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Is EVE Online worth playing? I've always been fascinated

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Is EVE Online worth playing?

I've always been fascinated by the idea of the game but I don't know if it's a chore playing or too difficult for new players.
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>is [videogame] worth playing
this question triggers me. it's a good game, but I can't tell you whether it's 'worth playing'. can't you just play it and decide for yourself?
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>>387061070
Are you a psychopath? If yes, it's perfect for you.
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you have to pay a every month if you want fun in this game
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>>387062707
>psycopath
>game about player interaction
wat
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>>387061070

there are genuine russian and american spies playing that game and the community is very strange
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>>387064089
>the interaction revolves around fucking other people for your own benefit
Yes, psychopath, it's the perfect game for you.
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Just give the free trial a try

personally I got a few months out of it before getting bored and it's one of the few still active MMO's where people actually talk
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>>387064386
you can do whatever you like though, I don't know why you're so upset about the concept of scamming or theft or whatever
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>>387064492
Upset? Eve is doing the world a service by providing a containment board for those like you.
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>>387064742
I log in, talk to my m8s and roam around hunting shit. why is this giving you asperger's?
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>>387061070
eve is an actual mmo, the fun is from interacting with other people unless youre an autist that loves grinding.

and dont fall into the f2p trap of grinding for a plex every month, itll kill any motivation to play the game if all youre doing is grinding to pay for your sub
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>>387065009
Who could be behind this post?
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>>387065117
ccp doesn't get less money from you buying a plex off the market m8
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>>387065425
It does. Plex is money they made some time ago. People buying plex doesn't help their earnings report at all, and that's all anybody cares about.
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>>387065009
the biggest mistake I ever made in EvE was buying a Plex that I eventually sold on the market, this allowed me to buy ships I otherwise couldn't afford and just gave me a sense of security that I didn't have before

ideally you'd want to pay for your subscription via credit card for the first few months, grinding for a plex every single month is mind-numbing

>>387065692
Every single PLEX on the market was bought and put there by a player
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>>387065901
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>>387065692
you buying the plex with isk contributes to the demand for plex
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>>387066082
>implying their isn't an oversupply with the amount of players this piece of shit has hemorrhaged
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No. It's gotten significantly worse, less populated, and more casualized in the last few years. The "f2p" shit is just the biggest indication that it should be avoided, it's on it's deathbed.
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>>387066170
source on your info please

>>387066249
casualized how
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No, it's trash now.
Has been trash since the citadels update.
Avoid at all costs.
The soundtrack is literally ancient elder gods tier tho.
>watching mules come and depart from jita 4-4 while this is playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p33HsJkfcOA
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>>387066929
citadels are ok though
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>>387066929
>OST
>ambient sounds
>old Aura voice

Them changing Aura's voice was what made me quit
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>>387066929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjeujElo48Y
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>want to play EvE
>completely asocial even in MMO
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>>387067268
maybe it'll fix you
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>>387061070
There's a free trial. Try it.
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It's a chore

It's not difficult, it's really just a giant as chore99% of the time. I mean if you're REALLY into business-like-but-not.really pretend stuff you may like EVE, but might as well just work for real and sell some stuff on eBay
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>>387062707
That's sociopathy you mean.
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>>387067469
you're talking about a small optional part of the game as though it's the whole game
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>>387066929
>EVE Online OST
Fuck, wish I can find a download of that somewhere. All that ambiance really worked with how empty space was.
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>>387067578
Thing is that's the MOST interesting part of the game.

I might have to go indepth in my experience with EVE to explain
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Daily reminder that Amarr are the best race.
Lesser, uncivilized, unblessed races need to kill themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqfFScZkDDk
GLORY TO GOD AND THE QUEEN
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>>387067664
explaining your particular playstyle and why you consider it to be interesting isn't going to make you right
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>>387067642
http://www.modenstudios.com/EVE/music/
This site has every single music track from EVE Online, including the trailers, fanfest promos and main menu themes.
There's also the elusive three-chaptered fanmade soundtrack that has been lost for years, and only recently found and finally updated on that site.
There hasn't been a single new piece of music since Citadel.
This game is dying.
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>>387067664
lol
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The scope of EVE is astounding, as you've heard the drama that can go over this game. That's what happens with a real sandbox like game... and the problems from real life world that recreates.

CCP has been injecting money into the game devaluating ISK for years because the rich got richer and the new players kept bailing on it. Rich players have nothing to spend the money on but little luxuries that in the end matter nil to the real gameplay economy and player retention. Wars were far in between once, and even the "wars" that happened were pretend ones where the power didn't shifted.

But mostly that's because the game has been halted in development for years and never realized the two "endgames" of a living, breathing virtual world: There's nothing fun to do in peace, and there's nothing fun to do in war.

The meaning of this is that combat isn't really fun or engaging. It's a powercreep like no other and navigating is cumbersome, slow and boring. Whatever build the game apparently offers you to do a task is in fact inefficient and might as well not have certain items at all for the sake of their economy value. But that's another thing and would take a long to go in depth of why combat sucks.

As for "peace", there's nothing ingame to keep you wanting to spend money on. Some cosmetics that cost real money and supertrillions in game currency that do nothing entirely. The game never got the walking around stations and meeting people outside their pods, making bars, minigames, casinos, chat rooms and other possibilities of something outside floating in space working true. The fantasy end of the game was never completed, and never will be.

So these core problems exacerbate when you try every mini activity the game can offer you. Everything is sterile and not really engaging by the gameplay itself. But since the game is an MMO, it gets (kinda) to its point if you interact with people around the universe with their corporations and needs. but in sterile chat windows
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it's a very old game where most of the players are jaded bastards that have been playing since release, extremely unfriendly to newcoming capsuleers
economically speaking is probably the best mmo in terms of how the in-game economy works and player interactions and factions are usually being played, but the game is not exactly very fun for at least the first 300 hours where you get the basic skills and start to learn what works and what now
it's one of the very few 10++ years old mmos still kicking and being played, tho the game is slowly dying and it going "f2p" didn't save it
you may like it or not, depends if you like grinding or social interactions
personally i don't suggest it, /eog/ and goonswarm drones
>implying there is any difference
will come flocking and tell me i'm full of shit, but it's not exactly a game up to nowadays standards, so the chances of it being fun for you are lower than 10%
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>>387068670
You put effort into your post, anon, and I read it, though I myself have nothing to contribute.
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>>387068670

So interacting with people is off putting right off the bat and people that play MMOs doesn't like EVE because of that, even if there's much that could be done in a small scale Copr vs Corp warfare kind of stuff... if you have a lot of time and dedication to spend into their world and your newly found internet "friends".

Since EVE hasn't broadened their audience except keeping the gold whales happy, they made it "freemium" with some access into the game without paying too much. Thing is you don't really have access to anything worthwhile ingame with the free pass, so you're going to pay up anyways. That's ok, since you're an MMO enthusiast you knew this was going to happen anyways. But still hasn't rettained much low end players because the game at its core is boring and needs a lot of time and investment to get it rolling. Also multiboxes.

Every good enterpreneur in EVE does botting or has several accounts working nonstop farming around the universe. There are corps made entirely of one man. Getting rich ingame is interesting as well as manipulating the market, but after that, the game is still a spotted amount of chores to do around in a single vessel. It gets interesting when you're doing several tasks at once, and you can feel like you're into some massive RTS game which can be the best EVE experience I've had.

Still, when you're on the top and such, there's still little to do other than spin your ships in dock. It's just more fun to read about the drama of the game than actually playing it.
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>>387069380
>It's just more fun to read about the drama of the game than actually playing it.
yet ultimately, this
reading about the goons being retards is 90% of the fun in eve online right now
anything else is just shit
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>>387068670
>CCP has been injecting money into the game devaluating ISK for years
not deliberately. they've just been incompetent when it comes to keeping isk faucets and sinks in check
>there's nothing fun to do in war
that's your opinion. lots of smarter people than you find war fun
>walking in stations
I'm going to stop reading here. if you seriously give a shit about walking in stations and space barbies I don't know what to tell you. they stopped developing it because there was really nothing meaningfull you'd ever be able to do in stations, it would not fit with the game
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>>387069641
t. shill desperately trying to get new players to join his sinking ship
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>>387069771
ebic shill meme
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>>387069641
PvP in EvE is such a joke, it's either people camping gates, ganking people in groups or sitting outside of Jita shooting miners.
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If I have to say something in my rambling about EVE I would say that it's hard to invest yourself into an MMO that is not dead but not growing either. It's UNdead. It's still-life. You cannot make friends in the game or interact in a meaningful, more personal way and this doesn't incentivate the friendship factor, only the betrayal one, where you're not really connecting with someone but just connecting with a chat window or a bot. Maybe that's a personal subjective experience but that's how many people feel; not to say that NO ONE has ever made EVE friends, that would be ridiculous.

But another thing that is off putting is that there aren't real signed contract redaction in-game, even if it's just a symbolic piece of paper/item (just like in real life if you know what i mean).

There is a contract feature that works like automated condition kind of stuff that is archaic and doesn't work outside scamming dumb dumbs and such that never got developed past that. But programming a contract of sorts with all variables and legal obligations that enforce the game and CONCORD (ingame NPCs) to help the contract its fullfillment would be a fucking nightmare for gamers and the core concept of the game that is "trust", so no, that hasn't ever been developed more than that. Still, there isn't any item-proof that an agreement was made between people, so whatever you've said you would do it's not real, and whatever you want to do isn't enforceable by, let's say, role-played law enforcers or bounty hunters and such.

There's so much features that are half assed or completely abandoned for the sake of ship skins and whale content that will never make the core playerbase grow organically.

Such a shame.
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>>387069641
Look at this man, OP. This is the kind of people that play EVE. 10 years of their life pretending to work where they could have been actually working. The delusion and fear that they're ultimately alone, clicking HUD advices in a screensaver, devoid of actual human interaction or skill based combat. Nothing from both worlds come together. Eyes blind to the truth.

You don't want part of this universe. It was a good ride but the game is done for.

FLEE THE PLATO'S CAVE YOU FOOL, BE HAPPY, MEET A WOMAN THAT UNEARTHES YOUR TRUE SELF OR IGNITE YOUR PASSION, DON'T LIVE A FAKE WORLD WHEN THERE'S ONE WAITING FOR YOU.
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>>387070116
>lots of people do a thing I don't like
>the thing I like isn't popular so I can't do it

>>387070186
>please remove trust from the game, it'll surely improve opportunities for player interaction
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>>387061070
Yes, but realize the game is way past its prime.
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>>387070512
rude
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I think the term "Universe past its prime" is the best way to describe EVE Online right now. It's been relatively stagnant save for that one major update about a year or two ago and really, the only thing that has kept it afloat are the dedicated playerbase that have been playing for a decade or more.
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>>387070538
>>please remove trust from the game, it'll surely improve opportunities for player interaction
That post said exactly that it shouldn't be removed, but still enforced

American time it seems
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>>387061070
EVE is like Crypto Currencies:

More fun to read about than it is to actually deal with. In fact, 75% will suck shit through a straw
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>>387070696
>enforced
yes, a massive expansion of the contract system so you don't need to get to know or trust people
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>>387070186
>You cannot make friends in the game or interact in a meaningful, more personal way and this doesn't incentivate the friendship factor, only the betrayal one

Did you never join a player corp? Not one of the mega 100 man + ones in the massive 0.0 alliances, I mean a nice smaller one. Personally I made a few friends in the player corps I was a part of. Its actually pretty easy to be accepted in those groups since they need to get new members to grow and do things. I always read and hear about people complaining how you can't trust anyone in EVE and its usually people who never socialize or join player corps that make those complaints.
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>>387070538
>Reading comprehension
>>387070625
>Check the EVE news
>NEW cosmetic items! A new super mega capital planet sized station that means nothing to you!
>Jita is on fire! Again! Will you be brave enough to camp the gates alongside your fellow capsuleers in a lagfest of clicking and insta popping nightmare?
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>>387070904
>Did you never join a player corp? Not one of the mega 100 man + ones in the massive 0.0 alliances, I mean a nice smaller one. Personally I made a few friends in the player corps I was a part of. Its actually pretty easy to be accepted in those groups since they need to get new members to grow and do things. I always read and hear about people complaining how you can't trust anyone in EVE and its usually people who never socialize or join player corps that make those complaints.

Actually I did, and it was fun for awhile. But the zone times and such got too much in the way and sometimes the leader was just doing his stuff and some people were doing their stuff and no one was actually playing together or doing raids or ratting or anything most of the time.

Because there aren't many activities ingame to keep total strangers together either. I mean, that's an entirely subjective matter but still stands how the devs haven't figured it out WHY other MMOs are successful in that area and EVE isn't and never will be.
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>>387061070
It's not as good as it used to be, but as a newbie, you can still have a blast. Just remember to join a corp. Pic may or may not be related.
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>All-Out
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>>387071418
>>387071512
aaaaaand the reddit posters have arrived, delete thread OP
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Is OP or anyone still here? i wanna talk about EVE and read opinions too
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>>387071618
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>>387061070

It depends. EVE is a true mmo and out of all the MMOs that are out there, this one is the one game where to truly get anything out of the game you need to put some actual effort in.

Meaning that you cant simply be silent and not talk to people, get randomly invited to a guild and start doing raids like in WoW. No you need to put yourself out there. MMOs were social as fuck especially around the time EVE was new and it still continues that today, you need to talk to people, build rapports and join corps (guilds) otherwise youre going to fly solo and you will get eaten the fuck up and spit out while losing everything unless youve been playing for a long time.

Not to mention that flying solo is boring as fuck. Doing some pvp in the game is awesome even if it is just going from gate to gate typically.

I would still recommend EVE if you have the time to put in to it and learn the game, its definitely the best mmo experience, you just need to be social.
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>>387061070
It's the most pure form of MMO
which means it won't feel like a game, it'll feel like you have a part time job
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>>387062707
This

It's a clever Ponzi Scheme in which sociopaths exploit other sociopaths' time. RMT's the game
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Eve is the worst video game ever made. It does some very impressive things in scale and how players drive the in-game events, but at its core it's simply boring. It's like if you took Freelancer, replaced the fine-grained flight and weapons controls with orbit commands and automated volleys, and made everything as massive a grind as possible -- it has to be or else the player-driven economy wouldn't have any weight to it as everything would be in total abundance.
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Is this a good game if you want to fly around and explore like a space prospector or some shit?
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>>387076110
If you enjoy being paranoid and constantly under pressure, absolutely

But you need at least another account to scout, that's the problem with this game, alts are mandatory
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>>387076971
If alts are such a big necessity then wouldn't drones be a good addition?
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>>387061070
No. Its p2w.
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>>387078015
The only winning move is not to play.
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>>387075080
If all you're doing is orbit-F1ing sure, but manual piloting is essential for flying some ships such as the slicer, and that requires far higher APM than most MMO's combat. And even if you aren't manually piloting there are lots of little things like range control and heat management that make a big difference especially in solo PvP.
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>>387077316
No, you cant' have drones watching another place... would negate the need for alts :^)
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The need for alts in Eve has generally been grossly overstated; they are not necessary, they just make things smoother. For example I only have one account and recently needed to haul some stuff from highsec to lowsec. Normally when doing so someone with alts would fly their alt through the route ahead of the hauler to check for gatecamps. I, instead, brought a shuttle with me in my hauler's cargo bay and, upon getting to the highsec-lowsec gate docked up my hauler, got in the shuttle, scouted the path out, then returned to get my hauler and fly it through. Would having an alt have made it faster? Sure. Was having an alt necessary? No.
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>>387064089
It's about going full Jew.
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>>387080747
>gate campers could've jumped and flown to the gate by the time you made it back
>you probably did the rest of the jumps unscouted
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>>387081387
>gate campers could've jumped and flown to the gate by the time you made it back
It was only two jumps. Very unlikely.
>you probably did the rest of the jumps unscouted
You mean the highsec jumps? Bruh my Impel has enough tank to survive pretty much any highsec gank attempt.
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