>Watch The International >It's kind of entertaining

>>387085225
Misery

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>>387085748
But misery wasn't at TI

>>387085225
Despair

I've played like 60 matches and I already want to kill myself. Stay away.

>>387085834
damn misery looks old now

>>387085225
You have to spend like 1000 hours learning the game before you can really play

>>387085225
Just don't bother, it's not worth it. You'll fucking hate every minute of it.

Poorly worded insults from foreigners.

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>>387085915
This is what he looked like when he started

Dota, not even once

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>>387085225
OP STOP PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP

THAT IS THE PATH TO HELL

Avoid picking Meepo, Invoker, Pudge, Rubick or Chen.

But what type of play style do you usually enjoy in games?

>>387085225
As someone with 1000 ish hours in dota, don't get into it if you don't have friends to play with. Trying to learn the game without coaching is near impossible.

>>387085225
Two months of shitters trying and failing to emulate the TI metagame, then another two months of shitters trying out the two new heroes, then several years of sharp pains in your temples and a shallow regret weighing down on your chest each night as you try to find rest.

t. have been on this wild ride for 10 years

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When you lose, you're mad.

When you win, you aren't as mad.

DotA type games are for people too stupid to realize that they don't actually enjoy any part of any game yet keep playing anyway for thousands of hours.

>>387085225
Every win is heaven
Every loss will make you feel about as bad as you can feel

They just added a new system that highlights the heroes you should choose as a beginner.
But try to at least read some guides first. Watch hero videos and such.

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I just looked out of curiosity, this was the first game I played, two years ago.

Things were so fun back when I was playing against people who had no idea what they were doing.

>>387085225
Please remember the mute function exist, and remind yourself to use it rather than talking back to faggots and destroying your team even further.

90% of pub games are decided by which team gets mad first.

>>387086157
>I don't like it so nobody else must be liking it either

>>387086385
I remember my first game ever. I was playing as Bane and played it like Diablo.

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>>387086021
Misery a cute. CUTE

>>387086021
>2013
>when misery started

newfag spotted.

>>387086385
That lich player is a fucking boss.

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If you have good critical thinking skills you'll be a god since most people will literally just copy builds and strategies other people have laid out but it's never going to be very fun unless you can ignore both your team and the enemy constantly crying about the game not going exactly how they wanted it to.

dota is a reddit game tho...

>>387086529
It's a joke you autist

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>>387086385
>>387086539
>the jugg building moonshard before it even existed
he knew

>>387086539
To be fair, at that level it's press R to win

>>387086616
Reddit has a subreddit for everything.

>>387085225
theres too many things to learn in the game

just spend your first game trying to get kills and stay alive

>>387086616
what reddit does or does not like doesn't matter on 4chan. Only stealth redditors who are trying to fit in whine about "X is reddit"

>>387085225
Dota 2/MOBAs, suck so hard... and their community are full of toxic autism.

>>387085225
Play at least a month against bots, you don't want to ruin the game for others while figuring out how to use the courier or TPs.

>>387086385
>what the fuck am I building

>>387086678
i mean they literally control who host things and what heroes get buffed/nerfed and I wish I was joking but it is real.

>>387086754
Queue time for games against bots is like an hour

>>387086714
No but the subreddit actually dictates the updates for dota. Not a meme.

>>387086791
To be fair though, it is in conjunction with the pros AND the fact all other DOTA outlets are shit. Steam forums especially.

Do the tutorial and play bot matches until you understand the basics

It's honestly mind boggling that so many people install the game and jump into a real match without knowing how to play at all and it just preemptively ruins the next hour or so for your team mates.

>>387085225
The best Moba experience, miles better than LoL or Smite.

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my first matchmaking game 3.5 years ago

>>387086897
they should just listen to the gulag, sure that will go over well

>>387086791
>>387086880
It's based on tournament results faggots. He always nerfs whatever won TI and buffs everything else.

So I hope y'all KoTL players out there got your anuses clenched.

>>387086853
I wouldn't know haven't played that mode in ages. He can still play against bots without people.

>>387086920
>he plays tutorials
lmao

>Even after many, many, many hours, I'm still having to rely on item builds

My memory isn't good enough for this shit

>>387086570
this
95% of players play the game like it's a rhythm game and mindlessly grind out shit they see elsewhere without knowing why and will never ever improve

if you put in enough work to start to understand the big picture you'll probably end up liking the game, but if you don't naturally think this way don't even bother playing it you'll just be one of those retards foaming at the mouth about the "trench" and trying to copy what pro players are doing in your fucking pub game

>>387085225
Seriously depends on where you live and the languages you speak? Btw if you live in canada/US and cant speak spanish you should unironically uninstall.

League is better, don't play doturd

Better meta, better competitive scene, better waifus

>>387086385
>zues 0/0/0
>highest damage on dire side
>built items including viel and scepter

did he just not ult? is it a glitch? seriusly what the fuck happened here

>>387086920
they have a special playlist for new players don't they?

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>>387087181

>character paywall
>gameplay changing mechanic paywall

>>387086990
>redditors complained about supports not getting any gold
>suddenly next patch has a buff for supports that if they ever participate in teamfights the support gets more gold
hmm

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>>387087181
>better competitive scene

>>387087048
Torte's guides aren't that bad. Though after a while you will be able to think "okay the enemy team has X hero, so i should definitely build Y item to deal with him"

>>387086157

Nope, I'm fully aware that I despise League and I've even voiced this paradox to my friends- that even when I win I'm not having fun.

Can't stop playing though.

>>387087195
It must be a glitch

He's the highest level too

>>387087269
Nigga helping out supports has been an on-going trend since the transition to Dota 2. Reddit has nothing to do with it.

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No better feeling that getting gud and beating the shit out of your opponents.
5200 MMR by the way.

>>387087181
The only thing you have is waifus

Everything else is inferior. I'm casual as fuck, and I tried League after Dota and it felt like a massive downgrade.

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>>387085225
no one actually plays dota my man, we just watch esports and shitpost in /d2g/

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>>387085225
A lot depends on the community, when people give a shit about the game and know what they're doing its pretty fun and chill, but most of time it only takes one person to rage and start demoralizing their team until they rage quit leaving their team with a massive disadvantage, you will also find out some people don't play exclusively on their regions, so you'll find latin americans playing on West/East Coast not communicating with you or Russians on your lobby if you play Europe.

My advice to you is, learn heroes that can solo on their own and know at least 2 support heroes when everyone else refuses to touch one and you need to win, teamwork is a rare thing to find if you play pubs.

>>387085225
>My gf left while I was playing this game
>My friends left me while I was playing this game
>My grampa died and I didn't gave a shit while I was playing this game

Beware of this game is as addictive and dangerous as heroin

>>387087378
CK is possibly my favourite hero.

CK, Necrophos, and Broodmother. What would that make my role?

>>387087181
Dota is better. League baby can't deny.

>>387087181
>better competitive scene
>its always the Koreans who wins tournies
haha good one anon! heres your (You)

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Absolute retardation. Don't bother with mobas, they're a headache every time you play.

>>387085225
Best game in its category. Play with bots for a while and learn the basics tho. And also, mute people instead of arguing with them.

>>387087515
Tempo heroes. Basically you get stronk and make a real nuisance of yourself so your carry can farm in peace.

>>387087181
you arent even trying anymore

>>387087515
a space-creating pos 1, literally the best role in the game

>>387087538
t. brainlet

>>387087668
Is that the same as core?

I get confused by all that shit sometimes.

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why is he so qt bros???

>>387087630
>mute people instead of arguing with them.
this

Sometimes I just mute everyone right off the bat. Ping and looking at the map is usually sufficient

>>387087538
Posts like these and the frequency of them make me think that there are people who spend their whole day looking for things they don't like on 4chan.

>>387087753
>pos 1 is best role
mid is better tbqhwyf

>>387087630
This. If they're offering constrictive criticism, listen. If they're flaming you, mute them.

This was my first TI, was it a good one? I enjoyed it overall. Not sure if it was genuinely that great or if it was just not knowing any better.

>>387087813
Yeah, anyone who isn't a support is a core. Those heroes there need farm, so they're not supports.

Cores come in a lot of flavors though with different timings. You'll figure it out friend, just play and be happy. None of this really matters at your level anyway.

>>387087753
Pos 3 is better.

>>387087813
A core is anything that isn't support; ie positions 1, 2 and 3
The positions decide who gets the most gold off the map, with position 1 being given the highest farm priority

>>387087872
Mid is pos 1 nowadays though.

>>387087952
I'm a pos 3 myself but playing a pos 1 that makes space for the team is the most fun, you get all the scrappiness of a pos 3 but also get to farm

>>387087939
it wasn't amazing
no really good upsets besides empire knocking out eg 2-0
bunch of teams i had high expectations for but just fumbled themselves out of the whole tournament
not to mention ez katka 3-0 grand finals, wasn't even close

>>387087872
Fuck mid. Every game I get some faggot fighting for getting mid. I genuinely prefer taking a lane.

>>387088121
What the fuck happened in that final game though. Newbee looked fucking great the whole tournament, then just didn't appear at all in the final.

Not op but i have over 700 hours on it with only 4 games with humans and a shit ton of bot games
Im having fun so i don't really care, i just want more bot heroes

>>387088216
Gh happened.

I mostly just play single draft

Then panic when I get three difficult heroes

>>387088259
I was like you, I played a ton against bots but they do get predictable, they 5 man you really early. Just mute everybody and pretend you're playing against bots.

I haven't played a ranked match yet.

>>387088331
That and Miracle

That last game where he survives as juggernaut is really insane play

https://clips.twitch
.tv/WealthyLongKleePraiseIt

>>387088216
flawless decision making, unbeatable drafts, retarded high individual skill, perfect synergy
they're playing a different game

>>387088595
Miracle is good for sure, but I'm more impressed by support play as impactful as Gh. In every single game he just does so much, whether he's on KoTL or ES or whatever.

>>387085225
People being really mean in general.
All pick insta-muting everyone you don't know is the only way to enjoy it.

>>387088595

>press R
>wins
WOWWWWWWWWWW

>>387088665
The drafts were the true win though, yeah.

On paper they looked a bit rough sometimes but they made them work so well, to the point where all the enemy's bans were against the heroes they were good at rather than out of any sort of plan.

>>387088785
There's so much more going on there though. The echo slam is perfectly timed.

>>387088665
Meanwhile EG shits themselves the second they enter main stage. Like someone took their whole team and replaced it with 4k scrubs.

>>387088785
you could make this argument for literally any game

>retards on the internet going "UHHHHH LIQUID WASN'T THE STRONGEST TEAM BUT CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM!"


FUCKING NIGGER
THEY WON THE FUCKING GRAND FINALS
-THAT- MAKES THEM THE STRONGEST TEAM.
NOT SOME OTHER BULLSHIT SUBJECTIVE THING

>>387088924
They must really miss PPD

I gotta apologize to Liquid. Before that TI I was angry as hell at Miracle that he left OG, especially when OG won another Major. I was absolutely sure Liquid couldn't do shit.

Then I was proven wrong again and again.

>>387089056
They absolutely were the strongest team though. Even if they slipped up in their first game they were outdrafting every time after that and seemed to get steadily better.

>>387089056
Not really, to actually prove that as fact they'd have to face every single team that went to TI, they just won the tournament

>>387089056
>LIQUID WASN'T THE STRONGEST TEAM
>literally STOMPED a chink team without a single loss so far
>literally the only finalist to go 3-0

the only team that was more dominant in TI so far was TI6 Wings desu

>>387089189
They did though. In the group stage.

>>387085748
fpbp

>>387089189
Not really, no?
You need to face every team if you wanna know the exact positions of EVERY team. But to know the "strongest" you don't need to face every single team, that's fucking retarded.

>Team A beats team B
>Team C beats team A

Thus Team C is better than team B.

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>>387087378
I used to love this man back when I played for some reason his voice lines from the wiki are different from in game idk if that's still the case, but slapping people dead when you stole all their damage never felt so good

>>387089212
>>387089182
You have no idea how many times I saw this same "idea" floating around after Liquid won. I'm like WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG YOU YOU RETARDS?

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my first game, almost 4 years ago. feeling nostalgic because I clearly remember not knowing what the fuck I was doing, I jumped in a game without even a tutorial and I thought you had to buy proper equip for your hero, such as a sword, a shield, armor, rings just like in an rpg.

>>387089423
salty amerilards butthurt that EG is a walking meme

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>>387089345

Transitive property has never worked in competitive anything

>>387089508
shit, the Bloodseeker in my team is almost 6k now. feels good knowing it was his first match as well

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I tried to give dota 2 a chance but I couldn't put up with how shitty it was after a while. The game is never going to get any better in it's current state because it's full of rotten design that prevents new players from getting into it. Multiplayer games will do nothing but decline if they can't get new players.

guys is ranked worth my time

I calibrated at 3k when ranked came out and have not touched it since, I used to just play unranked All Random/Random Draft/Captain's Mode but there's too many fucking foreigners on US East in pretty much everything but All Pick and All Random

>>387089386
RTZ pls go

>>387087378
How can you ever possibly win with GARBAGE KNIGHT
t. 5k support main

>>387089795
Ranked is unplayable while international ranked is available.

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>>387085225
>Try to get good at this game
>Every single game I hit the roadblock of having so many available items to buy, I have no idea what exactly is the best choice in terms of how the current game is going
>Try using in-game guides, they are all cookie-cutter shit that make the game boring because I can't itemize by myself so I feel like I'm being handheld all the time
How do I stop this? I swear, only items fuck me up. Knowing how to build skills depending on each game is easy, but itemizing is what always fucks me over. A lot of the time I decide to buy items by myself, I end up getting shit on by my team, which is why I started using in-game guides. But like I said, those suck because I don't feel like I'm improving by myself.

>>387086385
This is pretty golden
i want to know that drow strat

>>387089969
Just play support. You don't have to worry about buying items if you have no money.

>>387089795
Maybe if you're at 3k

I calibrated at 1.2k

I'm still not good enough to get higher

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You will either like it or not like it. If you don't like it after 15 games you probably won't like it after 200. You will probably encounter 3-4k smurfs who think they should be 5k and ruin your games. The community is of course terrible. My only advice is do not sit in the same lane for 20 minutes hitting creeps or watching your carry hit creeps. A lot of new players do this and then complain about how boring early game is.

>>387089056
FILTHY PIGSKIN CRACKER

>>387089706
>burden of knowledge

Get out.

>>387086385
The Drow and Zeus didn't recognise things properly, right?

This is utterly baffling

>>387089870
It's hard to. Pick him when the enemy doesn't have good counters against illusions.
I mostly pick roaming earth spirit anyways.

>>387089969
>I end up getting shit on by my team
chances are they don't know what they're talking about

>>387089056
>Liquid wins by having such a huge effective hero pool that the opposing team having 5 heroes to ban meant literally nothing to them
>BUT UUUH, LIQUID DIDN'T REALLY PROVE THEMSELVES
I really hate those people.

>>387089969
Watch pros

I had no idea about how 90% of items worked until I started watching pro games more. I'm still not great, but watching them use them helped me make sense of their purpose.

the only good thing about dota is the futaposting in the vg threads 2bh

disclaimer: i was 4.8k mmr and had like 5k+ hours into the game

>>387090156
This

Early game is prime ganking time.

>>387087181
>Better waifus
>Lina
>QoP
>Rylai

>>387089969
I think that when you try to break away from cookie-cutter builds, you begin to feel overwhelmed. It's too much to take on at first.
When I first started seriously improving, I started watching lots of competitive dota and just copying the things they did, without really worrying about -why-.
Later, as you copy pro builds, and start to play with them more, while you begin to understand the game more, you will begin to realize why so-and-so used or uses this build. Then you can slowly start varying your builds to the situation.
Go easy on yourself, and don't worry about being a brain-dead copy cat when you're first trying to get good.

>>387086385
Is that dotabuff or something? My profile is private so I can't check stuff like that, hilarious. For a while I enjoyed watching "playing dota for the first time" videos on youtube.

>try to get good at game
>1-3 disconnects every game making every game either unwinnable or a free curbstomp that literally teaches you nothing

It sucks whenever I think I'm doing a good job in game and then I see "Oh, one of the enemy has been sitting in fountain the last 10 minutes"

>>387090510
Don't forget pugna

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>>387087181
>Better meta
>20% of hero pool is viable compared to dota's 99%
>only allowed to use one team comp and lane layout

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>>387090716

>>387090703
if you're getting disconnects every game it's because you're playing with new players

by my shaggy bark

>>387090778
No, I also get a lot of russians spamming "report _____"

>>387090703
Probably playing with new players

Games with groups of players are generally pretty enjoyable (even if you're solo) but solo queue is almost intolerable because it is really difficult to get 5 strangers to work together, especially when only 2 or 3 of them actually speak English and the rest just want to spend less time in queue.

>>387089345
Doesn't actually work like that in dota, there's a lot of teams that do strangely well against certain teams that are top tier while doing very badly against other top tier teams.

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wow wasn't that just an incredible finals guys

>>387090827
I'm not so good with motion, you know

My biggest problem is dying too much.

If I try to fight, I'll often end up dying, but if I try not to die I end up not influencing fights at all. I can often get a lot of kills and assists in a game, but it'll often come at the cost of dying too much.

>>387090745
>Implying the Champions in league aren't more unique and have a higher skill ceiling

All the heroes are viable just not in the competitive scene its still better

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>>387090716
>>387090758
Did someone say lolipugna?

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Speaking of first games, this was one of the first games I played.

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>>387089056
FUCK YOU ETHAN GACH

>>387091030
Knock knock

>>387091071
Always

Ilexa hero when

>>387090778
>>387090881
Is it normal to still be getting new players consistently DCing every game after 250 hours?

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Who was in the wrong?

>>387089969
i just ask myself why should i buy this item and what do i accomplish by getting it
i'm a supportcuck so it's not super overwhelming trying to figure out what items will have the most impact as it's usually something like buying force staff versus a clockwerk/lifestealer, or glimmer cape vs necrophos
it gets easier with time

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>>387090510
>Not mentioning best girl who almost singlehandedly lost the west TI7
Please buff her Icefrog.

>>387091193
if you're bad enough to play with new players

>>387091219
Valve had a pudge arcana ready to go, didn't expect rubick to win, and rigged the vote at the last minute

>>387091067
>Higher skill ceiling
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Wait, you're serious?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>387086385
I miss the Purge casts a low level pub videos, it was hilarious, pure chaos and madness

>>387091067
I haven't played that much league, but when I did every single "champion" felt exactly the same. In Dota everyone feels completely different to play. Though that's probably why it's so hard to get into.

>>387091030
>>387091030
YUCK YUCK YUCK

>>387091067
>All the heroes are viable just not in the competitive scene
Which means they're not viable, this is what the word means. Everything in every game is "viable" against garbage players.

>Implying the Champions in league aren't more unique and have a higher skill ceiling
Wait, LoL has characters like Meepo, Invoker, Rubick, and Visage? And champions aren't designed to be shoehorned into one or two out of five forced cookie cutter roles? And it actually has a focus on using more than zero to two active items? When did all that change?

>>387091030
Best part of TI

>>387091260
>play with new players
>they DC all the time
>never learn anything
>can't get past a certain skill ceiling
>continue being matched with new players who keep DCing
>every game is autolose or curbstomp
>cycle continues

>>387091250
>le game losing dragon

I need to breed obviously, but yeah, she's so fucking bad

>>387091439
Day9, or Day9posting?

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>>387087939
Game wise, it was decent up until the Grand Finals where Newbee absolutely shit the bed. Liquid vs LFY was amazing though so just consider that the Grand Finals and the fight vs Newbee as a victory lap.

Production wise it was actually pretty poor. TI6 was easily the best tournament production-wise I'd ever attended/watched, with funny skits and interesting videos/content springing up constantly. The panel was way more entertaining as well and actually had a desk they could sit at.

Here are my TI rankings. Keep in mind I attended 5, 6, and 7:

6 > 3 > 5 > 7 > 2 >>>>> 4 > 1

>>387091469
then how did everyone else stop being matched with them

>>387091250
Just change her ult back to the way it was, supports in this meta have it bad enough as it is

>>387087181
Holy shit that was the easiest b8 I've ever seen

>>387091469
Ever try something called ranked??

>>387091524
Do you even have to ask
DID I MENTION MY PUBS

>>387091643
Ah yes, ME ME ME

>>387085225
IF you have reliable ego and are stable emotionally you will love it. If you dont, you will love it regardless but you will feel like a cuck.

>>387091624
I made that mistake far too early hoping for better games and ended up in the trench

>>387089969
It depens on your hero and role and the enemy heroes.

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>>387091067
>higher skill ceiling

>>387091310
>"Ah yes, the classic strat of going to lane with no items."
His deadpan really makes it, specially when he has to break it because of a really insane play.

>>387091691
Well looks like you better start grinding that mmr or get a new account

either way, git gud

>>387091679
I have neither of those things and I log in every day just to look at the hero screen

>>387087181
I had to play 40 games of Udyr to get to as play lee sin. Shitty game

>>387091034
>>387090827
Where is the agility tree hero????

>>387091841
> Q - TAB - Q - TAB - Q - TAB - W - TAB
>gard

>>387085225
Russians yelling at you incoherently.

The worst thing about dota 2 is the jungle. You can explain the design decisions behind last hitting and denying but stuff like pulling and stacking will never seem not retarded. The jungle has also been at the heart of several balancing issues in dota's past, and the ways those issues were addressed were very inelegant.

>>387091841
Does League have micro?

>>387088769
I think if you have a good behavior score you don't get matched with that many people that feel the need to be annoying in chat and you can actually talk to everyone

>>387091893
>look back at my calibrations
>8 of them had teammates with blank inventories
>another 4 had x/20+/x teammates
Git gud indeed...

>>387091998
>keeping five individually controllable copies of yourself alive at once
>having them doing different things in different parts of the map for optimal performance
Wow, ward jumping with lee sin is so much harder!!

>>387091310
Any ones I should see?

>>387092152
don't think so

>>387091561
>TI4
>The era of 5-man deathballs and 15 minute games

So that's where HotS got their ideas from.

>>387092183
>not being able to micro multiple heroes from your days of playing Warcraft 3 pubs

what are you, a fucking casual?

I'm kidding, anon

>>387092037
It's what makes it unique though. No other game has jungle mechanics as deep.

Am I the only one who enjoyed using Brewmaster? He was fun, and fun to listen to. I say used to because Dota is pure suffering and there is no need for anyone to play it or any moba.

>>387092295
27 for sure.

>>387092367
I main Brew.

>>387092367
>dota
>moba

>>387092165
To an extent. My behaviour score is something like 9750 and I still get matched with flamers.

>>387090745
>i only got to bronze when i tried it
lmao

Peruvians

>>387092440
Do you take him offlane? What MMR?

How do we fix the Russian problem?

>>387092446
What is it then?

>>387092446
DotA is a moba, you dumb shit.

>>387092152
Micro isn't necessarily a good thing because it can cause you to hit the game's control bottleneck.

>>387092578
Get Koreans to give a shit about DotA 2 and push them out of the game.

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>>387092490
>oops I have no actual rebuttal to defend my garbage game, I'd better just call him a shitter instead

>>387092565
Offlane 3k

>>387092578
Have to pass a difficult randomized english test every time you queue into the modernized world.

>>387092652
Koreans care a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G9O9j0DSII

>>387092652
Valve spent 2 years trying to get Koreans to like the game, it didn't work.

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>>387092652
>Get Koreans

>>387092601
"moba" is a term for LoL and all its clones.
Show me a single game that called itself a moba and isn't a LoL clone. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Calling Dota a moba is exactly as stupid as calling Doom a CoD clone.

Am I literally THE ONLY ONE actually excited for Artifact? Everywhere I go it's hate and hate

>>387085225
It's not a game to play "just for fun a couple of hours per week". If you are not gonna play kinda daily just don't waste time.

Is it worth getting into this game if you have zero friends that play it?

>>387092362
But that's the thing, it's not deep at all. Those mechanics are only used for a very limited portion the game and some heroes benefit disproportionally from them, which is where those balance issues I mentioned come up. The ultimate effect of these mechanics is merely influencing where certain heroes will be at certain times.

>>387092652
im on the phone with red velvet right now im going to get them to advertise dota 2
>>387092718
this one is also really good

>>387092451
Mine is 9900, I get matched with mostly quiet and civil people when I play solo, sometimes a retard here and there, or with the enemy team, but I'd say I mute 1 person every 4 or 5 matches. High 3k bracket but I haven't been playing solo for a while

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>place ward early in game so the enemy doesn't know I warded
>place sentry wards inside trees so its hard to spot
>eat enemy sentry with a tango and destroy enemy ward

I've been playing for years but I've just lately spotted other people doing the same, I like to think I've contributed something anonymously.

>stay still like a retard near obvious warding spot
>make the enemy think I've warded there.

Its fun fucking with people.

>>387092802
Nope
You're just going to get really frustrated or find friends along the way

>>387092792
It's stupid unless valve is actually taking the dota approach and making all cards free (therefore breaking the expensive card game mold)
otherwise idc

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>>387092792
I am but would prefer a dota MMO

>>387092362
Deep and unique are not inherently good.
Getting imps on the first jungle spawn makes a huge difference for Enchantress, since she gains the ability to spam chain lightnings on the poor level 1 fucker in the offlane.

>>387092578
i like the russians, they try hard most games and use their mics often when they want to make plays
sure they rage sometimes and go full retard spamming the voice chat in russian but usually they aren't the ones throwing games

the real cancer is turks/swedes

>>387092792
I am. I suck at dota but I find the mechanics and matchups and things interesting.

>>387092802
if you're competitive and enjoy the struggle to improve then maybe

>>387091561
swap 3 and 6 and I'm with you

>>387092578
make CSGO free

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>>387092741
>SPIRIT BEAR!

I'm just glad that the meme lie named VP and the "they are gonna play with every hero and win the tournament" is over.

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>>387093085
2 birds 1 squat

>>387093010
The jungle has to be RNG though because that's one of the ways valve rigs TI. They have control over the RNG and use it to determine the winner.

>>387093083
If we were talking only games, sure. TI6 had so much content though, and damn funny/entertaining content at that.

>>387089706
yeah dude dota is doomed because you're too stupid to understand it

>>387086570
>If you have good critical thinking skills
Add to this: if you have good critical thinking skills and are willing to spend the ridiculous amount of time required to learn the ins and outs of every character in the game.

>>387093219
what if i just play the handful of characters that i want to fuck

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>>387092152
>>387091841

>>387092748
>valve
>trying

Yeah right

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>>387093010
>imps

>play Dota
>russian stack picks 2 hard carries and go safelane together
>wards on rune
>enemy mid walks over to invisibility rune in full ward vision
>ping it out
>Beware enemy mid: invisibility rune
>Team-chat: Careful safelane, mid is invis and heading your way
>DOUBLE KILL
>team chat: CYKA BYLAT
>All chat: REPORT GG NO WARDS
>couriers start marching down mid
>stop playing dota

>>387092792
Yes, I love card games but HS is getting stale and expensive.
I'm up for some competition so blizzards steps it up, I'm also a huge dotard but I dropped out after 7.00.

>>387092792
i bet we'll get to trade cards because valve
if they put 1/10th of the effort put into dota/csgo it would probably be a really good and balanced game

>>387092983
>I like to think I've contributed something anonymously.

Jesus...

>>387092792
not alone, the only ones hating on Artifact are faggots that got blue balls from valve announcing a new game at a dota event

>>387093286
Then you'll have a more enjoyable experience than the majority of people who play this game.

>>387092792
It's kinda normal when you are young.

>>387093310
Go home Sean, TI is over

>>387093287

How do I git gud at micro?
I have trouble playing heroes like BM and NP because of all the micro skills required.

>>387092792
I'm expecting to make some easy steam bucks with it. Hopefully.

>>387093902
scripts.

>>387093902
They're not even that micro though. Just spam your units and try not to feed them

>>387092792
Its probably just gonna be another HS ripoff

And I already play Magic so theres no point to playing another dumbed down version of the same game

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>>387087538
I wonder why /v/ get so trigger when they hear the word Moba, even is the game isn't a Moba at all

>>387093902
>I have trouble playing heroes like BM and NP because of all the micro skills required.
Those two are fairly easy because unless you're doing super high level stuff you can get away with just sending all of them over to a single tower or hero.

The easiest way is to just hold control and right click on the target you want them to hit, hit F1 to reselect just yourself, and go on with your business.
You can also hit F3 to select all your non-hero units and do the same thing.

>>387094025
Is there an easier way to select all units other than my character?

Are there keybinds that I should know of?

>>387093529
It's kind of sad for an adult to be mad Valve is making some game other than ep3/Half Life 3. Who cares? It's never going to live up to expectations.

Theres still 2 unannounced games.

>>387093902
Set up hotkeys and control groups you're confortable with, think ahead instead of trying to think more than 1 thing at the same time, use shift-queue, practice.

>>387094121
Groups like in WC3, with numbers. ctrl number, that or tab.

>>387085225
This is exactly Valve's marketing tactic. First they announce Artifact, then people hear of The International and decide to watch it to try to get into Dota before Artifact comes out, then they reinstall the game and play it.

>>387094029
there's actually some info about it circling around, look it up, has potential

>>387094137
No need to be sad really and don't worry, some day maybe you can see beyond your nose.

Just kidding, people like you enjoy eating shit forever since it's the only thing you can taste.

>>387094121
F3

>>387094121
If you're looking to play Nature's Prophet just select everything manually with mouse if you want to move all the shit.
If you accidentally selected yourself press f1 and move back

>>387093197
TI3 felt like a festival for us fans.
None of this serious e-sport crap.

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>>387091250
I missed most of TI, what's the story behind this exactly? Why does everyone hate waifu wyvern now?

>>387095454
had one of the worst winrates during TI. Basically any team drafting wyvern lost. wyvern is kinda in the same league as bane now, not exactly bad but theres plenty of better supports you could draft instead.

>>387089969
learn what items do for situations and not for certain heros

>Radiance is a farm item that also counters blinks, it's not an item made for alch or necro it's an item that compliments their playstyles nicely.
>Mekansm is an item that gives armor, a heal, and some bonus stats. It's not an item made for supports to maximize healing, it's an item that helps push with healing and buffing creep armor, as well as healing a team during a fight. It can be used during a fight or after a gank to help get a tower or rosh. A support isn't the only hero that can buy it, a pusher or someone tanky that isn't going carry role can build it.

>>387095749
(Ended my last post early)

These are just random examples, every item has this same amount of shit to it.

Learn what items do overall as opposed to what heroes should build x

Which hero in Dota 2 is considered the chad? Sven? Centaur?

Now is a better time as any.

They recently released a new update for new players where there is an isolated matchmaking for them and you have a limited hero pool to learn the basics.

If you have the patience and are willing to learn it is one of the most rewarding experiences in games. It's also fantastic with friend

source: 3.3k hours

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Is /v/ ready for Dota's first foray into the realm of true furbait?

>>387096189
Sven

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you're not newfags right /v/?

>>387096428
>brew
>tusk
>bounty

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After not playing Dota 2 for awhile, I tried getting back into it.

I'd play fine on the highest settings, 60fps no problem.

However when in game, it'd feel really choppy. All software I have would show 60fps, but it seemed like 20fps.

I've googled every solution available, but none seem to have helped.

Windows 10 - GTX 970 - i5 2500k @4.2GHz OC'd - 8GB's ram.

>>387096664
>true

>>387096703
pmed fix :)

>>387092578
Better than peruvians since those guys play in a literal farmers market who happened to stick a PC cafe in there for laughs. I can hear the fucking farm animals over the mic - no human can play seriously in that situation.

Russians are autistic but they'll atleast try hard in an uncommunicative fashion.

PERUVIANS
JAJAJAJAJJAAJAJAJJA PTM PTM CTM CSM JAJAJJAJAJAJJAJAJAJJAJAJA
*FLUTE NOISES*
*ANIMAL NOISES*
*7 CHILDREN SCREAMING IN SPANISH AT ONCE*
JAJAJJAJAJAJJA MIERDA MIERDA MIERDAM IERDA

MI MID CTM PTM

JAJJAJAJAJJAJAJ
*feeds couriers*
AJJAJAJJJAJAJAJJAJAJ PERU VIVA PERU VAMOOOOOOOOOOS AJAJJAJAJAJ

>>387096703
Vsync turned on or something? Are you on Windows 10? That OS has that Xbox shit which is known to cause framerate issues and needs to be disabled manually.

>99% of games are clean sweeps
>top 8 are CHINESE CHINESE CHINESE CHINESE and Liquid
>very little hero variation compared to other TIs or just majors in general
>majority of casters/panelists unwanted
Objectively the worst TI.

>>387096703
Is vsync on?

>>387096825
top 8 is literally 50% EU 50% China

>>387096703
Check vsync and Nvidia control panel for vsync, chief cause of issues. Also are you using DirectX or vulkan? People report more issues but also higher FPS with vulkan

>>387096825
>very little hero variation compared to other TIs or just majors in general
wrong

>>387096825
no one likes fucking rumi casting yet he's been there for years. fuck valve. day9 is another turbocuck who shouldn't have been there

draskyl and capitalist should've casted instead of the jew + rumi combo

>>387085225
>watch ti4
>also decide to come back and play again a bit
>join ranked 4k
>first game enemy team leaves
>second game enemy team leaves
>third one guy in enemy team goes afk, they put up an effort 4v5 but get stomped in the end
>next 2 games were normal
>sixth game my team has 2 guys argue over mid and one goes afk, gets an abandon, we loser 4v5

Yep, its exactly as i remembered it
Ranked is truly where players want to play seriously ...

peruvians aka literal fucking monkeys that even other monkeys despise because they're too monkeylike

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>>387096825
>China lost
>Finland won
Objectively the best TI

One of the rare games that is actually ruined by its community. The community consists of probably the worst subhumans you can ever encounter. It's somehow even worse when they speak and understand you, because you can at pretend they're just bots gone haywire otherwise.

>>387096764
If Brewmaster isn't blatant barabait then I don't know what is

Russians, Turks, Peruvians or SEAmonkeys, depending on whichever region you live in. Take your fucking poison.

>>387096993
Ranked is unplayable while international ranked is active.

>>387096975
You're wrong. Literally all the same carries and supports. You never saw deviation from the top 30 heroes except when a team wanted to lose.

PL/KotL TI3 was better than this shit.

>>387092859
>The ultimate effect of these mechanics is merely influencing where certain heroes will be at certain times.
That's the whole point.
Antimage is one of those heroes that "benefit disproportionally from them":
But AM is a fucking creep in early. If your support spends 100% of his time stacking jungle for the 15-20 minutes future AM, he will not be a 15-20 minutes AM, he will get stomped on lane and the enemy will claim that farm.

an average of 9 peruvians per game

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>>387096803

Vsync is off and the Xbox crap is uninstalled.

>>387096834

Off.

>>387096950

I just have vsync set to fast(which is arguably fine for every game, I can't see it being the problem), but either than that everything is set to default.

Default settings on launch, too, so I assume DirectX

>>387097591
There are better ways to accomplish everything that the jungle does without making it an endeavor to balance and without having fucking RNG.

>>387086459
no hes right, i love to hate dota. you can play for so many hours and theres so much skill involved that it just ropes you in again and again. but its agony when you are solo, at least get a friend to play with. one that doesnt get mad when you fail, these games show peoples true colors.

>>387096189
>>387096512
Sven, also Rigwarl is very very bara, so he is also a pussy magnet.

When should I mute my team? The very second they say say something stupid?

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>>387087939
it had good games, but not as good as last years games, plus the production and day9 were astoundingly awful

>>387097861
Like which ones...?

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>>387098195
HYUK HYUK

>>387085225
For dick sucking. There is no way to become good at this shit, unless you playing since w3 times.

>>387098181
you should premute your team.

>>387085225
>What am I in for?
Eternal suffering.
Turn back while you still can.

>>387098181
Always mute them from the get-go and enjoy feeling like you are playing with bots. Definitely better than putting up with the average player on this game.

>>387085225
Kill yourself, shit eater.

>>387085225
Brazillians

>>387098427
>>387098510
but then how will he find people to queue with?
:^)

>>387097861
There are non.
It's a high risk-high reward mechanic.
If your team allows you to jungle good, and the enemy team doesn't counter your jungle, you get the reward.
If your team don't allow you to jungle good, and the enemy team doesn't counter your jungle, you MAY get the reward, you can choose to not jungle.
If your team allows you to jungle good, and the enemy team counter your jungle, you MAY get the reward, you can choose not to jungle.
If your team don't allows you to jungle good, and the enemy team counter your jungle, you get stomped.

League's jungle is a very, very, very low risk and very low reward one. One HAS to jungle PERIOD, and that's it. Sometimes the jungler is useful, sometimes is not, but ironically, for a forced meta, doesn't depend on the jungle.

>>387098195
The final day was pretty good for games, the majority of the event besides some of OG's plays were shit.
I think one of the reasons why we get jack fucking shit now in terms of production value is because of the Deadmau5 incident where he pretty much killed all the hype at the end of TI5.
Valve is punishing us now by getting rid of redeye, making the entire event super sterile and boring (like actual sports) and by refusing to have anything close to a closing ceremony.
But with that being said, the opening ceremony was fucking stupid.
With TI5 we had a rousing speech from Gabe, some flashy lights and and opening video that worked well at driving up the hype.

>>387098686
>peruvians
>people

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>>387086385
Took a look at my last page on Dotabuff, first 38 games I went ~1/20. The 39th game I played was the first one I had a positive K/D, as Timbersaw.

Guess this is what happens when you ignore all guides and tutorials.

Whats up with the map change anyway? I remember Rosh being at the bottom of the map.

if you thought fighting games were hard to get into, wait until you fucking boot this shit up

>>387097072
asians vs asians

>>387099230
Icefraud changes the map every year or so, sometimes it minor, other times he moves rosh to the other side of the map

>>387099220
>Shadow Blade and Crystalys on Timbersaw
That's pretty funny

>>387099230
people kept complaining that dire had an edge because of a huge ancients area relative to radiant, rosh was on their side of the map, easier creep block on both lanes, etc etc
this was also shown in statistics that dire had a slightly hire winrate than radiant (something like 2%)
now it's still hilarious because radiant has the better winrate now by the same margin

>>387097278
My point is chubby/bara isn't really a wide appeal thing
A generalized anthro character with lots of personality charm is

>>387097781
Turn it on. It'll fix your stuttering and it won't make your mouse laggy like it does in an FPS.

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>>387091284
leak confirmed on russian TI stream, Valve actually has a Rubick arcana ready to go, to be released with next major update/event

>>387099220
in the end, it's a team game
4v5 back then meant the 4-man team lost, because there was no rubberband bullshit like there is now

>>387099607
And don't forget that Rosh is still easier to contest as Dire because their top shrine is literally meters away from the pit.

>>387099607
Player were already trained all this time to win in a -2% handicap radiant side. Shown in statistics, the change in the map to close the 2% gap (-1% to dire and +1% radiant)adds to the handicap an radiant should win now by a 3%.

>>387095581
>bane
>bad
But you can turn him into a machine gun brain sapping machine with his talents

Dire jungle is also fucking miles away from the mid lane and their secret shop is half the map away from their offlane. The only tradeoff being that you're less likely to get ganked in dire jungle.

>>387099741
>leak confirmed
>the info is not rigth, but it WILL be confirmed next year for sure

>>387085225
A hundred hours of pain, then years of bliss

All you really need to do is watch purge's videos to learn something about dota anyways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AyrC5Ki31c&list=PLgmCLtUkEutILNA9EM0BON6ShoQGZhd3P

>>387099741
Literally the only thing leaked on the Russian stream was XBOCT saying that there are going to be 5 talents instead of 4 in the next major patch. Fuck off.

>>387100906
>purge
Stop trying to troll OP.

>>387093902
Go beat Warcraft 3 on hard

>>387101014
There is nothing wrong with the Day 9 learn's dota series.

Either that or watch the newcomer streams, or get a friend who knows how to play dota already.

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You know before TI everyone flamed me for always going radiance on Necro and now that Liquid won TI with radiance Necro everyone is doing it.

>>387085225
Watch purge to learn meta.

Practice vs unfair bots a lot.

>>387101739
>Listening to what a bunch of third worlders have to say
You have only yourself to blame. Hope you learned something.

No, really though, why the fuck would anyone think Radiance on Necrophos is bad? You put it together with Heartstopper Aura and everything dies if you manage to stay around long enough. It's a no-brainer. The whole point of Necrophos is to stay in fights as long as possible, and Radiance synergizes nicely with that.

>>387099618
>before TI
before which TI though?
Don't try and trick me I know you fucking did it in the absolute worst possible patch for it

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not exactly my first match but this is my oldest game I can find in my dotabuff
as a sniperfag, I really miss 6.83

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>>387101910
Because there is more value in blink dagon for kills. Radiance makes necro farm super fast like anti-mage, and a 800 gpm Necro is scary.

Tbh radiance was always my meme but it became good when 7.0 hit and Necro got +40 damage at level 10.

>>387093286
still need to learn what the enemy is playing

>>387101910
Because you're also paying for a bunch of right click damage that you can barely use and some heroes that are more resilient than Necrophos don't pick up radiance going by the same logic. And it's not like Necrophos is at a loss for what items to pickup; he has one of the widest range of viable builds in the game.

>>387091310
>>387091867
>>387092295

Never forget the starting 6 branch to saving up 6k gold Skeleton King build

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOmcaqEqyYo