Fuck Sega for delaying the PC version by more than 2 weeks to

cry harder fag

>>387180294
The only thing that could make it worse is if they implement anticheat to block mods.

this really needed its own thread and couldn't have been posted in the current sonic mania thread

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>>387180294
>I have the power
>let me show you what it's all about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjOJuPjiu4

>>387180509
cringe

>>387180609
This

Why can't PC owners handle disappointments like adults

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Sounds like a PCfag problem.

>>387180738
Seriously. Its sucks but at least we're getting it.
I dont mind waiting a little longer, I could buy it on the switch or ps4 but Id rather have it on pc

>>387180738
because pc players can take matters into their own hands instead of giving sony a $60 annual tribute in hopes they'll do something.

>>387180829
>so I'll take what's mine and start this war
>(I'm coming at you like a tidal wave)

>>387180829
You mean acting like crying faggots while accomplishing nothing

>>387180509
Nothing can top that theme this year, it's already a timeless masterpiece.

>>387180294
K

>>387180509

Chester would've been proud.

>>387180486
The biggest Mania thread currently up here was hijacked by Sony and Nintendo partisans yelling at each other. The handful of others are just e-celebs giving their two cents.

>>387180486
>>>387180486
>couldn't have been posted in the current sonic mania thread


No, cause they are arguing over which consoles are better like idiots.

>caring about sonic autism
lol

>>387180509
I just hope this nontroversy at least opens people's eyes to how much bullshit Sega spews, especially when it comes to PC.

>first, Sega releases Yakuza Zero and Persona 5 shortly after it
>they shoot down ANY possibility of those ever coming to PC
>then Future Tone is released
>they immediately shoot down a PC release by bringing up "licensing issues"
>then they release Azure Revolution, a game that's a huge spit in the face of PC gamers when they have been cited as the reason why the IP was revived and why this game was made
>the game is critically panned worldwide, but unlike the others it has a chance of getting a PC version because of course, that's how Sega works
>then they release Puyo Puyo Tetris for LITERALLY every platform except PC
>two dead platforms like the Wii U and the Xbone got the game but not a platform Sega claimed numerous times to be their "most profitable"
>and now, literally a week before release, they mention that the PC version of Sonic Mania will be delayed by two weeks
>this is just in 2017
>to further rub salt in the wound, Sega continues to port ancient last gen games that no one ever asked for
>and then have the audacity to call PC gamers port beggars

>>387180294
Fuck off pcvck /v/ isn't for you

>>387180826
>it only hurts if you let it

>Have 5 hour flight tomorrow
>Bought Mania on Switch


Boys i can't wait to get comfy.

>>387182153
I'm playing it in bed right now and it's comfy as fuck, have a nice flight.

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>>387180294

>>387180991
Seem to work for gta5 attempting to ban mods.

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>>387180829
PC KEKS ACTUALLY THINK STEALING MEDIA CHANGES THINGS HAHAHA

Why don't you just get it on the Switch anon

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>>387180829
>>387184256
Pic related, it's what PC keks actually do

On their knees lmao

>>387180294
im going to buy it and then pirate it 4 times anyways
thats 4 lost sales for only a single purchase

>>387184525
What do you mean pirate 4 times? That doesn't make any sense
It's not a lost sale if you still buy it

>>387180509
Just by looking at this I know this was from /r/pcmasterrace, and I can bet it was upvoted to hell

>>387184613
I've already prepared a script to pirate the game endlessly. Once it's unleashed, Sega will have to pay me to stop.

>>387181665
Thats enough to get me to never support Sega again. Fuck them

>>387184750
>new IP
hmm...

>look for gameplay
>everyone is shit at blue sphere
Seriously, even my 6-year-old self did better.

>>387184750
But that's not them losing a sale
Them losing a sale would be someone who was going to buy or had interest in buying but ended up pirating instead

i wish they would have released it to last gen, i would have pirated it on my ps3 :^(

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>>387180294

Not waiting two weeks, just bought a ps4 pro for this. Better be good.

>>387180294
Same

Wow, the OVA is really dumb. (Hyper) Metal Sonic was cool as fuck though.

>>387180738
We did by refunding the damn game.

>>387184256
When people started boycotting Capcom a few years back Capcom started making things right

>>387186585
brazil shitter detected deploying favela fighting force

>>387186585
>POLO
JAJAJAJAJAJAJA ME CAGO EN TU PUTO NOMBRE HIJO DE PUTA

>>387184676
You need to go back

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If this shit comes out and has a shit ton of bugs but still has DRM I'm gonna bomb Iizuka's house

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Who's willing to bet that this is just a knee jerk reaction to them finding out that Initial D Arcade Stage 6 was cracked to work on PCs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKRAzruPfjI

>sir, those pesky PC gamers have cracked Arcade Stage 6!
>you mean the Japan only, arcade only game from 2011!
>HOW DARE THEY CUT INTO OUR PROFIT

This is totally something Sega would do.

Do Steam pages state if games have stuff like Denuvo? Should keep an eye out for changes if so.

I just hope the game can still be modded. I want my playable Metal Sonic dammit.

>>387181665
>>and then have the audacity to call PC gamers port beggars
But they are senpai, they ask for every console and even portable game nowadays, probably because they don't want to play shoot bang moba rts indie shits, I don't blame them.

Also, what is with the auto changing of f am to senpai? It doesn't even make fucking sense!!!

>>387187054
I'm not sure if they actually state what DRM it has, but they do usually mention that it at least has some form of DRM, or it uses third party software ala UPlay.

>>387187057
Sega is to blame for this port begging attitude.

>oh hey, here are some lukewarm scaps from 6 years ago
>ports it to PC
>please sir, may we have some more?
>wooooow, fuck you entitled pieces of shit

>>387187054
yes
it'll say something like "incorporates third party DRM: denuvo anti tamper" somewhere on the store page if it does

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>>387187254
>>wooooow, fuck you entitled pieces of shit
Did they say this? LOL!! Holy Shit!!

>>387187254
>>387187370
Alright, yeah. Someone already noticed they updated the page with full controller support, so we'll see if something about DRM pops up.

>>387187143
baka desu senpai
how new are you

>>387184946
it really is pretty awful

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I thought pc users were used to getting games late by now.

I-It'll be on the nintendo eshop at midnight, r-right bros?

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oh shit

>>387187543
>how new are you
Old enough to know it didn't do that shit then moot was still around, what gives?

>Already completed the game
>PCfags this upset

This is fucking hilarious

Seriously, do you not have at least one other console?

>>387187430
Not particularly, but they have made it clear on public forums and the sonic twitter about "port begging", and they also had a tongue-in-cheek subject field wherein people were asked to "beg for games to be ported to PC".

>Amazon delays the CE by two days
Thank god i cancelled my impulse buy because I didnt get release date shipping like they promised

>>387187654
Whoa, even if you're joking that's not alright. Someone died in Virginia yesterday due to domestic terrorism. I'd delete your post if I was you before someone reports it as a legitimate threat to the FBI.

>>387186718
>We did by refunding the damn game.

Oh my god he hasn't seen it >>387184473

>>387187729
>being a cuckold
no thanks. i don't want to be chained down to a specific company's platform.

These morons don't seem to realize that PC ports are much harder to debug that consoles because PC's literally have thousands of possible configurations that can cause all sorts of problems.

What would you guys have rather? They release the game buggy? Cause after Arkham Knight I don't think that shit's gonna fly anymore.

>>387187879

>He doesn't buy portable consoles

Geez, I can't imagine having missed the DS and 3DS's libraries. They're some of the best out there

>>387187639
Yes.

>>387187749
What game did they have issue with the port begging? Also, fans need to stomp Sega of America's nutsack for not porting PSO 2 but acted like it was a possibility, fucking cocksuckers.

>>387180294
I never thought I'd be that guy, but today I'm that guy. If you pirate Sonic Mania, you're a shit head who wants this franchise in the garbage bin.

>>387187729
>pre-order the collector's edition for PC
>get real excited to play the 15th
>told 4 days before release that you bought a giant piece of paperweight for two weeks
>possibly to add DRM
>no time to switch editions
I do have a PS4 and given the seemingly high quality of the game I'm fine getting two copies, but I'm still pretty fucking peeved they did this when they did.

Is the OST available in full yet?

>>387188190

Currently being uploaded

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRUCFIChp4wabzhWRGiLq9Q/videos

>>387186585
>gamesfull.org

>>387188190
Nope, it's getting there though.
All the boss themes and the zones up to Flying Battery are up.

>>387187910
>These morons don't seem to realize that PC ports are much harder to debug that consoles because PC's literally have thousands of possible configurations that can cause all sorts of problems.

It's all intel, amd, and nvidia. And everything is higher level than its ever been and machine specific problems are rare these days.

Meanwhile on the switch port (handled by a 3rd party), the mean bean boss can kill you every time you win and press garden act 2 crashes when you use fire shield on ice cubes. Tell me how the PC version is supposed to be worse and not releasable when it's the main platform handled internally.

>>387188386
citation needed

>>387187910
>These morons don't seem to realize that PC ports are much harder to debug that consoles because PC's literally have thousands of possible configurations that can cause all sorts of problems.

Then how, pray tell, can I play a game made a DECADE AGO, that hasn't been updated since then, just fine on hardware that didn't even exist back then? How can I play Earthworm Jim for Windows 95 just fine on my Windows 8 PC? That's the biggest lie in the book, at best PC optimization comes down to making the base code utilize multiple threads/cores, making it light weight, and optimizing for AMD and nVidia specific shaders.

>>387187998
Pretty much anything, really. I think this was back when they said that they have "so many games, so little time" and probably older titles like JSRF or Skies of Arcadia.

>>387188110
>you're a shit head who wants this franchise in the garbage bin.

No that's sega for backing out of a promise days before showtime to implement DRM and/or delay piracy

If you buy this game on PC, you're a cuck

>>387188482
just because it's 2D doesn't mean it's not prone to bugs or glitches.

>>387188509
>If you buy this game on PC

Why would you not get it on Switch? You get the same experience but with portability

>>387188480
I don't care if you don't understand technology, I'm just making sure no one hear believes your nonsense

>>387188589
because i want to play at 60+ fps

>>387188568

There's actually a 'soft lock' glitch in the game already during the 'final' boss. Got suck and had to wait out the 10 minute timer

>>387180294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY5KTVA_2ys

>>387187797
>Oh noez anon that's politically incorrect
Fuck off you shitter
>>>/r/eddit/

>>387188589
>Why would you not get it on Switch?

Oh my god anon you're right. I totally forgot you bought me one.

theme of console owners:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WtwJPEJCA0

>>387187865
Who gives a shit you fucking autist?
I refunded the game and that's all I care about

>>387188613
I do care if you're not going to post sources, otherwise your just spewing BS

>>387188727

>He didn't buy a Switch

lol. Then you deserve all this for your poor life choices

>>387188703
inciting terrorism is not only politically incorrect, it's a felony.

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>>387187640
What did they mean by this?

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>>387188568
Again, tell me how I can play the PC port of Earthworm Jim two decades later on multiple generations of hardware in the future? This is also a 2D game?

>>387188782
Sources on what? How the PC platform works or the glitches?

The glitches happened on big jon's stream

>>387186585
it's not there yet fuck off

>>387188798
No you idiot a felony is when you actually commit an act
Back to >>>/reddit/ with you you commie faggot

>>387180294
I thought Sega were the ones that gave the least amount of fucks about DRM and the like.

>>387188772
>(I won't stop until they know my name)

>>387188936
the act here is declaring to bomb a game developer's building.
i already reported him anyway just to make sure he doesn't go through with his declaration.

>>387187972
You can emulate those
The Switch is a failure as a handheld anyways

>>387180294
Oh glad you canceled your preorder. I was on the fence about this game before, now gonna 100 percent buy it after I get back from work. Get fucked, pirates.

>>387180294
I'm only going to pirate if they actually are adding DRM. I can accept a delay since there are apparently some pretty big bugs in the game and anons have reported bad collision and softlocks in places. If they add DRM then that makes it clear their main intent was to "punish" PC fags because of the Switch version getting leaked. I honestly want to buy Mania because of how good it looks, so hopefully Sega doesn't let me down and keeps the game DRM-free.

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>>387188943
>"PC is our most profitable platform!"
>"PC ports a very profitable for us!"
>"We are looking forward to support PC more in the future!"

>"By the way, be sure to buy Yakuza Zero, Persona 5, Puyo Puyo Tetris, Project Diva, Azure Revolution, and Sonic Mania!"
>"None of which are on PC!"

What did Sega mean by this?

>>387187910
>Being this clueless
Please...just stop

>>387188568
Seriously shut the fuck up you shill

did pc version leak yet

>>387180294
It's on the eshop now for ukfags

>>387188656
You won't be able to do that since the game is locked to 60fps which is dumb
You're an idiot if you don't think the Switch couldn't run this 240p game at higher than 60

Heck all of the consoles could easily run this game at 1000+ fps too bad we don't have 1000hz displays

>>387189005
Again
Back to >>>/reddit/ newfag

its out? fuck, finally, now the threads can finally die. cant wait for about a week for it to turn into one thread a month

>>387188656
inputs tied to frame rate for almost all the sonic games, basically, itll break the game. an example would be the timer being based on a set rate, and going 120 fps could for example half the timers length

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>>387187797
Someone died to negligence, the guy was just trying to flee the angry mob of Antifa members who were breaking other people's windshields. If you watch the video of the hit the dude had his parking break on, then someone whacked the back of his car and he panicked and floored it.
The dude committed manslaughter but he didn't commit murder.
>>387187729
I have a Wii U and PS3. I refuse to get a PS4, or any Microsoft console because they all have paid online. There have been rumors that Nintendo is going to nix paid online since they already delayed it but I'm not buying their console until they officially say "okay we're not doing paid online" and if they don't do it then they aren't getting my $300.

This meltdown is absolutely fucking hilarious. Officially can't take PCfags seriously after this

>>387187729
I have a PS4. What I don't have is $26 CDN to spend on a fucking ROM hack in 2017.

>>387189712
Taxman's engine doesn't work that way and neither does any modern engine made by people who aren't morons

It's probably frame locked because muh sega saturn

>>387189767
You consolecucks really are pathetic

>platform where everyone will pirate the game
>FUCK THEM FOR DELAYING THE GAME TO TRY AND PROTECT THEMSELVES
as if you would have bought it in the first place you hypocritical fuck

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>>387189879
>taxmans engine isnt made that way
>oh but its locked to 60 fps for nooooo reason at alllll

>>387180294
Why people are so hyped for this shit ? its literally the same game i played in 1987 aprox so what the fuck?

>>387190054
A lot of modern game engines are frame rate capped, and yeah, for no reason at all. It's probably because they just don't care to change a multiplat for the PC platform.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_timing

For those waiting for the OST Hydrocity Act 1 is up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh2Szt0g1nY

>>387189879
I am so sick of 2D pixel games having locked 60fps framerate. Especially games like Mania which advertise it as a fucking selling point.

These kind of games should have at least an algorithm for 60 x [insert number here] so you can run the game at 960fps or higher.

I'm sick of these cunts not future-proofing their games. There's no reason why in 2017 we have to be limited to 60fps for low demanding sprite games like this

With 120fps we'd be able to play this game the way it's supposed to be played on Lightboost Monitors with no fucking motion blur...BUT THESE FUCKING IDIOT LOCK THE FRAMERATE AT 60FPS SO WE HAVE TO USE BFI TO EFFECTIVELY STROBE AT 60FPS AND LOSE A TON OF BRIGHTNESS AS A RESULT

120fps option would even benefit consoles too because more and more newer TV's have the ability to refresh at 120hz

>>387190054
It's locked to 60fps for the same reason all indie pixel games are. The devs aren't aware there's demand for higher framerates for these kind of games.

>>387190039
Steam players buy their fucking games. People are refunding their potential purchases because Sega decided that they'd rather keep PC players on the back burner for 2 weeks to forcibly add a non-solution to a non-existent problem, and which will probably complicate any idea of modding or in worst cases ruin performance what with the extra memory Denuvo requires. A hipster rehash of old Sonic levels will lag on a toaster? Fuck that.

>>387190273
>120fps option would even benefit consoles too because more and more newer TV's have the ability to refresh at 120hz

Usually for TVs the 120hz is only for interpolation and it can't actually display a 120hz signal from an external source. Its a scam.

>>387190039
Fuck you
I pre-ordered this shit 2 months ago before I refunded it after the delay got announced

Kill yourself you fucking shill

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>>387190225
change? change what? if its not tied to the frame rate, what would it matter? unless...

>>387190362
lol now thats a citation id like to hear

Why people are so hyped for this shit ? its literally the same game i played in 1987 aprox so what the fuck?

When's it gonna be on EU PSN? I wanna play REEEE

>>387190543
nostalgia. it wasnt even that great of a game back then but its peoples first game/games so this sorta pandering is gonna be around till they die.

>>387190434
No, I'm talking about TV's that support real 120hz
Some of the new 4K OLED's or Quantum Dot LCD's out there have it

It's just disgusting man. We have all this power in our PC's/Consoles nowadays to run these low res sprite games at 2000 or even 3000fps if we want to and these fucking devs pull this shit with us.

In 10 years 1000hz displays might become mainstream and we all will want to play Mania at 1000fps

ITT: People being children over a small nuisance as per norm for /v/.

>>387190509
Nobody ever asks for framerates when it comes to 2D indie pixel games because they're satisfied with 60. This is why devs don't even bother..even though it's such a simple thing to implement really.

>>387190613
what a bunch of idiots, i played it a few months ago online in some sega web page games for nostalgia, fucking idiots it is a 1980 game, wake up idiots, hitler was right he did nothing wrong sheeeps

>>387190269
And here's Act 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge6hqMK4iXc

>>387190613
>Nostalgia
>When one of the most recurring complaints about the game is that it reuses zones instead of using more new ones (like the four already in the game).

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>>387190798
right, but if it wasnt tied to the frame rate, it would be a simple ini change or a single value change, simple. unless....

>>387190825
>being so assblasted someone thinks your 1987 game is outdated you literally equate anyone who criticizes it as a hitler apologist

>>387190827
Not much changed about Hydrocity Act 2's theme apart from the instruments and honestly I'm pretty ok with that.

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BEST THEME COMING THROUGH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYj1GbbQr4w

>>387190509
>change? change what? if its not tied to the frame rate, what would it matter? unless...

Look I don't know the non-reason somebody doesn't do something. I just know that good and common programming practices use delta time to prevent the exact problems you're talking about. Baby's first unity game can use delta time. Tieing the game logic to frame speed is FULL RETARD. That's all I need to tell you. And It isn't just for high frame rates. Delta time keeps the game speed consistent during frame drops, which is actually important for games that aren't pixel art. Everything uses it now.

>>387190827
exactly. the only reason so many people are interested in it is because "i remmmemmmber it", but when it comes to ACTUALLY playing it, they are painfully aware of how boring and uninteresting it is unless you change it up.

theres a reason these games are niche and once a blue moon now: its old, outdated, and if you really wanted to play the original game, you CAN, very easily.

but your not.

>>387190827
I wish they'd do Metallic Madness first. That one changed way more than Lava Reef.

>>387190984
It might work a bit differently in 2D games since animations might look a bit jarring at uneven framerates in 2D but they could easily implement a "60fps times [insert number here]" type algorithm where everything becomes faster/slower by the amount of number you entered to compensate for the higher framerate

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>>387191091
lol. and what im telling you is that the vast majority of sonic games are full retard, and this game, being made by a bunch of newbies whos experience is the modding community are DEFINITELY professio-oh, wait, lol.

>nah man they were smart enough to program the game specifically so frame rates dont matter...buttt....forgot to not limit it to 60 fps. totally bro

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>>387191089
Wrong link anon.
https://youtu.be/nZVSqQaRJfQ

>>387191130
Have you even seen footage of this game? The boss battles alone are beyond anything else in the 2D Sonic games.

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>>387181665
>No one asked for Bayonetta and Vanquish
Are you out of your fucking mind? The whole time I was playing Vanquish it was wishing it was on PC instead, fuck you.

>>387191130
Not only do you not know how to spell, you're completely fucking wrong in every aspect. The original games are brilliant on their own, nostalgia or not. I just played them for the first fucking time and the physics and level design are incredibly fun. You're trying way too hard to turn this into a 1-tone conversation.

>>387190984
>it would be a simple ini change or a single value change, simple.

It really would. And higher frame rates actually increase precision of things like collision. It would have less bugs.

You should ask taxman why the PC version is frame capped.

>>387191091
2D pixel games all lock their framerates. 2D games work differently than 3D although they could have still done something similar to this to enable higher framerates >>387191248

>>387191091
physics calculations become exponentially more complex without a constant framerate though, the the point of involving things like integral calculus

3D games have a fixed physics tick decoupled from the framerate, since there's a substantial amount of non-physics logic that can easily be made smoother, like camera rotation and interpolated animations

2D games like Sonic mania are pretty much all physics and fixed-framerate animations

ergo, the gains to be had using a separate physics tick are minor

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>>387190362
I'm sure it's because there's not a whole lot of motion you can convey with a low-res 240p image. Like, let's say Sonic moves at 1 pixel per second at 60FPS, or 60 pixels per second. How would that work at 120FPS? He would only move every other frame?

>>387191310
And before they did that, they ported A-Lister titles like Valkyria Chronicles, Typing of the Dead, and Sonic Lost World. Games everyone and their mother asked for.

>>387191267
right, the parts they change are the parts people like because its NOT like playing the original sonic.

>>387191317
>your just wrong
>and my only argument is your spelling, on a Taiwanese shoe repair image board
oh. uh, well, since thats your argument, no...your wrong.

Since it's delayed by two weeks, that gives me enough to go back and play the older ones. I've actually never finished a sonic game, and I think the only I've ever played was the shitty PC port of the first game. Which 2D Sonic games are must-play ones? 1-3 is probably pretty obvious but what about Sonic CD?

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>>387191335
because its tied to frame rates

>>387191424
>Sonic Lost World
>Games everyone and their mother asked for.

>>387191512


Sonic 1 - 3 SK and Sonic CD

>>387191496
The bosses are just the most blatent part, but pretty much every classic level's been heavily updated.
Also, if Sonic was always that bad, why did he outlive the constant ripoffs he inspired?

>>387191335
It's because devs assume people don't care about framerate in 2D games

Rayman Origins/Legends were capped to 60fps too. It's fucking sad I swear to fucking god.

>>387191541
Guess that's why they had to delay the PC version for "optimization". Frame drops broke the game.

>>387188882
lmfao those tabs

>>387191512
1, 2, 3&K, and CD are must plays. The Sonic Advance trilogy is worth checking out too.

>>387191424
>I'm sure it's because there's not a whole lot of motion you can convey with a low-res 240p image.
I take it you never played any of the old Sonic games in a good CRT monitor

Sonic on a good CRT with only 1-2ms of persistence blur = Bliss

Howdy partners
https://youtu.be/WW2-LDspdBY

>>387191630
>Also, if Sonic was always that bad, why did he outlive the constant ripoffs he inspired?
nostalgia

>>387191512
Here's the order I suggest going in:
>Sonic 1
>Sonic CD
>Sonic 2
>Sonic 3 & Knuckles (play the Sonic 3 Complete version)
I suggest CD after 1 because CD is closer to 1 in terms of level design compared to 2.

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>>387191554
You need to get you're sarcasm detector checked out.

>>387191794
Y-you do know most, if not all of those ripoffs I mentioned were released on the Genesis right?
Isn't that a bit too early for nostalgia?

>>387191794
you don't know what "nostalgia" means, do you?

>>387187762
>Amazon delays my CE to friday
Happy! That's one into the delay, so yay

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>>387180294
i don't think that's helping the cause anon...

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What are you guys doing while you wait for PC release?

>>387191424
>not knowing how framerate works
Consolecuck detected
How many frames do you think Sonic was animated in the Genesis games? It certainly wasn't 60 but the game ran at 60fps

It's the same concept here. It would just run at 120fps(or higher).

For example 60fps@60hz on a modern sample-and-hold display(such as LCD, Plasma, OLED etc.) generates 16.67ms of persistence blur
By comparison 120fps@120hz generates half that resulting in less blurry motion while moving

CRT's don't have this problem because they're not sample and hold display(they flicker) hence their persistence depends on the type of phosphor used(if a phosphor has 1ms of persistence it will always be 1ms at any FPS@HZ combination)

>>387180294
>MFW Buying on switch tommorow

Get bent you PC scum!

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>>387192117

>>387192073
Not waiting for the PC release

I'm not going to play it, even after a crack is out. I'm only still in for the shitposting.

When does this shit release for ps4? is it tonight?

>>387187998
the fact that Sega kept saying "yeah, we'll bring over PSO2" instead of giving a real yes/no answer was absolutely fucking bullshit

>>387187910
PC ports are hard for a handful of reasons.

>converting the game to variable timing for support for more than 60fps
which isn't an issue because Mania is 60fps locked, using framerate for timing like basically every 2D game ever
>various driver issues causing problems due to use of advanced 3D features
which isn't an issue because Mania isn't a 3D game, and the handful of 3D bits are just plain textured and vertex colored objects, there's no real shader shit going on beyond the screen filters
>optimizing the performance because you wrote shit without a care
but the Retro Engine is really, really, really light, Taxman even got it running on a Dreamcast with a quick and dirty unoptimized port (keep in mind, the machine is a 200MHz SH-4 circa 1998 and I'm pretty sure he didn't do any hardware acceleration for drawing and the lot, it was a tad slow as a result)

>>387190273
fixed framerate drastically simplifies both internal game timing and rendering logic
you could run internal logic at 60hz and render whenever and interpolate, although you're guaranteed one logic tick's worth of input lag since the game can only interpolate between known points (and if you don't interpolate, it's the same as just rendering at 60)

also, for basically forever, framerate was the only consistent timer you had on various not-PC platforms (and even on PC, it used to be consistent -- Doom runs at 35fps, period, based on the 70hz refresh rate it used).

>>387191424
>He would only move every other frame?
Sure. You'd still get the same 60 pixels/second.

>>387191091
it's standard practice because the PC is basically the only platform where video framerate isn't standardized, and for basically ages, the most reliable timer available was vsync
unity uses delta time because the entire engine is built around delta time

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>>387192073
working with people jailbreaking the ps4
while simultaneously trying to make them focus on the xbox one but that sure as fuck isnt happening

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>>387192073
Make his feet larger and his muzzle's normals all "smooth" so it becomes a bit like this

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>>387192073
>>387192739
>those soft colors and basic shading

w-why does my mind immediately spring to the coloring style porn artists like to use?

>>387192909
anon with poor vision here

softer colours that blend easily and styles that arent sharp are easier on the eyes and more appealing. the sharper something is the more strain it can bring. thats why often times youll find very detailed porn not as appealing as less detailed porn

>>387192573
>fixed framerate drastically simplifies both internal game timing and rendering logic
Not really, just for stupid japs who stick out outdated shit

But still you could implement a multiplier algorithm something like 60ps x insert number here(2 for 120fps, 3 for 180fps etc.)

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>Sonic CD takes place between Sonic 1 and Sonic 2
>Before Sonic met Tails

Explain this.

>>387191935
Sarcasm is pleb tier insult.

>>387193152
>an easter egg confined to D.A Garden
>supposed to prove anything
kek

"Now I'll have to do my own dirty work and blend those beans!"
https://youtu.be/cIKBDq5wM_s

>>387193152
"SEE YOU NEXT GAME"

>actually excited about a Sonic game again

What kind of dark magic has Sega tapped into? I don't think I've felt this way since Sonic CD.

>>387181665
>>then they release Puyo Puyo Tetris for LITERALLY every platform except PC

Ubi still has the license I believe

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198045177473/
Anyone?

>>387193869
And of course, this translates into PC getting fucked.

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>>387194039
dude what the fuck

>>387193353
That's not the Chemical Plant boss music.

>>387193869

And man did they fuck up royally. Western developed Tetris games are usually a crapshoot, but damn did they screw up royally.

>>387180294
>Sega adds anti-piracy checks
>It's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEOo9EZwpxk
How would you feel about this?

>>387194285
That would be the best way to deal with piratefags

>>387194285
There's no way anything would show up when it gets cracked

>>387194174
Whoops, I got rused.
Sorry.

https://youtu.be/ZimQfhGRdno
https://youtu.be/jR9K2tPq0SU
Oil Spill Zone Act 2.
Almost at Lava Reef

>>387196096
I just want Metallic Madness

>>387196150
We're almost there anon. We just need to get through Lava Reef.
https://youtu.be/J5-X_MY7n3c

>>387194163
What
When you're a poor fag you don't have many options

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>>387191772
Wild Wild West & Knuckles: Dedicated to OVA Knuckles hat.'
https://youtu.be/1QQvou12hBA

>>387196325
Lava Reef Act 2 is a very comfy stage with its music and scenery

>>387196465
Holy fuck it's like Mirage Saloon SA2 edition

>>387192008
Mines was preparing for shipment till i decided fuck this bullshit and cancelled it.

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>>387186952

>>387180294
>being a child

When an adult boycotts something they don't go steal it later

If you are doing it for the principal have some you underage twat

>>387180738

>Why can't PC owners handle disappointments like adults

You mean by chain smoking or drinking alcohol? Pretty sure a number of PC fats already do that.

>>387196469
It certainly is.
>Those guitar riffs
Hnng
https://youtu.be/0tw2R3EP6pQ

>>387180509
>steam wallet
This is the only reeason I haven't got a refund. It's not real money, I can only spend it on Steam. And what Sega has just done to me is exactly why I should never have broken by no-Steam policy. I might as well just play the legit version since refunding gets me literally nothing.

>all these consolefags butthurt cause i will play my game for free and you guys not

TOP KEK

>>387180294
Is PC using denuvo?

Who
>was going to purchase the PC version but now will just pirate it instead
here?

I want to see how many lost sales Sega caused

>>387197693
They lost like 100 after the delay announcement but gained 1k the following day

>>387197693

I was going to get the PC version until the Switch one was announced. I anticipated this kind of shit happening.

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>>387180294

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>>387197832
>Posting a shot of your own tweet

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Is your Madness Metallic?
https://youtu.be/LNxrS4F_HwM

When you say delay do you mean the 2 week delay? Or has it been delayed even beyond that?

>>387198150
Finally

>>387198150
RUN.

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>2 weeks

>>387198540
*yawns and stretches*

yeah.. hehe

enjoy playing the game everyone already fucked dry, anon. hehe... PC master race, right?

>>387198719
teehee, be nice anon. He;s just trying to ketchup

>>387192573
they could have problems with some hardware configurations especially if they are including super high resolution options or something

>>387180294
It's ok I've bought it on PS4 for you.

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>>387198150
I sure hope it is.
https://youtu.be/bTBj51H1S0Y

Does the ps4 version unlock at midnight?

>>387199425
yes, if you preload it there is a countdown

>>387199425
it unlocks in like ten minutes

>want Switch version
>everyone reporting all kinds of bugs on that version

enjoy the game anons

>>387180509
I'm your prom date you ugly sack of shit

>>387199714
Like what before I buy in 5 minutes?

>>387200114
What?

>>387199425
https://twitter.com/RubyEclipse/status/897265137643528193
>PS4/Switch: Midnight - 2AM
>Xbox One: ~8AM PDT

>>387200186
Like what are the bugs?

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https://youtu.be/Rd7IFNZYtZI
https://youtu.be/ZvHcKeH6D0E
Titanic Monarch music.

>>387200554
>that dial-up sample in Act 1.

Could this game get anymore 90's?

Ugga booga where da switch version at?

>>387180294
not on Eshop REEEEEEE

>>387200791
12am eastern because NOA is inept and only care about themselves.

>>387200836
>Midnight pst is 3am for me
Yeah fuck that, guess I won't be playing this until tomorrow afternoon.
And yet Splatoon 2 came out midnight est

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QQvou12hBA

>>387200948
I love this.

>>387201023
NOA only care about themselves. Why should they have to upload a 3rd party game at midnight that people were anticipating?

Switch version when?

>>387201436
3AM EST apparently. I've been refreshing eShop for the last 15 minutes and nothing.

>>387200438
Game locking up and returning to Switch menu, characters falling through levels, bosses not working properly.

>>387201498
I heard 12-2 AM EST

>>387201708
fake news

HOW DO I SPECIAL STAGE AHHHHH

>>387180294
>delaying the PC version by more than 2 weeks to add DRM

unconfirmed speculation.

>>387201894
Same way as Sonic 3.

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>>387201708
>>387201863
should have delayed the console versions too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPLuVNj96c0&feature=youtu.be&a

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn2f3wCdi9k&feature=youtu.be&a

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJWWwugE_ZQ&feature=youtu.be

https://twitter.com/Z0NE/status/897252315975081984

https://twitter.com/GreenWitheNVee/status/897267701856563200

https://twitter.com/KillerLightz/status/897138189521047552

>>387188589
First of all fuck the Switch
Second of all PC version is all-but-guaranteed to have mods, and Sonic hacks/mods are great. I want to play Mania with the Chaotix team using their Knuckles Chaotix gameplay and modders will very likely make that happen.

>>387202227
>fucking Z0NE got a glitch

lol

>>387202227
>Z0NE
Huh.

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>pcbros having a meltdown and cant wait 2 weeks to play a fucking 2d platformer?

what happened to all the glorious """games""" you master race faggots are always bragging about?

>>387201064
YEE HAW

>>387194285
>not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb8egxYT-ug

>>387202227
>SoftLock Glitch After Chemical Plant Boss
I've seen streams where you just die after beating it.

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>>387203098
You got me to check

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>>387203098

>that Zone 2 boss

Had to pause and calm down for a minute. This game is easily the best I've played all year so far it's the only game this year that I've played that's been newly released

>>387186585
>Polo
Que nombre de puto.

>>387203936
raja de aca taringuero idiota

@387203994
>Implying
Not even a you is worth

Guys I realized something
Sonic mania explains why sonic can no longer go hyper

In the knuckles play through in hidden palace it showed the super emeralds greyed and cracked

Mean that after sonic 3&K they were used up saving the master emerald in doomdays zone!

>>387188772

Great job at being a single speck that doesn't change anything Just like in real life

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They really tried to stretch the milage out of the new zones. Act 2 of Studiopolis and Press Garden go fucking nuts and twist the tropes around themselves and Mirage Saloon splits up for Act 1 depending on who you are playing as. Even the Bosses look like they got a lot of extra love. I haven't spoiled the last one TMZ but I imagine it similarly throws a few curveballs.

>>387186783
>Capcom started making things right
Since fucking when? Resident Evil is in a better state, and games like Dragon's Dogma and DMC 4 have been rereleased but that's about it. SFV is still in a constant downward spiral, the new MvC looks fucking terrible, Dead Rising 4 was an abomination, and they're still sitting on many of their beloved IPs. Capcom might not be as bad as they were "a few years back" but to say they've improved would be a stretch.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/11798901

http://archiveofourown.org/works/11778270

>>387204938
What are these and why do you keep posting them?

>>387197693
Reporting here
Actually originally pre-ordered it on Steam. Never again.

fw got to studio zone act 2
so fucking great so far also dat puyo boss

>>387205016
Sonic fanfics porn

>>387180294
>Hates DRM
>Pirates
Every fucking time

>>387180294
Source?

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>>387206493
What, should he buy the game specifically because it has DRM? That would be exactly what the executives want and would tell them that they did right in adding DRM.
I mean, pirating it might give them the impression of "man we need even STRONGER DRM" but that's when you double down on "if it has intrusive DRM I'm not getting it" and keep up the arms race until they make their DRM something that nobody is willing to put up with. Denuvo is already intrusive as hell and has turned away otherwise moral customers.

>>387188882
Because the devs were competent

>>387180294
>get multi plat which will be better because mods
>cries like a baby because of a small delay

>>387207150
>2 weeks
>small delay
No

>>387207672
it is a small delay. at least it isn't a year or more like fucking gta

>>387207845
No it fucking isn't
GTA 5 was never promised day one so it had an excuse unlike Mania which was falsely advertised for August 15th with very bullshit reasons such as "optimization" when the game can run in a fucking toaster

>>387208025
would you rather get a broken port that crashes a ton like every other multi plat on release?

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>>387180294
If they delayed the game it has to be for a reason. Would you rather have a broken, half assed game on Steam? Because that is what you would've gotten if they didn't say anything. It happens all the time when the devs get lazy as fuck with PC platforms, especially with ports, At least SEGA is being considering if their supporters. if you're that desperate, then buy the game on console.

>>387208195
>>387208253
It's only broken on Switch because it was a 3rd party dev porting it you fucking shills.

So who here /waitingforEshop/?

What are ya playin to pass the time?

>>387208253
They delayed it to add DRM, not for "quality"

>>387186818
>brazil
That's spanish.

>>387180294
have fun being gay you fag

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>Manage to get the first three Emeralds in the first three worlds
>Now halfway through Press Garden and can't find the special stage

>>387208253
isn't the switch version full of issues right now?
also, the only cost of patching on Steam is the dev time to make the patch (which is why people are so worried they're adding Denuvo or something)

Damn with the glitches I might wait until a patch release. I really want to play this on the Switch but with no possible flaws in my way.

>>387210245
>isn't the switch version full of issues right now?
They all are but the Switch version is the worst

>final boss music plays
>FUN IS INFINITE

Holy fuck.

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I pre-purchased Sonic Mania on steam and while I am disappointed it is being delayed I'm not gonna refund it and rather just wait for the game to come out.
Fight Me.

So the switch and ps4 versions having these glitches may be proof that sega didn't decide to delay the pc version for denuvo...still would've preferred to deal with the glitches instead of waiting 2 more weeks. sega needs to reduce the steam version to $13.99. Give back $6 to anyone who already pre purchased.

No Amy
No fucking buy

>>387180294
>Game delayed amid fears of cracking and the loss of many years of labor, love, and dedication to the real Sonic and real Sonic fans

REEE I'M PIRATING FUK UUUUUU!!! CANCELLED MY DISCOUNTED PREORDER!

You're fucking pathetic, dude. Please don't post here until after you turn 18.

I HAVE A QUESTION

so since we can use sonics cd playstyle in no save mode only sadly. but you can collect chaos emeralds. would super sonic be able to use the peel out? im really curious to know did they code in a new animation, does he figure 8 while super? or would he stand still and do his regular hover animation in place until the peel out finishes?

>>387184946
Blue ball minigame sucks.

The best way to play it is to rush to a red ball immediately.

>>387186585
¡¡ P-pero Sonic nunca fue bueno !!

What's the best way of playing Sonic CD that doesn't require an actual Sega CD?

>>387210624
>>387210481
The fuck glitches you talking about?

>>387210896
Emulation you twit

>>387210929
see
>>387202227

>>387210896
Buying it on Steam/ps3/xbox360/Mobile Devices (actually really good ports! made by the same guy in charge of Sonic Mania)

>>387210554
Sonic Forces is gonna be an experience like no other modern sonic game.

>>387189817
A fucking leaf

>>387197693
Me. Pre purchased it on amazon, this was a lesson never to do that again. Now I see there's legitimate glitches to deal with but I did not want to wait until the end of august to play. I rather have paid for the game and dealt with the glitches at the same time like the x1/ps4/switch players.

>>387211004

Nice, thanks. Do you know if the Steam ports of Sonic 2 and 3 also any good?

People realize that when everyone pirates a game the dev loses incentive to bring games to PC right? Or I guess we can just wait for PS4 and Xbone emulators.

Why is PC so best and yet so fucking cancerous?

>>387211221
They're just the original roms emulated, not nearly as much care went into them as Sonic CD.

I'm at mirage saloon and I only have 3 emeralds, how bad am I?

Also is it just me or is this game buggy as shit?

>love CD
>love metallic madness
>love the metallic madness us song
>when I hear that it's going to be in the game I go apeshit
>listen to the rip
>they used the jp ost
Why do US CD fags have to suffer so much

>>387211329

Damn, thanks. I'm trying to play 2 and 3 again but every emulator seems to not really handle it flawlessly. I got Fusion with the framerate fix running 3 pretty smoothly now though, so I think I'll play it like this. There's some minor slowdown when lots of things are happening, but I think that's just how it was on the genesis and not an emulator problem.

>>387211452
pretty bad
and it's not just you

>>387197693
Here.

If they add anti-piracy measures, I'll pirate the game, reduce the sales, and then complain about why no one trusts PC users.
That'll sure show them.

>>387211452
I think you had enough zones before that to get all the emeralds.

>>387180294
Thats a very mature reaction OP

How to catch UFO?

>>387211776
1. touch blue spheres
2. jump across turns
3. don't fall

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There are no optimization issues, there are no game-breaking bugs, and any DRM would have already been on the product. This delay is a bait to test price sensitivity. They figure that PC users are the one group most likely to have another system. By delaying the game on PC, it gives them a chance to get a second sale off of this subset of PC players who would be willing to buy the game a second time on a console. Basically giving the people who are "willing" to pay more the chance to fork over more money.

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>>387211776
Collect three mini-UFOs that are either the same color or all different colors, then shoot it until it's destroyed. Also let it absorb power-ups dropped by enemies so it can give you better bonuses when you destroy it. Ignore blue UFOs though since they only give you points and I doubt you're playing for score.

>>387180294
If it actually has Denuvo in the end, I'm refunding.
I don't care how many bugs they fix - they said it wouldn't have shit DRM.

>>387184473
Only 25k preorders?
Wow pc market is shit

>>387180294
What's the best zone in Mania in terms of level design?

>>387212057
I am never going to buy another Sega game again.
I hope this game flops and loses them money.

>>387211325
>Let's delay the game 2 weeks so more people will get mad and pirate :D

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I get this error everytime I try to redeem code. Why me

>>387210929
read the thread dumbass

>>387192073
Fapping to C92 stuff.

>>387211325
You fucking cunt piracy happens because the video game industry keeps treating PC users like shit. It's not the other way around and it never fucking has been.

>>387180325
underrated

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>>387180294
>its an entitled r/PCMR thread