starcraft with updated sprites, not let actiblizz "fix" it

>>387207507
love how this one comment has no replies despite being the only person with their head on straight.

complain about trivializing games, then complain when a classic game doesn't get trivialized with casualfag improvements, /v/ is contrarian as fuck and wants reasons not to enjoy any given thing

>>387207298
>Can't queue more than 5 units

/v/, once again, confirmed for casual

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>>387226845

I mean, it's impossible to see them. Also for most of the canon it was said that Xenomorphs didn't have eyes.

>>387207298

I actually enjoy all these things, except maybe the pathing. It requires you to actually pay attention to anything instead of just queuing shit up and afking like in SC2.

>>387208182
original protoss
>wise alien looking
new protoss
>war of the worlds tier angst

>>387236053
they managed to severely fuck with a handful of unit portraits and those abysmal looking preorder skins, god only knows how they'd ruin actual gameplay elements if they felt inclined to

>>387218010
Did they up the difficulty of the campaign, or is it literally the same?

>>387224157
>>387224436
I read the "I, Mengsk" novel and I don't recall them mentioning this, which is weird cuz that's his "origin story" book (it's also extremely bad)

>>387229731
im not wasting 15 dollars on the same game I've played to death, sorry that I have enough of a brain to not be tricked by jewish propaganda

>>387208180
they want to pretend they understand competitive SC1 despite not being anywhere near that level

>>387207298
Its a remaster, not a remake.

The fact that we could control an entire army with 1 hotkey in Starcraft 2 was something the pros complained about all the time.

>>387219792
>happen onto the perfectly balanced game

Brood war was never, ever balanced. This meme appeared when sc2 came out and people started virtue signaling how long they had been a fan.