So what's wrong with Windows 10 as a gaming platform? And

>>387147278
well you should care about botnet you retarded goyim

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>>387147278

>>387147493
damn, fbi looks like that?

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Totally shit compatibility.
If the game's older than 4 years old... expect trouble.

Also, hope ya like automated, full system consisting updates!

>>387147278
>as a gaming platform?
nothing

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It can't even play Bully

>>387147595
This shit.

A botnet shouldn't control when you play video games.

>>387147318
>Not gonna put my actual information
>Only going to use Steam and put a fake address and use prepaid steam cards
You can do this. They probably take my information at this moment anyway since every company in the world want to jew you

>>387147595
Isn't there an option to turn it off?

>>387147703
>Bully
Shit game

>>387147595
>he does not have a win 95 machine
pleb

>>387147278
nothing.

only pedos complain about win10

>>387147821
>Isn't there an option to turn it off?
Nope. You can delay it a few times but eventually it will force you to restart your computer.

Every single updates seems to break my Windows. After three times getting fucked over, I decided to never updating.

It's also has these weird ass bugs where XP and 7 just works. My current 10 can't even show hidden files.

>>387147821
>Isn't there an option to turn it off?
No.
If you use W10, MS dictates what's going on with your PC.

Besides that shit, the system also is capable of AUTOMATICALLY uninstalling any "incompatible" or "illegal" software and hardware. I've seen numerous statements from different users who've magically had their emulator folders disappear.

>>387147493
BEEP BEEP

>>387147595
This never happened to me.

>>387148537
Doesn't mean it won't happen.

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>>387148438
http://wccftech.com/windows-10-users-happy-microsoft-data-collection/

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Okay so 90% of you here are against it and gave good enough reasons, but then what? Most of the library on PC doesn't have a Linux version, so should I just upgrade to Linux and kiss more then half of my games goodbye?

>>387148609
I run it for years now. The only problem i have with W10 is the shit UI design.

>>387147595
You can set when Windows 10 will not update your machine (working hours). His own fault.

>>387147278
well, it works great on my machine, if that's anything to go by

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>>387148686
I'm sticking with my W7 Ultimate x64 as long as physically possible, and by that I don't mean I just uninstall it when MS "stops" their "support" for it; Windows XP was still fucking fine up until early 2010s, no matter how much the stealth-shills tried to spread panic and lies about it.
I've kept all my updates disabled ever since the first hints of their Telemetry bullshit surfaced, and I plan to keep doing so.

By some 2020, I will probably start dual-booting some Linux distro. The Linux support has gotten better and better each year, and the increasing interest and support towards the Vulkan technology has made it even easier to play major release titles (like nuDOOM) out of the box on Linux systems.

If anything, I would bet that DX12 ends up being a tiny meme that only "MS Store exclusives" will require, while every other dev would focus more and more to Vulkan, thanks to its way wider compatibility.

>>387148809
That's not an excuse to forgive such bullshit practices. The W10 is also notorious for sapping people's data-capped internet connections dry, all on its own.

And yes, I know about the NOW available setting that marks the connection as capped and thus LIMITS the background services. That's not a solution either.

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>>387149131

Win 10 will constantly nag you about shit and force stuff on you. The other night I installed IrfanView and associated image files with it. Win 10 threw a hissy fit and changed all the associations back to Windows Photo without asking. I wonder how much CPU it wastes on useless over bearing stuff like this

>>387148809
Oh boy, I get to choose which hours Microsoft will seize control of my system from me.

>>387149183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PK55-kCviA

DX12 is snake oil. Deal with it.

>>387147595
This has never happened to me on w10 buy used to happen all the time on w7

>>387147278
Doesn't support SecuROM rootkit so a lot of old CD based games need a crack at least to work

>>387149183
...yes, and?
You seriously think that some 17 year old Kraut space magic like PhysX and Havok wouldn't be easily replicated by most devs and engines?

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>>387147278
>tfw you're the only person who loves to use 8.1

>>387149467
>>387149374
Devs need to move from Directx11 already. Really FUCK Nvidia.

>>387149838
I would understand someone using Windows 7 over Windows 10 but why would you Windows 8.1 instead of Windows 10?!

>>387149969
use*

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>>387149902
>Devs need to move from Directx11 already.
Why? If it works...
Even the DX9 is still seeing limited support this very day, and I don't mind it at all.

>>387149969
>but why would you Windows 8.1 instead of Windows 10?!
Because 8.1 is still miles better, and you are not subscribing to an online SERVICE like you do with W10.

>>387148809
This was never an issue with windows 7 or 8

>>387149902
they need to stop being shit and taking kick backs and actually move onto Vulkan

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>>387147278
>what's wrong with Windows 10 as a gaming platform

>>387150116
Ahh yea, the paint picture proves everything

>>387150090
>you are not subscribing to an online SERVICE like you do with W10.
?? I have win10 and i didn't suscribe to anything.

>>387149467
implemented in Directx12 means it's going to be free to use.

>>387147821
>>387148087
>>387148143
I just turned off windows update in services

>>387147278
Malware eats resources.

>>387150361
>?? I have win10 and i didn't suscribe to anything.
Yes, you did. How about you read the EULA and the fine print next time.

Windows 10 is literally a SERVICE now. Not an offline program you just install and run. You have just sold your soul and PC to the Microsoft, and they are free to do what they want, and even change the rules if they so desire along the years.

>>387150464
There are lots of free alternatives. And you can always code your own.

Plus becoming a MS Store exclusive = suicide.

>>387148809
My system should never never never never NEVER NEVER shut down to update if I do not tell it to and I will litterally never do so because updating is for gay retards

>>387150552
>There are lots of free alternatives.
That are better than Havoc and PhysX?
No.

>>387150361
He's talking about the new update service, which treats windows itself like a service which you subscribe to

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>>387150525
>I just turned off windows update in services
Prepare for unexpected system failures.

>>387150615
how many alternatives have you used?

>>387150525
they will just turn it on again anon as long as you are connected to the internet.
just like apps you can delete them from your computer but some will come right back when they push a new update

>>387150552
>Windows 10 is literally a SERVICE now.
No. I'm using Windows 10 just as i was using previous Windows.

>>387147278
as a gaming platform its fine but no uses an OS exclusively for gaming and its shit at being a general OS

>>387150682
I agree that's bullshit, but I just turn it off again if I see it has been re-enabled

>>387150706
>I'm using Windows 10 just as i was using previous Windows.
You just don't get it.
Yes, the user interface and interaction with the system has barely changed. However, the product itself is now a continuous "service" of which's rules you have accepted and signed up for. Especially if you typed in your hotmail address and shit during creation of the user account, you are literally part of the botnet, and under constant surveillance.

>>387150976
Control over basic things like that shouldn't be an endless tug of war between the user and the OS.

Whats best Windows then?

>>387151242
7

>>387151242
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

>>387151242
XP

>>387147278
You should not use windows 10 as your primary.
If you're going to use it, make sure you have another OS installed for dual boot.
Period.

>>387150986
I'm telling you that i used just like i was using the previous windows aka for the internet, games and some other software stuff like office & Photoshop and video making shit.

As for your botnetshit meme, even Windows 7 gather informations. I don't really care of that shit since i'm in europe.

>>387150715
I dunno, I use my win10 box for downloading games and playing games almost exclusively. Occasionally I'll use it to browse the web or download a film but its not my primary machine for anything not vidya.

>>387151242
Windows 10

>>387151157
I agree with you, but I don't think screaming about it every time it happens to you will do anything but raise your blood pressure

>>387147595

What? Compatibility is actually better than ever in my experience and most of the games I play are older than 4 years.

>>387151379
>falling for the linux meme
Lel

Any /g/fags who can tell me what makes Windows 7 less of a botnet than 10?
I feel like they are both terrible but Win10 is more open about it.

>>387151242
8.1
Its just 7 but objectively better performance across the board.

>>387151512
>even Windows 7 gather informations.
On W7, you have way more choices and control on the matter. W10 on the other hand will sooner or later assume direct control of things, or literally self-destruct.

>I don't really care of that shit since i'm in europe.
So am I, and I'd rather see your kind of ignorant, blissful morons publicly hanged.

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>>387151850
>Any /g/fags who can tell me what makes Windows 7 less of a botnet than 10?
Not a /g/fag but it's a meme.

If you care that much about whether you're being spied or not. Then better never leave your house (Satellite, Google Map etc and shiet..), never google stuff, never use Apple's stufff and never use Microsoft or any other mainstream stuff (Facebook Discord)


Also stop browsing and using 4chan because Hiroshimoot know everything about you.

>Have Windows 10 on laptop that I bought for school/travel
>only game I feel like playing is Maplestory
>windows 10 spits on my face and forces me to throat it's ballsack, then tells me I can't play Maplestory and that I have to update my laptop for the 16th time that month

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Real talk
People bashing windows 10 are stupid users who never cared about their security before and don't know to configure shit so they blame it on the os when shit goes wrong.
Facts they probably don't know are
-You can delay updates up to a month, "forced" updates happen when you don't turn off your system for at least a week if you didn't choosed the month delay.
-Basic telemetry is crash reports of applications
-You have more privacy option to disable on latest creators update
-If you're not using a a msft account they don't collect data on you, read the eula, the data they say they collect if on their "services", aka, using cortana, store, windows apps, etc
-Windows 10 uses less ram and disk space than 7, boot faster too.

>>387152151
lololol tl;dr Windows shill

>>387151779
I've talked to lots of people who've literally lost HALF of their entire Steam library.

Not to mention tons of late 90s and early 00s games flat out do not work.

>>387151850
>Any /g/fags who can tell me what makes Windows 7 less of a botnet than 10?
W7 is an offline software package first and foremost. You don't have quite the same degree of freedom as on Linux systems, but especially on Pro and Ultimate editions you can adjust all the important aspects to your liking, and block any and all traffic if you so desire.
W10 is like a Netflix subscription, that you utilize via this GUI that is Windows 10. If Microsoft decides to overhaul the entire system and their rules, there is nothing you can do.

The only reason MS has been so aggressively pushing W10 on people is the fact that 7 was so easily crackable, and thus acquirable for free. They also had to figure out new ways to make money now that free alternatives are becoming more popular, which is why they are "selling" their CUSTOMERS to the other corporations.

>>387152238
Does that make this thread a Linux shill thread or OS X etc..?

>>387151242
7 is the sweetspot as it still has the classic layout most of us who used XP are familiar with plus it can still play most modern games but it only supports up to a modified version of DX11.1. Be wary that it's going to be losing extended support soon (2020) and some online programs will probably do the same.

8.1 supports newer versions of DX11 and probably offers a marginally better gaming experience as it uses less resources than 7 but the trade off is the tablet layout so it's going to take a while to get used to. Also beware that Microsoft may attempt to force you to upgrade to 10.

>>387152281
YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE

>>387152120
>update my laptop for the 16th time that month
You can't have updates every 2 days, stop being retarded, fully update once, get updates every 15 days
>>387152238
>tl:dr
Yup, you're one of those retards

>>387152279
Windows 10 is free right now. The reason Microsoft is pushing Windows 10 is to keep up with the competition.

>>387152151
>You can delay updates up to a month, "forced" updates happen when you don't turn off your system for at least a week if you didn't choosed the month delay.
>you can delay updates up to a month
>delay
>"forced"
>unironically thinks that the ability to delay an update stops it from being forced

>>387152338
suck that windows dick harder

Quarantine your gaming PC to be strictly for video games. Never do anything personal on it or anything important. Just video games. Maybe you're being spied on, but you're not giving them any useful information.

Everything else, use a cheap linux PC.

>>387152582
Why would anyone avoid security updates like a retard?
Its like that last ransomware spread wasn't a perfect enough example of the outcome of people's retardation already.

>>387152291
>trade off is the tablet layout
It's mostly optional. The only time I see it is on startup and when changing settings that aren't in control panel. The lack of a start menu is my main complaint, but right clicking the windows icon opens a menu with most of what I needed from the start menu. 7 and 10 are better than 8 though.

>Windows 10 as a gaming platform?
Isn't Steam the gaming platform of Windows? It pretty much has the monopoly on PC.

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>>387152814
You can just not wander the internet like a retard and you'd never need the update, but that's not the point of the argument. The fact that we, as users, don't have control of what's installed and not installed on our machine that we paid for is and always will be complete bullshit jewery.

>>387147821
>>>387147595
>Isn't there an option to turn it off?
sure. You can delay it until you want to restart. You just cant stop it from updating once you actually do restart.

These guys are too stupid to use a windows PC:
>>387148087
>>387148143

>>387147278
It keeps resetting my default programs to their bullshit apps with every update.

>>387153051
>You can just not wander the internet like a retard and you'd never need the update
Opinion discarded, maybe when I said "last randsomware spread" I had higher expectations on you actually knowing why did it spread so fast and easy, but hell I was wrong. Its like talking with a literall kid here.

>>387148101
try using a legal windows.
and no, a "good pirated version" isnt the same as a legal one.

>>387152814
Most people don't care about security till their it impacts them directly. Plus there's stupid bullshit like trying to turn your PC off quickly before a thunderstorm, but you can't by default because there's no fucking shut down without updating option. Or when a specific update crashes your PC and many other PCs.

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Windows users:
>install Windows
>get to work and be productive

Linux users:
>endless aggressive discussions among themselves on which distribution is the best
>constant shit talking to Windows users
>spend 95% of their time ricing their distro or fixing problems
>never contribute in any way to society
>freetard philosophy
>can't decide whether their OS is called GNU/Linux or Linux

>>387153265
That has nothing to do with your license legality, I have pirated windows since 98se up to 10 and everytime something break is because they have shitty outdated software, drivers or just virus running in their os, maybe they like to interrupt updates turning off the system when it tolds them not to.

>>387147278
nothing wrong its better and faster for games than win7

ITT:
people cry because MS decided to force them to keep their system healthy because they were to stupid to do it on their own

>>387153238
Maybe I don't know what your talking about but we're talking the ethics of the distribution of updates, not what the updates offer the user. Your shilling is becoming more and more transparent.

>>387153385
who cares if your stolen goods dont work? go die in your basement poorfag

>>387153265
Yea it fucking is

Running windows 7 is activated and I get all the updates

>>387153385
>I have pirated windows since 98se up to 10 and never had an issue with it, currently on pirated creators update pefectly fine*
Corrected that for me.
>>387153338
>Most people don't care about security till their it impacts them directly.
So, you're suggesting me that microsoft forcing them to update is a good thing with that statement
>trying to turn your PC off quickly before a thunderstorm, but you can't by default because there's no fucking shut down without updating option
Living on a shit 3rd world that had outages on a thunderstorm, not having an UPS, taking more than 5 minutes to shutdown installing updates or not knowing how to hibernate is just user stupidity at their fullness.
>>387153501
>ethics of the distribution of updates
Just dont accept the eula and don't install windows 10 nigga, like, nothing is FORCED, you're accepting it deliberately

>>387151242
Still Windows 10 because Microsoft intentionally leaves security breaches so that you have to move to the latest bullshit once the support drops.

This is the future. It's shit, but that's how it's going to be.

>>387153634
poorfags' complains dont count. your problem is the backdoors installed by the guy who cracked your copy. you are a fool

buy a copy its only 20 coins or stfu

>>387152358
>Windows 10 is free right now
"Free".

>>387153504
Read >>387153717
I never had issues with pirated software since 2 decades ago, that anon saying pirated windows break more is just a plain stupid opinion.
>>387153771
You don't know how activators work didn't you?
They are mostly open source and you can even activate windows yourself with only one file and 1 generic oem serial

>>387153717
Why would you pirate windows 10, all you need to do is tell microsoft that you use an assistive technology device and you get it for free. You don't even need evidence.

>>387153915
Why would you care if its legit or not if it works exactly the same?

>>387153771
>my pirated copy works
>yea but these made up back doors!
nice goal post shift faggot

>>387153870
"just one file"
>uptheass.exe

>>387151850
Nothing. With updates Microsoft actually added all the telemetry bullshit into Windows 7 and 8/8.1 and you have no control over it because all of that was added with important security updates.

If you have a "secure" Windows, you're running a Microsoft botnet. If you don't have it, you're machine is probably part of a different botnet or will soon be.

>>387154029
I will take the bait and asume you're just pretending to be retarded, but no, the certificate file is a xrm-ms one.

>>387153985
well the goal posts dont matter if you are arguing the bad support for your stolen software. you are the retard here and its easy to tell

>>387154120
>the goal posts don't matter because I say so, it doesn't matter if I abandoned my first false statement

>you're retarded because your software actually works

maybe I'm not the other faggot

>>387152358
It's not free. It stopped being free a long time ago. Windows 10 was free only for the first year after it came out. Now you have to pay +60$ for the basic version.

>>387154120
>bad support
You're assuming pirated windows dont get the very same updates than a legit one, but they do, and they don't have any problem whatsoever

>>387154104
And I will not take your bait and just take for granted that you are in fact just too stupid to get it.

Get a nicer hook, mate. I'll leave you and your fucked pirate ship alone

>>387154223
http://www.zdnet.com/article/heres-how-you-can-still-get-a-free-windows-10-upgrade/
You should lurk more next time.

>>387154275
Not an argument, if you don't even know how activation work I will be the one that won't bother trying to show a retard how to use google, but hey, you feel better yourself when you think you're right, so, keep doing it for your own sake, looks like you need it.

>>387154231
no i assume that there are more holes in a software that you know has been hacked before you even install it. and those holes are unknown to the security guys at MS, so they dont get fixed

>>387154282
Except it doesn't work. I literally did that a week ago.

>>387154446
no u didnt

>>387154426
>no i assume
So, you clearly don't know how to activate windows yourself and blame a non-existand boogieman when using a pre-compiled executable?
Classy, talk shit you don't know about.

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>>387154515
Actually you're right. I did it 3 weeks ago.

>>387154426
you're assuming they even exist on any significant scale

>>387154610
no u didnt

>>387148809
>I get to choose when W10 dominates my ass
fucking wew lad

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>>387147278
Nothing, get win10 Enterprise LTSB or whatever MS calls it now.

Literally every critique people throw at you can be solved with configuring windows to your specifications. Most people are just too lazy or stupid to do the work and rather complain.

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>>387154763

>>387154763
What if windows resets those configurations itself or downright ignores them?

>>387153340
They're the equivalent of r/pcmasterrace: a vocal portion of the userbase that makes the rest look bad.

>>387147278
>Windows 10 as a gaming platform?
Shit compatibility compared to W7.
Will crash many games.
Input lag issues.
Bandwidth being consumed for no (known) reason.
Drivers benefiting """DX12""" somehow make DX9 and DX11 games run like shit.
Fuckload of cancerous things enabled by default we are not IT we just want to play video games.
You are basically endorsing the Windows Store and various DRM even if you don't use it ((or just for that free game))

>>387147278
Honestly nothing, I've been running it for a while now with no issues.

>>387154923
Yes, windows has a habit of """""""""""""""""forgetting""""""""""""""""""""""" to do what it was told.

>>387154610
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/840894/Windows-10-download-free-creators-update
>Mon, Aug 14, 2017

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>>387154923

>>387154031
>With updates Microsoft actually added all the telemetry bullshit into Windows 7 and 8/8.1 and you have no control over it because all of that was added with important security updates.

Why do idiots keep repeating this meme? You can pick and choose what updates to install and uninstall on 7, unlike 10 where you either install every update or no updates.

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>>387147278
It uploads telemetry and downloads updates while playing
This can cause noticeable lag spikes in multiplayer games

>>387147595
This has never ever happened to me. The system only does force updates when I manually restart my computer, which has been going on since 7.

>>387148143
>I've seen numerous statements from different users who've magically had their emulator folders disappear.
I have large Retroarch, PCSX2 and Dolphin folders with a lot of games and they have never just "magically disappeared." That's nonsense.
I pirate on W10 all the time. Nothing happens to it.

The biggest problem I've had with W10 so far is the UI getting corrupted after I fucked with the registry. Otherwise it's been smooth sailing for over a year. It has bluescreened a couple times, but it's very, very rare.

>>387155135
Yes?

>>387147278

>i don't care about botnet

OK, enjoy having on average 20-30fps less than if your system wasn't performing botnet shit in the background.

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>>387155216

What if an asteroid hits us? What if the sky falls? What if we get another Mega Man game?

What if arguments as a way to discredit others are silly, anon.

>all of these people bitching about Windows
>they'll never use Linux
Microsoft isn't gonna stop jewing you one day. It's time to support the alternatives, even if you're just dual-booting.

>>387147703

What's with that pic? Why is an atheist Jew hanging out with black Christians in a chu...oh, he's trying to get into politics now, isn't he?

>>387155139
>You can pick and choose what updates to install and uninstall on 7
You can't. You can't pick and chose what to install from a single update. The telemetry bullshit was part of a security update, BK whatever number. You can't split that one update apart and install only parts of it.

>>387155139
They got rid of that months ago

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/08/15/further-simplifying-servicing-model-for-windows-7-and-windows-8-1/

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>>387155335

>windows 10 cuts 20-30 frames off your games

>>387154645
Are you lazy or do you not know how to spell "you"?

>>387155482
So a benchmark machine that isn't connected to the internet is showing us an accurate representation of what your machine connected to the internet will do in the background as you play games?

OK. Should have known you're uninformed when you posted some prepared macro image as an argument.

>>387155335
>average 20-30fps less
At least say something more credible like 5-10fps.

>>387147595

Well fuck this. I guess I'm sticking with windows 7 forever.

>>387155760
So, where is your proof of windows performing worse while connected to the internet?
There is no such thing other than anecdotal evidence of your shitty imagination.

>>387156038

[citation]: This site called google

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>>387156220
No proof?, ok, I accept your defeat.

>>387156220

>prove my arguments because I don't think they're worth the effort of proving

Real intellectual here.

>>387147595
This literally only happens to people who refuse to reboot their PCs for weeks, can we stop this meme already, those people are a danger to you and me when they refuse to do their regular updates

>>387147595
I've been using W10 since it came out and never had this issue, it just alerts me of updates and then tells me to restart whenever I want to apply them.

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>>387154923
MS treats their Enterprise customers well. I've never seen them undo a group policy setting. It would be suicide.

Most of the shit things about Windows 10 is in Home. There's a reason why that version was free.

>>387153265
>i-it's buggy because you pirated it!
Great comeback, Pajeet

is the indian tech service ITT? i have an issue with my machine.

>>387149183
>are you excited?
>you will be
>now open your ass wide

The real problem, for a gaming platform, is that Windows uses so much more system resources for just the OS than the alternative, which leaves less for the games.

>>387150361
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/update/waas-overview

>>387157405
The fuck you're talking about?
It uses less resources than 7 and 8.1 and have a better thread dispatcher that makes everything run smoother on multi-core systems.

>>387149183
DX12 is a fucking meme and no one is going to exclusively adopt it when Vulkan exists and provides actual performance boosts.

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>>387151632

>people getting pissed online means nothing

Nah anon, you gotta stir up shit. Ever since 2009 people know online prevailing opinions and memes are worth $$$ from a PR perspective.

Don't be so passive

>>387157518
The alternative to Windows is Linux, not more Windows you moron.

>>387157539
Just like Open GL, amirite?

>>387157587
>Gaming on linux
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
Windows uses like 1gb of memory for the os, the ps4/xbone uses like 3gb for the os

>>387152081

This is intentional astroturfing to make you give up hope.

Stay aware bros, accept nothing that disregards your rights as a conscious human being.

>>387148809
he plays video games for a living, he doesn't have working hours

>>387157646
What the fuck is going on? Why the fuck are you talking about consoles suddenly?

>>387152151
We can't tell what telemetry collects because the contents are encrypted. They seem too big in filesize to only be crash reports.

Big businesses that care about security (I work at one) were really concerned before realizing they can't do shit anyway.

MS is plague.

>>387157485
Changes nothing from the previous Windows OS.

>>387157864
>We can't tell what telemetry collects
We can, read the eula
>the contents are encrypted
The connection between you and microsoft servers are encrypted, the files on you harddrive aren't
>They seem too big in filesize to only be crash reports.
You have never, ever see a minidump report before?
>(I work at one)
So you have never, ever read a fucking mini dump before but you trust some online clickbait article? Holy shit

>>387157405
The only shit that use a lot of ressource in my laptop is BitDefender Internet Security which is my main antivirus..

>>387157760
Sorry, I was giving you an example of how windows is the best os for gaming compared to... everything.

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>>387147595
Well fuck.

>>387158083
>, the files on you harddrive aren't
So where are they?

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>>387147703
>that face

How to DISABLE auto-updates on W10:

Right-click on your wi-fi connection and go to properties. Set the connection as "metered". Windows will stop automatically downloading anything now, including the updates. This doesn't affect any other programs (like Steam or Chrome) as far as I'm aware.

>>387158395
>how to make things worse for literally everyone

>>387158278
You work at a "big business" aren't you? How can't you not know this, hell, I already spoonfeed you what they are, using google shouldn't be hard at this point.
Its like talking to literal toddlers here.

Use Steam OS.

I dunno about you guys but I was forced to update to win10 for some programs that I use for my job. This fucking shit OS pushed my cpu usage through the fucking roof for all games that I played. CPU sits at 40~60% usage for Prey on win 7? How does 80~100% on win10 sound? So now I have to fucking pay out the ass for a new cpu and mobo just to use this trash

>>387158094
The OS uses a lot of resources, not some random software that you should clearly uninstall.

>>387158252
OP asked what was wrong with Windows 10 as a gaming platform, I answered him, I didn't say other platforms were better.

>>387158395
>Having this shitty option turned on by default in the first place
>If not, having this option at all

Dead on arrival.

>>387158791
>The OS uses a lot of resources
But it doesn't

>playing game online
>game screen minimizes and a blue window asking me to update pops up
>I already disabled all the automatic update shit and deleted at least 30 registry keys/components and switched off everything in the settings
>it still does it

Only reason I """upgraded""" is because I bought a new processor and it doesn't support windows 7.

>>387158453
This affects only your own machine. Basically you trick WIndows into believing that it's an actual metered connection and it shouldn't fuck with your bandwidth. So it doesn't.

The only true way to disable auto-updates indefinitely, as far as I know.

>>387158395
wasn't this fixed in creator's update though

>>387158946
The only way your riddled with security holes machine only affects your machine is if you disconnect it from the internet.

So please do so.

>>387158875
>almost unusable with 4gb RAM and mechanical harddrive when 7 or 8 works just fine
Sure.

>>387158926
Why haven't you set your "working hours" so updates dont pop up?
Why don't you manually update every week so it doesn't pop up at all?

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So I went to my system resources to see just how much was devoted to OS, but I discovered something weird

>overclock 4690K to 4.1
>see pic related

Surely this is bugged and my processor isn't actually doing 4.7 for some reason?

>>387158474
It's just Debian with Big Picture as part of the OS.

>>387147278
Nothing wrong with me.
Works well with every game.

>>387159128
Task manager was always retarded when it comes to CPU speed. Use a better tool for that.

>>387159054
Well no shit, you should turn the auto-updates back on at least once a month or so.

But downloading a few GB of updates every few days and pushing my disk and CPU usage thru the roof just when I'm about to play a game? MS can fuck right off.

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>>387159067
>almost unusable
You're just baiting at this point, this shit works faster than almost every windows 7 machine I've maintained, updates take 5 minutes tops with full restart

>>387156620

>I've never seen them undo a group policy setting.

you're joking right?

>>387159045
Still works for me. W10 would be hell on my shitty laptop otherwise.

>>387159327
That sounds more like the issue is that you're gaming on a toaster.

>>387153340
so what will we do if win 10 is the final one? Fuck going NSA.

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>>387158454

>like talking to toddlers

>source is the EULA

HAHAHAHAAAA!

>>387159327
>a few GB of updates every few days
???
Weekly updates are 5~100MB, annual updates are 2.1~3.5GB tops

>>387159469
Should've voted for Ron Paul.

>>387159575
>Posting non argument
Yup, toddlers allright

>>387159584
I also have Office, so yeah.

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>>387159597

indeed

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>>387159727
Most office application updates are like 100 mb

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>>387159672
not him but who said it was an argument? You can post things other than arguments.

Felt great to see you get BTFO though.

>>387159905
I like your imaginary BTFO anons, they work great and actually blow the fuck out better when you don't post proofs or arguments too, its amazing

>>387159273

No, I know. I would usually use CPUID etc.

I was just surprised when I saw that, and figured you anons might know better than I.

>>387147595
>>387147821
Not sure why Win10 threads always fill up with misinfo, you can easily turn off autodownloading/installing updates with a single registry key
Win10 Home and I haven't been bothered with a forced update once, as usual /v/ talks about shit it doesn't know about.

>>387157547
I'm not saying be quiet, just don't work yourself up over something that you have no control over

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>>387160220
Board is filled with actual kids so, they fell for every clickbait article they read without actually trying stuff themselves.

>>387160025
>rajeesh completely btfo and asshurt
>still can't stop shitposting
>inb4 samefag!

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>>387160025

>imaginary

Like the MBs of "imaginary" Windows 10 Telemetry packs in with those crash reports.

Did YOU read the EULA anon? They say they can collect any documents you were working on at the time of the crash and if they're stored on US soil you know what that means...

>>387160220
Because boogeymen and W7 ludditery. If these people were really concerned about problems Windows has they would install Linux.
W10 is not different from W7 in any functionally significant way. I often forget it's actually 10 I'm using.

>pajeets still desperately trying to damage control all these months later

>>387160364
>rajeesh completely imaginary btfo with post without sources or any kind of proof whatsoever, just that anon imagination and asshurt
>can't post a single argument and call other comments shitposting
>"Not him! I-I swear! Im a completely different anon here, trust me"
>>387160436
>Like the MBs of "imaginary" Windows 10 Telemetry packs in with those crash reports.
You you have never read a minidump before? Figure.
>They say they can collect any documents you were working on at the time of the crash
Yup, if you're using office, weboffice or onedrive services, read carefully when they start talking about "SERVICES" on the eula so you get yourself a clue of things

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>>387160436

Oh no, the government will know what porn I was looking at!

>retards still desperately reposting fake articles about windows 10 after 2 years of launch

It's shit for old games

>>387160748
What old game you can't run?

>>387160627
>sandeep still can't speak english
>desperately calling samefag, as expected

These are the people you share this board with. This isn't a shill in the "haha, le meme" sense, this is an actual paid shill. This is a person who obviously doesn't understand rudimentary English, and is getting paid to defend a product.

>>387160482
>W10 is not different from W7 in any functionally significant way. I often forget it's actually 10 I'm using.
Too true, after I install classic shell I don't even need to bother with that whole UWP shit neither, last time I touched that was when I first set up this install.

People who bitch about telemetry but still use Win7 are the funniest though, because MS never backported the telemetry to other ver-oh wait: https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/list-of-windows-7-telemetry-updates-to-avoid.379151/

>>387160651
You can't be this retarded

>>387160817
>Posting facts is "shilling"
Its ok anon, you will grown up one day.

>>387160884
Wanna bet?

>>387160918
But you haven't posted any facts, Prajeet. You've just been desperately shilling in broken English. Almost as if you were getting paid to do it.

You basically need W10 if you want to do VR without stutters

>>387161076
>vr
And nothing of value was lost

>>387161018
I haven't seen any proof of windows performing worse or doing any kind of violation of the eula in the entire thread neither, so, be my guess and start posting something real here, oh wait, you cant!

>>387161123
I guess if you're poor.

>>387160748
I have yet to come across a game I cannot run in W10.

NWN gave me some trouble, but I was able to overcome it with compatibility mode.

Been using 7 for years for gaming. Switched to 10. Holy shit. Much better than expected. Except I really hate those automatic updates it downloads.

>>387161174
Wow

>>387161151
>be my guest
fixed that for you

>>387160817
wish more fucking people could see this shit. It's plain as day.

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>>387160220
>>387160482
>complains about "misinfo"
>spreads blatant MS propaganda and lies

>>387161264
>People fighting stupidity
>Someone must be paying them!

>>387161151
>you are not to be questioning sacred windows eula! it is to be infallible like great six armed god! you should go to be my guess and diamond dozen on your shitposting days, my friend!

Who in the literal fuck teaches you Indians how to speak English? Who is responsible for the incomprehensible mess of word soup that comes out of your mouths?

>>387161304
And nothing of value was lost

>>387161247
>>387161151

Windows is collecting fuck knows what about everything.

Check out the old NSA Key from the XP days.

Check out the modern information economy.

Check out the freedom of information act.

Read up on this. We're being bought and sold and Windows is one vector.

This isn't just buying/surfing habits, they form IDENTITIES about SPECIFIC people. And this will still be stored when you're 80.

Imagine if this stuff keeps up. In 20 years there may be all kinds of leaks and all your info and all your habits and all your history are out there for the world to see and businesses to fuck you over with, and medical and car insurance to turn down your application with.

Please don't give me the "what do you have to hide?" bullshit, read a book.

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I actually like the new start menu. Took a while to get used to it but the tile system is pretty neato.

Overall the system runs nicely, I have absolutely no problems at all. It doesn't delete shit as some people say. I'm pirating stuff to test it out and unless BitDefender thinks it's a virus or something, nothing gets deleted or blocked.

Another nice thing is that you set your system up once and whenever you reinstall it, all your settings get set back up since they are in your profile.

I regularly fix people's PCs and laptops and I just install them Windows 10 if a reinstall is needed or they want it. It's much faster and easier for me. Plug in USB, install the OS in 10 minutes, update all the drives in 10-20 minutes, install the essentials in a few minutes and that's it. Pretty convenient to use.

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>>387161304
>actually thinking theres no way to disable autoupdates
>calling anyone who says otherwise a liar/MS shill
Are you retarded? Just because they don't show you the option in control panel doesn't mean it's not there idiot.

>>387161497
Here's a tip. Be less afraid of MS, they're very limited in the scope of what they realistically can do, and they're in everyone's crosshairs because they've been caught doing shit too often.

You want to be afraid of someone, google is over there.

>>387161497
You're arguing with people who get paid to deny these things are issues or even exist in the first place. Good luck with that.

>>387161304
No, really. If you actually cared about Windows' problems, which there are many, you would just install Linux or make a Hackintosh. But because you stay on W7, thinking it's the last "good" version of Windows you prove you have no idea what you're actually afraid of. 7 is the exact same shit as 10 functionally, and they even backported the telemetry, so if you haven't had automatic updates turned off since like 2012 you have it.

I'm not like >>387161240 who is probably an actual shill. W10 provides no performance boost in games, it's just not detrimental like people are claiming.

>>387161613
t. paid shill

>>387161304
Guess those niggers should be better trained to handle modern day software... if even that was possible.
>>387161375
So that anon tell you to read the very eula you posted about early and then you complain you won't read it and prove him wrong?
>>387161497
>Windows is collecting fuck knows what about everything.
They say what they collect on the eula
>Check out the old NSA Key from the XP days.
So where was your nsa key on the latest windows 10 leak? Oh wait, there was none!
>Check out the modern information economy.
Just like apple, google, android, etc collect info too?
>Read up on this. We're being bought and sold and Windows is one vector.
Just like osx?
>This isn't just buying/surfing habits, they form IDENTITIES about SPECIFIC people. And this will still be stored when you're 80.
Just like every fucking adverstiser ever? You don't even know how the fucking internet adverstising works since years ago? Why bother replying to stupid people like you?

>>387149838
This, I don't understand this Win7 meme, 8.1 are amazing, I literally never had a problem with it and it should be supportedfor longer than meme Win 7OS.

>>387147318
>people still being retarded as fuck tinfoil hat brain damaged fucktards crying about "muh guberment spyin on me"

thread is pointless, these people have few brain cells workin

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>There is paid apple shills trying to make windows look bad
I fucking knew it

>>387161739
>So that anon tell you to read the very eula you posted about early and then you complain you won't read it and prove him wrong?
Fucking what? I'm asking who the fuck teaches this weird, broken English to indian streetshitters such as yourself? Is it individual tutors? Do you have schools? Who do I need to hold responsible for butchering the language this badly?

>>387161727
>don't know what to say anymore
>I know! I'll call him a shill, that'll show em!

>>387148809
Or you can run some file that completely disables this feature. I did it and I can run my pc 24/7.

>>387161739
>You don't even know how the fucking internet adverstising works
But you apparently do, Sandeep.

>>387161863
>Posting ad-hominem instead of good counter arguments
>That will show him!

>>387161739
The difference with internet advertisement is you can actually block it more or less successfully.

>>387161848
>apple shills

I literally don't understand how can anybody be that retared to use MAc OS instead of windows. I can understand iOS over androind, but how can anybodey bud this over priced shit?

>inb4 hurdur you are poor
I can afford it without a hit into my savings, retard.

>>387150257
Not that anon, but because of Win 10 I couldn't play Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes.

For a moment it worked, but the next day it was blacked.

>>387161906
>no, it's fine to trust OUR company goy!
>just don't trust that OTHER company over there. they're the real bad guys!
>oi vey! trust THEM is like another shoah!
Keep wondering how people know you're a shill.

>>387161951
Even my fucking dog know because it isn't a illiterate retard that can't figure out to type words onto a search engine on the internets

>>387161983
B-but my professional designer!!!
Apple hardware runs all Adobe apps faster than PC hardware.

>>387161957
I'm not trying to have an argument with you, you streetshitting, cow piss drinking mongoloid. I'm not at all interested in hearing your scripted talking points about how Microsoft is the savior of mankind. I've heard them before, I assure you.
I'm asking a pretty straightforward question about why you can't even speak rudimentary English.

So if I were to build a new pc right now what OS is best for gaems?

>>387162126
This is probably false, apple got hardware accelerated adobe suite 2 years after the windows versions because apple openGL implementation is always years behind than windows or linux.

>>387162229

Linux

>>387162229
Win 8.1 or 10, don't fall for Win7 meme.

>>387162208
You can't prove any windows slander claim then, good, I take it.

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>>387162367

>>387162378
I'm not making any "Windows slander" claims. I'm asking you a simple question.

>>387162454
Yes

>>387147595
>update starts and shuts down your computer
>streaming service continues as usual, just the main screen is taken
retards keep falling for this bait?

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>>387162367

>>387162254
I know. But retards buying Apple actually use that argument. On top of that you can get a PC that is lightyears ahead of an Apple PC for the same price so even if they did run better on the same specs, the specs you can get are so much better than the Apple specs that it still runs worse on Apple.

It's just that retards fall for the Apple propaganda of anyone using Apple shit is a professional and mature person while everyone else is a subhuman working on a construction site.

>>387162369
I have win7 on my current machine; can't tell if my hard drive is fucked up but god damn it can be really clunky.

>>387162451
I ove how Linuxfags cannot deal with having shittiest OS for gaming that is even more dead than Windows Phone or WiiU

>>387162557
>what is a streaming PC

>>387162451
>>387162559

If we're being perfectly honest, an open source OS is the ideal and everybody should jump on the train. Obviously Linus isn't quite on windows level to the casual user and in some gaming areas but you have to start somewhere

>>387162367
Daily reminder that DOSBox was Linux only at one point and is now the de-facto method of playing DOS games. With Windows dropping support of win32 applications (W10 actually has no support for them at all and runs them through a compatibility layer), Wine is going to end up the same way.

>>387162582
Download the hdtunepro trial version, check "health" tab, it might show some bad sectors or unusual faults.
You can make a benchmark test too to see your hdd speed, maybe you're using a slow disk

>>387162657

I know all of the arguments. I just have no reason to not use Windows.

>>387162659
>With Windows dropping support of win32 applications (W10 actually has no support for them at all and runs them through a compatibility layer)
Wait, what?

>>387162748
That guy is a retard and thinks Win 10 S things apply to every edition

>>387162719
thx

>>387147278
Please everyone who has problems with win10...get LTSB and never look back at those disrespectful peasant versions.

>>387162657
Who started the windows
>muh gaming
meme? The reason i use windows is because it's very easy to use for everything.

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>>387162816

It isn't a meme. Windows supports more vidya than any other desktop OS.

>>387150659
I think you forgot to square the most important comment

>There is no option to delay...

>>387162816
Windows, over Linux, for me mostly has the advantage of the executable.

Apple will try to limit you where they can, Linux tells you to package manager, hope someone packaged for your package manager, or to just compile yourself.

Windows has literally the best standard for executables. It's ridicolous.

>>387162779
I figured it was something like that. Glad it was just a retard being fucking retarded.

>All these W7 shills
I never understood why people continue to say its the best Windows OS when 8.1 soundly beats it across every single benchmark.

Been using it for 2 years now and don't get the hate.

>>387163302
win8 has the same problem as vista - it's been trashed at launch and superseded by a version with a better launch.

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>>387161123
>not wanting to play Paper Mario or Metroid Prime in VR

>>387163302

>my start button!

is literally the only argument

>>387162657
Linux simply isn't worth it if you game a lot on PC. The fact that you have to dualboot in the first place to render some games runnable is silly. Even if by some miracle everything works fine when you dualboot for the first time it's a bunch of unnecessary setup for the end user.

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all M$ going to get from me is fap material from my discord furry erp sessions. Hope they enjoy reading it!

>>387147595
This never happened.

>i don't care about my privacy
People like you are enablers of modern evils. You are the cause for real life problems that arise from the consequences of your indifference.

Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither And Will Lose Both

If you don't know what kind of problems your behavior brings, that's okay, but read up on it. Don't be too lazy to do some research on topics concerning humanity's future.

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>tfw broke as hell, so MS couldn't get a dime from me even if they wanted

>>387163563
Worst rabu.

>>387162816
>Who started the windows muh gaming meme?
Literally Microsoft themselves as part of a Windows 95 ad campaign.

It's also why they later pushed for DirectX to become the standard graphics API that most games used, so they would have a monopoly.

>>387163625
I take it you're on Linux and don't actually play games? I take it you also refuse to use any google products?

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>>387163625

Nigger, the whole fucking world is consumed by smart devices.

Me putting tinfoil on and using Linux means fuck all.

>>387163625
Man, you only get to live one life, I'll do whatever the fuck I want so long it's convenient and you can't do anything about it.

>>387162557
>what is a capture card/device on another computer for streaming so that you don't need to be running your game with the overhead of also running your streaming software

>>387161679
>it's just not detrimental like people are claiming.
Depends, I've ran into a couple of games that just don't want to run on windows 10 that i had no trouble playing with windows 7, even in compatibility mode. But aside from that, it does not affect the games it does run whatsoever, positively or negatively.

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Based off of my experience for Windows 10 as a gaming platform were mediocre.
I (Along with some other people) have a low-spec machine. Windows 10 runs poorly and in term do all games.
So why use Windows 10 rather than Windows 7 anyways? Windows 7 is aesthetically more pleasing and Windows 10 doesn't have much more features to bring to the table anyways, So why upgrade? Its a waste of performance and money when compared to earlier versions.

>>387163056
I personally feel that sudo appget [program] is more convenient than having to hunt down the website of every program you might want to download, but I guess it's a preference thing.

>>387164045
Why can't both be a thing?

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The year is 2031. You've managed to escape from the FEMA camp you were forced into after a false flag dirty bomb attack was used to enact nation wide martial law.

As you run desperately toward the horizon you choke on the air full of aluminum oxide. Routine chem trailing ensures that only Monsanto's genetically modified creations grow, preventing criminal dissidents from growing their own food supply.

As you reach the top of a small hill you come face to face with the military's latest patrol-bot. In a fraction of a second the machine's sophisticated camera and computer system analyze your face and scan the biometric data in your subdermal implant.

Immediately the drone opens fire, cutting you down in a hail of bullets that were manufactured in China.

As you sputter out your final breath your one final thought is, "It was just more convenient…"

>>387163974
Literally everything.

>>387164084
Well, there's this for windows https://chocolatey.org/

I don't know if you can get it the other way around on Linux though.

>>387147278
Have multiple devices and only use the Win10 one for gaming and nothing else!

>>387164045
That's the equivalent of an app store though. Only works if what you want has been preapproved by the distribution.

>>387163625
Unless you don't use public ISPs, Google, any proprietary browser, any proprietary OS, any smart phone, any free email service, and filter every single packet through a premium VPN you shouldn't act all high and mighty over there by yourself.

>>387152151

>Windows 10 uses less ram and disk space than 7, boot faster too

You disgusting fucking liar. Win 7 x64 uses only 800mb of ram without programs, Win 10 uses 2GB. The only thing right about your post is boot time.

Kill Yourself, shill.

>>387163563
Microsoft won't. But didn't you know that Discord is a botnet and save eveything you typ?

>>387147278
>What's wrong with thing, ignoring the major issue?

Well good job nigger, nothing's wrong

>>387164186
Ninite has every single app/program you would need

>>387164409
... if you're a really boring person

Like, ninite helps a lot with the initial setup but come on

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>>387147703
He looks so terrified being surrounded by blacks.

>>387163974

Win 10 only starts being good if you have a strong machine. For mid and low end computers, it is just a waste of RAM and a CPU fucker.

The only reason to use Win10 is DirectX12. DX is the only thing that makes me upgrade my SO, but at the time, there is not a single Dx12 game that I'm interested in.

>>387164474
>... if you're 99.9% of the population

>>387164538

He looks like that always.

>>387164563
I use Win10 and DX12 is a fucking meme. Nothing uses it. Vulkan is much more common.

>>387164385
Well then I'm giving discord admins plenty of fap material and pictures of my dick. enjoy!

>>387163974
>low-spec machine.
Post speccy
>>387164325
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/07/faster-booting-smaller-footprint-make-windows-10-an-easy-upgrade-for-old-pcs/
You're probably confusing fresh install with prefetch and caching.

>>387148686
Dual boot GNU/Linux with Windows 7 or something. Most games should run fine with WINE anyway but it's always good to have a Windows partition just in case.

>>387164293
>there can be no middle ground, and putting in effort to protect yourself at all is only worth it if you're completely isolated

No. It would be stupid to expect people to complicate their lives so much that it consumes them. But there are things that require minimal effort, and not using a blatantly anti-privacy OS like W10 is one of them.

There is no one perfectly shut off from danger, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try taking steps to ensure it as much as they can/are willing to.

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>>387164325
Don't know what system you were on, my window's 10 processes use less than 220mb.

>>387164695
I thought it was really funny when Discord told people to stop posting loli.

>>387147595
Windows 10 warns an hour before that it will restart and you can postpone it. This guy is a just a normie pleb retard.

>>387164746
>But there are things that require minimal effort,
Liking using a VPN and staying off of Google products and services, I agree.

Stop being a hypocrite.

>>387164619
No, He usually has a smug cuck look on his face because he's usually surrounded by fellow leftist light skinned millennials or his armed security detail.

He looks visibly shaken having to stand in a church and shoulder to shoulder with blacks he doesn't know and who don't own multi-million homes or wear yarmulkes. He should have practiced smiling and acting comfortable.

>>387161648
I should be wiser like you anon.

Hopefully in a few more years I'll be better at picking my battles.

>>387164827
A VPN is something you have to be able to afford, so that is not automatically minimal effort.

And don't call me a hypocrite when you know nothing about how much effort I put into my own protection.
I am discussing the kind of minimal expectations I have of the average Joe, and this is an appeal to him. I'm not asking them to live in the woods with domestically generated electricity, I'm saying that there's easy ways to protect yourself. Advocating for the use of W10 is counter to that effort, hence the condemnation.

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>>387164894

>>387147595
you can just disable this shit in regedit

>>387162042
And I read the EULA and general service agreement in november 2016 for work and I saw nothing in there that said conclusively "Here is all we're allowed to collect".

It was more like "MS reserves the right to collect all necessary data for performance metrics/improvement" which is basically a blank check.

>>387149131
Same, Win7 is the patrician OS