In some alternate universe, Artifact was just a meme valve created

there's only one universe and you live in it.

>hlcuck
lmao

>>386802916
but... pickle rick....

>>386801438
Artifact is going to dominate the Steam Marketplace trading scene. People in any game that has trading enabled will be shilling their Artifact inventories. BUY CARD PACKS NOW BUY CARD PACKS NOW BUY CARD PACKS NOW BUY CARD PACKS NOW BUY CARD PACKS NOW

>>386804779
Lol

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Don't even fucking want HL3 at this point, a new L4D would be great

I don't care much for card games but I'd still rather a dota card game than garbage half life 3

>>386805289
this

>>386805289
This. L4D is funner than HL.

>>386805289
People only want HL3 so we can finally have some closure on a decade-old cliffhanger, also the story actually seemed like it was about to go weird places.

Otherwise yeah, L4D is a great game to get a rush going with, a 3rd entry would be welcomed.

>>386801438
You think they would ever make a Team Fortress 3?

HL3 will NEVER be made. All it would do is damage Valve's brand at this point, no matter what they do with it people will view it as a disappointment. That's to say nothing about how the level of money they could expect to make with it is a drop in the ocean compared to the fuckloads of cash their one-day-illegal gambling and free to play models pump out. Everyone who expects to see HL3, ever, is deluding themselves.

>muh hl3
Kys

>>386809101
yes. it would look a lot like Overwatch at a glance (especially in being Hero rather than Class based - no more loadouts) but actually play almost totally differently (would be 100% PC exclusive, for starters, with real PC-quality netcode, not the console abomination of Overwatch), eg. much more twitch-based, much more open and complex maps, much more opportunity for community involvement (as Valve has always prided themselves on, eg. community servers, community made maps/modes). Basically imagine if Overwatch was actually good, that's TF3.

the #1 barrier to it ever happening is TF2s continued activity. it would have to drop off the top-10 most played list for them to ever even consider retiring it.

>>386802916

This explanation never accounts for one thing...

Space is expanding, right? What medium is it expanding into?

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>>386809515
wrong

>>386801438
Not buying it. Anyone who complained about its release with a smidgen of self-respect won't either.

>>386810390
>(especially in being Hero rather than Class based - no more loadouts)
Fuck that dumb shit. Loadouts are good.

If you have 25 heroes like Overshit does, your playstyle choices are locked in with no room for individual adjustment (like Overshit), and all the characters are bland and boring (like Overshit) because they don't have time to develop them.

>>386810390
>ow fans will call tf3 a ripoff

>>386810492
God's dildo collection.

>>386810492
there's nothing for it to expand into, "space" isn't a thing, the distance between the things is increasing

They have 3 (kek) games in development for Vive that we will only be seeing stuff next year. Artifact will be a fun game if possible to play on smartphones too and dont drain your battery in just 40 minutes.

>>386810492
video games

>>386811493
>Loadouts are good.
Yep, you get it. TF2 is more interesting because you have a scale of options that can't exist in a hero-based shooter with no loadouts. Part of why OW is boring to me, you can't ever try anything new with a character, outside of a skin that doesn't really matter.

>>386811913
>you need to spend $700 to get a setup that enables you to pay $150 for valve's next games

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What if Valve announced a new IP unrelated to anything they've made before? What would you hope they would make?

Honestly, I'm more interested in how they'll transfer their f2p model to a CCG, or if it'll be f2p to begin with. If they just give out all the cards to begin with, it might be worth checking out. The design of the game would be drastically different.

>>386814042
I'd love to see their take on a sci-fi/cyberpunk world that isn't HL.

>>386814042
F-Stop, or some kind of RPG like they're hinting at.

>>386814227
Easy, they'll definitely have card drops and you can sell them on the market. Market sales are genius. It reduces the amount of money in Steam wallets dramatically because they take a cut each sale. They can make far more than a card is worth.

>>386814227
Man, they already have trading cards and booster packs and a whole fucking market built into Steam. All this steam trading card bullshit was just a test to see how much money they could wring out of people with digital cards. Artifact is just the next step in this plan.

Expect them to be even more jewish than Hearthstone with card drops because you can just buy the rare cards you need on the market. They'll tease you with a few free packs here and there and then sink their hooks deep into you.

>>386811493
>>386812836
I'll agree it's been a qualified success for TF2, but it's not supportable past a certain point (level of complexity in maximum possible loadouts). The workload to balance it becomes too great, and so there simply are no major balance-changing additions made. This is exactly what happened to TF2, and ever since then, when they moved to a single big annual update, they've been significantly focused on forcing in the 'subclasses' by reducing inter-weapon-set compatibility (eg. taking of everything that might help a half-knight from demoknight gear and making it exclusively shield-focused, same for spy and scout to lesser degrees) and cleaning up general sideeffects of the loadout system (eg. eliminating passive effects from weapons that might not always be visible).

Hero-based structure bypasses all of this, and is much more accessible. great complexity is still possible, Overwatch fails this by being generally oversimplified, not as a necessary consequence of being Hero based

>>386810492
there's literally no edge or "outside" of space. expansion of space means all particles within the space are moving outwards from the center. If there were any other universes different from our own, it would be on another plane of existence separated by a higher dimension

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>>386801438
Why the fuck did they make source 2, AND THE FIRST GAME THEY MAKE IS THIS PIECE OF GARBAGE?!

>>386818169
Source 2's biggest goal was ease of content creation, so they went ahead and tested it out with the easiest content to create.

>Gordon Freeman's VA will die before a new game is made

>>386818169
The first game made for Source 2 was Half-Life 3 (their development inseparable, HL3 needs informing Source 2 development). The first one released was the DOTA2 port. The second released was The Lab (specifically the Robot Repair demo, the rest was in Unity). The third will most likely be a CS:GO port, unless there is a surprise release before then. Personally I'd bet they will have one of their promised 'full AAA VR games' out on Source 2 before Artifact.

>>386819087
Why? Is he really old?

>>386810503
>maybe if i post the same years old leaks in every thread it will come out
go ahead post the stupid files and shit that is also years old
its not happening

>>386819302
>Valve
>putting out another game before the already announced CS:GO Source 2 port and Artifact, which will probably come out in March

lol

>>386819418
I think he has cancer

>>386819584
There are big things coming, for VR. "Real games."

>>386820082
Onward and bridge crew are the only 2 things other than porn worth VR right now

>>386820082
I don't doubt that (with almost all of their staff seemingly working on VR, they damn well better have something) , but they'd be releasing Q2 2018 at the earliest. CS:GO Source 2 is later this year and they'll push Artifact out well before the next International so they can have a tournament there.

>>386801438
There is no universe where Valve didn't become a greedy jew firm and continued to make good games

>>386819508
The HD D0G model leak is just about a year old. It came from the 'VR Performance Test App' which unintentionally exposed WIP directories for several other unreleased VR demos (like Robot Repair).

There are leaks going back several years, because the leaks have been fairly constant for several years.

>>386804779
Xd

>>386810492
the space within the universe is expanding, not the universe itself

>>386810503
They have fired their writing and traditional game dev talent. Who at Valve is making HL3?

>>386811402
>self-respect

The people that play Dota don't have any of this and they throw hundreds of dollars on cosmetics and chests.

>>386819087
Heh, well Dr.Breen's voice actor sure did.
And he was the only fucker giving us good information.

>>386818169
>Why the fuck did they make source 2, AND THE FIRST GAME THEY MAKE IS THIS PIECE OF GARBAGE?!

Dota 2 was the first game for Source 2. It was ported over. That good took priority over everything else.

Valve's most valuable IP right now is Dota 2.

>>386805289

Same, I was too late for the other 2.

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>>386801438
>this triggers the reddit-browsing cyborgfatt

>>386822795
Wait that guy is dead? He had a nice sounding voice.

>>386822653
>fired

Half-life's writers left the company because there was nothing for them to do, save writing shit that even the programmers could handle (blog posts, item descriptions, ect.).

>>386823137
I mean every sale there's always a new influx of players for Left 4 Dead 2. Try then.

>>386823201
robert culp yeah he died a few years back.

>>386801438
>triangular logo
>illuminati represented by a pyramid
>2d pyramid is a triangle
>a triangle has 3 sides
>3
>half-life 3
>half-life
>otherworldly beings harvesting humanity
>illuminati
>otherwordly beings harvesting humanity
>half-life 3 blocked by illuminati
>valve
>gabeN
>artifact
>broken triangle
>pyramid = heirarchy
>broken pyramid
>gabeN shattering illuminati heirarchy
>free humanity of illuminati
>free human
>freeman
>half-life 3 confirmed

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>>386822795
>>386823201
>>386823367
Well, they could rework some of their old concepts for the next game, and give him a robotic voice after he gives up his humanity.

next game. hahaha :(

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Why do you all even want Half Life 3? It would end up being made by a bunch of retarded new blood who only know how to make hats and DOTA 2 heroes.

>card game based on a remake of a custom map for an RTS game
Videogames were a mistake

>>386823657
Doesn't have to be Half Life 3. Can be literally anything else in their franchise.
Just..not..this.. garbage

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>>386823657
>valve
>making dota 2 heroes
>making hats

They can barely push 1 hero/year, and all their hats are outsourced to the workshop now.

The only thing they do now is stamp their approval on workshop submissions and have big pink cookie-fueled orgies.

Thank God Bethesda Studio's Creation Club will have Bethesda artists involved in every step of community add-on creation.

>>386805289
yeah this

l4d3 plz

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>>386814296
>team fortress 3 in a cyberpunk setting

>>386817926
>The workload to balance it becomes too great
That's true for any game with a large amount of content.
Besides, it doesn't ALL have to be balanced. So long as most of it's balanced and none of it is OP, nobody will complain.
>This is exactly what happened to TF2
TF2 is almost perfectly balanced for pubs right now with loadouts, and has been horribly imbalanced for competitive gameplay since day 1, loadouts or no loadouts.
>Hero-based structure bypasses all of this, and is much more accessible
>accessible
What do you actually mean by this? Sounds like casualization to me.

Hero-based structure does not remove balance issues whatsoever.

>>386824018
What do the people at Valve even do?

>>386801438
In an interview in times Gaben stated that the video game industry can't keep going like it does today. He said the bubble will pop and the companies which invested too much in dev time will not have much in the way of reimbursement for losses. There's a need to lower budgets and make simpler games with focus on accessibility and not core demographics. Basically he is saying that all of video games is a tapestry of niche markets and you have to carpet bomb them with trash to survive.

>>386823421
The cake is a lie XD

>>386825116
Whatever the hell they want. So long as they aren't literally doing nothing for months on end, they'll keep their job because Gabe doesn't want to be too hands-on.

Portal 3 will most likely be their big VR game. I mean it's honestly the perfect concept for a VR game except for pussies that get vertigo over small shit like slight FoV changes

>>386810492
>Space is expanding, right?
How can humans tell for sure, for all we know that may just be an optical illusion.

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>>386804779
hehe

>>386809515
>no matter what they do with it people will view it as a disappointment
You are wrong. Half-Life is a classic and people love Valve, so no matter what they release under Half-Life, people will eat that shit up. The only ones that will hate it will be contrarians from /v/.

>>386828760
>so no matter what they release under Half-Life, people will eat that shit up. The only ones that will hate it will be contrarians from /v/.

Ease up on the buzzwords.

You yourself said that a large chunk of people would eat HL3 up regardless of quality. In other words if the game was shit the people that aren't mindless fanboys would think that the game was shit.
You on the other hand labeled these people as "contrarians" which is what they wouldn't be in this case.

>>386828482
Every day we fire a laser to the moon and measure the response time. When they first landed on the moon they placed a piece of reflector on it so they could accurately measure the space between the moon and earth. However during the past handful of years, they noticed the number slowly get bigger. This began two theories. One, the universe as a whole is expanding, thus the space between all physical objects slowly are getting further apart. Or two, the earth's molten core is slowly cooling thus powering down its magnet we call the gravitational pull, with a gravitational pull weakening, it would mean that all objects are just going further away from the earth itself.

Look it up.

>>386801438
face it anon.

hl3 is guaranteed to be shit, if it ever is made.

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>only 3 people are developing Artifact
>one of them is a writer
>other one is an ex-double fine employee

WHAT THE FUCK

WHY AREN'T THESE IDIOTS DEVELOPING HALF LIFE 3

RIGHT
NOW

>>386830952
i feel like even a card game should have more people working on it

>>386830998
They're probably going to reuse a lot of assets from Dota, or have artists from the Dota team help out from time to time.

>>386825116
They get a cool idea, start working on it, then because everyone is free to do whatever, people move on to other projects instead, and then the cycle starts over, never getting anything done.

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>>386830952
What the hell, man.

>>386831801
>going from being paid peanuts to shit out Duke Nukem Forever on a tight schedule to getting one of the best paying jobs in the industry where you aren't even required to deliver a finished product at all

I'd say he has it pretty good.

>>386801438
In some alternate universe, Valve is just a plumbing company.