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>Asian MMO >Women PC has all the female feature and can

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>Asian MMO
>Women PC has all the female feature and can wear slutty armor
>Western MMO
>Woman PC are unattractive as fuck and cover from head to toe
>Might or might not have a manface/retarded half shaved head
Why is this a thing?
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Can't isolate the muslim audience.
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>>387186003
because most female gamer are fat and ugly

while most asian female gamers are qt pies
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>>387186275
>while most asian female gamers are qt pies
Not sure about rest of Asia, but Japanese ones are ugly as fuck for the most of them.

Head to any convention related to anime/gaming there, they look fucking terrible. Shit isn't like your chinese cartoon. Granted not that many are fat (yet) at least, some chubby sure but no landwhales.
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>mmo
>game sucks
why is this a thing
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>mmo
>unattractive characters
mmos have character creation, any ugly pc is on the player
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>Asian MMO
>100% like every other Asian MMO

I REALLY tried to get into this shit. I wanted a cute loli character so bad. But it's all shit. It's all so very shitty.
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>>387187008
Including TERA? It has a nice combat system and loli in one go.
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>>387186003
>Korean MMOs
>Attractive women
They are fucking disgusting. They just go full tits and thighs then call it a day without any good cute outfits or the ability to make anything that isn't slutty.
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>>387186003
western world is currently too worried about the feelings of women who had no interesting personality and became nerdy in order to get attention that would otherwise go to actual good looking women.
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>>387186003
I'm an ugly manlet but always want to play as chad in mmo but why the heck does woman want to play as an abomination in any mmo?
This confused me so.
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>>387186003
>MMO
that's a problem bigger than unattractive characters
I want more single-player MMO simulators like SAO
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>>387187441
women are self centered cunts
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>>387187506
It not limited to MMO, however.
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Is this a 'post your toon' thread?
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>>387187573
>looking for hotties in Bioware games in [CURRENT YEAR]
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>>387186762
Try making a good looking female character in Secret World Legends. Good luck.
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>>387186003
asian know the players

western try to score virtue points
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>>387187657
>wildstar
mah nigga
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>>387186003

One's a game and the other is waifu dress up simulator

And the west has SL for that
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>>387186589
Do you have any examples of these "terrible" japanese women?

Asking for a friend
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>>387186589
>tfw at this point in my life i'd gladly take an "ugly japanese" as long as she is mentally stable
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>>387187657
>Wildstar
how's it feel playing a single player online game?
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>>387187441
Women that actually play games tend to make attractive characters and pick races that allow them to do so regardless of their real looks. The vocal minority that bitch and whine about beauty standards and gender roles and whatnot don't actually play games, and even when they do they're a sliver of a sliver of the player base and don't last long.
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>>387186003
>Asian MMO
>utter garbage with stolen assets
>you basically have to pay to level up
>everyone plays and pays for it cuz f2p
Why is this a thing?
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>>387188609
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>>387188760
They're more concern about having a career or looking for a husband that is richer than them
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>>387186003
>asian mmo
>sliders barely change anything
>certain sliders are locked based on race

fuck asia
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>>387187441
>but why the heck does woman want to play as an abomination in any mmo?
They don't. Why do you think Japanese F2P MMOs tend to beat out every western MMO made after 2009?
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>>387189141
5 seconds later the camera focuses on her face and my boner shrinks back, not worth it.
that's when SFM ends up being better than the game itself
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Why are Vindictus waifus so god-tier?
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>>387187657
i too enjoy single player mmorpgs
that's why i play BDO on occasion
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>>387187139
Tera became the new baseline for kMMOs
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>>387188609
Ayy XD my dog asked for sauce :3 y'know, for science purposes X3
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>>387187441
>>387189565
>Western MMO
>try to attract the GAMER GURLZ audiences
>developers fell into their demand to make female character more "realistic" and not sexist
>they end up not buying their mmo and sell tank because PC look like shit, regardless of the content of the game
Compare to this:

>Eastern MMO
>ignore retarded suggestion and go full out hot women
>mmo is an instant sell, even if the game mechanic is shit
>immediately start listen to demand about cashshop outfit so these players can buy them with real life money
>all these instant profit
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>>387186003
>>Western MMO
Well yeah, it's dusty and sunny in the West.
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>>387186003

Western artists are stuck so hard on the social ideology bandwagon that they have actually started doing things that hurt their own sales and popularity. They would rather turn down money and likes on facebook if they come from anyone besides their super SJW friends.

Asian artists draw what they like and what appeals to people. They aren't getting kickbacks from the government and SJWs. They have to make a product that appeals to people or they don't make money.
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>>387187657
hey I still have a glitterkitty set sitting on my account, is it still worth anything?
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>>387187657
>wildshart
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>>387186003

what?
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>>387189842
Is vindictus still any fun?
last i played i managed to be able to walk to some castle town and stopped playing after i was running some burning village themed dungeon and all the armors mixing horribly with the default innerwear
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>>387191159
Yeah, I just started again with the new update.
It made questing a LOT less tedious since you can accept and turn in quests from anywhere.
Also, you can just hop into dungeons now if you want to, no boats needed anymore if you solo stuff.
Gear now rarely drops pre-enhanced and enchanted. No idea about the endgame yet though.
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>>387191153
You know Guild Wars is Korean, right?
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>>387191153
why do so many armors in GW2 look like shit
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>>387186003
Fuck you, I liked her.

though you can't make it in any game mostly because of the fucking doggy eyes Mer canonically have.
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>>387191285
published by Koreans, developed and run by Americans
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>>387191153
Anon, GW 2 humans and norns all have down syndromes, and it a step down compare to GW 1's beautiful ladies.
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>>387191153
that's pretty tame compared to Asian MMOs. btw is that gw2?
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>>387189842
Because porn is illegal in South Korea
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>>387191284
Does it still have that stamina to enter dungeons thing?
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>>387190182
I wish this game was actually fun and the itemization in the game wasn't complete ass.
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>>387191571
No. With the exception of Royal Army Raids and endgame raids, I think, you can enter everything as much as you want to. Also, a lot of the story got changed for the better. Though, a lot of challenge early on was taken out for easier progression.
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>>387191389
bottom row right is way too cute for a Necromancer
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Shut up OP you dumb faggot.
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>western developers make ugly female characters in an attempt to appeal to women
>all of the women I know that play video games make cute characters so they can dress them up in cute clothes or play cute characters in games without character creators

It really activates my almonds.
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>>387190870
They're post modernists. Everything is a power struggle with them because in their eyes everything is the oppressed vs the oppressor. They claim some human activity is oppressive with no evidence and proclaim that institutions must intervene to reward the oppressed and punish the oppressors. And they just repeat this over and over again.

nb4 this thread gets deleted now
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>>387192206
Sorry but according to the western developers, those characters aren't relatable. Enjoy your manjaw woman with neon green mohawk hair.
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>>387191770
I might give it another go
Though having that one cute bear costume get ruined by the shitty innerwear was pretty shit
really dont want to spend real money just to not have my gear look like shit
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>>387192206

All the women I know play games with guys in them. Like Zelda, Harvest Moon and Assassins Creed. Games where they can obsess over some muscle freak or a skinny dude wearing latex. But of course men aren't allowed to play a game with a girl in latex and a bare chest.
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>>387192737
I know that feel.
Though, the game has a lot of events where they give out free coupons for inner wear and hair styles. Mostly 7/30 days, but permanent coupons are also given out, including rarer stuff like enchant runes and shit. You practically don't need to spend a dime if you just do the events.
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>>387191712
But everyone having the exact same pieces of gear is great, right?

And the fact that the blackstone refining is the worst in fucking history
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>>387192639
>Western Dev: I can't relate so neither do you.
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>>387192937
You must be reading my mind.
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>>387190264
i thought it was BDO
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>It's not realistic for a girl to wear skimpy clothing in battle!
It's also not realistic that a girl can wear 100 pounds of steel and swing a broadsword. I'll take fun over reality.
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>>387193274
>Tera came out several years before BDO
>BDO follows the general pattern laid out by Tera
no
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>>387192908
>that e3 preview of Zelda and how all the women only presenters stripe Link to his undies and play the game like that
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>Unattractive

But Dranei, Goblin, Human and both Elf races are hot.
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>>387186003
Why are you a thing?
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>>387193405
WoW was in an era before all the shitty female model existed.
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>>387193330
They literally can and do, anon. It's not even all about realism either. It's about equity. Give me men in slutty clothes too and don't make men just masses of muscle with Ken doll crotches because that stuff's not what most people actually find sexy about men's body's.
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>>387187441

This so much.
When I play games I usually pick at least a somewhat attractive character. It's not my priority, but I don't see any reason to go out out of my way to create someone ugly. How fucked up has to be your self esteem to play someone uglier than yourself just to not feel inferior and threatened?
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Why do people KEEP saying Korean MMO. They don't make MMOs anymore. The only section of the East making MMOs today are Chinese MMOs.

See the following:
Top Tier:
>Moonlight Blade
>Sword of Legends (Graphics on par if not better than Black Desert)
>Justice Online

Decent tier
>Monter Hunter Online
>Revelations Online
>Twilight Spirits

The LAST Korean MMO that released was Black Desert Online (many years ago) with no new MMOs announced for PC since that game was announce literally 5 years ago and in Korean that game does very poor. Blade and Soul is still the #1 3D MMO in Korean today. But Dungeon Fighter Online is the #1 overall MMO in Korean.
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>>387193595

>It's not even all about realism either. It's about equity.
I assume you mean equality. And it's not about equality. If it was about equality then SJWs would have stopped long ago. They complained and got a ton of special laws and free stuff to the point that they're actually surpassing men in many things. But since they saw their actions worked, they will keep complaining so they get more.

If it was true equality, then we'd call them out on it just like we do for men. If a man went out and started protesting that he got fired from work for sexism, no one would listen to him. If a woman does it, she automatically wins. Even if she has zero case and made the whole thing up.
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>>387193952

>The only section of the East making MMOs today are Chinese MMOs.
The two biggest MMOs besides WoW are made in Japan. And by the same company. But of course that company won't release the good one to the west.
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>>387193952
you have some really weird spellings of lineage 1
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dumb xi cucks
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need to get back into TERA because Castanic girls are too hot.
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>>387194369
>The two biggest MMOs besides WoW are made in Japan.
How new are you to PC/MMO games to think Japan has a MMO that is more popular than the most popular Korean MMOs?
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>>387193980
Equity =! Equality
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>>387189040
Why always depict whites with bigger noses when a large portion of their population seems to have fatter noses than even most blacks.
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>>387194369
Even Tortanic is bigger than either FF game
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>>387192737
Its 12 bucks on steam to get a permanent hair and inner coupon. One per character. But if you play the game enough. 12 bucks for one game is a deal
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Not that anon, I'd play the hell out of Vindictus if I had someone to play it with me. Playing games alone gets boring overtime and eventually I stop playing altogether. That's what happens anytime I try to play Vindictus.
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>>387193952
As of right now, the top tier MMOs in S.Korea are...

6-maplestory
7-dungeon fighter
8-lineage
9-blade and soul
12-black desert
14-world of warcraft
15-Aion
24-Tera
25-Lineage 2
29-Final Fantasy 14

http://www.gamemeca.com/popup/ranking.php?scode=O
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>>387195651
>permanent hair and inner coupon. One per character.
wait, so it's 12$ for one hair/inner coupon?
As in you have one pick on both and that's it?
or permanent access to all inner/hair changing?
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>>387195532

What are you basing that on? Number of players (which is an estimate at best) or total units sold (which is not a measurement of active players) or profit made (which no one can say for sure since companies don't announce it)?

If he's wrong, so are you. No one can prove anything.
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I've been looking into wasting my life in a free mmo never really played one at any length.
Almost thought about putting money down on BDO.

What is the better game?
Vindictus, Tera, or Blade and Soul?
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>>387196127
Yeah the same ones I named. What's your point?
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>literally not a single decent looking MMO on the horizon near or far
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>>387196293
I was corroborating your claim.
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>>387196242
TERA rehashes dungeons every 2 updates and has garbage performance, BnS has a huge progression wall and garbage performance, Vindictus can be quite a grind, but at least decent performance.
You choose what qt waifu you want to play
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>>387187657
>toon
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>>387196242
Well all three are consider to have the best combat in any mmo out there, so you have some good taste. There nothing wrong with choosing one of those, just pick the one that looks the best to you.
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>>387196570
I wanted to try Bless, but apparently that's dying plus a hassle to install.
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>>387196673
>these three are considered to have the best combat in any mmo out there
Debatable
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>>387196787
And, if I remember correctly, NA/EU localization was dropped because the performance was way too garbage and the dev couldn't fix it.
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>>387196673
I'd say dfo beats them personally.
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>>387196569
>LOLREALISM
I bet you're the same faggot that laugh at Mario having a headache after hitting that first block.

>>387196787
They're revamping it at the moment. They want to make it good so they can release it in the West.
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>>387196242
Vindictus is extremely repetitive. You'll be playing the same content repeatedly.

Tera is fun but grindy and can be very ping reliant.

Blade and Soul is fun too but can also be very ping reliant. IMO it has the best character creator and most fun combat mechanics if you have a good ping.
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>>387196242
I had the most fun with Tera. Sorceress was really fun glasscannon DPS and I loved playing Lancer even though people yelled at me all the time because I was awful at tanking.
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>>387196953
Aren't Sorceress outclass by Gunners? Also, is Archer still the highest critter in the game?
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>>387196886
I think I read something about it's rerelease while I was trying to find install information.
If that's the case I may just want to wait and hope it makes it to the west soon.
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>>387196787
Bless is currently being rebuilt because the combat in the game is garbage. We'll have to wait to see how it turns out.
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At least none of the games mentioned are as bad as this turd sandwich.
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>>387196569
>fantasyland
>wear full plate
>arrows go through it like butter anyways
Might as well run around like those celtic savages.
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>>387197045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WPT8pfHoVk
Those faggots that
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>>387193595
>It's about equity
Equality, and no it's not because women don't play video games, thank god.
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>>387186003
>Korea is the main producer of cancerous Asian MMO
>No porn in Korea
A man's gotta fap.
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>>387197072
armor that looks like armor is more aesthetic.
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>>387195420
Yes East Asians have wider features than a lot of African Americans / Afro Latinas from what I've seen
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>>387197298
game?
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>>387196242
I stopped playing tera when they race and gender locked like 4 classes in a row. They can suck my cock.
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best action game mmo combat coming through
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>>387197108
Captcha ate my comment. Lolifags got their wish with a human version of the loli race.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAVca95Af5k
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>>387197298
magic armor that works like magic armor is more functional
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>>387197298
>aesthetic
>posts bunny mutant
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>>387197446
>enchant my sword with +5 magick pierce
Bet you wish you were in proper armor now, mageboi.
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>>387197408
Rogue > Reaper > Eclair > Nobleria
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>>387197390
>doesn't play a waifu in waifu games
what's the point then?
I'm joking of course
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>>387197036
Gunners haven't been top DPS in a while. In fact, I'm pretty sure they rank near the bottom these days. Although there was a buff recently, but I haven't bothered doing PvE in a while. If you want ranged but don't want to play a sorc go Archer.
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>>387197408
what is this?
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>>387197408
beating on a defenseless mob
This is boring. Why do I never see webms of enemies that can put up a fight or stuff that requires a group?
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>>387197036
I stopped playing around the Gunner update so I wouldn't know. I'm sure the new race locked classes are all monsters though.
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>>387197578
I actually used to kill elin players on sight as well as those racoons that I forget the name of.
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>>387197554
>Rogue
good taste
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>>387197298
I prefer kitty
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>>387197335
bless
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>>387186003
Western MMOs they're ussually not very well covered, not sure what rock you've been living under, they're way uglier though so it doesn't really help
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>>387189842
Because one the the producers made a character based off of his actual qt wife irl
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>>387197662
because you just youtube for that?
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>>387197752
Oh shit is it out yet?
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>>387197830
if you're gonna shill for your dead mmo the least you can do is try to make it look good.
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>>387197697
I don't blame you. You can only take so much elin honey bullshit before you go full KoS.
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>>387197662
Because endgame in Kritika is literally 4 people doing 100 billion DPS stunlocking a boss to death in 15 seconds. It's great if you like seeing huge numbers and bosses dying instantly. I mean, it works for DFO.
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>>387197809
I'm going to need pictures of the wife to make sure you're telling the truth.
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>>387197807
this
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>>387186003
yes america is a shithole and is destroying the world
just play japanese games
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>>387197871
http://2p.com/49961653_1/The-quotRebuild-Projectquot-will-Fundamentally-Change-Bless-Online-by-MMORPGmaster.htm
They're remaking Bless so the game won't bomb in the West like the first version did with Russia.
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>>387197871
no
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>>387197993
The game never came out in russia. It was kill in beta.
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>>387197898
>shill
>never even mentioned the name of the game once
>unaware of the purpose of the webms to begin with
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ACTION COMBAT SUCKS ASS
>ACTION COMBAT SUCKS ASS
ACTION COMBAT SUCKS ASS
>ACTION COMBAT SUCKS ASS
ACTION COMBAT SUCKS ASS
>ACTION COMBAT SUCKS ASS
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>>387197993
Man i just want to make a cute sexy waifu lioness
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>>387198082
>unaware of the purpose of the webms to begin with
enlighten me
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>>387197914
Anyone else just plays the game, elin pickers never shut up about their fucking character.
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>>387198130
It's not that it sucks, it's just that devs think they can stop there. They forgot enemies and dungeons need to be well designed too
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>>387198130
Only people with zero reaction time say this. I enjoy both turn based and action combat because I'm not disabled.
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>>387186003
>liking sluts in underwear
>not prefering an actual fighter in full armor.

just imagine anon, after the fight, you help her get her armor off, massaging her inmaculate, well toned and sweaty body. kissing and tending to the very rare spots where her armor failed her, knowing you're the one person that gets to see her as vulnerable and exposed.
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>>387198138
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q622J71Tru0
Yeah it a great middle ground between catgirl and furry, and I can see both side loving it. Furfags will love the loli race.
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>>387198439
>female
>actual fighter
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>>387198182
They're all from training mode and showcase the combo potential/mechanics.

>Training mode?
Yes, because this game is probably the most action based MMO for some reason they added a training mode where you can practice combos on mobs, bosses, etc.

The only other MMOs I know that have a training mode are Blade & Soul and Dungeon Fighter Online. Also heavy action focused. Also, DFO has Dungeon practice mode too.
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>>387198482
She looks like she has downs.
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>>387186003
cause the west are failing as a people
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>>387188760
>Japanese
>mentally stable
Hah
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>>387198482
That shit looks way better that archeage's abominations
Please release soon
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>>387198594
>mechanics
What mechanics, all I see is a guy doing gorillion hit combos on a dummy. I never see anything of this game other than a guy beating on a dummy.
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>>387198705
>soon
lolno
the test server with bare minimum changes just went live. The final product is a ways off.
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>>387198602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fKqSfh7fR8

One of the preset of course.
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>>387196818
>DD:O

The second I tried Strider and got to use the fucking lasso, my dick exploded.
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>>387198130
>Final Fantasy XIV is SOOOO GOOD!!!
>Try it
>Stand in one spot
>Cast spell
>Do it again
>Can't dodge attacks or anything
>You just stand there and get whacked by the same animation and vise versa

I want every FFXIV shill in this thread to explain to me how this snorefest combat is so amazing to you that you even go the extra mile and PAY a monthly fee.
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>>387198921
what about when you got to use this?
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>>387190746
Ironically, what really draws female audiences is filling the cast with men. Attractive shirtless men in homoerotic subtext, but men nonetheless, not female characters.
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>>387197735
game???
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>>387197993

Game has a good character creator and music, but what's the actual gameplay? I don't mind grinding. In fact, I'd prefer an MMO that just had you kill enemies in an open world instead of more quest based crap. But the combat has to be good.
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>>387199076
kritika, it's pretty shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcrQnCythxA
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>>387198924
Basically I don't play mmos for the combat. I play action games for the combat. I play mmos once every few years for the story environment etc. I've never played an action game with combat that rivaled a good action game including Tera and BnS.
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>>387197993
>"Ivan, let us make massive multiple player online like final fantasies. First we make it, and then we start over. We will be success story like yo-sheep."
>"Viktor, we cannot afford that."
>"Then we make beta real bad and say we start over".

Fucking russkies.
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>>387199128
so its 3D DFO?
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>>387198924

standing still in higher level content is a pretty quick way to get killed, though the game is still pretty easy by that point
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>>387198924

But you do have to dodge cones. Of course you still take any other damage. It is a WoW clone after all.

As for why people pay for it, most don't. The game is like any other WoW clone. Tons of people join up during an expansion, rush through the content and unsub the next month.
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>>387199085
Typical action with tab targeting, but worse. It one of the to-do things when they're remaking it.
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>>387199164
bless is a korean mmo that's been in dev since at least 2011. The majority of the budget must've been put toward the handful of cinematic trailers they've released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouuhK7IQ_OQ
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>>387198138
I tried doing that but my computer was too shit
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>>387198862
Fuck
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>>387199128
>>387199273

yeah that looks a 3d dfo to me. kinda reminds me of rusty hearts too.
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I simply got tired of MMOs as I grew older. I became casual. I no longer have enough time to dump multiple hours into a game everyday. Yet with every second that passes without an MMO to immerse myself into, the more I want to find the one to dive into. I try them all out and quit in a few hours from all the MMO mechanics I get tired of instantly though.
>>
Any MMO to play in the current year? I just want qts
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>>387197993
>Character growth:
>It's hard for players to feel the changes even when they equip new items
>Players can barely feel the change after enhancing their gear
>It's difficult for players to enhance the items
Can only hope they don't go too far and wind up making everyone play walking armor sets with meat inside.

>Combat:
>There many skills for a class but they fail to interpret a class' unique characteristic and identity
>Too many inefficient techniques for a class
>Battle is frustrating
Solid things to work on, although that last sounds more like something a person trying to play video games for the first time in their life would say rather than actual feedback.

>Mounts and pets:
>Mounts, pets and servants lack of variety
>There's no reward from investing into mount / pet progression
>The training gameplay is not fun
Making 5 million varieties of horse for mounts is a cardinal sin in fantasy MMOs and I can only pray that they atone for their sins in time.

>Gathering and crafting:
>A lot of crafting products are useless
>Too many weird and useless materials and it's hard for players to gather what they want
First point applies to 98% of MMOs, and the second one can be okay when justified.
I doubt it was used well, but it could've been.

>UI and user experience:
>The UI isn't good enough help players to understand and play the game
Could go either way.
Shit UIs aren't uncommon, but neither are mouthbreathers that lack common sense.

Honestly, I just really want an MMO that isn't a tired IP or tab-target to get a decent following.
Not even close to WoW or FFXIV big, just to make a name for themselves.
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>>387200312
One of bless' gimmicks is that you can tame almost any mob to have as a mount or pet.
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>>387200312
>Shit UIs aren't uncommon, but neither are mouthbreathers that lack common sense.
It has auto run to quest location feature now
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>>387200416
So there's shit enemy variety or did they only count premade pets?
Also that sounds pretty dope.
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>>387186003
>pathetic nerd
>complains he cant jerk his wittle weener at animated women
>makes a thread to show everyone just how pathetic he is
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>>387200625
I dunno, I didn't mess with taming. I just know some had stats and gave bonuses like +2% exp.
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>>387193952
>They don't make MMOs anymore.
Doesn't stop the hundreds of korean mmo's that are still around and just because YOU don't play them(and mostly likely never heard of them) doesn't mean they aren't still around. Its because their market is so over saturated with the current ones lots going back from 10+ years that making any new ones is almost pointless since it's not like a lot of fan can just drop mmo's when they're done like single player games. The genre itself is just fucked.
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>asian MMO
loads of grinding, weird UI, cluttered with loads of complicated and P2W shit flashing at you all the time, clunky unresponsive servers and gameplay, questing can only be done by googling shit, playerbase are antisocial cliquelords

>western MMO
easy on grinding, tolerable amount to lvl, clean UI that's simple and easy to understand, good servers, good gameplay, P2W shit can be ignored, quests are easy and simple to understand and you don't need to google anything unless you are really stuck, playerbase usually friendly and open to help

why can't we have a balance between the two styles
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>>387200625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UuUWAo3_bg
There also a succubus as a pet.
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>>387200095
vindictus
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>>387200912
they are more focus on mobile now
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>>387188760
>as long as she is mentally stable

you arent even mentally stable with that delusion and all.
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>>387201105
It needs to have people playing in it to be an MMO anon
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>>387193595
If you actually played mmos instead of just whining about equality you would know male characters always get slutty clothes and people love using them.
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>>387196129
When I played a few years back it was one coupon per hairstyle. Hairstyles are items you equip.
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>>387197654

You already have all the information you need.

Do you really need to be spoonfed?
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Character creation is the most fun part of any MMO and the eastern ones typically do it better
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>>387201095
>There also a succubus as a pet.
welp time to buy the founders pack or whatever its called
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>>387188760
>asian women
>mentally stable
do you not know the stereotype
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>>387201090
>why can't we have a balance between the two styles
but everything you listed for the asian MMOs was negative
why do you want a balance between them
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>>387201469
source
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>>387201448
I got it over an hour ago you doink.
And all the information came after that post.
Good job on sucking though.
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>play modern MMO
>absolutely no interesting player races whatsoever

Last MMO I played with anything at all was the fucking original Everquest
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>>387201629
because despite the negatives, there's something addictive about asian MMOs. i can't put my finger on it.
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>>387201634
i forgot the source but know that its 100% a trap doujin
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>>387201629
So western mmo females will open boob plz
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>>387200912
This even post is filled with lack of awareness.
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>>387201709
It's called a skinner box, anon
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>>387200560
>It has auto run to quest location feature now
Nothing makes an MMO feel more cheap and grindy than that.
I still crack this open on rare occasions just to do some absolutely mindless grinding and I wouldn't mind an upgrade for that.
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>>387201898
skinner box with flashy anime tards in it

that has to be it.

so can't we have an MMO which is as refined as the western style, with the concentrated life-destroying essence inherent in asian ones?
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>>387201634
You should be familiar with this already, senpai

https://nhentai.net/g/36833/
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>>387196818
What the fuck did they do to Dragon's Dogma?
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>>387201281
so, which one has people and wafius?
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>>387197993

>Short hair on first option

MUH FUCKING DICK.
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>>387202090
thanks my man this is p hot
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>>387201467
>sliders barely change anything
>better
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>>387198976
It's all around a good feel.

Seeing the active reload on Archer was still the biggest shock.
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>Asian MMO
>Full Release with everything you'd expect from an Asian MMO
vs
>Western MMO
>In "Early Access" forever
>Shit on it
>"Dude, it's in Early Access, stfu faggot"
>In the end they just take your money and run
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>>387199023
more /fit/ and less women, as they don't play video games
its just fiterzens role playing girls and engaging in lesbo acts on one another
pretty interesting if it was a documentary but i dont need that shit in my face
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>>387191153
People can call the devs SJWs as much as they want, at least they let us wear sexy armors.
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>>387202687
you call THAT "sexy armor"?
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>>387202962
so what is sexy armor 2 u
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>>387202962
GW 2fags are brain damaged. This is a game where medium armor are nothing but trench coats, light and heavy are just minor alteration, and most of the new expansion drop exist in cashshop only, and they all clipped with each other. Oh and their transmutation system is a job. PVP is shit but the only reliable way to get them, compare to pve, which is a grind or spend cash on cash shop to get transmutation
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>>387202962
You don't have to be practically naked to be titillating. Besides if I wanted to look at naked people, that's what porn is for.
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>>387203232
Not him but for starter, your race is fucking shit.
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>>387203232
A strap-on, of course.
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>>387196569
>women
>fighting
you can make a simmilar image
>I'M STARTING TO QUESTION
>MY CHOICE OF NOT BEING WHERE WOMEN USUALLY ARE AT BECAUSE WE'RE PHYSICALLY INFERIOR TO MEN ON AVERAGE
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>>387201898
>skinner box
>A dude named Skinner invented it

It was fate. Fate!
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>>387202103
improved it
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>>387202687
>>387203232
He thinks that is sexy armor
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>>387203487
terrible
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>>387200560
>auto-run
I remember F2P browser MMOs having this feature.Has it made its way into bigger MMOs or is this the only one?
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>>387200095
GW2
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>>387203273
WvW is the easiest way to get transmutation charges now;it's ridiculously easier than queuing in pvp and you can just AFK while having attained enough participation points and get them.I got like 100 in 2 weeks.
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>>387202103
Slowed it down, made enemies damage sponges that take days to kill, made climbing worse, made the game boring, removed elf ears.
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>>387205057
>removed elf ears
wrong

>slowed it down
Seeker, Alchemist and Spirit Lancer all move significantly faster than any of the original classes, Warrior and fighter are the same (but with new skills and Warriors been buffed massively)

>damage sponges that take days to kill
yea if you're undergeared or shit

>climbing worse
it's literally the same
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>>387205057

Ennemies always were damage sponges in dragon dogma, you abusing buff items doesn't change that fact
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>>387187936
Secret world legends in general does not have a good character creator.
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>>387205627
>enemies were damage sponges in dragon's dogma unless you played the game correctly
mhmm
yup
seems to me like you're a retard
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>>387186003
>Western MMO
>In "Early Access" forever
>Shit on it
>"Dude, it's in Early Access, stfu faggot"
>In the end they just take your money and run

Name 2 noteworthy games that have done this.
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>>387205710
>having to carry 200 buff items with you and use 4 of them every fight is good game design
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>>387205710

Yeah, using out of combat consumables that make you completely invincible, have infinite stamina and kill everything in two hits sure seems like the "correct way" to play the game

Game is broken and you're a fucking idiot that doesn't understand shit about the way the game is designed
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>>387199085

The gameplay was a mess from the start. It started out as a tab-target game. Then the berserk class didn't use it the tab target, but still played like it. Then it ended up using some form of it. It's a huge clusterfuck. It's your typical quest-based MMO, they try to focus on PVP.

If you want a good MMO to cry over that'll never get localized over here, then Kingdom Under Fire 2 is it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTdt7zB0AxU
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>all the fedora tipping weeabs in this thread
Take a step back and listen to how pathetic you sound bitching about video games that you can't fap to. This is pathetic even by 4chan standards. Pretty par for the course by /v/ standards though.
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>>387205627
>Ennemies always were damage sponges in dragon dogma, you abusing buff items doesn't change that fact
Uh no, I play normally never using buffs and enemies are NEVER sponges not even fighting the red drake at level 20. DDO is just disgusting.

>>387205710
DDO fanboys are slimes.
>>
HOLY FUCK JUST TELL ME WHICH MMO HAS BIG FLOPPY MAN DICKS IN IT YOU FAGGOTS
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>>387205990
They've actually begun localizing it for NA/EU or so they claim. They expect it to be out sometime next year.
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>>387187657
>toon
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>>387206214
GW2 has big floppy wife ears
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>>387206547

I'll believe it when I see it. They've been saying for the past 3 years they're going to localize it and have a Playstation 4 version ready. I'm not holding my breathe. It's one of the few Korean MMO's that actually looks fairly decent.
>>
Maybe different humans have a broad spectrum of interests and tastes, so perhaps one universal art direction isn't the best idea.
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>>387199164
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>387192206
>western developers make ugly female characters
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>>387186680
Say thanks to blizzshit.
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>>387186589
>i've never met an asian girl or fuck any girl in my life but here's my opinion,
gooks and chinks are uglier fuck off. heck vietnamese are even worst.
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>>387205990
>>387206547
>>387207614
We are supporting the commander with the long range attack! i played the SEA server
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>>387203273
gw2 fags are brain damaged. That is all that needs to be said. Everything else is just a fucking cherry on top.
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>>387208218
SEA has been deader than dead for a long time. Chinese version still has active development. They just had a class added.
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>>387208317
yeah, i quit i a week(?) since that time the game implements korean stamina system where if you stamina finish, you will not gain exp.
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>>387186275
Then how come most male characters are tall, handsome and muscly while most male gamers are anything but.

Are women just more vain than men?
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>>387186003
>Why is this a thing?

look up feminism in asia. They got their crazy sjws and feminist turbo cunts, BUT the difference is the feminism club in asia is a 'pretty/successful' girls only club, and their HEAVILY favor traits like female beauty/femininity.

You won't see any transgender queer potatos in a korean/japanese feminist meeting, but rather a ton of young dolled up hotties and olderwomen dressed as sexy as they possibly can because they believe their looks give them power/are empowering.

As for regular women, they also like being cute/hot and playing characters that are cute/hot, and since the men arent trained by roasties to hate pretty girls, they also like attractive/cute characters in their games.
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>>387198482
>it's another 'the devs spent all the time and money on the character creator and forgot to make actual content so the game failed' kmmorpg
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>>387205703
case and point

>captcha
>select around the street sign
>it's the US flag
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>>387199864
im waiting for someone to start a nuclear war so the enviroment gets so shit that people are forced to stay in doors and the only entertainment is video games which forces hyper compition between developers which leads to real vr and then i can finally fullfill my life goal of dying in a video game.
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>>387204769
it's everywhere, and its cancer.
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>>387209441
>what is Megalia
https://www.koreabang.com//2016/features/the-rise-of-radical-korean-feminist-community-megalia.html
https://archive.is/hpSxb
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>>387192639
And people said Anita Sarkeesian and similar social commentators were harmless...
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>>387208627
>Are women just more vain than men?
yes, they literally put on make up and obsess over clothes because they constantly try to one up eachother, most men don't even give a shit how they look unless its for work. It's why fashion centric dudes are called metrosexuals, which sounds a whole like homosexuals to me
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>>387193980
>They complained and got a ton of special laws and free stuff to the point that they're actually surpassing men in many things.

Provide examples of things that SJW's complained about over the years that have since been rectified/equalized.
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>>387196818

Not debatable. DDO isn't even in the running because unless you're an asian fag you can't even play it without going through some dodgy localization bullshit first.
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>>387210226
Sorry sweetie, Mootykins needed that job at Google.
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>>387208627
Yes, they are.
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>>387210568
Did he even get a job at google?
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>>387210453
>get affirmative action jobs inthe 1990s
>keep jobs until you get senority
>now unqualified people are literally running departments/organizations/companies/ect

HR is a good example of this. it use to be a meme position you put your quota people into so your company could present itself as forward thinking. Now HR rules the peasents with an iron vagina.

Another example are the special rights and privileges for handicapped people, and with the definition of being handicapped having been radically expanded, tons of people recieve benefits and privileges they really shouldnt have. Handicap laws are used to bully and shut down small businesses, especially in rural areas that couldn't afford to remodel their busuinsesss to be handicap accessible. The so called transgender bathroom laws also seek to do this. Big businesses can afford to remodel a few bathrooms, small businesses typically cant. So supposedly progressive laws about equality really end up as a mechanism to put smaller businesses out of business because they cant afford the actual cost of physically changing their establishments.

a lot of well meaning enviromental laws have also left entire regions of rural/poor areas econmically destitute by making it impossible to expand business and industry. over half the state of california isnt owned by california due to it being 'taken' by the federal government under the faulty pretense of environmental protection. The federal government then turns around and gives/sells their holdings to private entities for various purposes. Handing over valuable timberland in northern california to 'native' tribes is a common occurrence. And those indians will clear cut those forests. However, it's illegal for regular residents to do that kind of thing. Not exactly fair, or environmentally minded. Shit, I could write essays on the hypocrisy of how the government gives in to the demands of the native tribes on the west coast for sjw reasons.
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>>387210813
yes
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>>387210565
>it doesn't count because it's mildly inconvenient to access
ok
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>>387197420
Awful
Did they finally add a muscle slider.
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>>387210363
It has been clinically proven that when it comes to functionality vs aesthetics, women favor aesthetics and men favor functionality. This has even popped up in consumer research where, for instance, they found that men want comfort and practical surroundings such as a table by their chair, where they can put their drink. Women on the other hand want to put things where they look pretty, even if it is not practical.
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>>387210947
Maybe you should write a book.
Like seriously, id buy it.
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>>387186003
>Why is this a thing?
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i thought we were gonna post characters?

>the wind is pushing meeeeeeeee
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>>387211552
Eww, she likes asslets.
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So, will Bless Online have anything going for it besides standard issue Korean waifus?
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>>387187573
her hand just goes through the rifle
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>>387197934

I thought that Evie being based off of a previous directors wife was known by everyone that frequented the old vindictus generals.
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>>387186003
I would do unspeakable things to Night Elves and Draenei so I don't know what the hell you are talking about.
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>>387186589
>tfw no chubby Japanese gf
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>>387210947
I bet you have this saved just for this occasion faggot.
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>>387186003
>Asian MMOs

All men look like 14 year ol twinks and all the races look like humans with different ears.

>Western MMO

Male characters look normal and non human races exist.


Guild Wars 2 is the only MMO that solved this problem by having both Western and asian artists and thus having slutty female characters and non twink male characters aswell as having at least one cool race in the game.
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>>387212898
Based on my observation on WoW and TERA online, i shall call thee a faggot.
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>>387196673
>blade and soul good combat

> korean rip off of retarded wushu chinese crap


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>>387186003
>Asian MMO
>shit gameplay
>Western MMO
>shit gameplay

i think i might be on to something here
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>>387201467
what game is this?
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>>387192206
I know this is true to some degree but everyone I know is Asian including me so it might have some affect considering we're not white cucks.
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>>387186003
christianity
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>>387212861
>ask a question
>get an answer you dont like

i know you saved that picture specifically for these occasions you faggot.
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>>387210947

Like, you didn't even actually address my post at all lol. Why even bother using it as a springboard for your diatribe?
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>>387214839

That post wasn't me retard
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>>387187657
>Toon
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>>387202687
>People can call the devs SJWs as much as they want, at least they let us wear sexy armors.
God knows how much hairpulling and teethpulling had to be done for you to get those breadcrumbs. And those garments fall flat because what makes sexy armors sexy is 90% the female character's body.
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It saddens me Blizzard are now going full SJW.
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>>387203487
This. They're really cherrypicking when it comes to realism.
>Virtual women in combat video games as strong as men?
A-okay!
>Are they half naked though?
Quickly, get the guillotine! There's subhuman men to be executed for misogyny!
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>>387206130
Shouldn't you sjw paladin of the light be on plebbit searching to identify nazi larping idiots in that charlottesville trainwreck? Your powers of good are better used there, i'm sure. Don't worry, we will still be here when you come back to preach down to from your high moral horse.

Now fuck off.
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>>387213214
>somehow thinks korea was completely isolated from chinese crap that wushu isn't also a part of their culture
Do you even know where the fuck S. Korea is and it's history with China?
>>
MMO players are subhumans
>getting hyped by generic action combat where combos are just cycling cooldown abilities without which you can't do shit and late game PvE is just stunlocking the boss solo
>or fucking action combat that still uses tab target
>falling for NEXON lies and supporting the sodomization by both publisher and developer of what was once a pretty beat'em up
>getting hyped by a generic character creator with THICCCCCC elves in a generic Korean MMORPG
>making a fucking thread to praise Korea because of that, pretending their MMOs are actually good or those thigh monstrosities with poorly designed armor are somehow sexy.
>Posting Vindictus screens of some slut instead of pure Evie and Lann
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>>387216412
>china does shit ton of wushu shit
>when korea does wushu it not shit

kys
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>>387216476
>Lann

Commit suicide, just like he did.
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>>387216059
>nazi larping idiots in that charlottesville trainwreck?

fug, is /pol/ on full damage control now?
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I enjoyed Teras Chad McHuge monstrosities, both female and male.
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>>387216662
Leave the wealthiest and whitest Lann NA alone
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>>387216728
He's well enough alone, six feet under.
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>This is your healer for tonight
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>>387216756
Fuck you. He will be forever remembered.
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>>387216476
MMOs are social games. Relax.

Most of us do not care about the bullshit you think you're calling us out on.
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>>387190690
>reddit tier trolling
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>>387216578
>so stupid he doesn't know that korea used to be a part of china
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>>387204310
game?
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>>387196886
>I bet you're the same faggot that laugh at Mario having a headache after hitting that first block.

Hahaha, yes, Mario and fantasy RPGs are totally going for the same level on realism.
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>>387216824
No one gives a shit if Goryeo and mongols fag, the point is wushu is trash and china has been milking that shit too long,
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>>387216775
Slut's uniform
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>>387216840
Blade and Soul.
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>Play a high fantasy game where people casually swing around swords the size of steel beams and shoot magic beams
>A woman successfully stabbing a man is going too far
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I am assured it's lack of skimpy armor that's preventing me from enjoying MMOs not actual gameplay.
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I wonder if this industry will ever outgrow its aggressively fabbing manchildren demographic.
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>>387216960
I want to lick that tummy
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>>387217094
what
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>>387217179
>>387217205
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>>387216930
I'm not responsible for your lack of basic history or your poor taste in games. That's all on you.
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>>387217448
>like wushu
>call other out on shit taste

cannot tell if your a gook defending gook products, or chink trying to defend muh culture
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>>387217179
There ya go. Flex that bigoted resentment.
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>>387217094
>Play a high fantasy game where people casually swing around swords the size of steel beams and shoot magic beams
>a woman wearing sexy armor is going too far
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>>387217524
>straw man argument
like I said. fucking stupid
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>>387193952
Don't forget Tree of Savior somehow is still a thing
Funny how RO is still doing better than his spiritual successor, made by the same guy too
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>>387217767
We're angry about why there isn't as much T&A in video games as there used to be.
... I'd say 'basement dweller' isn't reaching here.
Honestly, I don't understand how we can be pissed that people don't really take video gamers seriously while being mad that there are sliiightly less anime characters to beat your meat to.
Let's evolve, please. I'm not saying sexiness isn't a totally viable asset in a character and there are many things that I don't agree with with the latest SJW crazes but seriously - we need to outgrow this hunger for jiggle physics for the sole purpose of fab material.
I'm just embarrassed.
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>>387218563
good meme post I like it
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>>387218747

You just proved my point.
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>>387186003
But RIFT and GW's characters looked good for their times? Are there even any new western MMOs?
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>>387219556
albion online
but it's not even worth looking into
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>>387218920
Good meme post I like it
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>>387218563
You must be in pretty deep if you haven't yet realized that men have been jacking off to women since the dawn of fucking time. Ironically the process of evolving involves fucking.

Also if this is what gets you embarrassed then you seriously do not belong here.
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>>387219626
>the kike Albion devs don't offer refunds
>i wasted $30 on that pure dogshit

what a complete sham, I can't believe I was dumb enough to fall for it
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>>387196127
>aion
WHY
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>>387218563
>I'm just embarrassed.
Your little attempt at social shaming doesn't work on an anonymous imageboard. Maybe Reddit is more your speed? You can virtue signal there while also being rewarded with upvotes from your ideological echo chamber friends. Just saying.
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>>387187506
You're in luck. Dot hack GU remake coming december. It's also going to have a brand new 4th episode apparently? Perhaps I misread that somewhere, but I heard someone mention it'd have something new.
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>>387219658
You've misunderstood the post entirely.
'Evolving' doesn't refer to anything regarding biology... I'm not sure how you could have missed that.
I'm talking about one day moving beyond claiming gaming is more than a waste of time hobby, while, cock in hand, complaining that evil forces are pushing titties out of video games.
It's just plain ol' childish, dude, and we can do better.
You can have one without the other, really, if you like games with skimpy outfits there is no shortage what so ever. But this thread is talking about how modern game devs are destroying gaming in general and you just can't do that with a straight face, when what you're actually referring to is that you want to see more softcore hentai porn.
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>>387193595
lmao no, it's about business, that's bad business honey.
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>>387206130
Fucking newfags.
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>>387197552
Armor wouldn't stop the sword anyway, I might as well just dodge.
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>>387219945
You have got to start throwing back a real argument here, son.
Wait... aren't you creating an echo chamber by refusing to communicate with someone who disagrees with you?
I don't understand anymore, you guys seem to want to have real discussions (I mean, you post endless speeches about how much you hate SJW's... and you're on an imageboard), but you refuse to put in the work once you actually need to.
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>>387220238
>>387218563
>we need to outgrow this hunger for jiggle physics for the sole purpose of fab material.
I'm just embarrassed.
Why? I'm not allowed to like what I like? Just listen to yourself.
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>>387205779
Ark and Dark and Light

:^)
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>>387220471
>You can have one without the other, really, if you like games with skimpy outfits there is no shortage what so ever. But this thread is talking about how modern game devs are destroying gaming in general and you just can't do that with a straight face, when what you're actually referring to is that you want to see more softcore hentai porn.
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>>387186589
>Not sure about rest of Asia, but Japanese ones are ugly as fuck for the most of them

Oh boy, to us Japanese women are gods. I 'm an SEAfag and we have to deal with Pinoys and Indos and Thais. It's basically a meme that if you see an attractive Thai girl, it's probably a man after surgery.

And Koreans without plastic surgery are even worse than the Japanese girls.
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>>387218563
> we need to outgrow
>we
So you want to change preferences of others to fit your own?
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>>387220818
As I said, there is no shortage of softcore porn video games, and that's all fine. The problem is that as soon as you claim that this development towards less softcore porn in video games is some sort of witch hunt against the middleaged male fabber. Then we are talking more general terms about the industry as a whole. And that's why I believe that I can say, yes, we need to outgrow this notion that someone is out to get us and our hardons.
I have absolutely no problem with sexual games, I do however have a problem with claiming that lack of sexual games is some kinda plot against humanity - that is downright childish and yes, should be outgrown.
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>>387220385
>Wait... aren't you creating an echo chamber by refusing to communicate with someone who disagrees with you?
What do you think i'm doing right now? I am communicating with you.
You seem confused. You seem to believe that someone communicating with you means them agreeing with you and if they do not agree that means there is an echo chamber.
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>>387221412
Saying 'you should try Reddit' isn't exactly trying, dude, come on...
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>>387221214
there are plenty of numale games for you
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>>387221214
>The problem is that as soon as you claim that this development towards less softcore porn in video games is some sort of witch hunt against the middleaged male fabber.
There lies your problem. Instead of asking for more "less softcore porn" games, you're asking for less softcore porn games. Which is why nobody buys your
>I have absolutely no problem with sexual games

You clearly do have an issue.
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>>387221506
>Saying 'you should try Reddit' isn't exactly trying, dude, come on...
I'm just setting boundaries of what is acceptable. If you're here to shame people you can fuck off. It's not very complicated.
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>>387221506
He is correct in noting your conversational tactics and has no obligation to either agree with or be polite to you.

>...
Neck yourself.
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>>387208147
Her hair and glasses are really cute.

I understand land whales and such, but why does everyone have the idea that if they aren't a 10/10 model, they are ugly? Average looking girls are still beautiful, and they warm the heart as opposed to hotter ones that are less humble.
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>>387221214

>I have absolutely no problem with sexual games, but nobody should ever complain about the lack of them or ask for more, because that's just embarassing and we want video games to be taken seriously right, fellow gamers?
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>>387198130
The problem with action combat mmo is that they requiere a fairly low ping to perform anything good in end game.
And in murrica it's impossible to give everyone low ping unless they put the servers in the middle but somehow companies prefer going for west coast only.
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>join guild
>xD
>;D
>;)
>! at the end of every sentence
fuck mmos
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>>387196127
What is it about Maple Story that's kept it alive for nearly 20 years?
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>>387221592
Hmm, I kinda see your point, but I don't see how the two things can't coexist. My question is - I have no problem with sexual games, but why does this demographic of 'sexual gamers' (whatever you wanna call it) have a problem with non/less/whatever-sexual games, as if someone is trying to fight it (admittedly some are, but I don't agree with them), when really it's probably just a sign that more and more people are getting into games, which was something we used to relish the idea of.
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>>387209775
>it ends like in fallout instead
>electricity and net permanently out, you're forced to interact with normies in post-apocalyptic feudal like society.
better get ready to wake up at 4 am, the fields need to be plowed again. unless you live in a city, then you'll just die or end up as a slave on some wealthy baron's farms, doing the exact same thing as the farmer, but for someone else, not for yourself.
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>>387222164
^^
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>>387191285

the developer is as american as you can be
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>>387222174
Cash shop and whales.
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>>387221689
Right.... that's my point.
No devs have to agree with you and cater to your fetish.
And there are no tactics here. No one is out to get you.
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>>387222386
>>387191387
they still have to answer to their corean overlords
they cant make their own decisions
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>>387221682
Oh, okay, I didn't realise you were trying take the high road with you passive aggressive Reddit-comment.
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>>387187657
>toon
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>>387218563

>I don't understand how we can be pissed that people don't really take video gamers seriously

One, I'm not pissed about that. Video games are entertainment, I don't need my time spent on them to be validated by outsiders as some activity of high culture when they aren't that. Two, that's not even true. Video games dominate internet video platforms, fighting games are on ESPN, and the industry is making more money than god. All this "we" shit you're spouting makes me think you've confused this website with neoGAF.
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>>387210226
>if you just ignore them they will go away
>>
So how is Stormblood? Was thinking of resubbing.
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>>387197072
>battle of agincourt
>wear full plate
>longbow arrows go through it like butter anyways
Might as well run around like those celtic savages.
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>>387222570

that's not how it works you retard, the publisher just looks at the revenue of the game and decides if they will fund them further, if the game tanks they will take direct action and kill it, that's it.
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>>387222207
>but I don't see how the two things can't coexist
They can. It's called the plurality of the market. There's products for everybody as long as there is an financial interest supported by the market.

> I have no problem with sexual games
I think you do.
>but why does this demographic of 'sexual gamers' have a problem with non/less/whatever-sexual games
You're starting from a false premise. Nobody on this board or wherever has a problem if a product isn't catering to their specific needs. What they have a problem with are politically informed design decisions which encroach on their slice of the pie, namely what you call "softcore porn" games. And it's not even that really. There are some people that will only buy the games to jack off to the characters, but that's a small minority. What people like me have an issue with is the previously mentioned design decisions which at the very first glace reek of the typical envy and pettiness characteristic of feminist advocacy groups which started to infiltrate the culture years ago.

>when really it's probably just a sign that more and more people are getting into games, which was something we used to relish the idea of
This bit of your post is really weird. You are equating more people getting into videogames with the clearly ideologically influenced push of feminism. I never cared about the size of my hobby. This makes me think you're a woman. Only women care about social acceptability, which is found in numbers. In fact larger numbers usually means the watering down of any sort of art based product due to the publisher's efforts of catering to more interests. If you try to please everybody, you please nobody.
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>>387222805
More of the same shit.
Will keep you busy for a week or so.
If you think that's worth the price, go ahead.
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>>387222207

>when really it's probably just a sign that more and more people are getting into games, which was something we used to relish the idea of

>we

Where did you get the idea that this is something the majority of /v/ ever wanted? And how do you not understand why people who like a certain type of content would be unhappy with that content disappearing? The way you approach this topic is really baffling, do you have Asperger's or something?
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>>387222973

>im rich you know
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>>387222669

One, I knew this would come up, but as soon as you want to expand this conversation beyond anything other than 'look at dem tits', you want to be taken seriously. You can't both claim to be just another simple nice guy that wants the titty action and write a three page essay on how you miss the good old days.
I'm not saying you are, I'm addressing the thread.
Two, if that's true then it can't also be true that devs need to bring more sex into games for them to not tank, as someone was claiming. And again - that just proves how many people are getting into videogames that don't need the sex appeal for them to be interested, again disproving that the game world >needs< sex or is lame without >always< forcibly including hot chicks, and finally - that games truly belong to everyone now. Not just nerds that like cartoon porn, me included, and that we need to let new devs do their thing if we don't want to become a complete parody of ourselves. But that's another point.
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>>387222981
>Nobody on this board or wherever has a problem if a product isn't catering to their specific needs. What they have a problem with are politically informed design decisions which encroach on their slice of the pie, namely what you call "softcore porn" games
So you're whining not because the game doesn't cater to your specific needs but because it doesn't cater to your specific needs because the developers are in part feminists. I fail to differentiate
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>>387222981
>>387223094
I guess I'm just referring to not having many people to talk about video games with, which sucked in grade school. Don't confuse it with some desperate attempt at acceptance.

>What they have a problem with are politically informed design decisions which encroach on their slice of the pie, namely what you call "softcore porn" games.

This I totally agree with. But many people seem to believe that because a character isn't hot, that means feminists build it. And that's not true. If you make a game about a weird aztec barbarian chick, it is totally acceptable to also want her to look like one, something a looot of people on this board seem to have a problem with.

>There's products for everybody as long as there is an financial interest supported by the market.
By this logic no one has anything to complain about, right? Whether it be more or less skimpy games or whatever, it's all just the market doing it's thing. Less skimpy games means less users.
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>>387223242

How is referencing a bunch of posts I didn't make and claiming my post is inconsistent with them a valid response in your mind? What in the fuck are you even talking about here?
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>>387190182
damn that chick is hot
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>>387223768
It's not. It's difficult to have a somewhat open discussion when everyone is anonymous, sure.
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>>387223648
>I fail to differentiate
That's really on you then.

>>387223242
Who exactly needs to be taken seriously? The market is fragmented in hundreds of specific niches. Try to apply your (faulty) logic to movies. Can movies not be taken seriously if there are pornographic flicks out there? Or if in certain movies there are sexual elements? The more you talk the more it smells like sex negative feminist in here, regardless of your attempts to paint yourself as one of us.

> it can't also be true that devs need to bring more sex into games for them to not tank, as someone was claiming.
At most it doesn't matter. Really. Normal people don't recoil in shock horror at the sight of bared skin or revealing clothing. Only ideologues do. You should know what type.

>that just proves how many people are getting into videogames that don't need the sex appeal for them to be interested
If they don't need sex appeal to be interested, then they won't not be interested with the sex appeal. Two way street.

>and finally - that games truly belong to everyone now
They always did. The only thing stopping them from belonging to everyone was those individuals who prevented themselves from participating.

>Not just nerds that like cartoon porn, me included
Please drop the act, nobody is buying.

>we need to let new devs do their thing if we don't want to become a complete parody of ourselves.
We, we, we WE. Who are you talking about? This reeks of a collectivist mindset. That other guy said you're from NeoGaf. I'm starting to believe this is true, in which case i'm wasting my time here. You can't argue with ideologues.
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>>387198851
kek, this
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>>387213440
TERA using either xTera or some other tool to change values.
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>>387224294
>Can movies not be taken seriously if there are pornographic flicks out there?
Nobody takes pornographic flicks seriously but everyone wants serious movies and pornographic flicks separated. Even weebs sometimes get annoyed by weird H scenes ruining their VNs. I am not even talking about Nasu's 10/10 writing.

Korean armor design in particular is really fucking atrocious. Doesn't help that they barely even supply any fashion for males that isnt' shitty wings and emo nakes sixpack dark angel outfit. It's even worse than WoW's mega pauldrons.
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Don't impose your values or types.
Just Present it.
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>>387224681
You are once again talking on behalf of other people
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