ITT: Games that ruined or killed a franchise. Pic related, I

Metroid Other M.

Also fuck you OP, Golden Sun is great.

>>387007329
I heard bad things about it. Do you really lose HP from running?

>>387008252
yes you do

>>387008252
Dude, that's just the tip of the iceberg. Every single bad decision in the game is made to compensate for another bad decision.

The game has universal level scaling. As such, you have to choose if you want to level or collect items when you fight enemies. But because of THAT, they had to implement a really bad timer mechanic to give any sort of purpose to leveling up at all. But because of this, they had to keep you from trivializing the timer, so they added the run penalty. But to keep you from brute forcing the run with heal spells, they gimp your healing severely by giving your healers low as fuck MP (like, one cast, period, two or three near endgame). But to keep you from losing HP as you just navigate in the game they implemented a shitty tap-to-go-place system. But because of THAT you CONSTANTLY have to backtrack through old dungeons to go to other locations.

It's just a chain of bad ideas feeding more bad ideas.

>>387007329
wtf is this game?

I played Lunar. And I'm pretty sure it isn't Lunar 2.

>>387009096
Oh BOY.

https://lparchive.org/Lunar-Dragon-Song/

>>387009476
the only good thing i remember is the cat girl shop keepers had nice titties and younger me was excited about taht

>>387007329
Is that Lunar: Dragon's Song?

>>387008761
I knew it was awful but I didn't know it was THAT bad.

>>387009476
Holy shit.

>>387009596
I don't remember any significant cleavage in the game at all.

>>387009847
Yes.
Fun fact: one of the characters in that artwork dies 30 minutes after they join your party. Off screen.

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I'll stop being mad about this never.

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A recent example.

lunar and breath of fire series were amazing.

shame as they progressed they got worse lol

>>387007329
breath of the wild.

>>387009976
It was a cheap cash-in game made to capitalize on the DS launch.

It also has one of the most laughably threadbare plots ever.
Your hero, who likes to do handstands, is doing a delivery job with his girlfriend. Monsters steal their parcel, but they get it back. Protag decides to join a martial arts tournament to make beastmen realize humans can fight too. After he wins, the beastman king curses him so he...can't do handstands. You then quest to seek out the king.

The king lifts the curse and tells you he's trying to fight Evil McBadguy. Protag heads out to stop McBadguy, but his girlfriend is kidnapped because she's secretly God. Protag finds McBadguy, fails to kill him, and learns McBadguy is the God's right hand man who beat up some dragons and only another dragon-beater-upper can kill him. Protag beats up four dragons. He then fixes a blimp and heads to McBadguy's castle. Girlfriend is brainwashed, then isn't. She asks protag not to fight McBadguy and dies. McBadguy falls off a cliff and dies. Suddenly girlfriend is alive again because ??? and an NPC turns into a butterfly. The End.

No exaggeration here. The only thing I'm leaving out is the sexual tension between protag and the only good party member. It's shallow as fuck and is barely coherent.

>>387010217
>Implying BoF 4 and 5 weren't the peak.
Off yourself, senpai.

weirdly for some reason i LIKED lunar dragon song

to be fair though, I had not playn any lunar game before hand

>>387010938
...Why?

The writing's bad, the gameplay is mostly automatic, the graphics are pretty shit, and it's long and grindy. I mean the music's alright, but what else is there to like?

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>>387007329
I never thought SE could outdo XIII but here we are.

>>387011050
fuck if i know

I was younger and was easier to please at the time.

I didn't say it was a GOOD game though. just that i tolerated the bad and enjoyed it somewhat

>>387010938
Go play Silver Star Story, cunt

The original Sega CD version is good too

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>>387009476
holy hell. just got up to part three.
>mfw

>>387011326
This thread isn't for your shitposting, fuckboy. That's nowhere near the level of garbage like Dragon Song. Get out of here. Go on, shoo.

>>387011591
Nah its trash.

>>387011531
Oh nigga you ain't seen shit.
This game gets way, way stupider.
It gives you multiple great pieces of equipment for a character mere MINUTES before permanently removing them from your party. TWICE.

>>387011629
Call me back when driving your car drains your health.

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>>387009476
>leveling up makes the game harder
>enemies get harder and you need better gear
>you get that better gear by switching to level up mode
>you can fuck up, meaning the gear ends up not being all that effective because you leveled too much
>and then random mobs can just break or steal the equips anyway
for what purpose

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>>387011782
I don't know what that means but it sounds fucking awful and stupid.

>>387012787
You get a character's best equips.
They are removed from your party forever.
You get another, new character, and new equips.
Then THEY are removed from your party forever.

Considering said equips are the rewards for doing the timer challenges that level you up, thus making the game harder, this is extra bullshit.

>>387012985
do they come back though

>>387013123
No.

>>387008761
Jesus Christ, I heard Dragon Song was horse shit, but I didn't realize how broken and shitty they made the entire thing. Why did they make it like that? None of the other Lunar games had shit like this.

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>>387013221
ARE YOU TELLING ME I WILL BE WASTING MONEY ON PARTY MEMBERS THAT WILL NEVER COME BACK

>>387013364
Yeah.
In both cases you can literally just never bother with either of them and you'll be fine because they suck so much, but the game sure as fuck doesn't tell you that.

>>387013263
Because they wanted to be the first RPG to come out on the DS, no matter what, so they could make a quick buck.

>>387013364
In a game where enemies don't drop money, drops sell for a pittance, and the hard quests that take like half an hour get you 1/3 an equip's price, no less.

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>>387013263
Because people like this exist to be fleeced.

>>387015097
>Even though this game was trash
>68
I fucking hate the four-point scale

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It was the start of the Mario on Rails system. Since other companies frequently follow Ninendo's lead (e.g. Rare saw Mario 64, causing them to can Project Dream and make Banjo Kazooie instead) this pretty much led to the death of open world platforming games.

>>387014279
Sad thing is, the development team behind Lunar DS REALLY wanted to make a real Lunar game, but Ubisoft barged in and told them to fuck off. Every bad decision? That was the result of having to rush the game in about 4 months because Ubisoft wanted it to be the FIRST JRPG on the DS. No vetting of ideas, no testing, no shit.

All the Action Replay codes in the world can't make this game fun.

>>387011848
YOU'VE never been stuck in rush 5 hour traffic in Potland.