>First 2D Metroid game in 13 years >Universally panned

>>387101671
No idea.

I hope someone answers.

>2d

art direction looks like booty cheeks same with sss remake.

Locking modes behind Amiibos, for starters. The art direction was also a major turn-off, at least for me. Other than those two, I don't know what else. I'm still rather pumped for it, though, been jonesing for a new 2D metroid, even if a remake, and who knows? Maybe the hard mode and such will be released in time as updates or they may just ditch the amiibo idea ent- hahahahahah...

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>>387101671
It's the new thing by the popular people anon.

>>387101671
>universally panned
daily reminder that underage contrarian summerfags are not real metroid fans and should be saged

>>387101671
/v/

Becauase it looks like junk. It's not rocket surgery, asshole.

>>387101671
/v/ went down the shitter

>>387101671
It's the disconnect between /v/ wanting a rehash of 20 year old games and Nintendo wanting to do something different these days.

>>387101671
>Universally panned on /v/ before the game is even out
Are you new here, my man? This happens with every Nintendo game.

>>387101671
People have had literally nothing but positive things to say about this game. Who should i beleive, AC fag, or people whove played the game?

>>387101783
Wrong on both accounts, both are superior to the original.

>>387101980
It's at least fortunate that you can get a hard mode without amiibos.

>>387101671
What do you expect? It looks bad. People won't accept a bad looking game just because it's the first one in a long time. Sadly, Nintendo has a very vocal part of their fanbase that defends everything they do.

>>387103010
What looks bad about it?

>>387101671
Nothing went wrong, there's already a better remake of 2 out there for free.

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>>387103061
>MercurySteam involvement
>Melee counter that adds to slow down the flow of the game and further trivialize combat
>360 aiming also seems to slow down and trivialize combat
>2.5D art direction genuinely looks awful
>Aeon abilities are given way too early and do too much

>>387103360
Maybe in a couple years all the models from samus returns will be ripped from the game so somebody can take credit for a game that is mostly stolen assets

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>got special edition on preorder
>have an amiibo spoofer so i can unlock all the bonus content without buying amiibos

You can post all the TF2 and Spongebob images you want I don't give a shit I'm gonna have fun and you can't stop me

>>387101671
/v/ isn't as hard on the game as it appears, because there's a vocal minority that makes threads to stir up shit around it almost every day. ACfag is the obvious one, and there's at least one more.

And don't take that as me claiming all the negativity is those people. I know the game doesn't look like some people's cup of tea because of the low-res graphics and the non-2D art style. I'm just saying that most of the venom isn't coming from them, but rather a few who are obsessed with their own irrational preconceived notions of what the game is going to be like.

>>387102581
>Who should i beleive, AC fag, or people whove played the game?
This is how I feel as well.

>>387101671
>>Universally panned on /v/ before the game is even out
You mean just like Federation Force and Hey! Pikmin, two good games that /v/ will never ever play but will still screech about until the end of time?

/v/ is full of whiners who shit on things they haven't even played. Who knew?

So is anyone hyped for post-game content? I would love to see something tie in Ceres Colony, maybe with a post-game superboss like Genesis from AM2R.

To quote 387103480. have they honestly confirmed a postgame story?

>>387104628
>>387104645
Sakamoto hinted at expanding on the relationship between Samus and the abby metroid.

>>387104628
Game will end with you replaying through Super's opening and then tease a remake of Super.
Screen cap this.

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>>387103695

Fuck off Cody

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>>387104628
What I want more than anything is after you beat the main story you get access to other episodic, shorter campaigns. Like individual bounty missions or merc stuff. You have the story of Metroid 2, and then after you have something like a Cowboy Bebop episode.

>>387101671
It had the gall to be made by Nintendo is what went wrong.

>>387104691
What fucking relationship? She puts it in a tube and hands it over to scientists for experimentation. Without remorse or hesitation. Even if she developed some sense of attachment it would obviously be after Super anyway.

>>387101671
>Universally panned on /v/ before the game is even out
Like every game?

>>387101671
People need to complain about something. I think it looks fine, enough to tide me over until Prime 4 at least.

>>387101671
>universally panned on /v/

Speak for yourself. I'm excited but I'm also pirating it, so my opinion doesn't matter.

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>>387103537
>tfw burgerland
Fucking NoA. That European special edition looks awesome; I wish I could get it.

>>387104785
whoever made this is way more of an autist than cody

>>387104691
Oh. So it's gonna be post game LORE. That's just dandy.

>as I handed the baby metroid over to be scientifically experimented on and possibly dissected, I was reminded of daddy adam who told me that I'm only allowed to go to the bathroom in the toilet because I have emotional problems and need medical assistance in day to day activities. Boy do I love being a mother, did I mention I'm a mother figure?

"10/10 emotional rollercoaster"-IGN

>>387105535
I too am a burger and all I am getting is a shitty soundtrack CD that has a bunch of music on it that I already possess.

But I do not care.

>>387104691
I'm hoping just some hint that the Pirates were tracing her. Like a retroactive guilt trip in Super when it clicks that she led them right to Ceres or something.

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>Caring about how /v/ views a game at all

I stopped caring when everyone shat themselves over Deus Ex HR's leak pretending they didn't say it was going to be shit.

If you decide your purchases based on what's Flavor of the Month here it just proves how much of a spineless bitch you are in reality. Find your own preferences and stick to them, nobody actually gives a fuck what you play.

>>387105889
I know it's a dumb detail, and probably nobody else will care, but I want to see some recreations from the opening scene of Super Metroid.

Samus shaking that guy's hand, everyone huddled around the sciencey tube thing (and the space pirates frothing angry that humans have developed tube techology to compete against theirs) and maybe even a large showcase of the Ceres Colony itself. I don't know about you, but the thought of an HD image of a giant metal flying donut in space sounds pretty cool.

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>>387106079
Furthermore, the implications are even funnier when you remember Other M's "bottle ship".

>it's shaped like a bottle because the baby metroid symbolism
>Ceres is shaped like a donut because it's actually a bakery with some science stuff onboard

>>387103427
>360 aiming also seems to slow down and trivialize combat

This is Metroid, the game series where you dash through enemies with speed boost's and super charged somersaults. Combat was hardly ever challenging except for boss battles and those were primarily damage sponges.

But I don't expect a Spongebob Nick Kiddie to understand that you can't wear rose-tinted glasses your whole life.

>2D
>shitty 3d graphics

What the fuck is this meme? If the game is 2d, it should use 2d art or a style like Guilty Gear uses. I don't care if it's fucking cheaper to do 3d, it's so much more aesthetically pleasing.

With all of the other issues in this game, if the art and music were as godlike as the previous 2d games, that alone would have been enough. But the garbage aesthetics on top of incredibly questionable gameplay choices, I ain't buying shit as big of a Metroidfag as I may be.

I'm just about ready to give up on video games.

>>387106079
I have a feeling that they will do a Super Metroid Remake down the line. Even Federation Force made Reference to it's intro in the post-credits.

>>387106375
You can't possibly screw up Super Metroid, right? Metroid 2's remake is a bit controversial to some people, but Super is pretty much a license to print money. Maybe not ALOT of money, but a good amount nonetheless.

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>>387101671
/v/ hates everything

the sooner you understand this, the easier it will be

>>387106479
I never understood the point of a fucking remake. Super Metroid is fantastic because it's Super Metroid, why change it? Why not just make a new goddamn game?

>>387106606
Remastered and/or remixed music, improved visuals (assuming sprites), and crispier gameplay, as well as the possibility for new content.

"but it's fine as it is" then play the original

>>387106479
I wouldn't want it because Nintendo could only fuck it up. Super is already perfect. The only direction for that game to go with a remake is down.

>>387106752
I can imagine a few things they could improve, but I guess it wouldn't warrant the risk of screwing everything else up.

>>387106720
>"but it's fine as it is" then play the original

No shit, but it's wasted effort that could be used on a NEW experience.

>>387106720
>new content
You mean like, A NEW GAME?

>>387106869
You bring up a good point. A perfect example of this is the Crash Bandicoot N Sane trilogy. Yeah, it's nice seeing the old gang back again, but if they can accurately emulate what made those games good (to a certain degree) then why not make a new game in that vein? Twinsanity wasn't really that bad, and from the remade trilogy they seemed to have learned their lesson from Crash of the Titans and Mind Over Mutant. Rehashing the past just feels like they're out of ideas.

>>387106869
>>387106901
I don't disagree with the sentiment, but what kind of answer did you expect when asking why something would be remade?

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>>387106869
>>387106901
Fucking this.

It's made by MercurySteam, the team behind the godawful Castlevania 3DS game. The game is going to be shit and I have no idea how anybody could be excited about this after MercurySteam's name was dropped on the livestream at E3 this year.

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>>387107027
Bingo.

>>387106606
>>387106869

Remaking an existing game is a good way to port the mechanics of a game to a new console. You can pour time and money into the game engine instead of level design and a lot of other dev work that comes with a completely new title. It also gauges interest in the franchise for the current generation before they pour time into a new installment.

>>387101671
I'm not a fan of 2.5D, I think the melee counter goes against the spirit of Metroid, and I'm not a fan of a game mode being locked behind a toy.
Still looking forward to it. We'll see how it turns out.

>>387106960
Remake the original trilogy to see if Crash is still or can become popular again. And since the remastered trilogy sold like hotcakes and was universally praised they can make a new game without worry. It also helps bring in a new generation of fans to support the series.

>>387106869
>>387106901
This game might as well be anew game with how much it changes compared to the orignal metroid 2

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>>387107027
and let's not forget this gem

>>387106995
Not him but I wouldn't worry too much about that, Metroid Dread is next. Sakamoto already hinted at it twice this year and Samus Returns has hints to it. The fact that Sakamoto and EPD are working with MercurySteam on this is a way to prepare MercurySteam for Metroid Dread on the 3DS. Fusion had the problem of missing things previous Metroid games had and was restricted:
>fucked up bomb jumping
>no one wall jumping
>no full exploration until the end of the game
>have to mostly collect all of Samus's upgrades in order
>players are given the map and told where to go
I'm guessing Sakamoto didn't want to run into these problems again and wanted MercurySteam to have experience with a classic Metroid game.

>>387107127

>72

Pretty good desu considering castlevania is a shit series and konami is awful and not even they know what to do with the series. I expect samus returns to be in the 80s

>>387101671
it's SHIT

>>387107367
Fusion has the best Shinespark sequence in the series though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI8FksvRyaM

As for Dread, I know I'm probably just dreaming, but I'd love for it to be 2D and on Switch.

>>387101671
>Play Hollow Knight
>The world is larger than any Metroid before it.
>The combat more exciting than any 2D Metroid.
>The movement is more fluid than even Zero Mission.
>All the collectables are varied, and feel significant to your character's growth. Not just the 30th missile expansion you'll never use.
>Music and sound design is on par.
>Developed by essentially 2 people.
And then the I began to doubt if Nintendo can create something as good.

>>387107549
It's most likely going to be either a 3DS game or a game for the 3DS's successor, but I can see it coming to the 3DS.

>>387107238
I suppose you have a point.

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>>387107640
Posting map.

>>387107640
>play hollow knight
>get bored 2 hours in

I guess the fantasy setting just bores me

>>387106901
Some people like a new spin on a classic. Granted this whole "new story by new writers thing" that's been going on in remasters does more harm than good. But I think there's a sweet spot in stuff like REmake where the basic story is the same but they fuck with you like when a Zombie suddenly pops up and goes Sanic fast.

>>387107640
Ok shill no one cares fuck off now.

>>387101671
They banned AM2R.

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>>387107868
>They banned a game that anyone with a computer can download for free

>>387107868
You do know AM2R was completed, released, and is never going away, right? And other people ahve been updating it. Nintendo didn't "stop" anything.

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>>387107868
That's just what Nintendo wants you to think. It's still out there, still being updated, and even has some cool new doodads. I'd recommend giving it a try if you find it.

>>387101671
/v/ hates video games

>>387107148
there is no game mode locked behind amiibos it's just a poorly made costume

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>>387107790
Posting the actual map. Not the simplified version for babbies.

>>387107853
>OP makes a topic soliciting opinions.
>Give my opinion
>Some butthurt anon claims no one cares, when clearly someone cared.

>>387101671
>Universally panned on /v/
Literally the only complaint is Amiibos, you idiot. And everyone always complains about Amiibos.

>>387108368
That's really not that much bigger than Super or even Fusion. It's just not divided up into sectors seperated by elevators like those games.

>>387101671
MercurySteam's past track record is far from great but the gameplay videos looks good and the people who've already played it all seem to like it so I'm cautiously optimistic.

>>387101671
>what the actual fuck went wrong?
/v/

>>387101671
It's not as good as Armored Core, so that means it's shit.

>>387108368
I didnt see op asking for damn shills. Fuck off that game sucks.

>>387101671
I have faith that it'll be good. There's nothing that I've see in gameplay videos that I dislike. The constant positives impressions also help distill worry

Everything that Sakamoto has made that's not Metroid Will be better than this Trash

Screencap me

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>>387108847
Hollow Knight's great though, it took the phenomenal world map design of Super Metroid with the combat from older Castlevanias and a few elements from the Souls games to make a really great experience.

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>>387107640
>>387107790
>>387107804
>>387107853
got the true ending for hollow knight.

Do not buy this game. I barely enjoyed it the whole way through. I am a long time player of castlevania and metroid games. This shit is so uninspired, so dull that the actual gameplay is a complete slog to play through. The game is piss easy and I never lost geo and even the last boss Radiance is easy as fuck.

The story is a straight up rip from dark souls.

>lol the king held the void at bay by using a hollow knight to absorb the light
>lol you are the chosen und-er hollow knight and for the true ending must seal the light away and break the cycle

What else can I say really? The art style is awful.

Do you like Symphony of the Night? Well this is that game instead of the awesome sprite artwork you are alucard if he was made by a tumblr artist. The entire game I was wondering why everyone was shilling this game and this is my theory.

It's the undertale retards who never played a vania game before so this is their first step in the genre so it's SOOOO unique because its "underrated", except the actual combat is floaty garbage and you never feel satisfied killing enemies.

This game is cancer and if you like this game. Kill yourself. You are a worthless mongoloid who enjoys half baked indie games with recycled ideas from Miyazaki. It's boring. Fuck you.

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>>387109043
>a few elements from the Souls games
But I thought you said the game was good?

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>>387109125
Have a (You) on the house friend.

When Nu-troid: Fagus Shitburns flops, the fanboi tears will sustain me for weeks, maybe even months. I shall descend upon this board like a wolf upon a lamb, and bask in the unending impotent rage that this board will pump out. I will gaze upon the suicide threads and rage posts, and I don't think my penis will ever be harder than it will as a million Nu-troid apologists cry out in itty bitty white boi penis fury simultaneously.

They'll try to convince themselves it was a rigged. They'll try to convince themselves that Sony had pulled a fast one on them.

"We will boycott!" They will say. "Console war!" "Day of the crash!" they will cry.

Time will pass, and they will do nothing because all they can do is talk. They are too cowardly and weak to do anything

But none of that will balm the pain of knowing that their God Developer, their favorite franchise, will go down in history as an amusing foot note, an embarrassment, as the loud obnoxious DLCfest who lost to the AM2Rdev's first commercial gane, a Dev who the entire nation thought was a literal criminal but still preferred to Nu-troid.

I need to fap.

>>387109301
Does the combat ever exceed using a fucking nail and just jumping and pressing one button?

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>>387109125
>don't buy this game because i didn't like it

what

>symphony of the night
for shitters who couldn't handle rondo

>>387109125
Oh I remember this pasta alright

>>387101671

>implying anything has to be wrong with a game for /v/ to pan it

>>387109480
Does Metroid combat ever exceed jumping and shooting using one button?

>>387109328
>Nu-troid: Fagus Shitburn

drink antifreeze

>>387109972
>N-NO!!! PLEASE DONT MAKE FUN OF HEMORRHOID: SEAMUS REACHESAROUND
How bout nah?

>>387110070
I'm not even going to play it I just think you're a retard

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>>387109328
>Nu-troid: Fagus Shitburns
This shouldn't have made me laugh as hard as it did.

>>387101671
>First 2D Metroid game in 13 years
Honestly who cares? We now basically have countles indiy devs that with 5 people/indys can create a better metroidvanias that are bigger, more beatiful, more challanging, with better gameplay and has more riddles.
The days of sucking the dick of 90s programmers cause there is nothing to compare them too or they made babies first metroid is over. They now have to prove they can make a better metroid than hollow knight... yeah..uh good luck.

>>387109778
I don't think you ever truly played Super Metroid

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>>387108517
Looks a fair bit larger to me. Keep in mind that a map square in Super Metroid, is approximately 256x256. Essentially one screen per square. The Hollow Knight map isn't measured in clear squares though. Many of the rectangles representing hallways, are actually 2 screens tall, if not a bit more.

>>387101671
>>387101716
Two words

>mercury steam

>>387101671
A remake of Metroid 2 is low hanging fruit. This should have been a fully fledged new 2D game. Also it should have been on the fucking Switch too. But no. It's just an afterthought outsourced cash grab that's going to suck shit and AM2R has already blown it away

>>387109614
I have beaten all castlevanias. Rondo is my favorite actually, the analogy fits with SoTN because the combat is literally the exact same with the sword animation except it's a tumblr drawing.

>>387110660
This. Why give a shit about the AAA companies when we have so many indies who do far better jobs and charge far less or release them for free?

There hasn't been a good 2D Metroid since 1994, and Samus Returns looks like shit.

>>387111280
>There hasn't been a good 2D Metroid since 1994,

Wait source for this fact?

>>387101671
/v/ is still asshurt about a fan game to the point where they'd let the series they claim to love die regardless of the quality of the next game. It's actually pathetic, the Metroid fanbase is complete and total garbage and deserves to have the series dead for good because of how they act.

Metroidbabies are so whiny that anything short of a totally unaltered, repackaged copy of Super Metroid is met with autistic vitriol.

>>387111532
His ass

>>387101671
Pre-ordered it. It looks pretty good to me and I want more Metroid games.

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>>387111754

>>387106272

what was so wrong with having a Metroid title be the things that made it Metroid?

fuck you I'll wear these glasses my entire life instead of supporting the bastardization of one of my most beloved vidya series.

have some fucking standards for christ's sake you don't have to swallow everything Nintendo does to their IPs.

>>387112387
>a single new move causes this guy to completely melt down in an orgy of rage

>>387112629

im not the same anon I mostly just hate the art style

>>387112387
>Samus actually being able to manhandle her opponents for once
>Optional powers to make going for 100% less of a pain in the ass.
>Bastardization

>>387103537
I haven't even fucking seen it up on amazon

>>387111532
My source is that Zero Mission and Fusion were shit.

>>387112803
Metroid doesn't exist to make you feel like a planet-wrecking badass from the outset, retard. You're supposed to start out outgunned and alone, gradually building up your power with minor upgrades like missile tanks and energy tanks and major upgrades like the Ice Beam and Screw Attack. By the end of the game you're a shit-wrecker and it feels awesome because you went through the experience of being weak as fuck.

>>387101671
It will be compared to AM2R and will probably be the worse of the two. I have no confidence in the developer.

>>387112803
>100% shouldn't be a pain in the ass

Come on man. You know that just cheapens it. When you make a lofty goal easy to obtain, it doesn't give you the satisfaction of having earned it. It's participation award thinking.

>>387113321
>My opinion is that Zero Mission and Fusion were shit.

>>387113560
But it's optional though.

If you would like to say that something cheapens completionism but you aren't forced to use that thing either mechanically or by the design of secrets making them otherwise impossible to locate (which is not the case), you're wrong.

>>387113508
>Metroid doesn't exist to make you feel like a planet-wrecking badass from the outset
I would dump my entire paycheck to fund a game like that though. I want at least one Metroid game where Samus is decked out still from the last mission and KEEPS her spoils and just goes in for 8 hours like Revengeance.

>>387101671
Hackamoto is involved

>>387113720
You know they're gonna design the game around those "optional" gimmicks. So instead of having subtle hidden areas, it'll be completely hidden and unless you use the things like the aeion scanner, it;'ll be literally impossible to find most of these secrets. You'll have to bomb every single wall, which isn't something you should encourage in this kind of game.

>>387114227
>You'll have to bomb every single wall

So it'll be like the original Metroid and Metroid II.

>>387114227
But you had to do that in Super Metroid unless you used the X-ray scanner.

I'd also like to see your proof that they're going to design the secrets around this optional thing, because there is currently no indication that this is the case. It's almost like you didn't read my post.

>>387114227
Doesn't that technically make it "less video gamey" and more immersive in a way though?

>>387112803
You probably liked the weak spot shit in the wind waker right?

>>387114371
>>387114327
>>387114317
A good metroid game will give you a very subtle hint that something is hidden, or it'll reward you for doing something pretty well. When a game made you just bomb everything for no real reason, it became boring, and quickly. Metroid and Metroid 2 were infamously bad about this. Why do you think people clamored for remakes? They wanted to take what was good and separate it from the junk.

>>387114387
As an immersion factor, yes. As a mechanic, it made fights too easy. The difference here however is that you had a preemptive alarm in Zelda. In Metroid it's just being brave enough to challenge a melee attack with your own and if you succeed you get massive damage.

>>387114492
But that's what I was saying. There's currently no reason to think that SR won't do this.

>>387114742
The very inclusion of the aeion scanner is a troubling sign of it. It's all too similar to Metroid: Other M's attempts to keep the game's "story" paced properly by locking every room behind you, because exploration is too videogamey and Sakamoto didn't want his story to get sidetracked. I worry the same will be true here, while actually exploring for secrets will feel too gamey, so he gives you an instant room tracker. Then, to top it off, it costs almost nothing to use. So essentially, even if the mechanic could be used in a good way, he's screwed the pooch twice over by making it too easy to use.

>>387115142
What could possibly happen in Metroid II that would make it story orientated? The only important thing that happens is: Metroids are eradicated and Samus meets the baby Metroid. One of those is done through pure gameplay and the other will just be a cutscene at the end.

>>387114317
There was almost no wall bombing in Metroid 2 compared to 1.

>>387101671
Contrarians, retards, and poorfags looking for excuses not to buy the game. The usual /v/ assortment of fucking assholes. Nothing new.