What went wrong besides the memory cards /v/? I cannot think

>>386726657

no first party support

Its games were mostly third-party weeb shit.

Too much weeb-shit

>>386726657
>games
Literally 2 games. Killzone, which is 100/10 and Uncharted, that runs at 18 fps

>>386726685
>>386726731
>>386726778
/thread

>>386726657
Sony fucked up the marketing. First they tried to push it as "Console games on the go", which backfired with shit ports like Borderlands, and doubly so when people realized that you can't actually remote play anywhere outside your home. After that they pretty much gave up on it and left it to die, its corpse being carried along by weebshit.

>>386726657
Lackluster first party and over saturation of third party that pandered to folks who like dating sims.

no games

No games that aren't catered to weebs and waifufags.

>/v/ suddenly hates weeb shit

What happened?

>>386726657
How cheap are these things now? I'm thinking about buying one for Chaos;Child, Danganronpa V3, and also because I'm interested in getting into the Persona series.

>vitababies told me the price of the memory cards were okay.
>told me if I would not buy system just for non homebrew shit then my sale did not count
>told me that size of the card were okay and anything higher would mean piracy

How is your $300 dead coaster doing?

Sony makes shitty games. Third party games were shit.

Nintendo makes actual games people want to play on their handhelds.

micro sd adapters came out a couple months ago, you can get one for 3$

>>386727378
As long as you were smart and didn't update your vita, it is now much less dead than in the past few years.

>>386726657
>games
I can't find many games for this thing and it's hacked so I can try everything. Charitably I'd say its audience is niche, but really that just means it has nothing but budget anime shovelware.

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Consumers are retarded, cheap and greedy. The same thing happened with the Dreamcast.

>>386727185
Someone wrote, "The Vita is the best handheld ever * for anime-style games."

*the point where OP stopped reading and bought a Vita

The developer mentality of "make the basic mechanics of a game and slap some anime girls on it" killed it.

>>386727378
I'm using mine as an emulation machine while occasionally streaming PC games to it while playing in bed. Granted I got the Vita and 64GB card for $200 new so I don't feel as fucked.

>>386727726
>OP
sorry, meant the VitaHasNoGamesfags, OP doesn't seem to be one of them.

>>386726657
It was a handheld being marketed to an audience that doesn't care about handhelds, when handhelds were already on the decline.

>>386727660
>cheap and greedy.
What does this have to do with anything?

>>386727494
link to buy sd card please

>>386728920
Obviously, it was those greedy consumers' fault for not wanting to give poor Sony $100 for the privilege of saving data.

>>386729820
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-PSVita-game-card-to-micro-SD-TF-card-adapter-SD2Vita-for-PS-Vita-1000-2000/32822212947.html

>>386726657
I use it to play PS4 games in bed, but other than that there's not much point to owning one.

>>386727735
Having nothing but anime girl games was a symptom of its failure, not the cause. Only otaku were buying it, so it only got otaku games.

>>386726657
A very vocal hate for the system in the west damaged system sales.

>>386731179
Normies didn't hate it, they were apathetic towards it.

>>386726657
worst anti consumer hitler apparatus.
everything about it shat on the people who supported sony the most.

if you wanted to delete a game to make room you had to backup the whole fucking game because you couldnt just keep the save file like on ANY OTHER SYSTEM. and of course you had to do it through the stasi Sony app because they hate you.

>>386731179
If vocal hate caused poor sales, then every single console would sell terribly. That kind of stuff is way too tiny to have an impact on the scale of the tens of millions of sales.

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>vitagen fucktards paid 80$ for 32gb
>I just installed my SD adapter and put in a 128gb card for 40$

>>386731337
enjoy no 3.61 games

battery dies in the long run, not enough interesting games on launch

>>386731415
>enjoy the no games that come out now that the system is dead
that shit is only good for PSP and PS1 emulation to begin with.

the library is so fucking weak that I have to go back to MHFU.

>>386731541
agreed

Sony couldnt convince the third parties to actually deliver real games.
NO new entries from big names.

You got Final Fantasy PORT, Metal Gear solid PORT, Ninja Gaiden PORT, lost Monster Hunter, no Kingdom Hearts when they churn those out for every fucking system, no unique GTA.

Compare that to the PSP. Huge decline in effort. The Vita is so much more powerful but nobody ended up putting any actual resources into it. The average game has worse assets than PSP games.

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>>386731653
>Final Fantasy PORT
worst final fantasy besides 13, as well
>Metal Gear solid PORT
And ignoring one of the three games that was in the other versions of that collection
>Ninja Gaiden PORT
And it runs like shit until you overclock, even then it doesn't run too great
> no unique GTA.
Didn't even get a Vice City or San Andreas port, even fucking mobiles have that

>>386731337
ayo hol up
those are a thing now? I remember hearing about it being developed some time back but they were supposedly really shitty and impractical

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>>386731747
I remember vitagen recommending Ninja Gaiden to people.
I put it onto my modded Vita yesterday to give it a shot, I nearly threw up.

>>386731793
They are a thing, but you need a 3.60 firmware vita.

>>386731793
These things are actually really simple, the adaptors are completely dumb

>>386729947
Can someone explain to me how this is used?
Am dumb/inexperienced

>>386731837
put in micro sd card
put in game card slot

>>386731837
It fits into the gamecard slot. You need to have HENkaku, then you can load a plugin which automatically uses it instead of (or alongside) them memorycard.

I love my henkaku vita because i still have a huge ass psp backlog.

>>386732178
its nice because now you can slap in a bigass memory card so you dont have to move shit around all day.
and you can do that all over FTP so its mega fast and convenient.
back then I used to buy vita games but I stopped because it was absolutely no fun doing something as basic as downloading and installing games.

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>>386726657
>I cannot think of anything else that killed this system. Its screen, games, power, sound were all better than the 3ds, but it still died in the US
power is nothing if the console has not that many good games, the Jaguar and 3do were way more powerful than the competition but had no interesting games. The only reason why the ps4 is both powerful and successful os because it actually has games.

Sony killed it
The hardware was great

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>>386732427
>PS4
>actually has games

>>386732427
jaguar hardware was shit and the 3do was prohibitively expensive

>>386729947
Is there one that doesn't look awful?

>>386732489
Sure, it doesn't have that many, but the few are great
>>386732490
True, but they still lacked games

The only thing that kept me from buying it for so long was the memory cards. Got lucky and found one for sale with a 4gb card for $80. I genuinely think that if it weren't for the cards it would have been more popular.

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>>386733062
>but the few are great
The only games selling on the PS4 are fifa, GTA and CoD.

>>386733587
Persona 5, Yakuza 0, Bloodborne, Nioh and GR2. Are 5 games that made the PS4 worth buying for me.
Name 5 exclusives that are worth playing on any other system.

>>386733813
none of those games sold a significant amount. you are an extreme minority.
attributing the ps4s success to those (meh) games is stupid.

the wiiu, 3ds and vita all have more worthwhile exclusives too.

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>why'd it flop?
People don't know how to enjoy video games
>what do you mean?
If it's not spoonfed, the average gamer won't know about it
>elaborate. Vita is known to be a weeb and indie machine
Remember CoD on Vita? AssCreed? Pretty sure that's when it sold the most
>price was the real culprit for lack of sales
Maybe, but don't underestimate stupidity. See
>>386726731
>>386726831
>>386727004
>>386727460
Etc

Pic related. You have to be a jaded autist to not enjoy the majority of the games here. Not to mention the physical library is dope (not pictured) with the trifecta of Muramasa/Odin Sphere/Dragon's Crown being unique to the Vita

Great console for people who like variety

>>386733946
Do you want good games or games that sold well? Because those are different things.

Is it fully jail broken, can you pirate everything?

>>386733813
Is GR2 worth the price? I want to support it so that we might get more in the future but $40 seems high, and I'm on a budget right now.

>>386733946
What? You were talking about lack of games, i named 5 great exclusives. PS4 sold so well because Microsoft and nintendo had no games/outdated hardware and PC went full f2p-twitch-moba-survival-arena.

>>386733950
>Am I wrong and have shit taste in vidya? No, it must be everyone else who is wrong.

>>386734138
Did you like the first one? I loved the first and loved the 2nd.

>>386726685
>>386726731
>>386726778
>too much third party support is bad
i guess that means switch is a bad console.

>>386734074
only games from before this time last year

>>386733986
>>386734209
Not the original argument and you did not manage to refute that those games you claim to be such great exclusives didnt move units at all.

The PS4 has 60million sales and the games you mentioned barely broke the million. It doesnt add up.
PS4 is literally a CoD and GTA machine, those are the games that move the system.

Also bragging about five fucking games so late into the console generation is pitiful as shit.

>>386734209
>Persona 5
>Exclusive
>Great

>>386726657
You can blame Sony for killing it as hard as they did.
>Little to no marketing/advertisement
>Propriety memory cards that were/are needlessly expensive
>Launched the same year as the 3DS, but the 3DS had a price cut early on, and it took the Vita two years just for it to go down in price
>$300 for a dedicated handheld
>Sony basically dropped support for it, leaving it all on the third parties
>Persona 4 Golden was really the most worthwhile game for it
>Didn't have enough games to appeal much to non-weebs

>>386734440
>>Little to no marketing/advertisement
They marketed it as a PS4 accessory.
Also Persona is garbage.

Best handheld console ever made, and no games support.

And its still the best handheld console ever made, because having every game ready to emulate on a sexy screen on a nice piece of hardware without having to deal with nintenbro is goat

>>386733950
>YOU'D HAVE TO BE A JADED AUTIST NOT TO NOT ENJOY THE MAJORITY OF THE GAMES HERE
>A bunch of indie shit

>>386734341
>It's okay to not have first party support when Sony does it

>>386734497
Indieshit is the best the Vita has to offer desu. Hotline Miami works great and Axiom Verge is super comfy.

>died in the US

>It's still available for sale and games are still being released

>>386734341
The Vita didn't have too much third-party support, it had too little first-party support. That being said, it's still alive and well in Japan, so ironically the Vita is actually going to outlive the 3DS.

>>386734471
>>They marketed it as a PS4 accessory.
...I don't know if you're trying to defend the Vita or not.

I love my Vita!

>>386734373
Liked i said, the ps4 sold well because every other system failed. Most nomries don't even know which game is exclusive and which is not.
Exclusives get more hype and press coverage which in return sells the platform to normies. Why do you think did the xbox one fail?

>>386734613
I don't love or hate the Vita.
I'm saying that they did do a minimal amount of marketing, and that marketing was pretty bad.

Well it's kinda old now. We're beyond five and a half years since its launch.

>>386734652
So they marketed it after it was already dead, and that's supposed to help, how?

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>>386726657
>but it still died in the US.
Umm no sweetie, it's been dead worldwide for years now. Even the piece of shit that is the regular 2DS (not the 2DS XL) is almost outselling it in Japan.
Look at the top 15 games sold list. Where are the Vita games? Oh that's right, there are none. NONE.
Meanwhile the 3DS has a game on top of that list and 8 out of the 15 games on this list are 3DS games.
Vita games are garbage low quality kusoge which are available on superior platforms. 3DS games are exclusive to it and are of a higher quality

Switch – 61,933 (89,314)
PlayStation 4 – 43,862 (82,368)
New 2DS LL – 33,871 (110,963)
New 3DS LL – 22,200 (26,587)
PlayStation 4 Pro – 9,077 (10,988)
PlayStation Vita – 4,773 (4,967)
2DS – 3,740 (3,680)

1 -[3DS] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age (Square Enix, 07/29/17) – 300,714 (1,456,601)
2 -[PS4] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age (Square Enix, 07/29/17) – 200,798 (1,151,113)
3 -[NSW] Splatoon 2 (Nintendo, 07/21/17) – 74,235 (827,646)
4 -[3DS] The Great Ace Attorney 2 (Limited Edition Included) (Capcom, 08/03/17) – 69,848 (New)
5 -[PS4] Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy (SIE, 08/03/17) – 30,384 (New)
6 -[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo, 04/28/17) – 13,764 (615,633)
7 -[3DS] Layton’s Mystery Journey: Katrielle and The Millionaires’ Conspiracy (Level-5, 07/20/17) – 12,699 (108,057)
8 -[3DS] The Great Ace Attorney 1&2 Limited Edition (Capcom, 08/03/17) – 9,651 (New)
9 -[3DS] Hey! Pikmin (Nintendo, 07/13/17) – 8,493 (107,887)
10 -[NSW] Arms (Nintendo, 06/16/17) – 5,472 (189,417)
11 -[NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Limited Edition Included) (Nintendo, 03/03/17) – 5,304 (554,123)
12 -[3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Koko, Doko Nan Desu? (Nippon Columbia, 07/20/17) – 34,107 (5,197)
13 -[3DS] Pokemon Sun / Pokemon Moon (Nintendo, 11/18/16) – 4,321 (3,304,705)
14 -[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf Amiibo+ (Nintendo, 11/23/16) – 4,293 (212,998)
15 -[PS4] Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (Square Enix, 07/13/17)

>>386734636
now you're backpedaling on your original point
eat shit nigger.

>>386734650
that cannot be good for your screen

No Monster Hunter

>>386734702
>So they marketed it after it was already dead
Given that the Vita is stillborn, that's not saying much.

>>386733950
Pretty sure majority of those are on other consoles/pc as well.

>>386734592
The problem is that the third-party games are way to hardcore, even for the average western weeb.
You could sell a dragon quest or final fantasy type of game to a literal Chad. But you can't sell demon gaze and criminal girls to most weebs over here.

>>386734725
>Selling 4k
This can't be real, /v/ keeps saying it's doing well in japan

>>386733950
>Virtually everything is indie shit that can be played on a toaster tier pc
At least put in persona 4 golden or some shit.

>>386734725
How is the 3DS still outselling the Switch and PS4?

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>>386726657
> Its games were
> better

>>386734756
I don't see how they can even drag their thumb up and down on it like that. The Vita screen is fucking glue.

>>386734898
>trusting /v/ on anything
That was your first mistake friendo.

>>386734943
it has better and more games than either

>>386726657
>What went wrong besides the memory cards /v/?
I updated it past 3.60.

>>386734898
>>Sonybros keep saying it's doing well in japan
ftfy

>>386734943
DQ11 came out on 3DS and PS4. 3DS is cheaper and portable gaming is huge in japan.

>>386734898
>/v/ keeps saying
Spotted the problem.

>>386734943
most japs only play while on the was to work/school. Can't really take the switch with you and obviously cant take the ps4 with you.

I enjoyed playing a bunch of jap games. It took 2-3 years and the same games were ported to PS4 or PC where they finally got some recognition.

Only Persona 4 Golden is still being held hostage.

Is there some sort of guide to hacking your Vita? I have one on 3.60, but I don't know anything about what software to use or how to install any games.

>>386734898
It's more about the software sales. In Japan there are tons of vita exclusive VN's and dungeon crawlers that are cheap to make and don't need to sell nearly as much as for example dragon quest.

>>386735230
You want HENkaku.

>>386726657
It's not dead. It's just niche. Shit is still coming out for it. It's not like the fucking Sega 32X or the Sega Saturn, where literally everyone gave up on it.

>>386726657
99% of the games are ports and multyplats. Jewish memory cards.

>>386726657
100% the memory card. Impossible to find in stores. Way too fucking small. O owned a vita and the mem card is exactly why I didn't buy more games.

>>386734943
Switch is outselling 3DS most of the time, but it's really understocked, and 3DS has gotten a big boost from Dragon Quest's release.

>>386726657
>Display was fine when it came out but quickly became obsolete as smartphones got better and better ones
>The d-pad and the buttons are WAY too small. They feel alright when pressed but they should be bigger
>Ugly ass main menu and UI. Shouldve had the XMB and not this stupid bubble shit where you can literally count the polys of the bubbles
>No first party support after a few months
>Third party support mostly sucked ass (borderlands with like 12 fps)
>Memory cards
>Expensive games even when bought online
>No native PSP games support EVEN THOUGH you could buy game online. These games however did not scale with the display and therefore look blurry as fuck. I will never understand why Sony though that was a good idea

Apart from the buttons and the no games, I kinda like the vita concept. The backside-touchpad was a neat idea, even though it was never fully used. I should pick up my vita one day again, I havent turned it on since a few months after the release.
Can you finally pirate games?

>>386735475
I have no idea why. Every time I'm in Walmart, the Switch is in stock, and there just isn't anything worth playing on it that can't be played on other platforms.

>>386735565
I have no idea why the XMB was killed off by Sony. It was literally the best UI of the 7th gen, and to replace it with the PS4 UI is just a huge leap backwards, not to even touch on the Vita UI.

>>386735646
which is even less understandable in terms of the vita as the XMB works perfectly for both touch and dpad. And you can have fancy custom buttons with it. And look at the XMB skins the PS3 and PSP has, it's definitely customizable. It makes absolutely no sense.

>>386735885
Agreed. I understand tweaking the XMB a little bit, so that it doesn't lag so hard when you press the PS button (like it did on the PS3), but there's no reason for them to outright scrap it.

The fact that they are coming up on Update 5.0 on the PS4, and still have no plans to bring it back, is a mystery.

>>386735646
>>386735885
>>386736054
So am I the only one who always hated the XMB? Everything just hangs around in its own column instead of being readily available on screen. The Vita's UI is great in my opinion.

>>386736383
Your opinion is shit if you think those skittles look even remotely aesthetic.
I'm non of those guys you quoted btw.

>>386735565
>No native PSP games support
What? All the PSP games i played looked fantastic on the vita.

>>386726657
never owned one. I had a psp when it came out. I remember getting the first GTA game, Wayne Grtetzy hockey. I was in grade 9 at the time and no one else had one that I knew and by that time I was getting out vidgea games. Still have it. maybe now I should start collecting for it.

>>386735565
>These games however did not scale with the display and therefore look blurry as fuck. I will never understand why Sony though that was a good idea
The fuck? The Vita screens are literally twice the resolution of the PSP.

>>386736383
Yes. The Vita UI is fine for a touch screen, but on a Vita TV, that fucking UI sucks. XMB is a much cleaner UI to work with.

>>386736632
I think he means physicals.
>Buying physical PSP games
>Buying PSP games

>>386736746
The default is to do bilinear filtering, which looks like shit.
You can do nearest neighbour filtering instead, but the pixels are a little too sharp. Still looks nice in 2D games.

>>386736746
>>386736632
I bought MHF2U when the Vita came out and the game ran on the PSP resolution with 480x272 and was simply upscaled to the Vita res of 960x544, therefore it looked pixelated and blurry. Afaik it did not support the vita native resolution. Maybe they changed it for later games they ported

I like my vita, it's just showing it's age. I have to hard reboot it every couple months cause it'll just stop working from sleep mode though. That's a real pain in the dick but I mean it's just 5 minutes of rebooting and shit so it's not too bad I guess.

Memory cards were shitty, but frankly I have a 16gb card and never needed more. Besides killzone mercs I don't know of any games above 6gb, so that was enough for like 4-5 games for me. Plus I always had legend of the dragoon, suikoden 1, and kenka bancho BAR floating around, and a katamari physical cart. So 3 full sized vita digital games (Currently have P4G, ffxhd, and dragon's crown, plus a few more indie titles) is plenty. would it be nice to have everything all at once? Sure, but I have shit sitting on my card that I haven't touched in a year already. Still wanna get one of those SD adapters if they ever figure out how to not make them require the use of the game slot.

>>386726657
It was great if you liked JP games. Unfortunately it didn't really have the blockbusters 3ds had and Sonybros who are the vast majority of PS players only play codshit/uncharted.

>>386736952
They're not ports, they run natively using PSP hardware. Like I said in >>386736934 you may prefer it without the filtering.

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Who /64gb/ here? Haven't had any problems with it either.

I just enjoy buying things the legitimate way for my collection even if it goes to waste at some point. At least I'm not a piratefag.
Suck it poorfags.

>>386737052
Alright, but what's the point? It was going to be obvious that people who bought the Vita were going to want to play PSP games on that thing, so why not make it possible to run PSP games on vita-native resolution on the Vita? PS3 could do it, why not the vita?

>>386737391
PS3 was emulating, Vita is not powerful enough to emulate.

>>386737418
Sure. It still put me off the Vita. The PSP had so many games, so many GOOD games, being able to play them on an updated version of the PSP would've been great. Bummer.

>>386737579
Backwards compatibility rarely comes with performance improvements. Only time I'm aware of is the PS2, where you can add texture filtering to PS1 games.

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>>386726657
>Its screen, games, power, sound were all better than the 3ds,
>games
>better than the 3ds

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>>386737336
64GB isn't enough. Also waiting on a proper dumping tool for physical games. Mai is always hit or miss and Vitamin is abandon ware.

>>386738024
This, you need 128GB at least.

>>386727318
the vita version of danganronpa V3 is a very ugly version of a game that looks beautiful on other platforms
all the vita ports of sciADV games are good
for persona it only has two exclusives, and P5 is unlikely to see a vita port

Too expensive, I mean not for what you got of course but the LED racked up the price and most consumers wouldn't really care if it was a regular LCD.

Wrong place at the wrong time. Smartphone gaming was just becoming a major thing, this hurt the 3DS too, but unlike Sony Nintendo actually believed in it and pushed through.

Poorly optimized games like Borderlands 2 and Uncharted with terrible framerates, though I don't think this was a major part of it since console gamers generally are very forgiving of this.

>>386738357
borderlands 2 wasn't out on vita till like 2014 long after everyone at sony stopped paying for marketing, I think it was like 85% complete and theyj ust threw it out cause there's no fucking polish, and it's pretty inexcusable for such a low framerate with how it looks, it compares to xeodrifter and mutant mudds in terms of graphics and still runs like hot ass.

uncharted runs fine too, I mean, fine for the vita, it's stable even if it's not at 30fps. Could be better though I agree, especially as a launch title, they fucked it up bad. And the price isn't really... I mean, wasn't it $300 for 3G (and 250 for wifi) and the original 3DS was $250? Not that much more expensive at all. I don't think that's a reason as to why it failed. I think it was the lack of a strong launch lineup. Nintendo always goes full force on their portable devices and I think we knew LBW was coming out from almost day 1, right? That was huge for moving systems early on. Sony, in comparison, had a few more third party devs on board, but basically no first party support. They ignored the crossplay with PS3, shit out some unpolished ports of the PS2 collections, and called it a day, then got surprised when the system tanked because the best game on the system that wasn't a port or redux was a killzone game that still struggled to get a full 16 player match a week after launch (though since PS+ release I haven't ever had trouble which is nice. Love that game.)

Vita's just a sad story of mismanagement to the nth degree.

>>386734725
why doesn't having the word sweetie in your post autoban yet?

>>386735230
install henkaku for baseline CFW, then install ensou to make it persistent when you restart
then you want vitashell, which is an updated and less crap version of molecularshell
maidumptool is for installing and dumping vita games, adrenaline is for pirating PSP games (but requires you already signed into your vita and downloaded a PSP game)

>>386736934
the real crime is that vita TVs have no filtering options and nigh useless resolution options, so any game you play on them will look crummy and blurry compared to a vita

>>386737336
>only have 8GB memory card
>buy a bunch of games both physical and digital across multiple accounts
>dump them all with maidump
>install on 128GB flash drive on vita TV
>i have twice as much storage as you for less than half the price
but i'm poor because i make better decisions than you amirite?