ZeRo is a fucking joke "muh my Bayonetta is broken I was

Smash 4 is actually not bad. It's just Scarflard who's fucking shit.

playing smash competitively is a joke, you autist

>>386693663
This

>>386693663
/thread

>>386693547
What do you expect from a smug faggot who picks high tier characters to be anti fun? He really shouldn't even be complaining the match was pretty even and I remember people thinking he was going to win at some point dude who was maining Bayo just went ham on him at the last minute. Shit happens and he should stop being such a fucking faggot about it I can't believe he made a video about this he's still fucking butthurt lmao.
>tfw remember seeing his face when he got second place

>>386693663
I agree with you but melee actually is probably one of the most technical fighting games of all time competitively and requires the same or even more APM that Starcraft

>>386693547
Literally who.

>>386694156
And? That doesn't somehow make it 'deep' or good.

>>386694256
I agree with your sentiment but disagree with saying Melee isn't good, it's extremely fun to watch
I also enjoy playing and watching Smash 4, as long as Dabuz isn't playing

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>>386693547
>Playing videogames competitively
>Taking a hobby THAT seriously to get sponsored by some corporation that will toss you aside

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>>386694156
>melee actually is probably one of the most technical fighting games of all time

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>>386694346
Good on you.
I played smash 4 for about a year before dropping it entirely.
The online community is fucking cancerous, and rare chance you do get a good match the others are tier whores, flowchart fags and fags that will try to stall as long as possible.

>inb4 but just about every multiplayer game has someone that does that!
I know, but for some reason, smash 4 is easily the worst

I just realized that I don't want to be a virgin anymore.

>>386694670
Fuck me then big boy ;^)

>>386694256
Melee has a ton of depth though

>>386693663
This.

>>386694670
Virgin isn't nearly as important as finding a long-term relationship without sex.

>>386694830
wait what why no sex

>>386694579
>I played smash 4 for about a year before dropping it entirely.
Same. I wanted to like it because it easily has the best roster, but the gameplay is fucking stale. Brawl was at least fun in casual play. Not this shit with its awful stages & items. Once you've stripped all of the nuisances Sakurai added it's just a bunch of turtling garbage.

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in the video he says that bayonetta shouldn't be banned though

>>386693663
Playing any game competitively is a joke.

>>386694975
Because sex too early becomes a liability. Sex is something that has incredibly high emotional profundity. That emotional peak should only be reached once you and the partner know you'll be together forever (or a very, very long time).

>>386694156
party game*

>>386693663
/thread

>>386693547
So wait, why are you blaming the game if it's the playet being shit?

>>386693547
>Banning characters in a party game

>>386695056
>Lose Finals because of Bayonetta
>Delete your Twitter account like a baby
>Make a video called Should Bayonetta Be Banned?
>Even thinking for a moment that people are going to watch the video and not call him a salty faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lE-tFiWx58

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>Scarflard times out people at the smash invitational
>Sees no shame in it
>Gets fairly beaten by a bayonetta at a tournament
>Throws tantrum, smashes control in bathroom and deletes his twitter
>Weeks later makes video about how she should be banned.

Even brawl was better than tr4sh

>>386693547
Post the video where he gets btfo by this bayo.

>>386695305
I don't use this term lightly, but ZeRo really is a textbook manchild.

>>386695339
Didn't he use the ai assist to win a match? Or was that a different autist

>>386695241
>Wah wah smash isn't a fighting game it's a PARTY GAME

why are people such faggots about this?

>>386694830
>>386694975
>>386695123
Basically if you hit that emotional high too early on, you'll both feel as if you rushed it because it's so emotionally gratifying after not earning it.

If it happens after many months, a year, years, etc. then it acts as a culmination.

>>386695657
But Smash is a party game

>>386693547
He literally says she's not broken and should not be banned.

>>386695827
Maybe is too much for your brain but.
Ready?
It can be both.

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>>386693547
>fighting game
>Smash

>>386696012
Taking a game like Smash seriously is full blown autism.

>>386695796
Have you lived that? Or Are are just another virgin giving relationship advice out of the ass? This whole "fuck at the right time" sounds like autism

>>386693547
DLC characters should be banned in general

>>386695827
So is street fighter

>>386694770
lol

>Banning a character in a fighting game
>Ever
Not even part of FGC or smash autism but isnt the point of the whole game to adapt?

>>386696164
...and? No argument there. Killer Instinct blows SFV out of the water.

>>386696337
Killer instinct is also a party game

>>386696540
Every fighting game is a party game

>>386696613
Yea

>>386696174
wow, great rebuttal

totally shut him down, anon

>>386696828
>responding to someone who doesn't think melee has depth
Don't be an idiot

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>>386693547
Competitive Mario Party 2 when?

>>386693547
>People being tier fags
>Usually always play G&W for cheeky [9] or bucket OHKO's
>People getting salty and keep changing there name to NO SKILL.

Its funny to make babies cry on there vidyagame controllers.

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>>386693547
He said bayo shouldn't be banned, though.

>>386696230
yeah evo should have a mugen tourney to see who can adapt the best

>>386695305
>Decide to look at commes out of morbid curiosity
>All those people sucking Zero's dick

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>>386694537
https://youtu.be/cfYXxqvd-Mg
This shit is soothing as fuck.

>That artfriend anon that got harassed by Scarflard and his possy

>>386695339
Brawl had advanced techniques, but no, it was not better than Smash. Watching a few compilation videos on Brawl does not represent the overall thing.
Meta Knight and Ice Climbers completely fucked the game. You don't even know. It is unmatched so far.

>>386694156
Underrated bait. 3 you's ain't bad, but you deserved more for this one.

>>386697798
He's not wrong. He said one of the most technical, not THE most technical.

>>386697542
>Things that didn't happen

>>386693663
this, didn't the creator himself said it is a party game? Also brawl was fun as hell, hope i could play 4

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>>386698689
>didn't the creator himself said it is a party game

>>386695413
what abut his behavior makes him a manchild maybe a poor sport sometimes but i dont know about manchild

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>>386698689
>>386698750
Sakurai says a lot of contradicting things.

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>>386693663
a meme that went too far

>>386695305
It annoys me when they call him scarf lord.

Guy absolutely dominates the game since it fucking released. Then he finally gets defeated and calls for banning the character that beat him? What a fucking joke.

>>386698891
Playing Smash, for one. Secondly, he plays smash competitively.

He also smells really, really bad.

>>386693663
I'm with you. Playing smash competitively made me realize it.

>>386694156
>t. Melee fag

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>>386695657
because people who think smash is for competitive play are pic related

>>386700114
but you knew these things before you saw the video why did the video suddenly make you decide this?

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>>386693663

>>386696230
Sometimes the only way to adapt to a strategy is to use the same strategy.
Also actual sports ban SO MUCH shit all the time.

Competitively Melee has been around for over a decade and people are still upset it exists. Nothing, absolutely nothing is stopping you from playing casually and people enjoying the game at a higher skill level doesn't affect you in any way.
Now, you might say something like
>But, I have a tourneyfag friend who insist we only play Fox on FD
Get better friends if this is the case.

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>>386698996
I don't see the problem at all, you are saying that the statements he said about fighting games and party-game are mutually exclusive, when they are actually not, i'm pretty sure he wanted to create a brand new innovative fighting game, but didn't have in mind competitve high-level play and people finding exploits, excluding maps, items, banning stuff and so on. In my opinion they nailed it with Brawl, items and different maps are fun as hell, Smash shouldn't be taken too seriously as if it were KoF for example

>>386693649
Smash 4 is painfully boring to watch competitively

>>386700813
>Also actual sports ban SO MUCH shit all the time.

that's the equivalent of balancing patches, not players autism.

>>386700813
>Basketball banned goal tending because of one lanky fuck who would stand beneath the basket and swat all the manlet throws away
>Meleefags doesn't ban wobbling, despite scrubs thinking it's broken and ruins the game
Kind of funny when you think of it.

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>>386694346
Same here, anon. I also hate watching ZeRo and root against him every time.
The video OP posted shows why: he's a whiny faggot who complains every time he loses.

>>386700985
>In my opinion they nailed it with Brawl, items and different maps are fun as hell
That's a perfectly fine opinion. I think they nailed it with Melee.
>Smash shouldn't be taken too seriously as if it were KoF for example
This doesn't make sense though. It obviously works as a competitive game, otherwise it would have been dead. But, it's not. It's lived on for years and years and people are enjoying it. Why shouldn't it be played competitively when people find it fun?
There are options to turn the items off and only play on certain stages. This was put in the game for a reason as well. Are you going to argue this wasn't developer intended? I mean, why include those options if they didn't want people to use them?

>>386700813
>Sometimes the only way to adapt to a strategy is to use the same strategy.
What's wrong with this? Every game eventually reaches that point.
All that matters is once you reach this level, that the degree of skill required in its execution still provides a large enough gap between players.

>>386695305
idk zeros a huge faggot but this video doesn't really show it. Alot of his losses are just him fucking up hard and instead of being a bitch about it he is smiling when the entire crowd is pushing him out of the way to jerk off the winner. I would be way saltier if this bullshit happened everytime I messed up with the pressure everyone put on him.

>not playing Melee

Zero is a fucking pansy

>>386701429
His one time-out loss in Brawl shows how much of a faggot he is.

>>386701284
>This doesn't make sense though. It obviously works as a competitive game
You are completely right about that, my point wasn't that Melee and Smash in general is bad or anything and shouldn't be played competitively, just stating that people make a fuss, complain and discuss about stuff in those games as if it was actually designed to be competitive, when it wasn't, Brawl is considered an awful game for that matter, i have no problem at all with Melee being competitive because as you said it just works there's not even need for proof.

>Dominate the game for 2 years
>Don't lose a single tournament
>Lose out on the biggest tourney of the year due to sloppy play
>Get so butthurt you throw your controller
>Delete your twitter afterwards
In all honesty, a lot of players from various games beat themselves up, smash their fish on a table and rant about losing on twitter and whatnot, but this guy took it pretty far.
I can't really think of an instance where a top player got so salty.

>>386701776
>Brawl is considered an awful game for that matter
Brawl is only considered awful for competitive play, mainly due to tripping and even more busted imbalance than Melee. It being slower and more defensive are irrelevant arguments. It's really the balance that screwed it over.
Still a great game to play casually. Only thing is, so is Melee. I just don't see a reason to play Brawl when Melee provides the same thing and more. Guess it boils down to roster, stages and items.

>>386701337
It makes the game boring to play and watch. Imagine a roster of over 30 unique and interesting characters each with over 20 unique moves and every game is a mirror match of the best character using only his 3 best moves. There's no variety, no excitement, nothing unexpected, just "play this or lose". Most games aren't designed around this, so when it happens, it sucks.

>>386701972
I would be interesting to see a game that has developed its meta for so long that it ends up here. The only one I can think of that comes close is ST. My god, some of the MUs in that game were horrible to watch. It's literally just spamming one move, locking the opponent into either tanking hits or jumping in, which can easily be countered.

>>386701337
>What's wrong with this? Every game eventually reaches that point.
Different poster, but not really. Not to the extent where it becomes "Use this character or lose most matches", which is the issue at hand. It also creates a stale metgame for both viewers and, more importantly, players. Attendance drops and the game slowly dies out before it would have otherwise. Most games have a clear best but they aren't typically dominating to the extent of killing a game.

>>386701972
But it's an inevitability with any game.
Also you're completely ignoring the player skill and execution aspect. Games are player vs player, not character vs character.

>>386702194
https://youtu.be/yuIIHSY6zzI
Here's an example of high level SFII play.

>>386702217
Actually, once a game progresses to the point where player skill simply hits a plateau, picking anyone but the best character will cause you to lose the vast majority of your matches. That's what the actual goal of balance patches is, not to create actual, perfect balance, just to shake it up regularly enough to never let a game reach this point.

>>386693663
BODIED

>>386695119
This anon gets it.

>>386702368
>character considered particularly unfun to play against to the point where even pros will consider you a jackass for picking him
He's just the one negative example in that game. O.Sagat does not represent ST's meta.

>>386701796
This. The salt from deleting his Twitter was ridiculous.

>>386695119
When did /v/ become such casualfags?

>>386702574
It was just an example of how bad things can get is all. I know ST isn't like this at all.

>>386693547
ZeRo bitching about banning a character when he won matches with time outs

>>386701796
>>386702595
Are there screenshots of the tweets/footage of the controller throw? I guess I completely missed this.

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>>386693547
>muh my

>>386702241
>But it's an inevitability with any game.
Any poorly balanced game.
>you're completely ignoring the player skill and execution aspect.
It doesn't matter how skilled you are, losing to the same thing and winning the same way over and over and over again gets old real quick.
>Games are player vs player, not character vs character.
Not entirely. The mechanical matchup between two characters raises or lowers the skill needed to win. Sometime the gap is so large that the effort it takes to be good with a trash character would make you amazing if you invested that into a good one.

>>386702708
This. It's a complete joke. Nothing will compare to Brawl MK in terms of broken balance in Smash. Anyone complaining about Melee Fox or Smash 4 Diddy, or Bayonetta or whatever really should go back and check out some older Brawl tourneys' top 8.

>>386702241
It's not though. A good game has tiers that are close enough together where there can be a clear best character without being overly dominant. Ignoring matchups is straight up retarded. Even the best players in the world will switch characters to avoid a bad matchup. You could be the most skilled and technical player out there, but if you play a shit character that loses 3-7 to most of the cast you won't get results that reflect your skill. A character that ignores matchups altogether is actually what kills a games balance.

Dose anyone have some of the absolute worst Smash games ever played?
https://youtu.be/728pggTHsDw?t=21m10s
Everyone knows this by now, but I was looking specifically for a certain Brawl match. I think there was a Donkey Kong player ledge camping more or less the entire game. Can't find it though.

>>386693663
this

>>386703709
https://youtu.be/aU7G-A4D4nA
This is another horrible set. That Kongo Jungle match was just awful.

>>386695796
You sound like a pussy ass nigga, get yo bullshit outta here

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So did you guys actually watch the video or did you just read the title and go straight to bitching about Zero?

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>>386693663
This is true for brawl or 4. Melee is actually a good competitive game with a diverse meta.

>>386697451
Youtube comments really are a mistake, aren't they? I guess I learned that literally anyone can have a fanbase.

>>386704103
[Leffs]

>>386704049
and you sound like a wigger who needs to fuck off to twitter retard

>>386695796
hahahahaha

>>386702728
>>386701796

He didn't actually throw his controller, people don't like Zero so they just make shit up on the internet, say it, people don't fact check it so it gets repeated and spreads.

>>386704235
lmaoing @ your faggot ass, fuck off to 9gag pussy boy

>>386704101
nobody here actually cares enough to watch the video
they just use contentious topics like this to vent their own personal frustrations without consequence

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>>386700985
w-what are you doing Urien?

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Play Melee.

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>>386704330
Fuck off Zero.

>>386706969
Play Guilty Gear

>>386704101
If someone makes a shitty clickbait title like that they should suffer the repercussions of people taking it at face value. He could'e titled it "my opinion on bayo and her place in competitve smash" or something but instead chooses a lazy title to generate more clicks. Futhermore, I'm not supporting his channel with my view count, that's like watching a MatPat video just to say he's a fucking idiot in the comments, he still gets my view (read: revenue) at the end of the day, fuck that.