Grimoire thread Real thread here boys, talk about the game and

>>386767628
What are you supposed to do after chamber of the waters?

Do I go back to eyrie?

>>386767951
Yeah no shit, I'm asking so when people come I can get a response.

What are the chances of this being in the Winter Sale? I want to buy it, but am currently poor.

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What is the minimum swimming/climbing I need to not fuck myself over?

What stats should a cleric focus on?

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>>386767628
>Each new patch breaks something else
>Manual supposed to come out on Monday, still nothing
>Terrible inventory management
>Shitty UI in general
>Annoying sound effects
>Mediocre generic writing
>Looks like shit, not even taking into account the many different artstyles clashing against each other
>Holy fuck those portraits
>Unbalanced combat
>Bugged up the asshole
T W E N T Y
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Y E A R S

>>386768468
I didn't have swimming at all until chamber of waters and I just leveled everyone up to 100 by stepping into it, resting and redoing it. I will do the same for climbing. Just make sure one person has 20+ and my sage has featherfall.

>>386768536
wisdom/devotion/int

>>386768550
The new patch is solid, your pasta is stale

>>386768398
he said he would never have it on sale beyond this week

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>>386768398
>What are the chances of this being in the Winter Sale?
Zero. The high price is the only thing holding back the flood of SJWs and retards.
>I want to buy it, but am currently poor.
Bill it from another region and get it cheaper? Don't know what to tell you. Sorry, dude.

>>386768225
I haven't found any spellbooks with damage spells in them yet. My sage is level 4 and have access to these damage spells: Shrill Sound, Poison,Psyonic Blast.

He's got debilitation and statuses up the ass though. Brain Rot, Dread, Confusion, Sleep, Ventriloquism, Missile Shield(scroll, IIRC) and Charm. The latest patch fixed levelling up music every time you used an instrument so I don't have to feel bad about playing harps either. He's an amazing asset

>>386765409
Can anybody shed some light on this?

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>>386768398

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>>386768815
Can't you tell from looking at the screenshots? That's the game.

>>386768815
You can tell things apart. It's not hard at all.

>>386767628
Anyone here gotten past chamber of the wastes?

>>386768598
>I didn't have swimming at all until chamber of waters and I just leveled everyone up to 100 by stepping into it, resting and redoing it. I will do the same for climbing. Just make sure one person has 20+ and my sage has featherfall.
Alright, thanks dude.

>>386769209
and your sage*

featherfall prevents damage from falling when climbing

Do I really have to recruit Snivels to walk the path of the elders, or can I just be dumb enough to trigger all the traps? Neither of the two rats will tell me the path even when charmed, but I have more exploring to do anyway

>>386769386
I'm not sure, hey after chamber of the wastes where did you go? I am still in samhain but think I have to go back to make the egg again.

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People are starting to get way farther in the game than I am and I can't help any more. Hope I have some time to make some real progress tonight. Work is killing me.

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>>386768758

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>>386768758
>>386768692
>>386768825
Welp, time to start saving

>>386769798
just get it from a different region, get it for like 20 bucks

>>386769798
It's not the first time the 'thall goes back on his word, probably not this year but next year he'll put it on sale since there'll be less steam on it.

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>>386769798
>$40
>saving
No offense, but sort out your shit, dude.

someone buy me this game. or just add me on steam and tell me how cool it is. I need friends interested in this shit.

Steam iD: Taiylz

>>386770461
The game is very cool, just need more people helping eachother out.

>>386770524

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?forums/clevesbunker/

>>386770596
I don't have a codex account.

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>>386770461
Pretty cool arts, dude.

>>386770596
Can I escape shitposting goons there?

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Daily remainder that you are real Neanderthal only if you have pic related.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occipital_bun

>make one real thread and one sapebait shitposting thread
>all the faggots funnel into one thread and we are free to discuss the game here
nice

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>>386770596
I miss forums and how everyone would stay on topic.
It's too bad, the mods or the admin is probably some power tripping asshole that would ban you for saying gg.

>>386771145
that was the plan honestly, hopefully people find the real thread soon , I'm confused about the mechano owl

>>386770732
'eeeyyyy. Thanks dude.

>>386771364
I believe you put an egg next to the mechno owl.

>>386769548
Did you ride the turtle and explore the entirety of the chamber of waters? It's in a secret tunnel about 3 swim squares away from you. You won't need the egg until after the samhein horror is dead

>>386771465
I figured it out, let me know if you want to know for future reference, wasn't that bad to figure out.

>>386771528
I was just swimming in chamber of waters, the turtle never came, I explored most of it tho

Anyone with 100+ AC can confirm the overflow isnt just visual?
Is unnarmed combat viable at all? I've seen a lot of recommendations to use it early game but weapon skills only seem to add accuracy.
What is the weakest item I can craft with metallurgy?

>>386771715
Noone knows how to craft yet. The unarmed combat is ok with a Drake but it just seems pointless to weapons because I can't find like a monk fist or something like that.

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>>386771324

The codex is one of the last free speech forums. You can call anyone a nigger faggot kike there.

>>386771801
>One guy says trans are under-represented in Cleve's game
Welp, it was a good long run.

Wiz7 Bruh here

I am at Munkharma city and I was walking around for like 40 minutes and wandering through towns. Ended up looking at a walkthrough

I have to say I feel like a retard for not being able to figure these things out at times

>>386771931

He was probably being ironic or something.

>>386772048
yeah this

Anyone want to tell me how i get my berserker to not attack allies?

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Holy fuck the world does open after killing the horror, I'm at the sphinx dungeon now and it just keeps going

also what's the answer?

>>386772184
A MUSHROOM

>>386772156
>go berserk
>rest after battle
>don't update the command next battle
now he will just keep berserking and only attack the enemy, not sure if this is a bug or what

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>https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/%20muh%20dragons.jpg/
what did he mean by this?

>>386772184
Mushroom?

>>386772156
you have to get the skill up, once it's like above 50 it will happen less and less, I'm leveling lethal blow first though

why don't people admit that they feel stupid often while playing these games

like is there really that many people who just knows to go to the owl tablet corner and pick up the roost for the shindig and then use the right keywords in his discussions or are you all just pretending to not use walkthroughs routinely when you get stuck

only problem is I think walkthroughs ruin the immersion

>>386772582
I wouldn't have made it as far as I have without help from anons in these threads, I wasnt aware there were any walkthroughs though

>>386772582
The egg -> Yolk -> Egg -> machine -> Roost -> Wait is told to you in one of the mosiacs.

If you also use Improved Identify the journal entries help with 90% of the problems.

For keywords in discussions, use Mindread and you have no problem at all.

>>386771528
How do you get the turtle to spawn?

>>386772582
I do often, but I always try to remember things I read and hear in game so I can piece the clues together by context.

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Poison and sleep work best on Hobknob.
Also, if you have Insect Swarm, that works too.

Is this the end?

>>386767628
Anyone know how to get turtle to spawn?

Oh, fug, these are a lot of Ore Worms.

>>386773593
end of what?

>>386773778
face to the right from the pier, 2 tiles, face south, 1 tile, secret switch on the wall

>>386774267
Of the grimoire threads.

>>386774532
Probably honestly, this is not bad for a non-shitposting thread though

>>386774732
When your fanbase is full of morons who refuse to acknowledge your game's faults, every thread is a shitposting thread.

so is the museum in crowl or another city? also i was told there were darts.

>>386774857
The game is good though, there's not much wrong with it anymore. People are just shitposting about saves being deleted which is false, everyone else is enjoying the game. Simple.

>>386774908
It is in crowl, downstairs where you meat trimeste.

>Disrupting sleep makes your members not move
How lovely.

>>386774532
Grimoire players only come out at night.

>>386775013
>everyone else is enjoying the game
Yeah, all 115 of them, KEK!

>>386774857
>>386775013
We don't talk about videogames without shitposting.

If there is no shitposting there is nothing to talk about.

How the fuck do I open the doors in the Catacombs?

>>386775162
This thread is for people who discuss the game. Not shitskins like yourself.

>>386775373
You have to lockpick it or bust it down. You can also get the key from gorgon.

>>386772839
>>386773778

It's not on the tile 3 squares in front of you, that's just to complete the quest, it's to the right hidden behind a wall. Cast Wizard eye to get a glimpse of the layout of the floor if you have it.

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b-but ITS GOT UNBALANCED BARDS AND HE DIDNT ADMIT IT MOMMMMMMM

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Does anyone know the word combination you have to use here? I keep trying to say like in the mural ''I bring my soul as a offering'' but it doesn't work.

>>386775013
errr trimeste??

>>386775604
No, I mean IN the Catacombs.
The 2 brown locked doors.
One of them has a ghost and I need a codeword or some shit.
I don't have the key for the other one.
I'm looking for some Bishop's remain.

>>386775162
+2000 pirates

>>386776032
The colorful mage guy.

>>386776074
The codeword is in a body of water near the door. Search it and it will tell you. If you want I can tell you right now.

>>386776227
Holy shit I tried like 50 different words.
I didn't think the codeword would be written nearby. I didn't think it'd be so simple.
Thanks anyway.

>>386767628
here's a good tip:

leave the game running 24/7 and never save. that way you don't have to worry about cleve shitting everything up.

>>386776029
Wait until us sapes catch up with you senpai

>>386776708
The new patch is perfectly fine, saves never got deleted, worst case scenario we would just roll back to this patch.

I love the art for the ore worms.
It's too bad they're a massive pain in the ass.

>>386777751
I actually don't like how they look for some reason. It bothers me. The armor destruction is horrible though.

i still don't understand how berserking works, my guy just hits himself, and why does spells bounce back and kill my entire party?

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>>386777846
>They can also destroy your weapons.
That's evil.

>>386778283
You have to get the berserking skill higher. Spells fail because you don't have enough into to cast higher level versions of the spell. So they fizzle.

>>386778475
ahhhh... that makes sense, how do you know int requirements for spells ?

i didnt buy the game, but my dad did, he has 63 hours so far im glad hes enjoying it

>>386775162
>Implying that exculsivity is a bad thing
Go back to your PBUH Battlegrounds Popamole microtransaction fest, Sape

>>386778534
I don't, I just figure the higher mana it costs for max level cast, the higher int you need for damage spells.

>>386778652

spread ur boipucci boy!

>>386779505
i mean my biological dad, he loves dungeon crawlers and has been waiting for this game before i was born

>>386770062
how

you know, why hasn't anyone made an ape escape cover edit and changed it to sape escape with cleve chasing people?

Anyone know whats up with drow lv rate, I'm soloing and have a lv 9 drow ranger and its telling me I need 1120701 to lv again. I'll never get there even soloing at these low xp rates on mobs.

Is it just the drow class that has these super high xp rates because I seen a steam and the guy had a lv 9 drake bard and he only was needing like 400000 to lv too 10.

If it just drow I'm going to start over, anyone know the fastest race for leveling?

>>386781179
I don't know the fastest race for leveling but it seems that drow is bad for being a caster. Maybe as a ranger or thief they would be decent, but they have horrible hp regen.

When the hell can I cure paralysis? I don't have access to the Shrine pool.

My metalsmith has like 1 point in paralysis and I can't cure it, I already used two potions I had. Is the potion for sale in town?

>>386781461
Drow and human have the absolute lowest MP regen in the game, they're downright awful casters.

>>386781637
Yeah I know that, what about lv rate on these races?

>>386781718
Can't say for sure, I've closed the game

>>386781574
Just go down to the shrine pool. You'll be using it a lot until you get cure disease.

>>386781918
I said I don't have access to the pool. I picked a different start. I have cure disease but it doesn't help against paralysis once you're afflicted with it

Where's the pirate version of the latest patch?

>>386782037
Honestly save scum until you can learn the cure disease spell at lvl 4 cleric, otherwise, you can have another character give your fucked up guy a cure paralysis potion and leech. But really most of the shit that goes wrong is this game can be avoided by savescumming, don't feel bad about it.

>>386782037
>paralysis
just rest. if you have a disease, you HAVE TO CURE THE DISEASE because they add other effects like paralysis. some of the bushes in the woods can be LOOKed at to get disease curing apples

>>386768398
I would say given the accuracy of what Cleve says, quite likely.
Or at least in the spring/summer of next year when Cleve needs more money.

>>386782214
https://mega.nz/#!VypRCSiS!jNH_wPTDeYmAlaMEoZ8McE4vV6sk_ubTY8GOlenskGU
1.2.0.14
russian bitcoiner miner keylogger sape credit card IFR scanner

>>386782247
Apples also cure diseases.

>>386781637
Hey do you know what class has better mp regen

Is there a editor for download somewhere?

>>386782624
the wolves have the best. fairy and eyeball are good too.

>>386782247
>>386782286
Yeah I know that I have a party with level 4 and 5s, I've gotten past the Lich but this time I simply didn't notice the disease and cured it one step too late. I've been lazy with quick saving and my next recent save is an hour old.

I've closed the game cause I'm heading to bed I just wanted to know if there is a spell that cures paralysis, and if the potion is indeed purchasable from someone in the town.

>>386782624
http://steamcommunity.com/app/650670/discussions/0/1471967615867879723/

>dwarf/wolfin(ultra mega fast lol)>>>>>>>>>>aeob/durendil/saurian>>giant/vamphyr/faefolk(fast)>>>>>>>>human/drow(most horrible)

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>2017
>USA finally ruled by benevolent emperor
>Effective sjw-filtering game released after 20 years

It's probably the most comprehensive cRPG released to date. Too bad BotW will beat it out for game of the year because there is no justice in the world.

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>>386782886

>>386782886
>Thinking your shitty game could compete against BotW.
>pic is "welcome to reality"
The fucking irony.

>>386782829
>spell that cures paralysis
not that i've seen, you just have to rest it out or find the potions that do it. maybe you can buy one later, or find a store that buys potions later, i still haven't found one

>>386782214
Do you honestly not think 20 man years of development time isn't worth his asking price of a few buckaroos?

You are decline personified.

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>>386783040
>>386783216

I bet you two fags think Undertale is a cRPG, huh?

>>386783279
Alright, I thought paralysis was one of those things that simply kept increasing or didn't go away on its own. I guess there was just a sliver of disease the last time when my thief was paralyzed since waiting simply shot all the way up to full.

>>386783519
I saw a dude the other day claim that SMT and Final Fantasy were DRPG's, and he was DEFENDING this shitty game.

>>386783658
This game is good tho.

>>386768825
Watch it go -75% in a year when it sells a total of 7000 copies.
Jeff Vogel said the same thing.

>>386783519
Nope, but I think you are a retarded faggot

How is the story so far? Anything compelling?

>>386783952
nothin special but if your into very deep combat and character building, story don't matter anyway

>>386784138
Eh to be honest, I'm turned off by all the complex stats and mechanics in the game. I'm just too old to bother with that now. I think I would rather replay NWN 2 MOTB for a bit instead. I don't know how you guys put up with it.

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>>386783658
He's not wrong on SMT and DQ 1/2. Wizardry was a big influence on Final Fantasy, all JRPGs were. SMT follows the look of wizardry to the tee, it has a first person dungeon crawling mechanic, basically a "blobber" if you are a faggot.

Saying that they aren't influenced by them kinda makes you retarded lol.

And I have played wizardry 6-8 and rivia and might and magic.

>>386784695
>He
You're not fooling anyone chief. If DQ is a Wizardry clone then Metroid is a Mario clone.

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>>386767628
>Real thread here boys

trap here, can I still enjoy this game?

>>386784353
complexity and challenging you mentally is fun, if you aren't a casual

>>386784952
yes, but first thing's first, today is penis inspection day!

>>386784952
>>386785061
Kill yourself

>>386784868
KEK, I'm pretty sure DQ and FF creators cited wizardry as their inspiration and games that they loved back in the day.

Again because you are kinda slow and retarded. SMT 1/2 is wizardry without DnD mechanics, the first person battle system, the exploration by tiles. It's wizardry with angels and demons.

Saying SMT is nothing like wizardry is like saying that quake is not similar to counterstrike.

You are fucking retarded.

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>ITT nerds paid 40 to immerse themselves in pic related

THEY ARE LITERALLY OFFERING HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF THEIR LIVES TO A SHITTY WIZARDRY FANFIC RENDERED IN HIDEOUS FLAT FLASH ANIMATION TIER ART


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>386785307
>KEK, I'm pretty sure DQ and FF creators cited wizardry as their inspiration and games that they loved back in the day.
Okay, being inspired by something is not the same thing as actually being that thing though.
>SMT 1/2 is wizardry
The only similarities between Wizardry and SMT is the fact that you're in a 1st person perspective while exploring a tile based dungeon.
>Saying SMT is nothing like wizardry is like saying that quake is not similar to counterstrike.
They really aren't, aside from being first-person shooters.

>>386786056
But counter strike was influenced by quake, SMT is literally dungeon rpg, it follows the same gameplay loop. God damn dude you really are butthurt.

who cares full price vs 10%?

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>tfw Refunding successfully from this fucking mess
You should do it before it's too late, anon.

>>386785714
>reposting my screenshot
That fight was pretty great, dude.

>>386786145
>But counter strike was influenced by quake
And is a completely different game from quake as well.
>SMT is literally dungeon rpg
That plays nothing like Wizardry aside from being in 1st person for some of its games.
>it follows the same gameplay loop
Maybe if you're an idiot who has never actually played the games, sure.

>>386783658
SMT 1/2 are surprisingly good blobbers. Everything went to shit after that.

The art is better in this game than other games that are considered "indie artistic" like Limbo, Machinarium, Pyre, and stuff like that.

That's just how I feel about it. I think the game looks awesome visually. It's kind of quirky ... it has real spirit though which really matters. The interface is cool too in my opinion

>>386786056
>>386786946
All these words to say, "nuh-uh" What are you doing, faggot?

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>>386787158
>The art is better in this game than other games that are considered "indie artistic" like Limbo, Machinarium, Pyre, and stuff like that.
Holy fuck y'all niggas is blind

>>386787373
It's obvious the moment you pop the games in that SMT plays nothing like Wizardry. I don't even know why you're pushing this meme in the first place.

>>386787158
You should donate your eyes to science because eyesight is wasted on you.

>>386787379
People will be playing this game for months to come and literally nothing you can post, say, or do will change their experience - the more time and energy that you spend (waste) the better, as soulless faggots wasting energy doing meaningless bullshit and thus hurting only themselves is a net benefit for the world.

>>386787474
Not him.

>>386787483
It's aesthetic.

Limbo, Machinarium, Pyre... not so much.

Doubt you'd understand what that means sape.

>>386787530
>People will be playing this game for months
How optimistic.
>as soulless faggots wasting energy doing meaningless bullshit and thus hurting only themselves is a net benefit for the world.
I hope you realize the irony of spouting this while playing a video game.

>>386787665
yes, because enjoying a rich story and gaming experience and learning from it in a positive manner is the same as making hopelessly ineffective posts online at people who aren't listening to you

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>>386787530
>as soulless faggots wasting energy doing meaningless bullshit and thus hurting only themselves is a net benefit for the world

Like playing Shitwah.

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FRIENDLY REMINDER

The small minority of prolific samefags that support the game blindly should be ridiculed or avoided. Their posts are redundant and easy to spot often including:

>Sape (negative)
>Thal (positive)
>Incline
>Blobber
>The spelling "Grimwah"
>Pressure to purchase Grimoire
>Contempt for the pirating of Grimoire
>Claims that uploaded copies of Grimoire contain viruses, bitcoin miners, keyloggers
>Insults and slurs intended to bait someone named Andrew
>Labeling of the game's art style as competent to gorgeous
>Idolatry involving Cleveland Blakemore
>Prejudices within the genre based on game region
>Grandstanding
>Elitism
>Rabid belligerence
>Ignorance regarding good game design
>Ignorance regarding good writing
>Ignorance regarding color theory
>Ignorance regarding math and the interactivity of simple systems

They argue poorly as well, when faced with logic they'll adopt a veteran gamer stance and insist their opponent is better suited playing games generally regarded as casual, i.e. "Go back to Skyrim, kid." Or the new favorite, "You haven't even played Wizardry."

Bottom of the barrel shitposts from rookie anglers.

Enjoy the thread.

>>386787948
nice essay

>>386787948
What if some people just like the game for what it is and don't care about the memes and politics?

>>386787948
>list doesn't even mention how racist and misogynist i am
shit/10

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>>386787615
>muh art style
>inb4 THAT'S TRASH LOL
I mean, I guess anything would look aesthetically pleasing if you've been looking at nothing but cave drawings.

>>386787783
Yet at the end of the day, neither of us are doing anything productive, except I'm not the one claiming otherwise.

I really enjoyed Legend of Grimrock 1 and 2, is this game similar?

>>386788873
It's better

>>386788873
Yes and no, it's turn based with DnD mechanics. Like wizardry.

>>386788873
>I really enjoyed Legend of Grimrock 1 and 2, is this game similar?
No, Lands of Lore and Dungeon Masters is what you should play next if you want more of that if I'm being honest. Grimoire is really fucking good and you should still try it, though.

>>386789175
Yeah, I think I'd be more willing to try it if the price tag wasn't so hefty and I'm seeing a lot of people complaining about corrupted saves and other bugs. I'd just refund if I didn't like it but I'm sure a game like this needs more than 2 hours to get a feel for.

Thanks for the recommendations.

>>386767628
How am i supposed to find out what i'm supposed to say to the Keeper in the crypts below the Crusader Temple? The NPCs aren't helping at all, even with mind read.

>>386789417
>Yeah, I think I'd be more willing to try it if the price tag wasn't so hefty
Links to a clean pirated copy were in the last thread. Do what you have to do. Save files should be transferable to a purchased copy. Cleve has already openly stated he intentionally left out DRM so people would pirate the earlier versions and get to check the game out.
>I'm seeing a lot of people complaining about corrupted saves and other bugs
Mostly shitposting. There was some random crashes and a patch didn't load saves. (but the saves themselves are fine)

Definitely try those 2 games, though. They are much tougher than Grimrock, but also much better. Lands of Lore is the easier of the two.

Do you get locked from other starting places or you an do them later/?

>>386789552
I don't understand what you are asking. Post a screenshot.

>want to buy the game
>always go by a "judge the game, not the dev" policy
>it's fucking Cleve
He has been sent to test my resolve. Can one truly ignore a shit stain this large? Find out next episode.

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>>386790141
none of the NPCs are giving me clues on how to get to the cenotaph and i have a feeling i'll find a way in once i finish this dungeon

>>386790304
>When you're actually playing Grimoire, it looks literally 10x better than any other game in that image.
Which part? Because from what I've seen, most of the enemies look like ass and spin in place like they're doing the hokey-pokey.

Also, all three of those games look better than Grimwah, whether they're static images or in motion, which is more than Grimwah can say apparently.

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>>386790304
>When you're actually playing Grimoire, it looks literally 10x better than any other game in that image
I don't know about that, but it is probably the most interesting looking game ever created. Like, it looks really fucked up looking at it from a screenshot, I get that. But there hasn't been one point ingame where I've seen something inconsistent or weird looking and thought it was offensively bad. There is just such an onslaught of weird and crazy shit in this game I feel like I'm on another planet when I play it.

>>386790549
I'm pretty sure I've done this and I've written most of the keywords down. (I really recommend this) Can you tell me the question he asked?

>>386790549
Grief you sape

>>386790982
Hi Cleve

>>386791319
>>386791179
Fuck me, i don't got enough thal genes.

>>386767854
Look in the room for a stone face asking for Quicksilver and for teleports. And then get ready. Make sure you already got the mechano owls item.

>>386768825

Gotta love how he goes on and on about "irrational thought patterns" and then completely rejects one of the absolute best marketing tools out of nothing but irrational pride.

>>386787530
so just like you?

>>386791541
Damn nigga, wasn't that written on the wall like right next to him?

>>386791704
ITT Nintendo does the same

>>386791873

I thought we all agreed that Nintendo is a company that coasts on its past successes despite their best attempts to kill themselves.

RACIST SEXIST ANTI GAY

DO NOT PLAY GRIMOIRE TODAY!

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>>386792110

>>386768825
>Thinks his game is worth $36
>After wiping saves and adding bugs daily
I'd ask "is this nigga stupid" if it wasn't so apparent that it'd basically be a rhetorical question.

>>386783296
>Do you honestly not think 20 man years of development time isn't worth his asking price of a few buckaroos?
The amount of time spent on something doesn't determine its worth

>>386791873
Nintendo is a major video game company that is responsible for several games that many people have enjoyed for over 30 years.

Cleve is an oldfag who can't even finish a shitty wizardry clone in less than 20 years while acting like the second coming of hacker Jesus while bricking his own code daily.

No comparison really.

>>386792387
*Marxism crumbles*

>>386767628

So this game any good, or what?

>>386792387
the only reason someone would get pissy about the price of something being too high would be if they really wanted it

you don't sit around getting mad at the lady on the street who charges 100 dollars for a strawberry because you know you can get it somewhere else

>>386767628
What's a good strategy against oreworms? They just seem a little too strong for me and kick my ass in groups.

>>386792573
bard
slumber
win

>>386792507
If you're into crusty old dungeon crawlers yeah

>>386792540
>the only reason someone would get pissy about the price of something
I didn't see anyone get pissy. You ok?

>>386792540
and since he is the one who put the time into it, the energy, the idea, and thus has control over what he wants to do with his product, he chance set the price at whatever he wants it. if you want it and can't afford it, oh well. i am pretty sure you could try a demo...
...

... and that really is the end of it. you can bitch about it, but that's all it really is. bitching. the only possible reason you would be frustrated about the price not matching the value would be that you want to buy it, which suggests that it does hold value to you which seems to contradict your statement.

that, or you just have some weird autistic obsessive need for prices and values on everything in the world to match under every circumstance and it just causes you some kind of mental obsessive breakdown knowing that somewhere a strawberry costs three dollars too much

I'll go with the first option, that you want the game and can't afford it and it pisses you off that someone has the balls to charge the price they want for their own property and labor and you want them to play nice with you and set the price at what you want when you aren't the one who created and fostered the product

>>386767628
At high enough levels does berzerking just stop hitting your allies? It seems extremely good.

>>386792573
sleep them, make sure nobody does anything to awaken them, then cast high power aoe spells like level 7 fireball

Am I retarded, or there's no way to check weapon/armor stats?

>>386791870
The only writing is in the pool, but i never typed the word grief alone since i kept putting it in quotes of the writing

>>386792870
You're bitching harder than anyone man, this whole argument got started when a thal jumped on an anon for asking where to pirate it, price wasn't ever brought up ffs

>>386792976
You can, click an item so you hold it on your cursor then click on an assay icon. It'll show you the dice rolls and whatever of weapons and armour.

>>386793376
Thanks nigga.

>>386793750
No problem man.

>>386767628
Making a drow caster was the biggest mistake of my life.

>>386793974
wolfen, barrowsmith, and feyfolk got the crazy mp regen

>>386794085
I don't even understand why they suggest Drow as casters if they are so gimped.

Berserker, Warrior, Weaponsmith, Thief, Cleric, Bard, Sage and Thaumaturge.
How's it looking?

>>386786713
>Buying it in the first place
You are forever tainted.

>>386794386
If you want a really really good NPC thaumaturge at pretty much the start of the game you can recruit Rosy instead of making your own.

>Have never played a blobber or dungeon crawler.
>Buy and play Grimoire as my entry into the genre.
>Love it can't wait to delve into the older classics of the genre.

I'm happy. Why do people hate this game?

>>386794386
>warrior
replace with metalsmith since warriors cannot multiclass to them later. other than that, solid party, but you could consider replacing the thief with someone else like another damage mage, and having your bard handle lockpick/inspection. also figure out who you want to be your scout and bump their scouting skill early so they can actually detect things and raise it further via detections. raising ancient history also seems like a good idea, there are certain things you need high ancient history to read, but i think only sages can get it, and you don't gain levels super fast in this game, so you may want to dump lots of ancient history and less into casting, since sage is a support mage.

>>386794696
Thanks, but I prefer making my own.

>>386794780
>warrior
Right, then I'll swap him for another mage. What kind do you suggest?
Or do you think it's still better to keep three front-liners?

>>386782247
You "could" do that.
But you can also get a Sage of similar level to learn Read Magic, and a thief with decent robbery, and go steal the spell books from the library place.
Then cast read magic on everyone and spam the books till they learn all the spells including cure disease (and you get ONE raise dead book I think. Don't be dumb like me and teach it to the one character that can't be revived with the staff)
Rob a bunch of apples too. Infact robbing is better than buying or selling. Just get a Rhattu Thief, invest in robbery over lockpicking (the eye guys have excellent lock picking by default).

>>386794780
metalsmith gets shit hp and is hard to roll
unless you wan burrower or wolfin one

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The Steam store claims this has sexual content. Does it?

>>386795549
it has bestiality

>>386794727

Goons.

>>386795549

nope

Is there a comprehensive skill list anywhere?

Thinking about rolling a new party, what do people suggest? I wanted to have a necro, a bard a metalsmith and a sage at least. Should I recruit any of the NPCs or is that easy mode?

>>386795549
depends on what you consider sexual

>>386796004
Not until he finishes the manual.

>>386795549
It's such a thought provoking game that to sapes it overloads all of their neurons and feels like it contains sexual elements to them.

>>386796127
NPCs are all better than characters you can roll yourself to justify the fact that you're replacing one of your own. None of them have personalities so they need some kind of hook.

>>386796204
So never. I was hoping for a community-minded player.

>>386796127
NPCs are "easy mode" but it's not like this game pulls any punches.

>>386796269
Or Cleve has been fucking over his customers for so long, people are having trouble distinguishing it from S&M porn.

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>>386795859

>>386796304
There was a post in the last thread that went on about what stats actually do.

They do practically nothing.

>>386796451
>They do practically nothing.
>telling lies on the internet

>>386796127
There really isn't a good reason not to take the npcs since they all come with much better skills, attributes, and spells than what your other party members would have at the time of getting them. I believe you can change their name and portrait, though i haven't tried.

>>386794379
maybe he couldn't remember anymore

>>386767628
Does anyone know what all the different statuses do? What does diseased do? Reduce your recovery of stuff? How about the difference between insanity and confusion? What does irritation do? I hope the manual explains these things.

>>386796451
Isn't anybody screenshotting this shit

>>386796553
see
>>185585909
>>185587340
>>185629107
Stats have practically no effect on your character.

>>386796828
>deleted posts

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>>386796892
I don't know it won't link to the posts on /vg/ but here's a compilation of the posts.

You can find the original thread here

>>>/vg/185510519

Is forging weapons with a Weaponsmith good?

>>386797439
Hopefully someone ITT can clean this image up for me later but all the relevant info is there.

Stats do practically nothing.

>>386797439
Thank you man.

>>386797439
>cleve too stupid to program stats

>>386767628
*select BATTLE*
snaresnaresnaresnaresnaresnaresnaresnare

>>386798049
At this point, are you really all that surprised?

>tfw only 130 IQ
Feels bad to be not quite Neanderthal

>>386767628
The priest dude attacked me right before I killed the Samhain horror and now everyone in town is trying to kill me. Is that normal?

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>>386797439
Certain stats only affect certain classes, homie. Furthermore, why would stats be included with resistances if combat is based off dice rolls? This isn't Diablo 3. I mean the effort is admirable, but why would someone waste their time doing this and not even properly test it?

Although it would be hilarious if it wound up being true. Nice bait.

>>386783296
I'll buy it once the manual's out and the game's actually done. Even with smithing broken, it's still really fun and worth a buy. At least if Cleve doesn't comepletely fuck up somehow.

>>386798668
It's not bait actually, someone from /vg/ actually went through the effort of figuring out what each stat does, only to find out that it was mostly vestigial.

It certainly wouldn't be the first time an RPG launched with stats that didn't work though, it's just that it's another one of Cleve's fuckups that may or may not be fixed to the detriment of the game.

>>386795014
IMO keep three front liners, there are enemies with instant death attacks and if one of your two frontliners dies, you have nobody else to step up that isn't squishy

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>>386799287
No, you don't understand. They absolutely do something. He tested the stats as if it was a modern game, which it obviously is not. That is not how these stats work. We already know this much. CON is your "resistance" stat for most things by the way, but as far as I can tell it's on a separate roll than base resistance. WIL is your "resistance" stat for mental things. So for example, someone with high CON will take less disease from an attack that causes a disease than someone who has low CON. I have observed this directly while playing the game.

>>386797509

It's not implemented yet.

>>386800054
>He tested the stats as if it was a modern game
The fuck are you marketers going on about now? This is why people are hesitant to buy your game btw, Between Cleve's shoddy code and you dishonest fucks, nobody has any faith in spending their money on this game.

Can you actually prove that they do something or are you just going to dance around the issue for the next few hours? And no, this isn't tumblr, so "FEELS" does not count as proof for this discussion.

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>>386767628
Does anyone have a guide/link or pasta explaining how lockpicking works in this game?

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>The deepsink project map
How terrifying!

>>386800657
Use Knock Knock spell dummy.

>>386776029
I'm there too, I even tried sleeping in the meditation chamber darkness spots and it only gave me backstory.

I'm putting around to see if I can find the correct answer, as that is a lot of chains of different words to finish that

>>386800403
>gets told the truth
>goes off on an emotional rant
Are you a woman? Because you sure are acting like one. At least post your tits if you're going to shit up the thread. I wouldn't be surprised if stats aren't working as intended, but they are definitely working nonetheless. You're wrong buddy. It's okay to be wrong sometimes.

Has anyone made significant main quest progress once you get all the way through Samhaim?

I've been to a million places, the bestiary, skull fortress, waterport, blackspike, cathedral, skulheim, and about a dozen other places/dungeons but I don't feel like I'm making significant progress and I haven't found many critical items and of the ones I've found I've found no purpose.

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>>386800861
I want to level up my thief's lockpicking skill though.
I keep springing the trap.
So what's the trick to this shit? Is it just random, is there some kind of clue or what?
Yes I'm stupid.

>>386800957
>Dat deflection
Can't say I'm surprised but it's still disappointing.
>inb4 "that wasn't me, it was just someone who happens to agree with me."

>>386792337
he is utterly retarded

>>386801091
The boxes use your inspection or whatever, the chains use your lockpicking

>>386801091
It's random. The higher your lockpicking the less chance of failing though if you don't pick the correct combination. It gets manageable to do when you're like level 25-30 lockpicking and beyond

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>>386801165
You will be proven wrong when the manual comes out. Going to go back to playing grimwah now. Have fun shitting up the thread.

>>386772285

quality coding right there

>>386801294
>You will be proven wrong when the manual comes out.
Who's to even say that Cleve is even aware that the stats don't work? For all we know, Cleve thinks everything's working fine because he thinks that he "fixed" all the major issues.

Of course, that's even assuming the manual is even going to come out anytime soon, considering Cleve was supposed to give us some more details on Monday yet hasn't given us anything since.

>>386776029
type BUTTPLUG

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>>386792110
>the state of /nu-v/

how's that sexchange comings along guys? finished your drawing of 5 year old japanese kids yet? the entire board should be gassed

who cheatengine here

>AXE EGO
>lvl 9
>141 STR, 114 WIS, SPE 105
NPCs really are easy modo

>>386801565
Just use Zep's save editor. It's easier and he's about to add quest item functionality.

>>386801753
thanks anon didnt know that

>>386801252
>The boxes use your inspection or whatever, the chains use your lockpicking
>>386801261
>It's random.
OK, this helps a lot. Thanks anons I finally managed to open the thing.

why did the version of this game i just BOUGHT ON STEAM come with a bitcoin miner?

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>>386800957
>>386801294
>>386801543

>>386801841
Probably because Cleve forgot to remove it.

Oops

screencap it so we can send it to steam.

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>>386801793
The editor is on this page and he's about to release a better version.

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/grimoire-release-thread-massive-incline.117563/page-55

did anyone show cleve that? did he sperg out on it?
hes gonna add denuvo next.

>>386801939
>>386801565
>>386801753
Why would anyone do this? Just play on novice and turn off random encounters if it's too hard for you.

>>386802028
>hes gonna add denuvo next.
Oh lord, please let this shit happen. I'd love to see Cleve and Denuvo getting BTFO at the same time.

>>386802052
because the game is a buggy piece of shit i did not pay for and i dont have an obligation to waste time on it, just make myself god and look at the puzzles makes the game fun

>completely assblasted goonshit still sperging the fuck out
kek just got up about to fire up grimmy grim grim

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>>386801936
>be cleve
>get rich running dozens of PCs utilizing bitcoin miners in your subterranean bunker while making fun of people that buy your game

Truly livin' the life.

>>386802052
>Why would anyone do this?
Because they bought the game and are free to do whatever they want with it? Besides, at least the cheat engine allows people to test out the game and make sure that nothing's fucked with the numbers, like how stats apparently don't work right and shit.

So what's the best way to get into Wizardry these days? I tried looking for the PSX ports of 1-5, but they're not in the redump collections.

How do I get through the locked gate in the Catacombs?

>>386802240
Play Wizardry 4.

Do any of you guys know how to use the knightly catechism? I dont know wath to answer to the green face ehen he asks for the 7 virtues and i also need it to get that sword. Do i cast super identify on it? If so, where do i get it?

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>>386802173

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>>386802284

>>386802240
Start with 6

>>386802340
But what version?

>>386802386
Some people say SNES because of graphics, but personally I like the PC version because you can directly transfer your save to 7.

>>386801829
Wait I don't get it. What did you have to do to pick the lock cut the chains or click the question marks?

>>386802294
I took it to the knight in the grotto and he translated it then gave it back. For some reason, my characters still couldn't read (game said "nothing happened" when trying to use the book) it even after giving them 100 in ancient knowledge. After that, I just used Zep's editor to give me the sword because I was tired of the bullshit.

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Not related to Grimoire but has anyone played the Realms of Arkania: Star Trail remake? It came out on Steam today, not sure if its worth $30 or not

>>386802587
Fuck i dont want to cheat. Do you know the 7 virtues shit?

>>386802445
But which PC version?

>>386802657
That's clearly a game for sapes.

>>386802587
He gives it back to you unidentified, you have to re-identify it and just use the eye icon to read it. If it's bugged and keeps calling it ?book? or something while it's identified, just give it back to him and he should Super ID it and fix it.

>>386802682
Nope. Reading the translated book is supposed to tell you but for some reason it wouldn't work for me.

>>386802587
>>386802682
Use look on the book, not use. Sometimes you might need to use improved identify, and then check the item in your journal.

>>386802657
Based off >>386802781 it's most likely worth the price.

>>386802781
Your face is for sapes.

>>386802807
I did all of that and it was properly identified and everything. I even super identified it for the hell of it to see if my journal would update with the virtues but it didn't even create an entry for it.

>>386802742
DOS

>>386802852
what a fucked up shit game

>>386802657
>dwarf is a class
No

>>386802852
Alright, I used "look" and it worked, top kek. Oh, well. What's done is done and I already used the editor to give me one. I'm not going to totally break the game in order to get another one.

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Wait, why is there a dial puzzle in the DeepSink Project?
Is it the same as the last dial puzzle?

I cannot figure out how the fuck choose a target during combat.

>>386803043
It's a class because dwarves don't have any skills.

>>386767628
>>>/vg/

>>386803218
Just like you

>>386802657
Blade of destiny was really bugged, otherwise it was good.

too much nonintuitive shit in this game to enjoy it

also combat is so.... so... boring, if there was no combat in this game it would be much better

it shouldve just been a point and click cuse cleve cant parse combat difficulty

>>386803206
You don't, you choose a row based on your weapon range and they randomly attack within that row.
>>386802972
>tells me used the eye icon to read it
>didn't
>>386803107
Have fun combining shit later when it actually gets a bit difficult

>>386803206
Yeah this screwed me up for a while, especially against 2 enemy groups of the same name where I couldn't tell who was targetting what.

The top row out of the available rows when you get the choice is the one closest to you in the fight screen and so forth. It was so annoying to put an enemy to sleep only to have it be at the front of the queue of enemies and get it just woken up next turn.

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How long before Nintendo tries to sue Cleve?

Little Rosy more like Little Roastie

>>386767628
Do I needed ancient history to read encoded catheticism?

>>386804469
No, you give it to sir cofferagus

I have the mechano egg with the cosmic yolk and evrything. What do i do with it?

>>386804538
Put it back where you got it

>>386804512
I did but it just said it was identified. Not the one with the virtues. The encoded one you get masoleum. With all the crypts.

>>386804538
Combine it and put it into the machine.,

>>386803183
There is a hidden wall in Deep sink that tell you the solution. Its near the beginning of the maze. Let me know if you want the solution.

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>>386804782
I got it.
It was three bolts.

>>386804939
Good man. I actually walked around aimlessly for 2 hours looking for it. Thought I was stuck.

How do you split a stack?

>>386805119
If anyone knows how do to do this that would be awesome.

How do you revive an Aeorb?

>>386805381
Use raise dead, I'm not sure if the staff of caudecus.

Where do you view the potential damage output of a weapon?
I feel like it's right in front of my face but I'm not seeing it.

>>386803781
>You don't, you choose a row based on your weapon range and they randomly attack within that row.
So the game is fucking random for no reason.

>>386803781
Not my fault that the interface is so fucking clunky, faggot. "Using" the book or at least super identifying it should have at least created a fucking entry in your journal for the item with the virtues listed.

>>386805442
When i use the scroll it just says nothing happens

>>386805481
Click on action icon, and click on assay, take weapon to the magnifying glass. It has to be identified if it isnt to see it's damage.

>>386805503
Only within the row. If there are 3 rows the melee cannot attack the back row. Only bows/mages can hit the back row.

>>386805551
The actual spell raise dead. Also your invocation may be low so you cant invoke it. You get the real raise dead spell from the monk in crowl.

>>386805565
>take weapon to the magnifying glass.
Thanks for that. I was dragging it to the look icon and getting the description instead.

>>386805897
No problem man.

So, what else can you crush in the machine?
Or is the ore the only thing you can crush?

>>386805965
The cosmic egg as well.

>>386802742

gog version

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Necromancer spells cost so much mana what the actual fuck.

>>386768550
You forget that it had the perfect viral marketing campaign for /v/. It's run by a CWC level autist who /v/ tends to form cults around and it's a shitty game which means no one will ever like it which means /v/ doesn't have to hate it because they have to hate things everyone else likes. The only thing Cleve didn't think through is that /v/ doesn't have a lot of money.

>>386806005
I've got a jeweled egg.
Is that it?

>>386806349
No you get another egg from eyrie. After you get the key to saint georges tomb.

How do you open the door of the first temple? I have 2 keys and neither can be used.

>>386806584
Which temple?