>game locks fun side-content behind pure RNG why the

Never once managed to get this island to spawn, and Ruby was my most played Pokemon game by an astoundingly wide margin.
Just fuck my shit up.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mirage_Island_(Generation_III)
>1/10923 chance of appearing even if you have a full Pokemon party.
JUST RNG MY SHIT UP

Ive gotten to that island every single play-through. i had no idea it was hard (rng) to do.

>>387032336
there's nothing on it but some kelpsy berries and wynaut.
Stop cryin

>>387032336
So you would hopefully cry about it one day?

>>387032447
Same but for me it was Sapphire.
But honestly, besides the berry there was nothing that interesting on the island.

>>387032336
>Alloud

Gen III in general has so much shit that was either event-only, Japan-only or flat out never got released.
It's such a cocktease region.

>>387032336
To give the game a sense of mystery. Any maybe to make kids question reality when no one else has seen the thing.

>Need to learn Braille to get legendaries

Gen 3 was a strange gen

>>387033069
fun though

>>387033069
That was pretty cool though and it had a codec in the manual.
The thing with having a Wailord in your first party spot and a Relicanth in the last to open the regi caves still sounds like some stupid playground rumor though.

>>387032336
I miss old Pokemon, and I don't even hate the new designs like everyone else, I like them. It's everything else that ruined it for me, it's just not the same anymore.

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>the only way to get Jirachi for the longest time

>>387032336
At least that game had fun side content.

>>387033235
as far as game lore/canon goes, why specifically wailord and relicanth? what the hell's so special about them?

>tfw you'll never capture Mew under the bus

>>387032336
>tfw I got it once in 2005
>leichi berry and level 15 wynauts
It's not really worth it

I just realized that Mirage Island wasn't in ORAS.

Jesus, that is another thing they did not include.

>>387033354
Wailord is the biggest Pokemon up until Gen 3 IIRC and Relicanth is a fossil Pokemon so supposedly he has some mystical powers or some shit.

>>387033354
I'm guessing Relicanth because it's a living fossil and probably was around when the regis still roamed the region.
No idea why Wailord though.

>>387033427
It's a good thing though, they know people got pissed about it and it wasn't even worth to find it anyway.

Why did Gen III have all this lore feeling? I remember there's a cave in Hoenn up from your home town and to the east that didn't really serve a purpose, but as a kid I always wondered what it was about. I don't remember the name of it unfortunately, but anyone know what I'm talking about?

>>387033328
In the US.
If you had a pal system you had to buy Pokemon Channel and play through it completely to get Jirachi.
Which was actually much more fun than it had any rights to be.

>>387033460
>>387033429
is there a reason why the regis were banished to their caves?

>>387033354
Gen 3 really loved water. Like it's not even a meme, it's fucking everywhere.

Dive was still the coolest shit

>>387033328
>>387033530
Or you can use GameShark.

>>387033427
But it is. Multiple islands in fact. Its just they have a higher chance to spawn and you can only access them by soaring with Latios/Latias.

>>387032980

never really played the game but fascinating system in it like transfering over pokemon through multiple games

how does that all work, is there a good youtube vid explaining how all pokemons work and link together or how event data is handled?

>>387033493
In emerald? It let's you get normally unattainable pokemon via Nintendo events.

>>387033530
only if you live in europe or australia

i bought pokemon channel solely for jirachi and as an american i was disappointed that i couldnt get it

>>387033493
there aren't any caves in route 101

>>387033493
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Altering_Cave

>>387033541
No shit, the Hoenn region is based off of Kyushu, which is basically an island in Japan.

>>387033554
Faggot

>>387033493
If you mean the one that's right next to the river, that actually had a function in Japan.
If you connected your cart with a Nintendo device at an event you could unlock special Pokemon that would appear in that cave.

>>387032447
I accidently came across it while surfing and had no idea it was actually some island that rarely appears.

>Every day, two randomized bytes are generated by the game. If these bytes match the last two bytes of the personality value of any Pokémon in the player's party, Mirage Island will appear for that day as long as the matching Pokemon remains in the party. The bytes are generated once any button is pressed on the start menu and will last until the start menu is accessed again past 00:00 (midnight) of the next day. Even though play time has nothing to do with the real-time clock, a game that has reached the maximum time of play (999 hours and 59 minutes) will not generate Mirage Island numbers anymore—instead, the Mirage Island number will always be zero. Likewise, if a game is started while the internal battery is dead, the Mirage Island Bytes will be set to 0. However, if the game's real-time clock is not functioning (the internal battery has died) at any point before time of play reaches 999 hours 59 minutes, then the Mirage Island number will permanently stay at what value it was before.
come on that's just mean, I'm not sure if it's more mean or less mean if the stuff found there is shit, I didn't play past RBYG so I wouldn't really know

>>387033541
Still makes no sense that you had to use a Pokemon to dive which then allowed you to breathe underwater for whatever reason.
Gen V had a realistic, although super annoying dive mechanic.

>>387032336
I love gen3, it had as much bullshit that was either true or false as gen 1

>okay to catch the regis you need to in a cave and read some stuff with Relicanth as your first o Wailord as your last pokemon, UNLESS it's the third version, which is reversed. Afterwards caves all around the world will open
>for rock you spin around the walls of the cave and use rock smash
>for steel you have to go to the middle of the cave and use fly

>THERE is a mystery island, you just have to talk to the old man and he will let you go in it.

>you can take the rocket in mossdeep and go to space to catch deoxys

>Jirachi is inside the door blocked by the plant in that one guys house, you just need to do bring all lvl 100 pokemon and he will let you in.

So much bullshit. ORAS gets even better with some of them.
>having to rename your regice to catch regigigas

>>387033647
Nah, fuck these stupid things that require you to do something else to unlock Pokemon, all content should be unlockable in game, I used GameShark to get Deoxys aswell.

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>games will never have fun secrets like this ever again since they're a waste of resources to implement without it being DLC

>>387033618
I'm talking about
>>387033629
Thanks a bunch for that anon. As a kid, I always found this place weird.

>>387033791
>>you can take the rocket in mossdeep and go to space to catch deoxys
I used to believe that for the longest time.
Didn't help that I actually saw a video of some dude who made a romhack that actually did just that back then.

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>>387032747
>1/10923 chance

At least it's not as bad as trying to find that pokerus disease thing.

>>387033582
What do you mean transferring? To what game?

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>game locks fun side-content behind collectables

>>387032846
>kelpsy berries

AKA the best berries.

>>387033539
The braille in the Sealed Chamber mentions a Pokemon, and how "We sealed it away. We feared it.", or something like that. The context seemed singular though, so it's possibly talking about Regigigas. The trio is the key to reviving Regigigas, so that could have been why they sealed them away.

>>387033647
>have to go to fucking New York to get a pokemon
No. You're the faggot.

Did somebody watch wester's Emerald Battle Facilities run yesterday by any chance?
I feel asleep when he was doing the last one and kept getting fucked by RNG.

>>387033868
What about Chapter 3 in MGSV?

>>387033775
What was it like?

>>387033354
Relicanth has a map to the sealed chamber on its side. Seriously, look at it.
Wailord's just Wailord though.

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>>387032336
Is part of the magic
Without the RNG this island is not as charming

>>387033969
If Pokemon ever gets fusions I really hope you'll be able to fuse all the regis with Regigigas to get a giant mecha that doesn't have a super shit ability.

>>387033915
Looking up rewards for collectables is the one thing I'll allow myself. I'm not trying to spend hours scouring for anything if all you're gonna give me is some shit ass potions.

>>387034064
Oh shit yeah, somebody once showed me that and that fucking blew my mind as a kid.
Gen III really had the best lore.

>>387034054
You were limited to only dive in very specific parts and it was either bound to steps or a timer until it forced you to go to the surface again.
It didn't exactly help that one of the biggest dungeons to explore in the entire region was underwater.

>>387033354
The animals Relicanth and Wailord are based off of are kind of evolutionary inverses of each other. Coelacanths were famously thought represent the link between aquatic life and the first terrestrial lifeforms. Whales, on the other hand, are the reverse-- terrestrial life returning to aquatic life. But what the hell that has to do with the Regis, who knows?

>>387034905
The regis' represent elements, like most legendaries do in Ruby.

Was anyone else really annoyed at how they made May so flat in the remake? She used to be a ten year old with C cups.

>>387034064
How does a Pearl evolve into a fish? Even by Pokemon evolution standards it's weird.

>>387032336
They should have put a legendary there. One Liechi berry isn't worth the effort.

>>387033427
It would've been lose-lose
Make it important, and people complain that they're locking content away and how it's unfair RNG
Make it a pointless easter egg and people complain that they go through that effort for nothing, and they wasted time on it when they could've added something worthwhile instead

>>387032336
Could be worst.

Make be locking side-content behind limited time online only shit

>>387033915
3>4>>>1>2

>>387035165

games used to be fun hiding away OP shit in hard to get to areas, like knights of the round, now thats a proper reward.

>>387035068
Same way Charmander evolves into a dragon.

>>387035458
The public's mindset has changed due to being so used to instant gratification
Anything that takes time is seen as an inconvenience. Create an unlockable character and it's seen as artificial difficulty that content is arbitrarily locked away when the user already paid for the game.

>>387035608
If the mindset you speak of were true, DLC would not exist.

>>387035416
>>1 (Dead)
N-no

>>387033354
The ruins were created and guarded by the people of the sea, so it makes sense that they would ask for water pokémon.
Wailord is the biggest, and relicanth is the oldest, so both of them could be worshipped as important water pokémon.

>>387035986
The mindset exists becuase of DLC and microtransactions. A lot of gamers are used to being able to pay away any progress wall they hit.

>>387033493
And what about all these bits of unfinished lore in the sevii islands?
I really enjoyed exploring them, it was so eerie...

>>387033582
Yeah its always been cool imo to drag your favorite guys with you. Diamond and pearl gen had a cool system where you transferred pokemon from the gba game slottes into the bottom of the ds into an area where you had to go and catch them

>pokerus
>shinies
>personality
>muh EV numbers
Pokemon is a fun game if you are not a tryhard comp meta autist.

>>387036195
I was driven to hacking for the same reason. Payday 2 was just too grindy for me. It become so much more fun when I hacked in a billion dollars.

>>387036224
Sevii Islands were so weird. they got more cryptic and abstract as you went along to the point where the final island was just this tiny triangle with Deoxys you could only access through events.

>>387036480
I hated how impossible the Battle Tower in Ruby and Sapphire was, though. It's littlay impossible to beat 100 in a row. I used both of those legendary birds and the quadrupedal metal thing. Still couldn't do it.

>>387033354
they're big guys

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>>387032747
>Only Pokemon is Wynaut
hehehehe

>>387035058
oppai loli a shit. besides, they used chibi models for that gen, a bit awkward fitting breasts in on those tiny models.

>>387032336
learn from other people and stop playing Gamefreak pokemon games. Play good roms instead.

>>387032336
I played Sapphire for 389 hours, got a 4-star gold trainer card for clearing contests, the battle tower, and completing the pokedex but could never reach this place. I could get Febass to appear in the wild better than i could wait for mirage island

>>387036628
Legendaries aren't necessarily good. Though yeah, getting long winstreaks can be pretty hard. Sometimes you just get screwed over by bad luck with nothing you can do, and if you're trying to get 100 wins in a row that's a lot of chances to be screwed.

>>387037012
Going after Febass was insane because it feels like you encounter him a million times before you actually want to catch him, then suddenly he's impossible to find.

>Game locks multiple side-events behind an item that's never distributed outside of Japan
>One of the events is severely fucked up

https://youtu.be/GxC1kXm_AVs?t=4m33s

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>>387037139
>As a kid I thought he just had a low chance of appearing in the river, so I just fished in the same spot over and over

>>387035461
So, not at all?

>>387032336
wait.
That shit actually existed???
I always thought it was an 'uncle who works at nintendo' myth!

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>>387036685

>>387037253
How long did you try? Did you never think about looking on the internet for pointers?

>>387037289
I don't follow. Perhaps Magicarp's evolution would have been a better example.

>>387037356
I don't know, it was just another time, I was retarded. I didn't really use the internet and all pointers I got from friends so 90% of those were just myths.

>>387037168
>all those jpegs

>>387037348
is... is this loss?

>>387037168
Arceus had at least one distribution in the west before that event and the flute was actually never released anywhere because Masuda thought people were too stupid to figure it out so instead of having an NPC that told you what to do with it, they just never distributed it at all.

>>387037168
What the fuck

>>387037474
Magikarp is based on a Chinese mythology of a fish that wanted to become a dragon.

>>387037536
No, it's just 4 and U in braille, crudely put together using a paint equivalent with my shitty skills

>>387037537
>Thinks people won't know how to use an item that they specifically have to go out of their way to obtain
>Puts Pokemon that only evolve when being traded with specific unspecified items, Pokemon that evolve when being traded with other specific Pokemon, Pokemon that only evolve when they know Moves they don't naturally learn, and Pokemon that evolve by holding the fucking console upside-down in the game

What did Masuda mean by this?

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>If you get to 999 rocket launches, Deoxys appears and you get to catch him!
FUCK YOU BRAD YOU LYING ASSHOLE

>>387037783
>Pokemon that evolve by holding the fucking console upside-down in the game

I don't remember that one.

>>387037168
I just watched that whole video and I have no idea what the hell happened throughout the whole thing.

>>387037964
The squid thing in X/Y. I forget the name.

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>>387037964
Inkay. You have to turn the 3DS upside-down when it hits level 30 to evolve it, because fuck everyone who doesn't look everything up online first.

>>387038023
>>387038058
I honestly don't think I ever used that thing before.

>>387038005
You mysteriously get brought to the Tojo Falls where Arceus suddenly gets pregnant and shits out an egg which you can decide what it will hatch.
Depending on what you chose you then get either Dialga, Palkia or Giratina at level 1.

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>>387033235
>tfw spent months with my friends trying to get into the regi's cave
>at least 20 rumors going about on how to get in there and catch the pokemon
>one day, start reading the manual because I never touched it
>find the code on the last page
>immediately get everyone together on the playground and start decoding the messages and catching these motherfuckers
good times

>>387038110
It sucks. You'd only ever catch/evolve it to tick off a checkmark in your Pokedex.

>>387033909

>Battery has run dry

>Have entire party with pokerus

>Still will never see Mirage Island

>>387038058
the level 30 addition is really what makes it stupid, I think one XY npc alludes to the upside down thing but a child could try it out on their inkay at level 24 and conclude that inkay isn't the pokemon that evolves by flipping the 3ds and never try again

>>387037964
Malamar

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