Does anyone else suffer from the "Dark Souls effect"?

it made me appreciate non-broken and finished games more

anyone else never played Dark Souls and doesn't give a flying fuck about it?

>>387128621
It's the opposite for me. While I really do enjoy the Souls games, the whole "it's perfect" meme is fucking blow overboard. Sometimes it's nice to break away from the jank of the Souls series.

>>387128621
I just stopped the audio playing in the background to focus on saying this to you.

YOU ARE A FAGGOT.

I got ds3 back in november or so, and since then I have consistently come back to it, unfortunately I haven't played any other souls games except a little bit of bb

>>387128889
It must have been very stressful for you to pause your gay porn in order to type that informative post.

>>387129028
Was it good gay porn at least?

>>387129063
If he had to pause it in order to concentrate enough to type two lines, then it must be very loud and with a very involved plot line.

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>>387128621
I actually suffer from something similar called the "Senran Kagura effect", or "Titty ninja effect" to some.

i.e. i played Senran Kagura once and can never enjoy another game as much. Not even Dark Souls can match it.

>>387128621
My fucking faggot nigga.

>perfect levels
>memorable, challenging boss fights
>great artstyle

>>387128621
Nah I'm quite the opposite. After playing Dark Souls, I'm way way more appreciative of games with good combat like Nioh.

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Soulsborne are fine ass games. Remember Demon's Souls releasing in the height of cinematic AAA cancer and changed everything.

>>387129170
>not watching high-quality German dungeon gay porn with an intricate storyline and excellent character development
I think you really are the faggot here

>>387128621
Everything after Anor Londo is awful.

>>387129270
>Demon's Souls

I'm actually shocked it even caught on as much as it did.

I almost feel like it's arbitrary that so many critics enjoyed it. Not saying it's bad, but going with the current trend at the time it just seems it would get blasted by critics for being unfair and badly designed (even if it wasn't).

>>387129270
IMO it was just a bump in the road for the standard AAA industry. Nothing's been learned and games are still going the same way.

>>387129292
>German
Scat is a niche fetish, you can't expect everyone to be into that.

>>387129358
They were really smart marketing it as a hard game so when people got wrecked they knew that's what the game was about.

In truth its difficulty is no harder than the average Jap game of the 90's. It's just that Souls games are going back to that era of die and die some more.

I play games like Ass Creed where dying is impossible and I feel like there's no incentive to explore the game's mechanics because I'm already winning abusing roll and counter,

>>387129449
>marketing

No, I'm talking about Demons Souls. It had absolutely no marketing.

>>387128621
>Does anyone else suffer from the "Dark Souls effect"?
>
>I.e. you play Dark Souls once and can never enjoy another game as much.
For me it was quite different. I was dissapointed in games and couldn't play modern games for long because how boring they were. Dark Souls changed it

>>387128621
If anything it proves people have zero fucking taste, because difficulty is measured by how frustrating controls are.

Dark souls fanboys are the worst fucking shitters in reality, because it's the kind of faggots that say git gud, but can't even be fucked to learn anything else. As if praise is bestowed for mastery over repetition. DS is essentially I wanna be the guy for casuals.

Sort of? I used to enjoy stuff like God of War and other "cinematic" third person action games, not after Dark Souls.

>>387129563
>by how frustrating controls are.
But Dark Souls games have extremely fluid and responsive controls. Have you even played the game or are you just leaking shit because people like games on /v/?

>>387128704
Sorry for your loss

>>387128621
No, because I'm not autistic and actually try to enjoy the games I play instead of trying to compare them to every single game I have played.

>>387128621

Itll pass. There are tons of games that do things better than dark souls. Its just that the first time is pretty much incredible and you are doing yourself a favour playing it since it giving hope of similar experiences in the future. Brain loves positive conditioning forsome purpose

>>387129697
>extremely fluid and responsive controls
That's not what dark souls is though. Have you played the game or are you being contrarian to my post, because I shat on your dreams.

Dark souls is simply based off repetition and bad camera angles. It is to a strict point I wanna be the guy for casuals.
Praising artificial difficulty due to clunkiness is not good game design. People praising it means gaming is dead. But I assure you, beating my dick into a car door is more satisfying.

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>>387128621
No because by the late/end game, the player has to go through

>badly placed embers and a weapon enhancement system that's clearly unfinished.
>weird weapon placements that make no sense
>badly balanced PvP and shitty matchmaking criteria for both parties
>no option to respec character
>bosses specifically created for player groups
>badly placed locations e.g painted world, DLC

DS is very memorable and really good at many things but it has many obvious flaws, especially for a AAA game.

Worst of all DS2 fixes many of these yet /v/ hates it for some reason.

>>387129831
You are factually changing your arguments because you got ousted as a fat liar you are holy shit.

> because difficulty is measured by how frustrating controls are.
That's what you said. Your actual words. I don't know what cinematic garbage you love to dickride but it sure as hell won't beat DaS controls. You are free to name some, but you won't. Because you don't want to oust yourself a cocksucker more than you already have.

>>387128621
I've never played a Souls game or Bloodborne.

Should I? What's so good?

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>>387128704
>I think I'm superior for playing less games

>>387129830
>positive conditioning is based around negative repetition
Good job Pavlov you deserve to have your head beaten in with a bell.

>>387129512
>>387129449
word of mouth marketing, basically.

All I ever heard about Demon's Souls back in the day was that it was super difficult.

Demon's Souls also had a lot of other things that appealed to shit game reviewers at the time. There were two things reviewers of the time were gushing over. "Cinematic" games and games that had a huge amount of well done character customization and variety thanks to CoD. Demon's Souls had the latter

>>387128704
I kind of make it a personal goal to complete every game that's considered to be "timeless" (OoT, FF7, Mario 64...). IMO not playing games like Dark Souls is doing yourself a disservice.

>>387129892
You want me to really boil it down, okay.
Frustrating controls equates to bad camera, bad hit boxes, built in input delay for muh realistic combat swings. Would you like me to continue or do you like swilling shit all day.

>>387129913

stimulus good game
stimulus fun

remove stimulus good game replace with ok game
stimulus fun

????

>>387130007
>Frustrating controls equates to bad camera
If you know how to toggle between locked and free form, it's good.

>bad hit boxes
Only Das2

>built in input delay for muh realistic combat swings
You have no idea what this even means. Dark Souls has less input delay than other melee action games like Assassin's Creed and Witcher 3.

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Abandon this thread.

You all are fucking idiots.

>>387128621
>Falseflagging this hard
>>387128704
You should try it, it's actually pretty good.

>>387130007
Still making up imaginary points eh? Still haven't named a game that does any of that better unless it's a straight up DMC-like game. Interms of gameplay, DaS is the king of RPGs.

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>>387128621
I have that with certain genres I guess.

For action games, it's wonderful 101 and No More Hero's

For Rpg's It's Nier and Dragons Dogma (darksouls really isn't that great)

I dunno, there aren't any penultimate games for all genre's.

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>>387130007
I know this is probably either bait or an extremely butthurt bad but biting anyways

>bad camera
You've never played a game with a bad camera if you think Dark Souls has a bad camera. Try playing the old Sonic Adventure games then come back to me, I've never died a single time because of the camera in Dark Souls, although I'll admit the Loran Darkbeast in Bloodborne and the King of the Storm in Dark Souls 3 made me struggle with the camera, but those are two different games.

>bad hit boxes
hitboxes in Dark Souls are very fair, the closest to BS that happens is getting hit by the backswing of attacks which doesn't make sense realistically but is fair since you can see it happening. Go play the original Monster Hunter if you want to see what bad hitboxes actually look like.

>built in input delay for muh realistic combat swings

There is no noticeable input delay in Dark Souls. Your attacks having a wind-up to them is not the same as input delay. It is also incredibly fair, considering all the enemies in the game have the same wind up and cooldown to their attacks, giving you ample time to dodge and hit them.


Most gamers these days grew up only playing triple A 2000s games that are bad because they are soulless, not because they are broken, so when people encounter anything slightly difficult or annoying they decry the game for not being safe as fuck.

No people like you have actually played a game with truly broken mechanics. Please, treat yourself to some older games that weren't Triple A to see what actual bad mechanics look like.

>>387130136
rolling for STR-FTH buffman

I did but I eventually got burnt out. I clocked in about 800 hours into DaS1 (and I know some of you have easily done double that) and by the time DaS3 rolled around I honestly barely enjoyed it because I think I was just so burnt out on the souls gameplay.

Its also why I think I enjoyed bloodborne as much as I did since it breathed new life into a style of gameplay that I very much enjoyed but started to get tired of.

>>387128621
It's clearly flawed but it still sets a bar that is higher than a large chunk of current videogames.

>>387129358
>That Zero Punctuation review compared with his current stance on the games
I've never paid much attention to reviews (often to my detriment I assume) but I have to assume that there was a fair amount of other criticism of this.

>>387129853
>badly placed embers and a weapon enhancement system that's clearly unfinished.
This doesn't seem to be the case in any way. If anything the later games fuck it up by streamlining weapon enhancement far too much.
>weird weapon placements that make no sense
I don't get this either.
>bosses specifically created for player groups
There aren't any I can think of.
>badly placed locations e.g painted world, DLC
As was the case for the embers being somewhat obscure and missable isn't necessarily a bad thing.
DaS2 is also a clearly unfinished game even by prior standards.

>>387130537
>There aren't any I can think of.

Literally only dark souls 2, the DLC had challenge bosses that were designed with co-op in mind.

Especially 2cat.

>>387128646
Pretty much this.

>>387130537
>This doesn't seem to be the case in any way. If anything the later games fuck it up by streamlining weapon enhancement far too much.

Weapon enhancement system should be straightforward so that players can focus on the actual game than traverse the entire map to find an early-game fire ember. Also you have "Raw" and "Enchantment" upgrades being inferior to "Normal" and "Magic" because the devs left the game unfinished.

>>387130680
Raw is supposed to be inferior you clueless fuck. You choose a big upgrade at the cost of not being able to upgrade further.

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>>387128621
>Replay it a few days ago
>Up to the Four Kings
>"Let's try Great Magic Barrier!"
>mfw 10 hp damage per hit
Holy shit I have never used that miracle, Havel was a fucking stonewall

demon's souls and dark souls were good games, but i never understood le fucking HYPEEEE that they got... like, they're passable because they have good world design and interesting enemies, but compared to something like devil may cry i just don't see the appeal. i enjoyed the game, but thinking that every other game is worse just because it's not dark souls? are you insane? lol

>>387128621

Nah, coming from demon souls, dark souls felt rushed and broken.

>>387130958
Because these games also worked as a callback to older RPGs so it appealed to PCfags who felt jaded after years of shitty games.

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>>387129184
>dark souls
>perfect levels
>challenging boss fights
Is this the shitposting general? I mean seriously - challenging boss fights? Did we play the same fucking game?

>>387131016
what older rpgs are you referring to???

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>>387128621
>t. 15 years old

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>>387131049
Lemme guess, first try blind.

>>387131152

now this shitpost is an exquisite meme

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>>387129184
lost izalith, demon ruins, 10 fps blighttown, anor londo, and the duke's archives are perfect levels? as in, there is absolutely nothing that could have been done to make them any better?

>>387131204
As opposed to your great comment entirely devoid of context.

>I-it's EZ! G-g-git gud scrub!

>>387131152
No, they took me a few tries, but considering that's literally one boss in a game with over two dozen I don't see how that's a even a remotely relevant point. The difficulty of that fight is seriously exaggerated anyways and the only people that think O&S are actually challenging (especially compared to DaS3 or Bloodborne bosses) are retarded memesters. The only difficult bosses in the entirety of the game are in the DLC

>>387130680
The actual game is in exploration and thinking about how to overcome what you're up against. The early game fire ember lies on the route that you would normally take to Blight town and there are various ways you can get your weapon to a higher level with different embers or acquire a higher level weapon along the way. The later game upgrades are even a fair bit better because each late game zone focuses on a particular infusion.
Raw is just a way to get around not investing stats and Enchantment relies more on your scaling. Of course there are going to be less useful upgrade paths.
DaS3 easily has the worst upgrade system though. It's the most straightforward with only one upgrade material for each path, the one that designates how high your upgrade level should be based on how far you are into the game by dumping you with upgrade material, only one central smith and also has the most useless infusions.

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These threads all boil down to people scrutinizing Dark Souls but consider this:

Dark Souls isn't perfect, no game ever will be and the game, especially the 2nd half, has plenty of flaws scattered among the good bits.

Dark Souls was released during a time when games, especially console games, were being dumbed down to the point of being unrecognizable. Most games that were released just tried to cash in on the success of another title, and games were replacing game design with "cinematic experiences," knowing that they could get away with worse writing than in the movie theater.

When most people played Dark Souls 6 years ago, it was, for the first time in a long time, a real ass game. A game that went back to older game design and tested and challenged players and let everything it was settle in the gameplay. Even the storytelling was entirely done with the environment.

When you're flaming Dark Souls, think more about its impact on the industry than anything else. Would you rather live in a world with dark souls never have being released?

Souls babies need to stfu

>>387131152
actually yea, considering I had a +5 black knight weapon that basically killed them in five hits. calling dark souls difficult when I get go through the entire game one-shotting or poisebreaking every enemy with an R1 is a fucking joke. all the enemies that might actually be threatening can just be parried or chain backstabbed anyways.

Dark Souls ruined gaming. Prove me wrong protip: you can't

>>387131369
>The only difficult bosses in the entirety of the game are in the DLC
Fucking hilarious considering the DLC bosses are quite easy compared to O&S. Dealing with one singular guy is always way easier than two that each have their own moveset. I first tried all DLC bosses with the exception of the dragon. And I bet that's fairly common.

And bloodborne bosses? Cleric beast and Wet nurse were the only ones that gave me any trouble. Difficulty in bloodborne is greatly exaggerated to somehow denigrate DaS and DeS.

I have a similar issue to OP after watching The Raid. Every fight scene in other movies feels fake, now.

>>387131450
I liked DaS3's upgrade system the best
>one upgrade material for each path
thank god, why did I have to farm bullshit enemies for hours
>only one central smith
there was no need to have a billion blacksmiths you were forced to walk to, I like having a comfy smith at home base the best.
>useless infusions
this is completely wrong, pretty much every infusion in Dark Souls 3 is useful for one build or another. Dark Souls 1 had, on the other hand
>Crystal
absolutely useless, pretty much ruins your weapon completely since it puts your weapon on a very short durability timer that can't be reversed
>Occult
literally worse divine
>enchanted
worse magic
>Raw
completely outclassed by lightning
>Fire
completely outclassed by lightning

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>>387128621
In retrospective, it wasn't perfect. At all. BUT it offered me more than any other game in years, great challenge and overcoming it, metroidvania-esque level design, countless of new mechanics, sense of mystery and exploration and getting better by learning more and actually playing the game. Having no quest markers and tight narrative was seriously everything I needed after skyrim etc. It wasn't a perfect game but it made me realize what I love about videogames: "go and explore". Sorry for the image btw

>>387129995
you sound like a real brainlet

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>It's another "Dark Souls fans have autism" thread

>>387131662
Actually, I can. Portal was released before Dark Souls. Done.

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>>387131678
>manus easier than o&s
do you have any opinions that aren't completely retarded nonsense

>>387131942
Still better than the the "game" that is Kark Shit.

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>>387131545
This desu, but remember that Dark Souls is pretty much the same thing as Demon's Souls, only with a new, interconnected world. It was DeS that was the real breakthrough, Dark Souls simply got a wider audience because it released on more platforms.

Also, I don't feel like those games had that much of an impact on the industry. I bet most "gamers" who praise Dark Souls killed the gargoyles with help from summoned players, then called it a day and went back to braindead cinematic experiences.

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>>387131925
>have gaming as a hobby
>don't want to beat games that a good amount of people consider 10/10

>>387131545
Absolutely this. You've nailed it

>>387128621
people seems the screech about how great the bosses are but these same people probably have never played MGR: Revengence, now that game has top notch boss fights

>>387131826
>pretty much every infusion in Dark Souls 3 is useful
Poison was useless, as was bleed until recently. But you're right otherwise; upgrades in DaS were the ultimate unfinished system. DaS2 did upgrades pretty well I thought

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>>387128621
Sounds you are just retarded OP

There are a lot of good games out there

>>387131958
Artorias is harder than Manus. What have you been smoking?

I played through all the Dark Souls games and it gave me inspiration to mod skyrim to play like Dark Souls, ty miyazaki

>>387131975
The influx of normalfags generated by Portal far outweighs soulbabby autism in terms of damage to the industry.

>>387131930
How is this post>>387131545
autism? He perfectly puts why Dark Souls is a good game based on the context of its times.

>>387131678
>And bloodborne bosses? Cleric beast and Wet nurse were the only ones that gave me any trouble.
yea you didn't have any trouble with ludwig or orphan right? how fucking retarded do you have to be to think that o&s are objectively more difficult than a boss like orphan. just off yourself fanboy fuck

>>387132057
At least Portal used an original concept rather than some inbred jap copying his favorite manga series for 4 games in a row.

>>387128621
thre are no games that come even near of Das Des or BB, breath of the wild, jorney, shadow of the colossus and mgs and silent hill series are good but not allaround good like fromshit.

>>387132130
I was talking about the base game tbqh. Still haven't played the DLC. It didn't particularly impress me so I didn't feel the need to put in more time.

Maybe I will one day considering all the good shit I heard about old hunters.

>>387132174
What does that have to do with ruining gaming? You're moving away from your original point.

>>387132061
It's still autism

Just because it came out when most games were shit doesn't mean it "saved video games". That's most autistic statement you could make to inflate the importance of the game. There would always be a game that goes against the grain, it doesn't mean you have to circlejerk it to high hell.

In comparison movies are generally pretty shitty right now, however just because a 7/10 comes along doesn't mean everyone has to admire it as the movie that saved cinema.

The game isn't that fucking good hombre

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>>387131978
>DeS was the real breakthrough.

Kind of. DeS fans are gonna be mad at me for this but I think DaS was a lot more polished than DeS was. The general quality of levels and bosses went up dramatically in DaS.

Also DaS had a lot of combat improvements, Estus system was ingenius, and the open world helped a lot.

You're right that DeS introduced the concept, however, but I think Dark Souls took it the next step it needed to go.

>I bet most "gamers" who praise Dark Souls killed the gargoyles with help from summoned players, then called it a day and went back to braindead cinematic experiences.

I don't think this is true, I think the only people who praise Dark Souls are people who actually enjoyed it. Nobody would praise a game if they just put it down after the 2nd boss.

Also, the industry impact was proving to the mass market publishers that games that relied on gameplay and games with what was previously thought to be "dated" design by most of the industry and journalists could sell, and sell extremely well at that.

I don't think we'd have games today like Breath of the Wild and Resident Evil 7 if not for the influence of Dark Souls.

>>387128621
A little.
But, in a way, playing them has also made me become more critical of the gameplay and combat of the Souls games itself.
After playing Souls, NG, DMC, and a few PC melee-centric games like M&B/Chivalry... I've come to the conclusion no 3D games have good melee systems outside of fighting games.

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>>387131678
>Dealing with one singular guy is always way easier than two that each have their own moveset.
>Fume Knight is easier than Graverobber, Varg and Cerah
>Orphan of Kos is easier than Merciless Watchers
>Slave Knight Gael is easier than Lothric and Lorian
How dumb do you have to be to actually fall for the "O&S is the best boss fight ever made" meme

>>387132324
your conclusions are shitty and dumb

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>>387132235
>didn't play the most challenging content in series history
>yea the game was easy haha dark souls was harder ;^)
also you had more trouble with mergo than logarius or gherman? are you just seeing how much stupid shit you can post in a single thread or what

>>387132295
Posts like this is why people put the Darksouls fanbase between Sonic and Minecraft

>>387131826
>thank god, why did I have to farm bullshit enemies for hours
You generally didn't have to
>there was no need to have a billion blacksmiths you were forced to walk to, I like having a comfy smith at home base the best.
Exclusively having everything at home base was shit.
>DaS3 has useful infusions
You have sharp, heavy, quality and hollow. Those are your good infusions. Everything else is shit or it's Blessed weapon which doesn't belong in the game because it's something you put on some off-hand weapon to outright regen health by doing nothing. Simple was only useful while you were capable of firing off WA with 1 FP and is otherwise in the same category as Blessed weapon in terms of how much it just doesn't belong.
>Crystal
Crystal was a damage boost above anything else and could still be maintained by continuously upgrading the weapon.
>Occult
With specific damage boosts against specific enemies as well as better scaling. It was better off sometimes as far as I'm aware.
>Raw
No split damage though which I'm fairly certain was still an issue in 1.
>Fire
As opposed to all of the elemental infusions in DaS3 being useless.

No, there are many, many games that are better than Dark Souls.

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>>387132484
Holy shit you have one humongous persecution complex. Where did I say the game was easy? I said the difficulty is greatly exaggerated, because it is. I also never said Dark souls was harder than Bloodborn. BB fanboys I swear.

Also, I'm not required to play your shitty DLC pack to judge the base game and obviously personal experiences differ when it comes to bosses, I remember Logarius folding really quickly for example.

>>387132249
It didn't "save video games" but you can't deny its positive impact on the industry.

It was the first game pretty much since 2006 to have been marketed at an exclusively hardcore market and still sold triple A numbers.

When companies are out there watching their sales numbers drop for games that are supposed to be their cash cows and were released with dumbed down gameplay (Resident Evil 6, Skyward Sword) they look at Dark Souls for guidance and took inspiration from its more retro design philosophy (Resident Evil 7, Breath of the Wild)

No, I'm not underage.

>>387130136
rollando

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>>387132717
>Old Hunters
>shitty DLC
did you even play bloodborne or what

>>387132295
DkS1 has much much worse combat than Dark Souls outside of Estus being better than grass.
>>387132353
No, they're spot on. Melee games are lacking if you play fighting games.

>>387132815
Oh here it comes. BB fanboys last defense. ''Y-you didn't really play the game!"

>>387132837
I have thousands of hours in marvel and I'm a ranked project M player and Devil May Cry is one of my favorite series for the combat

>>387132718
>to have been marketed at an exclusively hardcore market
Not him, but gonna disagree there. It was marketed to the wannabe hardcore market -- 'Prepare to Die' was one of the most embarrassing ad campaigns for vidya that generation

Souls games also aren't really hard, there can be some difficulty with execution (but nothing like say F-Zero GX) but there are no consequences and the game requires no forward-thinking or planning at all, I think that's what a truly hard game is, one where you can fuck yourself 30 minutes in and not even realize until hours later, prompting a restart, not one with somewhat difficult execution and no consequences.

>>387132837
there's some single player 3D games that have the depth of fighters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma3zKo4IaLU&t=297s

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>>387132717
You literally said that the difficulty was exaggerated and then openly admitted to not playing the part of the game that everyone describes as excruciatingly difficult.

Also calling a DLC that is commonly regarded as one of the best ever made "shitty" when you haven't even played it makes you come off as a fucking idiot.

>>387132324
Mount & Blade's system is actually really good though.

Simple != bad

>>387132886
marketing doesn't care if people are "wannabes" or not.

The game, plain and simple, said it was extremely difficult right on the box. Judge people who would buy that kind of thing how you would, but you can't argue its effectiveness and how that effectiveness contradicted the casual trend of the time.

>>387132914
Execution is not difficulty or depth.

A game like Q3 or Q4 is a way deeper competitive game than any fighting game, despite execution being arguably easier.

>>387132862
Not him, but I don't think I've ever heard anyone whose actually played the game criticize the DLC.

>>387128621
its a shit game both pve and pvp wise

>>387132863
I feel sorry for you then if you think the state of combat in 3D games is good when even simple shit like SC2 hasn't been surpassed yet. Also, melee blows, and I'm not surprised a Mahvel player like singleplayer Mahvel (DMC), but you're allowed to like shit games.

>>387132991
>extremely difficult

Except it's not

Maybe if you are underage you could have that opinion

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>>387132991
>marketing doesn't care if people are "wannabes" or not.
Wrong. It does care if people want to be hardcore, because that's how you market it if you're looking at that group; you pitch your product as a badge of honour, as something that will make them hardcore if they own and play it -- you feed their desire to feel accomplished regardless of the real difficulty of the product. That's exactly how marketing works: you find out what your target audience wants, and you find ways of showing that your product is precisely that.

>>387133121
fuck off kpopbabby

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>>387132942
>part of the game
It's not part of the game, you dummy. When I played the game it wasn't out yet, that can't be too difficult to understand for even your peanut sized brain.

And obviously I wasn't judging the quality of the DLC when I even admitted earlier how I'm even considering playing it later. Christ, I was just referring to DLCs in general being shitty. Esp when they're used to justify the quality of the game, like in DaS2. There's a reason we don't consider NWN2 and Oblivion to be great games even though they each had a piece of amazing DLC.

>>387132914
One-way street problem.
Defense isn't fleshed out, and you don't commit to fuckall.

>>387133240
I don't know how you can expect a single player game to give you the same type of mental challenge as another human can and then call them bad when they can't

>>387128621
I beat Dark Souls several weeks ago and now I'm enjoying playing Megaman Zero. Does that mean Megaman Zero is the bestest videogame of all time?

>>387133341
Yes

If you like a game it's the best ever

Just make sure you make threads like this one every hour on /v/ so everyone knows

>>387132558
lmao and infusions are much better in das1 or das2? all of these games have useless ele infusions, like enchanted bleed and mundane in das2 which are utterly useless or very situational

>>387133275
Don't worry, it's just me, m8.
I want a game that has emphasis on offense (DMC) as well as a game that has emphasis on defense (Souls), while not feeling too spammy and lacking spacing (DMC) or feeling too simplistic (Souls).

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>>387133025
Das 9/10
Das + dlc 10/10
BB 8/10
BB + dlc 10/10
Das3 8/10
Das3 + dlc 9/10

>>387130136
ROLLING. I'm always down for another play through

>trying to play some NOT Souls game
(buurn the heretic!!! xD hahahaaa but cmon guys sometimes you have to try something different you know? LOL)
>has modern textures from this century
>good animations
>physics make sense
>theres a story
>can view distant landscapes instead of photoshop's default Radial blur setting
>they could afford proper voice acting
>consistent game logic where i learn how the world works instead of trial and error vs invisible 1-hit KO traps

and im just like OOMGGG NOT SOULS amirite reddit? just give me MUH SOULSBORNE uughh!!! baka+

#SoAddicted #PraiseTheSun xD

>>387130136
>binoculars: you know damn why
explain this as i'm new to dark souls

>>387130136
is there one for SOTFS and DS3? kinda bored of DS1

>>387128621
What effects are you using the make the game look that good? I don't recall DS looking that nice.

>>387133503
You mean I'm free to like any games as long as I find it fun? You must be joking.

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>>387128621
Quite the opposite. I enjoy almost every other game way more since I played the overrated, NeoGAF franchise that is Dark Souls.

Take the disgusting 1/10 archery alone and compare it to Dragon's Dogma, Monster Hunter or Zelda archery.

I will never understand how this braindead cancer could get so popular. OK, I understand it, but it's bad.

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>>387128704
I finished it and do yourself the favor and never play this overrated cancer. No music throughout the whole game, boring corridors, shit framerate despite PS2 graphics, blocked by everything, even small fences, no puzzles, no clever platforming, no depth at all. It's literally (FUCKING LITERALLY) a dodge simulator.

>>387134063
>Zelda
wew, possibly the one franchise more overrated than Souls. They're barely even video games.

>>387134063
>Playing Dark Souls for archery.
christ anon, you just outed yourself as a shitter.

>>387132484
>challenging content
really testing those dodge button pushing skills

souls games are closer to rhythm games than action games

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>>387134063
Please don't tell me you tried to play the whole game with a bow.

No, playing Demon's Souls right after made me realize how boring Dark Souls is in comparison.

>>387134334
Not him but you could make the same critique about DMC and replace "dodge mashing" with "attack mashing."
Melee games suck ballsack, they're just limited aside from fighting games.

>>387134295
>hurr you played the game wrong!
in case of das3, that also means using magick, summoning, using any weapon but straightsword, using shields, using heavy armor

>>387134514
Dark Souls 3 is a piece of shit in it's own right, hiw is that related. Yes, you played the game wrong.

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>>387133576
das3 dlcs were a huge disappointment
aoa was short and uninspired snowy corrupted area with annoying enemies and shitty bosses
trc was "check out this amazing city you won't get to explore lel" bait and switch with damage sponge enemies and bosses

I get more joy out of System Shock 1 and Theif: The Dark Project than I got from this one, therefore, the answer is surely no.

>Dark Souls
>patrician
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>387133576
As much as I love DaS first half and DLC, I really can't forgive that second half. I'd forgotten how simply not fun it is to go through until I replayed it recently. You don't feel it as much in the first playthrough, but when replaying it's a flagrant fuck-up. I'd even justify your DaS score if they had REMOVED the second half and sent you straight to Gwyn after Anor Londo, or maybe keep the Tomb of Giants for the unique factor. What a waste...

You're right about DaS3 though, it had little original content in it, but the smooth combat and best bosses in the series especially in TRC justify the score you gave it.

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>>387133576
>Das + dlc 10/10
No. Too many shit areas, unfinished systems, boring combat, and crap bosses. DaS is an 8/10 at best

I played Dark Souls and I felt that for a week or so, then I picked up RE1 and i'm hooked as shit.

>>387130136
aousbdiauwbdipuawbd

>>387131152
I did, but with Crystal Ring Shield Pre-Nerf.

does anyone just play games and not go on /v/ to try and shit on everyone's opinions and try to force others to like/dislike the games they enjoy?

discussion is one thing but god damn you autist shits cant discuss anything outside of how shit everyone else's opinion is but your own

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>>387133576
DeS 9/10
DaS 8/10
DaS2 6/10
BB 7/10
DaS3 6/10

>>387137751
this one is very accurate

I'm sort of like this but with other souls games. People always say you're first souls game is always your favourite which it is in this case dark souls, but not for the reason those cunts say.

It's because they turned every other souls game into fast paced basically anime fighter roll simulators that the only build worth making is dex.

I like dark souls so much because I actually felt like a human knight fighting horrible monsters. My first build was str based. Using a shield against bosses and having them knock you across the room with their strong attack. You have to time your dodges better because you're slower and not some flippy twink shit like in the rest if the games. Sure you CAN make a gay buttfuck build like that but at least I'm not forced into using it even over magic which is still some pretty like it in the ass homo stuff in souls. Demons is okay I guess.

>>387130136
ayy

>>387128621
It made me realize that I enjoy the metroidvania formula more than any other type of game, thats for sure.

>>387128621
I had the same with black dick, I can't enjoy others as much any more.

>>387140638
2002 called they want their joke back

>>387128621
not really, perhaps you should try playing some good games, Dark Souls is just another good game out of many you could be playing

>>387140865
such as?

>>387128621
If you're underage that's probably your experience.

If you're not it just makes you realize how much we've come to accept these shitty beta-games as games over these recent years.

Although the few of us who have been yelling about all of the good games being used as a means to erode consumer power have been trying to shit this down your throat for years, games like this let people understand what they're missing.

>>387131049
Wow dude you're so good at videogames

>>387130136
huh

>>387131545
you mean Demon's Souls

As stupid as it sounds I have trouble enjoying other games after going balls deep in Crusader Kings 2. I know it's flawed, but other games just seem way too shallow. Most other strategy games don't give you enough fine control, and the few that do feel like spreadsheets. Even non-strategy games feel shallow afterwards. I've tried playing RPGs and they're all small-scale while pretending to be huge sprawling worlds. Mount and Blade and Total War are the same thing, interesting concepts but too shallow in terms of mechanics.

You fucking memers overhype the shit out of this overrated game, Dark Souls is good but its not THAT good, and isn't even as good as Demon's Souls

>>387128621
Well it certainly reminded me how casualized everything is these days. I had almost gotten used to it.

Also reminded me a good game isn't hard to make, it just needs the right ideas, and even average graphics and broken mechanics won't stop it from being good. Modern games just have zero good idea, they just focus on graphics and being so polished they lose their soul.

>>387130136
wew

>>387128704
then why are you in this thread retard?

I enjoyed Dark Souls because it felt like a PS2 game with the more polished input of the PS3. In terms of design it feels exactly like a PS2 game, just beefed up a little since the hardware can handle it. It made me wish games took that path instead of uncharted, but those PS2 games are still there. Onimusha still exists and it's still fantastic. I haven't tricked myself into thinking Dark Souls is the best game ever made, but it's did what it wanted to do very well.

>>387131152
I swear on everything i ever loved that I did them 1st try blind but i had solaire and was overleveled af, the game is still challanging tho

>>387144140
>overleveled af
damn nigga, how can you be overleveled at O&S?

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I got that from Dragons dogma desu

>>387144826
maybe he farmed the Giants, they give tons of souls

I enjoyed Dark Souls 1 but I gotta say the whole series are just bad games.

>>387128621
No? Dark Souls is an alright action game but it's not great or mindblowing

>>387128621
I swear this is the same engine as lost planet

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>>387129831
>bad camera angles
nanisore

>>387130136
KEEP ROLLIN ROLLIN ROLLIN

>>387128621

I get that but with Halo 3. Dark Souls is cool and all, but it gets really unpolished towards the end

>>387133935
just a bunch of dsfix settings. It's still an old ass game, just look at those trees.

>>387128621
Dark Souls may not be perfect but when I did play it, it was the first game in a long time I had played that fully captured my attention, when I played it my mind didn't wander and id spend hours being completely absorbed in the game, it was like I was a kid again playing my favourite game, not distracted by real world shit or worried I was wasting my time, it was just me and the game.

>>387128621
I have Tekken 7 to get my fix now.
Fighting games in general, fuck you hard at the beginning but reward you with some incredible moments once you start to gut gud.

>>387130136
Rolling rolling rolling

>>387130136
Rollando Gutierrez