Why did they think it was a good idea to have mech augs become

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>>386913863
Thing is, I think Eidos is very sympathetic to that ideology, they just portrayed in a way that has the opposite effect of what they intend.

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>>386913714
First, anyone with an aug chip- no matter how minor- went haywire. Second, they only became marginalized after the aug incident, not before. Third, though the game draws on that kind of imagery because the situation in the game has escalated to the point of segregation, it's not a 1:1 allegory.
What I think you're complaining about is the theming of the game and its setting instead of the actual story. The plot is definitely lacking- it's basically just a single act and doesn't even do anything with the CloneJensen subtext it sorely wants you to appreciate. However, the idea of marginalizing augmented after the aug incident is a pretty natural way to continue the universe. Augmented people aren't all portrayed as saints all of a sudden to conform to some allegory about unjust oppression based on trivial characteristics.

>>386913714
The mechanics were nice but I wish we had more opportunities to use them.

So much of the game is spent just fucking around in prague talking to x and going to y and picking up z etc. It had a terrible habbit of ending just as it starts getting good. I was assuming that golem city was gonna be like the -other- overworld that you spend the other half of your time in, but you go there and have a short little espionage scene and then never see it again. When you get captured in that alps base, you sneak around for a while and then just leave and it's over. Nothing really interesting happens there. It just starts and then ends.
Human Revolution had a good blend of "immersive sim" city environments with npcs and stuff with a good, solid amount of secret illuminati bases and government blacksites. Mankind divided is just all nothing all the time. Prague isn't an interesting place and the overworld map is tiny. So much of it is just padding; if felt significantly shorted than human revolution, despite taking about as many hours to complete.

By the end of the game I had maybe 200 shotgun and rifle ammunition because I only ever fired my weapons like 5 times.

Either way, I don't think the idea was quite that augs were an "allegory" for oppressed people. The setting is that people with robot implants are oppressed, and explores robot oppression. I don't think sci fi stories are usually allegories for real life situations; they're about hypothetical situations.

Either way, the concept of "what if robot arms became a big deal" is just far more interesting and open than the concept of "what if robot armed people became oppressed by the government after a calamity"

>>386913714
It's not a fucking "metaphor", you idiot. This entry called for a crackdown on the golden age of augmentation and segregation. They are not telling you to feel sorry for niggers of migrants, they are just telling a story about a possible future issue.

>>386914627
>that image

The thing I don't get is that why is saying Aug Lives Matter somehow an insult to Black Lives Matter? In DEMD augs are a segregated and abused group, and scifi stories are meant to make people view their ideas and concepts from a different perspective. Why is that a bad thing?

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The design behind the game was weak. The execution was as good as it could possibly be, which is still anchored heavily by the shitty plot/writing. The sidequests are great, exploring Prague with end-game aug's has dazzling exploration with smart map decisions. The vents are horribly designed in terms of air flow, I found that very cheesy in all of the Deus Ex games.

>the plot would have been better if the psychologist turned out to be Beth DuClare. The "illuminati" is completely unknown besides Page, Morgan Everett and Lucius DeBeers. Jensen seems to have mentally declined since the Pangaea incident. In a follow up it would be great if they actually wrote his demise well. He deserves an ending where he at least achieved something good

>>386914780
Why put metaphor in quotation marks? Of course this is a metaphor.

>>386914652
I agree with a lot of what you're saying except for the part about sci fi stories not being allegories for real life stuff. Sure, there's a good amount of time when it's just about blowing stuff up in new and interesting ways and that's perfectly fine, but in DEMD it feels like there's too much crossover between the fictional social issues and real social issues to just handwave away. To be fair I do watch a lot of Star Trek so maybe I'm biased.

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>>386915253
No, it isn't.
There are correlations and reaemblances real events, but calling it a "metaphpr" outright states that the entire game is a vehicle for rainbow nigger oppression fantasy and that is simply, demonstrably, and obviously not the case, unless you are indeed, a peanut head fool with a very low IQ and no understanding whatsoever of politics, fiction or the storytelling procedure within a modern videogame.


You are an imbecile.

>>386915253
It's a story about robots getting segregated. This has some similarities to and draws from actual real life oppression, but isn't -about- real life oppression.

That is the entire point of sci-fi. Theoretical societal issues. Not real societal issues.

>>386915847
Actually if the entire game was a vehicle for rainbow nigger oppression fantasy it would be an allegory, not a metaphor.

Why do think that it is "simply, demonstrably, and obviously not the case?"

>>386915847
To paint this clearer for you:

The game is a POWER fantasy, not a VICTIM fantasy. You are not even required to take the morality of the victims save for a few key dialogue sections, which is actually a change from the grey morality of the first game and the character's otherwise steel consistency.

>>386916031
Allegories are not metaphors, anon.
At best you can say that there are "allusions" to real life events, but get this, writing realistic sounding fiction usually follows past events or patterns to some degree or another. That does not mean that the event in the game was written specifically to draw attention to some imagined victim scenario in the real world, nor does it mean that it is "Based" off the event that may have even partially inspired it.

>>386916227
Your post sounds like you're trying to present to me two incredibly contradicting ideas as a cohesive thought. A game heavily featuring discrimination against a group of people when real life social issues are more electrified than ever? Just because something draws inspiration from poignant scenarios in the real world does not mean that it has anything at all to do or say about the real world? That's one hell of a paradox.

>>386913714
Conspiracy theory culture is even bigger than it was twenty years ago and they could've had a shitload of more material to work with while staying faithful to the original.

But they're soft-left Canadian faggots, so they just wrote some incoherent nonsense about muh prosthetic oppression.

It's disappointing to think about how good of a game we could have gotten if they didn't try to turn MD into a 3 game series.

>>386917339
Very apparent when I reached the end of the game and it suddenly cut off.

>>386916864
No it isn't.

That's literally what it is. Allusions happen without saying anything meaningful.

>>386917635
That last level was pretty great, but yeah, nothing really happens in the plot.

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>>386913714
Cause everything has to be about MUH OPPRESSION these days. Not that you can talk about it being a cis white male.

The Google guy was absolutely right in one thing, pic related.

>>386918014
I would argue that allusions are not being made because an allusion is a passing reference, not an important narrative device like the social issues constantly being portrayed in DEMD.

>>386918374
I consider myself to have a pretty Marxist outlook on politics and society and I think this is spot on.

>boohoo the people who literally committed a holocaust overnight aren't trusted anymore :'(

>>386918573

Marx self is okay, I mean, a lot of the actual social programs argued for (covered medical care, social security to care for the old, food being ensured to those would had been denied it, etc.) are just kind of standard by now. It is, as always, a problem of people who cherry pick a leaders words only to justify themselves.

>>386918374
Communism is something a capitalist society can evolve into once it reaches post-scarcity levels of development. You can't just decide to be The Federation overnight and install replicators in the home of every peasant.

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Anyone else irked by the subtitles? I'm playing on PS4 and it's an entire paragraph taking up half the screen most of the time. Like who hand-waved this shit through?

>>386918573
I'm just happy this is getting mainstream attention for once, and it's coming from someone with a PhD from Harvard so it doesn't sound like some stupid conspiracy theory.

I also agree that some form of socialism is good, but what Marxists have been trying to do is just plain retarded.

>>386917339
And now that Square Enix fucked over Eidos we're not getting the other two games at all

>>386913863
Nice narrative

>>386913863
Kek what the fuck?