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Does your character "looking like you" matter to you

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Does your character "looking like you" matter to you in a game? Does it influence your buying decision?
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Only mouthbreathers associate themselves with characters
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>>386670253
>the cast for the new predator movie
looks diverse but still manly as fuck
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>>386670253
Please tell me that this is a faceapp-like thing that I can get access to
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>>386670447
fpbp
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No, I don't really like roleplay. When I play games I view the character as if I were reading a book or watching a movie.
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WE
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>>386670637
FIGHT
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No,
No


I don't care how the protagonist looks like relative to me, just to the story or game play.

For example, I hate how Sora looks like in kingdom hearts, his anime aesthetic looks dumb with the Disney background.

Another example is femshep in Mass effect, a girl doesn't suit the role of Shepherd.
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Yeah. I don't buy the game unless the hero is a white male or female.

You should be able to talk about politics in vidya without hamhanding the characters.
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>>386670253
colour washing characters make my skin crawl.
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Nope. As long as it is not a woman, I'm OK with whatever he looks like.
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>>386670253
I can't self-insert. Nor can anyone else.
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>>386670818
I can.
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>>386670253
Is that Mike Haggar on the bottom right? I want a new 3D Final Fight.
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>>386670506
It's the power of autism anon
You either have it or not
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>>386670253
No.
No.

I'd rather something that matches the setting then caters to me in a poor way. I mean, imagine if CJ was white.
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>>386670253
If it's a preset character I couldn't give any less of a shit.
If there's a character creator I'll make him look roughly like me (can't be arsed to get into the intricacies of character creators) or make him look absurd.
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Not really. They could be white, black asian...cop?...pornstar? whatever bottom right is supposed to be.

I'm not trying to self insert as the guy i'm playing as unless it's a game with a character creator where that's the point.
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>>386670851
How? It's literally not you literally, therefore, not self-inserting.
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>>386670253
Someone shoop those as difficulty settings
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>>386670253

I don't mind playing as a nigger, in fact i loved it in SA.

I don't enjoy playing as a character that is a Garry stue, regardless of the race.
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>>386670253
Nope.
Self-insert faggots should kill themselves honestly.
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>>386670253
Nope, only has to be a cute anime girl
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>>386670506
>faceapp-like thing

It literally is faceapp you dolt
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Absolutely not. I hate that kind of logic to be honest, it kills any chances at weird or interesting set-ups. If everybody absolutely needed to relate or look like the protagonist, we'd never have gotten games like Destroy all Humans, Rampage, Ecco, or anything like that.
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>>386670253
Nope
Nope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdDoAKrKUYM
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>>386670253
Nope.
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>>386670998
This. No waifu, no buy.
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>>386670253

Not one iota.
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>>386670253
Depends if its a role playing game or a straight story line.
I have no problem playing someone through a story written for him. But if you make the decision its nice to make a character that looks the act.

Oh and if the game is 100% style and gameplay, meaning the story is irrelevant, then i think its more important then ever that the character fits the theme.
Good examples of this are hotline miami, meatboy or resident evil 4.
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>>386670253
Depends if it's a game with premade characters or not. Looking like myself isn't necessary, since it wouldn't fit most of character roles out there, but i sure as hell don't enjoy playing as ugly fucks or generic mooks.
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>>386671109
haha ha ha! that's a greek letter! you must be really smart hahahaha!! h
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>>386670703
What a retarded post. There have been tons of games with non-white characters where race wasn't even brought up once. Mirror's Edge for example. The character is simply an asian woman.

Your logic becomes shit when you begin immediately equating "non-white character" to "REEEEE SJW POLITICS"
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>>386670884
If the game is ethnically charged then it shouldn't matter if the protagonist is white or black. This is what I mean, you should be able to talk about politics without being clumsy in vidya.
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I don't even want my character the be the same species as me
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>>386670253
No, actually the less it looks like me the better. Video games are my escape from my horrible real life and if the main character looks like me it brings me back to my hellish reality.
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no and I legitimatley want more "ugly" charakters

I think the "ugliest" charakters I played where frank west and max payne in the third parts , but those guys were still hot.
I think gta dose some nice and ugly dudes even with a bad dress sense.

give me fat guy or something.
I'd love to play matty matheson in gta 6.
I also really wouldn't mind playing a black guy some time.

it this honestly a no go for you guys.

fuck I'd play a retarded woman , make her dumbness a gameplay mechanic, idk
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I identify as skeleton and therefore I can associate with any character. Somewhat.
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>>386671242

I'm really not.
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Nope, actually the more different the better. I like taking the perspective of someone/something else just to try/feel something different or interesting.

The best games are the ones where you aren't even human in terms of the character you control, for me at least.
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>>386670253
I'm fine playing as anything as long as it's not a manlet.
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>>386670701
>I don't care how the protagonist looks
>as long as they're a masculine white male
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>>386671383
Max Payne is handsome
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>>386671309
This.

Humans a shit
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Custom characters, or non-human are the best.
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>>386671463
Bully was a great game faggot
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>>386670253
No because I am not a faggot.
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>>386671486

yeah tots, but he's pretty fucked up when he goes full shaved head and wifebeater mode.
+ hes atleast got a belly
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I'd probably avoid it if it actually looked like me, not just sharing the same skin color.
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I can't remember the last time I bothered making a lookalike character.

If you need to self insert into every game, then you must be very unfulfilled with your life.

Whether or not a character looks like me has never even factored into my decision making process.
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>>386671383
Niko from GTA IV is ugly as sin.
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if i can self insert i will; if not, i wont

i may be autistic but i like playing with characters that resemble myself, but will still play as normal with any kind of character
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>>386671649

I loved every second of niko.
I also hated how all of my friends tried to dress him in nice suits and shit.

I allways made sure he looked nice and shitty
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What about history based games?
Fantasy realms are just that, anything could happen because.... fantasy.
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>>386671571
My boy Jimmy were big where it counts, in the balls!
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I try to make my charcaters not look like me.
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>>386671814
you're making them attractive, then
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Hey anon, please buy my game
Koop asseblief my speletjie, my vriend
내 게임을 사주세요, 내 친구
कृपया मेरा गेम खरीदें, मेरे दोस्त
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>>386670253
Yes, characters looking like me is very important
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>>386670253
i prefer white characters because i can relate to them more.
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>>386671483
(You)
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>>386670447
What made you think that was an acceptable way to talk about PoC?
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>>386671881
How is that possible unless your game takes place in the modern day West? What about a white astronaut in the year 2350 is more relatable to you than a Vietnamese astronaut?
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>>386671028
I don't remember being able to faceapp myself black, unless that's a new feature
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>>386671863
would you happen to reside in L O N D O N?
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>>386672060
New update
It's pretty fucking impressive
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>>386672035
white mannerisms and subtle behavioral quirks that I am more comfortable hearing.
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>>386670253
they never do, so i'll just pick whoever has the biggest black beard
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>>386670253
No, could not give less of a shit. I enjoy both, Tomb Raider and Uncharted games.
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>>386672142
>white mannerisms and subtle behavioral quirks
The fuck are you talking about.
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>>386671858
Asian and Indian Todd are fucking amazing
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I don't buy games with niggers in them. I tried to play masquarade and found out that one clan is for literal niggers so I changed characters
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>>386670253
>Does your character "looking like you" matter to you in a game?
Not at all. Even when they give me a character creator I never try to "recreate" myself with it.

>Does it influence your buying decision?
Sometimes it does. Sometimes I buy the game because of the interesting story. Sometimes because I think the gameplay ideas in it are unique and not necessarily good. Sometimes I buy it because I like the aesthetics etc. Lots of things influence my buying decisions including character designs.
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>>386671729
I hate this philosophy with a burning passion
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>>386672224
different races have different ways of communicating, and different senses of humor, and sub conscious hostilities towards other races that we inherited from our ancestors.
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>>386671729
>"we love [them] but they are [...] not the emotional connection"
>people can't emotionally connect to non-main characters
>loving a character isn't an emotional connection
What a fuckwit
This guy just loves to talk without having any idea what he's talking about
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No, but I'd like there to be more representation of people like me outside of stereotypes; in addition, i'd like what representation exists to at least look and sound accurate

i'm arab
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>Todd Howard
>melting beat poet
>sleeping with eyes open
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>>386671729
Fucking retard.
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>>386671383
I've had this idea for a game where you play a leper for a while
Basically just skulking around in the background of a generic medieval city trying not to attract attention, taking abuse from everyone you interact with, initially scraping by by busting your ass for scraps of bread, sleeping in stables, avoiding public places because kids throw rocks at you
Then slowly taking over the local underground, starting by just muscling into some small scale drug lord and taking over a single shitty neighborhood and expanding, ruthlessly returning the cruelty the world dealt to you until you're essentially ruler of the city, able to walk down the streets in broad daylight and have all the peasants that used to abuse you cower from your path.

Its not a particularly original story, but videogames never really touch this kind of idea. There's always noise being made about diversity, but all anyone ever talks about is what color the characters are. That doesn't really matter, no one actually cares what color the generic protagonist is if they act like every other generic protagonist. If you actually care about representation in gaming, you should be pushing for diversity in stories and from there actual character diversity will develop naturally and more meaningfully.
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>>386671691
How do you look?
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>>386672376
Hideous Kojima
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>>386672323
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>>386672142
you can hear behavioral quirks? impressive
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>>386672272
Thats a boy isn't it?
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>>386670253
Nope.

Good character design should always come before the 'needs' of representation-fags
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The fact that you all get triggered to death every time a character in a game isn't white proves that it does matter. Quite a bit apparently.
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>>386670447
This, except I actually mean it. I remember when /v/irgins would spout this mantra against women who wanted to play women characters but as soon as nonwhite male characters became common peopled freaked the fuck out to the max.
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>>386672376
>Samuel Kojima
Did you like it mothafucka?
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>>386672436
Nice.
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>>386672465
Does it matter?
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>>386670253
I want Indian BJ to be my dad
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Get that butt evicted
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>>386672472
>Good character design should always come before the 'needs' of representation-fags
While I agree with this, the problem is that any non-white character is immediately viewed as SJW propaganda by half the people on this board.
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i don't know, but i hope every main character in every major game from now on is black just because of how much it makes /v/ want to kill themselves
actually, i guess /v/ wouldnt cry so much if it actually didnt matter to them
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Okami is a game where you play as a Japanese albino female wolf god. I am none of those, and I love the game.
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>>386671187
The lack of playable skeletons in vidya today is fucking criminal
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>>386672659
>female
>god

Excuse me
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>>386671729
This is the kind of world-view which leads to psychotic tumblr fandoms and shippers who are pathologically unable to distinguish between fantasy and reality.
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Nope, I always try and pick characters that are so far removed from normal humans that the concept of beauty becomes personal taste. Skeletons, lizardmen, fucked up aliens, you name it. I hate playing regular humans more than anything.
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>>386670253
I've played varying RPGs as well as tabletop games where you are sometimes forced to play as character who are a different race, sex, or even species than you, and I'm still able to insert as my character.

People who can't self-insert as their character solely based on their appearance rather than personality and actual character are just people who don't play games very often.
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>>386672627
>the problem is that any non-white character is immediately viewed as SJW propaganda by half the people on this board.
This is true and is stupid, but in complete fairness, the way that E3 was handled made it pretty clear what the agenda was.
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I most frequently create characters that look nothing like me
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>>386672703
Say wat?
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>>386672630
Relax buddy 1/2 this thread is in defense of not playing as a character you can "relate" to.

It's almost as if there are different people who post here, huh?
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>>386671383
Whenever I have access to a character creator I always make the fattest, dumpiest guy I can. Preferably with a pedo-stache
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>>386672539
no, I just want to know where she(male) is from
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>>386672323
THAT'S RACIST!!!
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>>386672627
While this is true, it is at least in part a reaction to most non-white characters actually being sjw propaganda
No one dislikes CJ
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>>386670253
>Does your character "looking like you" matter to you in a game?
Gosh no.
Belivability of a character is more important than me being able to related on a physical level.
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>>386670253
No it really doesn't, and I question the fragile psyche somebody must have to care about that shit to the point where they can't play a game unless they can put their avatar in there.
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>>386672425
He looks like BJ of course.
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>>386672757
UNGGGGHHH
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>>386670253
if the character looks just like me then that's a plus,otherwise it can look like shit that it doesn't matter
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>>386670253
the lighting makes the top right one look like he is in blackface
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>>386672795
He's the most famous of Charlemagne's paladins, Astolfo.
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>>386672692
Just another month to go before DOS2, anon.
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>>386670253
not really since I prefer games where the PC is established as their own person instead of a self-insert

You can still be immersed in games even if the MC isn't named after you
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>>386670253
How much better would TNO have been if Blaz was Freddy Mercury?

I mean it would still be shit, but how much less shitty?
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>Does your character "looking like you" matter to you in a game?
Yes.
>Does it influence your buying decision?
Yes.

The exception to this are females and non-humans. If I play as a male I'd like to be able to relate at least a little bit.
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At this point yes as im concerned them being who they are may just be the product of politics.

I cant get behind an experience i feel is political propaganda.

This doesnt stand for japanese shit or countries that produce games with the protagonist being that countrys majority ethnic group.
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>>386670447
fpbp
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>>386673105
>Get up Freddy this isn't even the right concentration camp
Yeah it would be pretty funny
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>>386673106
The biggest problem is not that anon, is the lack of options.
If i want to be a male, i want the option, if iwant to be a tranny in a wheelchair, i would like the option too, but that means development costs, and for the jew overlords, that is bad news, so they aply the lowest commond denominator.
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>>386672323
I'm not convinced you've held a conversation with another human being in person let alone a person of a different race
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>>386671747
Are you that ugly that you have a hobo fetish or something? Trying to feel better by playing trash fuckers?
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>>386672720
I need more playable orcs, lizards, and goblins.
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>>386672352 here

>>386672743
I mean, I do the same - my tabletop characters run the gamut (although I haven't played a female character out of fear of doing it wrong) - but when there's no representation of a certain race or gender in a certain role, it raises some questions. Like if your GM required all characters to be white, for example.
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>>386670253
Of course I want my character to be a cute little girl like me.
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>>386673245
>At this point yes as im concerned them being who they are may just be the product of politics.
sad if true
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>>386670447
/thread
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>>386673438
>No customizable MC means jew overlords

What
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>>386673507
>Like if your GM required all characters to be white, for example
That's never happened to me, but I'd assume there'd be a story reason.
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>>386673478
Fuck off, fleshy. This is bone town.
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>>386670253
If anything I like the ability to play as unfamiliar things or whatever I want.

The whole claim that "diversity" is the opposite of "bald space marine" when it's actually more of the same relation-logic but now with skewed demographical-interpretations due to tumblrtards just pisses me off equally as much.
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I don't even care if I'm being fed politics or not
I just want a good character with non-dogshit dialogue
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>>386673573
Asides from development costs, is there any other reason for the lack of options in this regard?
Dont tell me:
>because it will break the immersive story we made
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>>386673534
Yeah. I played the fuck out of gta san andreas and other games without a white protagonist and will still play those. But for modern titles its solely a i dont want to invest myself in an experience that may just turn out to be propaganda.

Takes away from thw raw human element.
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I want the character to look like what I wish I looked like
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>>386673638

Right, that's the point - there better be a good explanation for it, and catering to the racist whims of the audience isn't a good explanation.
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>>386672553
wow
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>>386670253

I don't care at all since I can't relate to a space marine shooting aliens in the first place
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>>386673716
I mean you're sad, son. Sad as fuck.

How the fuck is it even propaganda if it doesn't make a difference?
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>>386670253
As long as I actually like the character and he or she fits the story/setting then I don't really care, if it's shit then it's shit regardless of who it looks like. Options are welcome for sure though if it's available, sometimes I want to play as a brick shithouse, sometimes I want to play as a cute girl.
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>>386673438
Custom characters only really matter in RPGs. They certainly don't matter in FPS or Action games.
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>>386670447
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>>386673820
Make this xeno a pretorian.
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>>386673645
>The whole claim that "diversity" is the opposite of "bald space marine" when it's actually more of the same relation-logic but now with skewed demographical-interpretations due to tumblrtards just pisses me off equally as much.
The fuck are you trying to say?
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>>386673525
This desu
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nope
I like playing as girls because they're cute
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>>386673802
Woah, now you're implying that the players are racist. That's pretty stupid. They have no control over the game.
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Where are the games where I can play as an edlritch abomination?
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Games are not about people or social issues. Video games are about settings and gameplay. If you want to brainwash people or teach people to respect one another please keep that shit at work or school, thanks. You political activists already ruined movies and TV, please leave gaming alone.
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>>386670447
True, but you should still be able to have a character that FEELS right, but that isn't necessarily mean the character needs tio be the same race or even the same race for every game.

I mean, i had no issues playing as CJ is San Andereas, but part of that was that CJ was very customable, so you could get him to have look you were comfortable with.

Basically, a Character need sto be able to suit a players Aestetics because they player is ideally going to see his/her character for a long time, and that should be a comfortable experience.

Though there are outliers where the ugliness is arguably one of the appeal points.
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>>386670487
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3829266/
Why are there multiple women and a kid in the cast?
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>>386673917
Games were predominately "white dude" for the same reason today's publishers choose "equal rainbow of races/genders/etc"; it's what said pubs believed the audience would relate to the best, despite some claiming the latter is the opposite.
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>>386673976
They do indirectly, if they're being catered to. That's what that word implies. And if the audience really does demand only white protagonists then calling them racist is not inappropriate either.
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>>386670253
Generally no, unless you create a character I sometimes like to make one that might look like me. For the most part I don't care what they look like as long as the design isn't shit.
Besides the only character in any game to look like me is Zanza in his concept art. (Mostly because of the hair)
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>>386674017
>Games are not about people or social issues.
The king of vidya has spoken.
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>>386674025
Probably the wifes and kids that will get at most 25 min screen time in total
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>>386674117
I don't think anyone is demanding only white protagists, though.
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>>386673821
Well you can think what you want but when the decision was made solely on a political basis you cam kind of go fuck yourself right up the ass as im not supporting integration of political interests in video games with my own money. So sorry for just voting with my wallet. We cant all agree on what we think is meaningless or not.

I literally said its fine if its a game where the person is another ethnicity so long as its made by a country with majority of that ethnicity imo. I would support that product, its just a i dont support certain moves in the market that promote political interest groups integrating heavily with game direction.
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>>386672421

agreed
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>>386674113
But that's not why people are complaining so yeah it is the opposite in all the ways that matter.
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>>386674117
The problem is those confusing basic racial-preference with legitimate "I hate all non-whites, ban 'em 'n lynch 'em" logic that has come to define racism.

Calling them the same thing today enables the SJW-ish slippery-slope fallacy that's taken over a lot of the Internet.
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Yeah, I couldn't play Spyro because the main character is a dragon and not a human. I also can't play racing games because the character is a car
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>>386670253
Unless you are a fucking Adonis then I don't see why you would want to play as yourself.
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Who cares about humans, were the fuck are my kaiju and dinosaur games? They literally stopped getting made.
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>80% of people want to play as a bi-pedal
>19% of people want to play as a weird looking bi-pedal
>I just want to play as a dragon, or a giant bug, or some kind of beast
>the large majority of the remaining 1% that agrees with me is composed of furfags
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>>386671354
This. It also annoys me when you have to use your real name like in RaceRoom
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>>386673883
It matters for some people, why not give the option?
is really that costy or hard?
will solve all this bullshit, both sides will shut up because they can make whatever the fuck they want.
Instead, you have le mixed superdiverse whatever, and you cant change it, and those options we had before, they were racist agains people, so we took them down too.
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>>386674298
Well yeah, people are complaining because publishers chose to listen to the wrong people who don't even play vidya, hence why I said "skewed interpretations".
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>>386674117
What exactly are you referring to?
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>>386670701
Ok, I would agree eith you at sora, but the entiry point of kingdom hearts to comvine anime and disney.
Femshep I disagree, cause it still males sense in the plot.
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>>386674325
you're not playing as a CAR in racing games you donkey, you're playing as the DRIVER controlling the cat! jeez!

well unless you meant burnout of course then you play as the car
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>>386673883
But I liked the character creator in Mortal Kombat Armaggedon way more than the ones in most RPGs.
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>>386671729
This is silly, I even felt sympathy for Wall-E, and it's a robot
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>>386674318
Actually trying to separate everyday casual structural racism from the "ban 'me lynch 'em" racist is what allows people to be pretty damn racist while still maintaining they totally aren't because they're not donning white hoods and burning crosses and that's the only REAL racism. People who refuse to buy a game if the protagonist is black are pretty damn racist.
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>>386673639
YOU MUST ANSWER THE RIDDLE!
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>>386674349
>there will never be a proper non-text/low budget dragon game where you actually acquire wealth, sack kingdoms, and fight off would be heroes and other dragons
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>>386670447
dude just because I breath with my mouth doesn't put me on the same level as these character associators...
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>white
>male
>brown hair

feels good to be average as fuck
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no. games are for escapism. the only times i want to self insert are vaguely competitive or very relaxed things that allow it, like trainer customization in the newer pokemon games. or animal crossing.
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If it's a prefab character then no not at all, but in create a character I typically self insert, but that's more from a lack of desire to roleplay than a desire to be immersed.
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>>386671729
This is why we can't have nice things
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>>386674349
Reminds me of my old VIDYA IDEA i had as a kid, which basically was that you played as a WONDER DOG who had to help your incompetent HYUMAN family while dealing with fact you are a dog and only can bark and have no opposable thumbs. With Soul Nomad-like New Game+ where you go full on BAD DOG.
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>>386674504
>has a career mode
>you interact with people like a driver would
>you never need to see your face in the mirror
You dont need to, at all.
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>>386670945
Well, some of us self insert like >>386670581 said, by simply being an unseen predence that witnesses the MC's story unfold, but in your case, you aid him in his quest.
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>he uses his IRL name when the game asks him to name his character
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>>386674751
That's not self inserting.
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>>386674403
That's just pandering. I like my characters to be "good" looking and custom characters often look like shit.
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>>386674504
How do I know the driver isn't actually a dog?
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>>386674601
It really depends. It could be a protest of the company making an already established white character black for the sake of diversity. That's not racism, that's just being rightfully afraid that the developers don't respect the original work.

It goes both ways, too. I wouldn't watch an A-Team show if they made B.A. white.
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>>386672421
Fund it
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>>386674018
Nah.

You try to connect to the character.
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>>386674916
Better leave the door open for everyone to make what they want instead of forcing a single way of things, wich panders to someone of course.
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>>386670253
>implying any Asian country can produce bottom left
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>>386674631
I'll take a Bethesda game if I have to for something like that, I could see them piggybacking skyrim for a dragon game.

>>386674697
That sounds viable for a flavor of the month indie game just call it Dog Simulator and rake in the youtuber bucks. Don't let your dreams be memes
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>>386672421
Why aren't you developing video games?
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Custom characters almost always result in a shitty unfocused story unless the character themselves aren't a big part of the story.
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>>386672079
>>Confirmed canon
he would need a mustache for that
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>>386670253
Yes, the more they attempt to make the character look like someone the less I want to buy it. I want character creation in every game I play, I can play whatever I want then or atleast within the scope of the customization.
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>>386675172
Xenoblade Chronicles X handled it really well.
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>>386674441
>people are complaining because publishers chose to listen to the wrong people who don't even play vidya
Those aren't the complaints I meant and also those complaints are worth ignoring because they're not grounded in reality.
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>>386670253
No. What ever happened to having a suspension of disbelief? No matter if it's a hardened space marine or magical little anime girl you are taking the role of who they are and playing from their perspective. Relating to a character by experiencing the journey they take through the game is infinitely better than just shallow relation through pandering to the audience. Create a character protagonists are fine if the setting of the game calls for it but they almost always come off as shallow stand ins for the player and its up to the supporting cast to bring the personality to the game.
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If I can make a character I better be able to make a stacked shortstack otherwise is a useless feature
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>>386674601
That'd pretty much be "No I refuse to touch 'em"-tier, which is closer to the latter logic and not just passive preference. Sure if a black MC is enough to turn you away (and not because of bigger in-game aspects like it being 100% about rap-culture or something) then I agree with you.

That's different from, say, generally picking a non-black MC or devs setting their casts predominately around whatever they want and not some social criteria thrusted onto them. Telling somebody "you have to pick it or else you're racist" is just as dumb as refusing anything remotely black-related.
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>>386671729
playing as an alien in the AvP games is the best shit.

HISSSSSSSSSSS
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>>386670253
What matters more to me is how ridiculous I can make my character look than anything. I don't give one fuck about it looking like me, it never will. There's only one me, and only I can look the part, but my video game character better be able to have a face as thin as a noodle with a colossal neon green afro god dammit.
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>>386675012
Those people are a vocal minority. There's no money in pandering to them.
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>>386674457
In short, /v/.
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>>386670253
>Does your character "looking like you" matter to you in a game?
The correct answer for any sane person is "No". It only matters to mentally ill trannies who base their entire identity on the rest of the world bending to their insane delusions.

t. rural Southeast Asian descent
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>>386670447
This. Self inserts are for low iq retards anyway
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>>386674572
Wall-E had very human emotions, expressions, and motivations.
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>make a self-insert in AA2
>make perfect waifu for my self-insert
>get cucked by a Chad
Never again.
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>>386670253
I'm Arabian and I think its stupid as fuck, never understood the argument that you need to 'relate' to the character your playing strictly through skin color, especially annoyed with what I recently heard Activison say about their decision to add black women in the Nazi army for COD WW2.
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>>386675051
>>>/wsg/1815368
Sure they can't.
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>>386675686
>tfw Dio fucks my waifu then tries to fuck me
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>>386675496
>going full circle
So, its the jew overlords with their profit margin who keep with this bullshit, meanwhile devs listen to minorities who dont even play the game.
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>>386675509
/v/ is not the sole audience of any one game, especially not huge games like Wolfenstein.

And really, 4chan in general, where people can come to anonymously vent their anger from the daily grind onto other anymous people with full knowledge that it will have zero consequences, is a very poor choice of a specimen to observe how people interact on an intimate and very much human level.
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>>386675903
And those devs are failing if you haven't noticed.
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>>386675357
got a source for that friend? Image search gives nothing
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>>386670253
I don't mind the option but it depends on the game.

For instance, in RPGs I prefer the character have its own face so as long as it looks good. I don't much appreciate having the character look like ass if there's no story reason for it. Especially when done for polotical reasons.
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>>386670253
I don't know how much of an autistic self-insert retard you'd have to be to demand "representation" in video games or anything else the way liberals do. You're perfectly fine with the protagonist being a badass supersoldier who knows eight languages and has an IQ of 180 but the reason you can't relate to them is because they're a different race or gender or sexuality than you? It's just stupid.
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>>386676008
>people can come to anonymously vent their anger from the daily grind onto other anymous people with full knowledge that it will have zero consequences, is a very poor choice of a specimen to observe how people interact on an intimate and very much human level
As opposed to somewhere where they have a name and or face that can be used to track down a record of what they've said and hold it against them? Total anonymity is the best way to figure out what people are really like.
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>>386670253
I personally like games where I play as a custom character, that said a game where its a specific character I don't care if they're of my race, gender, etc. I just want an interesting character with dynamics that relate to the story
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>>386676213
Depends on if you think someone is who they really are when they're in a neutral mood or when they're venting / throwing a tantrum.
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>>386676149
This is not a liberal exclusive problem. Have you not seen how many people get upset when the main character isn't a white male these days?
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>>386676008
>>386676213
It's a moot point anyway because the underage memesters of today are the same off 4chan as they are on it
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>>386676036
From a meeting table point of view, this will end up like Konami doing mobile or slots because it will be too risky.
You think when all those people are purged, they will go back to its roots or something?
>marketing still gets 70% of the
>all the writters are tumblr tier
>the rest of the "dev" team is outsoruced to india
It will fall below early access indie bullshit.
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>>386670447
I'm a nosebreather and I associate myself with characters
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>>386676213
Not really. Especially not on the internet. Typing "FUCKING NIGGER" into a computer screen at nobody in particular and sending it off to the ether is a completely different experience than screaming "FUCKING NIGGER" in the face of your black neighbor you've known for years.
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>>386676149
People are more familiar with and therefore more easily relate to superficial, more tangible qualities. Go figure.
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>>386676149
>a badass supersoldier who knows eight languages and has an IQ of 180
Doesn't have to be as specific as that. Just being the hero for a change is enough.
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>>386670253
wow op, your image is so progressive
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>>386670945
wow holy fuck what a stupid post
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>mexican versions of everyone just add a big mustache

Why is this so funny
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>>386676497
But that's precisely why.
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>>386676540
>Black people trigger me
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>>386676653
i imagine a person's brain fires similarly when they type "FUCKING NIGGER" as it does when they swear IRL.

It doesn't mean they want to kill all black people all the time and are constantly suppressing that urge
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>>386670253
as long as theyre not women or niggers its fine by me
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>>386676740
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why is /v/ triggered by POC so bad anyway? whats the big deal? why should video game companies cater to your >WYTES OOONLY main protagonists? And then get mad when women complained about the same thing with so many male protagonists?
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>>386672421
It's a pretty cool idea but it seems to jump from some medievel setting to a high flying drug lord in a city senario
WELL WHAT IS IT?????
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>>386676740
they don't trigger me but they are really, really god damn ugly. To me that image is like showing me E3 was a bunch of games announcing their main characters as pieces of poop. Man they are just so ugly...
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>>386676807
>10k subs
Even a shitty youtuber has more.
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>>386676829
Because muh fee fees
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>>386676851
They look fine, what the fuck are you on about?
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me on the bottom left corner
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>>386676851
What would you rate yourself out of 10?
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>>386676829
>they forgot how to model white males and now only know how to model niggers
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>>386676346
Maybe it's because those games are blatantly pushing anti-white liberal agendas and two of the recent ones literally had Trump lookalikes as the villain?
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WE
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>>386676765
I imagine it means they have something against FUCKING NIGGERS that they wouldn't say to their black neighbour's face for obvious reasons.
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i prefer characters in full cool looking suits
if i know there skin color then they are showing to much skin
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>>386677057
Who are you quoting?
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>all this hate against inserting oneself to MC
>all these retards praise Kojima for MGSV's you're big boss shit

Sure
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>>386676807
There were Syrians on Hadrian's wall. The Roman soldiers came from all over the Empire.
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>>386677124
NIGGER NIGGER CHICKEN DINNER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkpr1btb1Ak
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>>386677152
whats the big deal? why should video game companies cater to your >WYTES OOONLY main protagonists?
Thats the big deal, from one side to the other, no middle ground.
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>>386677020
I'm easily an 8 when I'm more fit, 7 in my current state

some women would call me a 9 im sure but that's specific to their taaste. I'm not bad looking and I have high standards for looks, sorry if that makes you butthurt darkie
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>>386677206
>sub saharan nigger roman soldiers
no they didn't you revisionist commie fuck
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>>386677092
What games are you talking about?
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>>386677223
But he didn't say
>everyone forgot how to make white males
Where does that come in?
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>>386677235
I was just curious. I'm tall and I work out so I do alright for myself. I don't care if people are critical, but some fat sack of shit calling people ugly just seems dumb to me. Good for you if you take care of yourself.
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>>386677223
it's not about "whites only" dude there's just really, really obviously a coordinated effort to fuck with the status of white people in western society, which was built by white people so it's kind of a fucked up thing to happen

if you deny this i think you're genuinely a bad person, or maybe just dumb lol
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>>386676851
>main characters
So you don't even know what you're mad about.
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>>386677092
>anti-white liberal agendas
kek

imagine being this paranoid and perpetually butthurt

ps real life has a trump lookalike as the villain
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>>386677409
Weird sarcastic tone to take considering what you said was so dumb. I never said I was mad about those pieces of poop in that picture lol
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>>386670253
If I can make it look like me I will, and if I can't I make them look retarded as possible
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>>386677294
Who mentioned sub-Saharans?
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>>386677494
>kek
imagine being a 17 year old apathetic redditor who is steeped in knowledge about an obviously occurring phenomenon but is too much of a pacified good goy to even recognize it
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>>386677401
>individuals work should reflect and follow the current state of society and its political point of view
Yes comrade.
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>>386672757
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>>386677235
Yeah, right. Post a pic of you holding up your favourite game and the date.
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>>386670253
No, as a matter of fact I like weird unorthodox protaganists.
>>386671729
Maybe if Bioware decided to take a risk and do something interesting they're games wouldn't be so shit
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>>386677582
>kek is reddit now

What the fuck happened to this place?
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>>386677401
If by "status" you mean "supremacy" then yes. Equality is the name of the game.
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>>386676807
>BBC includes a couple of inaccurately placed people of apparently African decent in cartoons for children
>OMFG THEY'RE TEACH UR CHILDREN THEY BLACK N SHIT!!!!!!
These mental gymnastics deserve an Olympic gold medal.
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>>386670447
Excuse me shitlord, I'm a back transexual and I NEED to be have a character like me, ok?
Don't you ever talk like that again.
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>>386677401
So you guys make fun of shit like >>386677565 for saying vidya is political, but go on to contradict yourself by saying it IS political if a bunch of pixels can influence the nation as a whole?
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>>386677582
kek @ this butthurt
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>>386670253
no but I'm also not going to go full autism when the protag is black either
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>>386677801
But Anon, we've always been at war with Eastasia.
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>>386676740
There are people out there that get triggered by white males so whatever.
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>>386677830
kill yourself commie kike
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>>386677947
This.

One of my friends is actually triggered by white dudes as protagonists. He never fails to mentions how "UGH GENERIC WHITE GUY PROTAG NO THANKS"
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Oh boy
Are normies mad at faceapp again
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Sometimes I like to make myself.
Sometimes I do whatever.
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>>386678076
oops, I'll include a tr*gger warning next time just for you.
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>>386677565
Can anyone offer a reasonable argument explaining why this is wrong?

Anything mentioning "anti-white" or "cultural Marxism" will be discounted.
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>>386670253
I like making cool guys and cute girls. Never make myself.
I already play as myself all the time, might as well play as someone different for once.
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>>386677582
Kek
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>>386678110
>He never fails to mentions how "UGH GENERIC WHITE GUY PROTAG NO THANKS"
So basically /v/ about five years ago?
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>>386670253
To this board, as long as it's a masculine generic white space marine, it's all that matters. Otherwise it's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'M BEING LITERALLY RAPED WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MUH AGENDA PUSHING WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MUH WHITE GENOCIDE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>386678110
your friend is that yellow cat from dobson cartoons?
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No. I want the character to be a cute girl from 12-24 years old.
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>>386678279
>generic bald beared man
>generic white male
Thank you for the revision rabbi.
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>>386678183
It's not "wrong". It just doesn't belong in Video Games.
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>>386678408
m8
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>>386678514
Cool opinion but they obviously don't agree.
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>>386678183
Videogames are supposed to be fun escapism
Forced politics isn't fun or escapism
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>>386671729
fucking triggered
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>>386678586
Video games are supposed to be anything their creators want them to be. Also, deliberately sticking to the status quo and avoiding commentary on it is itself a political position. I don't think seeing straight white male hegemony reinforced all the time or seeing American interventionism justified was very fun or escapist for some people.
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>>386678569
That's the point isn't it. TThey have an agenda and they want to push it onto other people.
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>>386678183
>>386677861
They shouldn't be political. They are because anti white cultural marxist Jew nigger faggot lesbian trans heterosexual white male cis bacon wrapped hormone replaced silly string spraying beat boxing Nazi heiling meme loving LOL threading waifu baiting counter terrorist Shawshank Redemption hating book burning lube eating shit faced monkey cunts keep making them that way, and that stupid program encourages them to.
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>>386673976

Like the guy who responded to you said, I was implying that the players were asking for an all-white cast and the GM was delivering - that's the usual response to why vidya protags are all white (the audience wants white characters!)
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>>386678559
That's only generic if you don't play vidya.
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>>386678789
You have an agenda you want to push onto them.
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>>386672376
Hideo Kojima
Thom Kojima
Samuel L. Kojima
Kojimbo Stone
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>>386678869
Jesus m8 you alright?
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>>386678906
And what's my agenda?
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>>386678869
Wat do ya think o' that?
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>>386678183
Because they are forcing politics (and not even politics in general, just the shit they agree with) into video games and admitting they are teaching their students to do the same shit too.
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>>386677565
videogames are dead
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>>386670253
I don't even bother making my character look like me in games with customization, it's too much work
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>>386679029
To silence critics and keep opinions you don't like out of video games.
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>>386677145
This armor is cool as fuck
>also
This post is cool as fuck
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>>386679107
Not a single good game has been affected by sjw shit.
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>>386675396

It's not, though, given the context of "western media predominately features white characters." In that context, it makes sense to demand characters be something other than white.
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>>386672720
But aren't skeletons inherently human, almost more so than most external features? At least the one you posted. I'd say there are more humans with a skeleton than with any one particular eye or skin color.
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>>386679051
Their whole argument is that video games are already political and full of the shit they disagree with.
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>>386679116
That's wrong. I'd like to keep all politics out of my vidya.
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>>386679185
This.
Whenever a game with SJW shit ends up being total shit it doesn't happen because it has SJW shit, it happens because the rest of the game was shit too.
Take any recent Bioware game, for example. Inquisition and Andromeda are shit for many reaons that have nothing to do with SJWs.
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>>386678869
God damn this made me laugh
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>>386679326
That does not contradict what I said.

But why should politics be kept out of vidya?
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>>386670253
To me the character I play as is just a character like any other, even in games where I can create one
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>>386670253
Since the oblivion char creation I only play the ugliest pieces of shit the random button can come up with or whoever looks the most Jewish
>bonus points for far cry 2 for giving me the option to play as an Israeli
Also im german, i simply like Jews for the memes they are
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>>386679338
I have to assume the people whining only ever played basic bitch AAA shit anyway.
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>>386679326
>my
It's not "your" vidya mate. They have the right to make whatever they want.

You have the right to vote with your wallet.
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What games have conservative political opinions in it?
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>>386679693
Call of Duty.
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>>386679693
Conservatives don't make video games.
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>>386670253
no. im asian and think the white guy is fitting for the game. anyone who wants to change things to appease minorities is pathetic
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>>386670253
>Does your character "looking like you" matter to you in a game?
It did when I was 15. Now I couldn't be more indifferent about it.

>Does it influence your buying decision?
No and it never did. Now that would be truly sad if it did.

While I do like to self insert in some RPGs, to make that the driving force of whether or not to play a game seems to be nothing short of narcissism.
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>>386677818
I bet a white person would have a great deal of "equality" if he went to start a new life in another part of the world outside of the west. Mass immigration started only half a century ago yet minorities get triggered by the remnants of the days when these countries were all native white people. Why does no one else make anything else about their own fucking cultures in their own fucking countries. Why does the west have to do everything for everyone???
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>>386679963
jews and commies
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>>386679790
Were not talking about wolfenstein specifically, this videogames in general.
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>>386677565
Video games can well be political and they can aspire to do whatever the top slide says, the problem is that the people who say stuff like that usually seem to think that the topic they enthuse about is the only right way to do things
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>>386679693
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>>386670253
I generally prefer to play as an attractive character to one that looks like me when character customization options are given.
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>>386678753
You sound like a total faggot that takes things too seriously to enjoy vidya
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>>386679414
>That does not contradict what I said.
You said I wanted to keep "opinions" I don't like out of vidya. You were wrong.
>But why should politics be kept out of vidya?
It breaks immersion.
>>386679687
It's a figure of speech.
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>>386678158
Would fug
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>>386679963
>I bet a white person would have a great deal of "equality" if he went to start a new life in another part of the world outside of the west.
So you want the West to be more like those other places?

Anyway there was this thing called Colonialism you might want to read up on, as well as the slave trade, segregation, and apartheid, things like that.
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>>386680112
>It's a figure of speech.
Sure but my point still stands.
They can do whatever they want. And you shouldn't be able to control them.

Vote with your wallet.
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>>386680016
its a "no" and as i mention, any game dev who does this shit to any established IP is revisionist scum. if the game character is a minority from the start, there is no problem. its just like TV and movie shows. if you dont like the white face, then make your own fucking content
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>>386680101
I'm not the guy who literally can't play any game with black people in it because he fears it *might* be propaganda.
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I'm a white af nerd and I'm currently going through Deus Ex with a black JC Denton named Wesely Snipes.

So no.
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>>386680112
>You said I wanted to keep "opinions" I don't like out of vidya. You were wrong.
I'm right. You should realise that.
>It breaks immersion.
Not really. Especially if you're not looking for political readings in the first place, which you shouldn't be if you don't care. But furthermore, so what? Nice opinion. Play something else.
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>>386677565
>able bodied
Is this bait? Making a protagonist disabled would certainly be interesting, but I don't see how it work in 99% of games.
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>>386680308
>any game dev who does this shit to any established IP is revisionist scum
I don't think that's what revisionism is m8, maybe tone down the rhetoric just a teensy bit?
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>>386670253
I don't get it, fourth doesn't fit image.
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>>386670253

It matters somewhat to me if a developer would assume I want the character to look like me.

I find the notion appalling, and I will think a bit less of the developers, which in turn influences my buying decision.
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>>386670253
no but i'm white.
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>>386670253
I don't care how they look as long as they're not niggers or women
or queers
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>>386680041
Someone tell this guy Fallout's political and social landscape basically ended up locked in the 50s red scare era.
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>>386680668
Or fat, I probably wouldn't ever play as a fat.
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>>386680546
Both Adam Jensen and Venom Snake are disabled.
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>>386680546
The Surge has you start in a wheelchair before you're stapled to an exo skeleton. I think there was also a niche indie horror game where you're blind and find your way through sounds. But yeah, it's not easy to do, especially not in a way that doesn't negate the disability.
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>>386680668
>I don't care how they look
>Unless it's something don't want to look at
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>>386680324
Neither am I?
Nice mental gymnastics though
There's nothing inherently wrong with minorities in games, but it's pretty obvious when developers have them because "fuck white people" is the new status quo
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Why is interracial such a big thing for American devs? Why can't white men be with white women and black men be with black women?
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>be black
>every black character lately only serves as an agenda push by virtue signaling white people, instead of being an actually interesting character

I wish they realized this is worse than having no black characters
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>>386680546
>we're just going to pretend amazing, inclusive games like QWOP, Exanima, and Surgeon Simulator were never released
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>>386680212
So because blacks and muslims sold black slaves to Europeans we now have to have our history blackwashed so your fee fees don't get hurt?
I don't give a fuck about slavery and colonialism, it's history to me. Even though it was my ancestors that did the colonising i feel little relation to them. Which apparently doesn't apply to every black dude with a chip on his shoulder about something that didn't even happen to him.
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>>386680732
Don't you begin the new Wolfenstein in a wheelchair too?
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No, but if character looks like fucking monkey i probably won't play it.
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>>386680963
They can? I don't see the issue of a black man with a white woman in a fictional setting and vice versa
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>>386670253
What's the down right one, a Bulgarian?
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>>386680262
>They can do whatever they want. And you shouldn't be able to control them.
Others are doing it so I might just as well throw my hat in the ring.
>>386680473
>I'm right. You should realise that.
You're not. I'd like to keep out politics which I like as well.
>Not really.
Unless you've been living under a rock or are underage it does break immersion.
>But furthermore, so what?
Immersion is an important part in fiction. Which is what the majority of games with a story are.
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>>386681108
That's because you grew up in an era where interracial relationships has been shoved down your throat by all facets of the media
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>>386670253
Not at all. The only thing that bothers me is females that are "supposed" to be attractive, but are ugly as fuck because of bad modeling.

Plus you can relate to a character in more than appearance.
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>>386680961
>it's pretty obvious when developers have them because "fuck white people" is the new status quo
Not really. Not any more than it was "fuck non-white people" before.
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>>386680963
they are pathetic cucks. seriously. the #1 porn search term in California is cucking.
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>>386680212
>the colonialism and slave trade argument

What are you, a liberal arts major?
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>>386670253
Not in the least. The last character I played as was a 1 foot tall yellow rat with a lightning bolt-shaped tail.
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>>386670253
yea

i'm tired of games with niggers. i'm a white guy that likes to look at other white people. so i don't buy games with too many uppity niggers in them, especially as the protagonist.
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>>386670253
I really don't care about the race or gender of the main character if I play a video game. But I do often make white male character who looks like Clint Eastwood for some reason when I'm allowed to because I'm a white male who doesn't look like Clint Eastwood. I guess I do slightly prefer playing as a white male character, but in the end I really don't care.
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Many times I'm not sure how a female character would react or act in a certain situation and that can take me out of the game. In terms of race I don't care at all
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>>386680963
>>386681312
Interracial relationships are the most efficient way to homogenise society and are the ultimate weapon against multiculturalism.
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>>386678559
>I completely disregard the personality and depth of a character if they have white skin and even vaguely dark hair but somehow you're the bad person here not me
Please, with a straight face, write me a one-sentence essay on how Michael from GTA V is similar to Naked Snake from MGS3, or how Nathan Drake from Uncharted is similar to Max Payne from Max Payne, or how Joel from TLoU is similar to Sam Fisher from Splinter Cell. Unlike the prestigious Ivy Leagues I won't accept #BlackLivesMatter as an essay, though.
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>>386681312
That's where you're wrong faggot and the moment you tried to put words in my mouth is where I quit because there is no use arguing with retards.
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>>386681017
>So because blacks and muslims sold black slaves to Europeans
Nice right-wing talking point. Even if you were right and white people didn't capture plenty of slaves on their own, the bigger issue is who actually kept them. And the society that arose as a consequence. And the justifications put in place to maintain it. It may be history to you but that's because you're not black and not still dealing with the fallout.
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Does the game have character creation? Then it would be nice to be able to make someone that looks like me but it's not necessary.
Otherwise, it literally does not fucking matter. Give me a good game and make the character look interesting on it's own. Go crazy as shit with your design if you want, just make sure they're enjoyable to play.
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Remember how much it mattered if a character was visually similar to the player back during Metroid?

Me neither. What the character looks like doesn't fucking matter so long as you can do fun shit as that character.
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>>386680963
Seems like it's more of a big deal for you. I don't really see it as any different than a same race relationship.
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>>386680979
Have you actually played the games they're in?
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trans* representations in video games is incredibly slim as it so if I let that effect my buying decisions.... i might as well just stop playing video games >.>
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>>386681494
Kek
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>>386670253
I don't recall ever playing as Waluigi and feeling any great connection.
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>>386680073
What game is that? Looks nice
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>>386681279
>You're not. I'd like to keep out politics which I like as well.
Except you don't like 'em in video games.
>Unless you've been living under a rock or are underage it does break immersion.
Your subjective experience is not a fact.
>Immersion is an important part in fiction.
Politics are an important part of the world. How do you intend to have any sort of verisimilitude if you just ignore them?
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>>386681598
There's still plenty of slavery going on in Africa now.
Doesn't seem to come up as much though
Funny that
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>>386681494
You completely missed the point. The post was trying to show how /v/ in the past was tired of always getting the same looking dude over and over. I'm arguing the character traits of these specific characters.
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>>386681743
Shot in the dark but I think it's Sunset Overdrive
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Mention ONE game that would have been great if it didn't have libcuck crap in it.
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>>386681391
Just someone with a little awareness of historical and social context.
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>>386670253
not playing a character who isn't white or a slant
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>>386681494
meanwhile >>386680979
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>>386681712
0.05% of the population that is being forced into everything
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>>386681849
Maybe it doesn't come up because it's a complete red herring when it comes to race relations in modern day America
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>>386682036
Name one AAA game that has a fucking tranny
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>>386681997
>>386681494
lmao virtue signaling white knight btfo
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I play games to get AWAY from reality, not closer to it.
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>>386670253
>always start making a generic white dude as a first character
>end up hating it just because it's boring as fuck, and I can't derive any joy out of dressing up a dude.
>make female characters of varying shapes and colors
>having a blast
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>>386681716
What's wrong with you?
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>>386682119
Street Fighter.
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>>386682119
watch dogs 2
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>>386682119
Call of Duty, Skyrim etc.
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>>386682036
Get ready for that figure to fucking skyrocket once all the braindead transtrender teen girls turn 18 and become relevant in US demographics
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>>386682158
I have a big nose, and freaky long legs, what can I say.
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>>386681017
>The slave trade ended in the early 1800s
>Slavery didn't end in most countries for another several generations
>In the US it was by force
FUCKING MUSLIMS FORCING US TO HAVE SLAVES FOR DECADES AFTER THEY SOLD THEM TO US!
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>>386682194
A lot of japanese games have crossdressers if you think about it but no one ever mentions those.
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Don't care as long as it's not a female
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>>386670253
>Does your character "looking like you" matter to you in a game?
i dont care whether i play as a white dude, a chinese dude, a mexican, or a japanese anime girl. as long as its not a nigger or an annoying stronk wymyn tumblr character, i'm ok with it.
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>>386682210
>>386682195
>>386682194
lmao fucking rekt
>>386682119

>>386682216
>get ready
they are already growing out of it since its already been discovered to be a social media fad with the retards
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>>386682119
Andromedar
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>>386682119
Horizon Zero Dawn
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>made my character in Dragon Age Inquisition a black dude before I realized it was a SJW game
>that was arguably the only time I made a black character
My SJW senses probably were tingling or something or maybe it's just that white guys in DA:I look like shit while my bald nigger looked pretty cool.
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>>386682325
Source? Most of these people I know aren't growing out of it
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>>386670253
I can play both male, female or a completly fictionnal characters, I don't care.
But I don't play niggers.
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>>386681881
>It's not on PC
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>>386682194
Poison has been around since forever you fucking faggot
>>386682195
It wasn't even forced
>>386682210
Skyrim? CoD? Are you serious I can't even tell.
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>>386681830
>Except you don't like 'em in video games.
You said that I want to keep opinions I don't like out.
>Your subjective experience is not a fact.
It broke immersion. That's a fact.
>Politics are an important part of the world. How do you intend to have any sort of verisimilitude if you just ignore them?
Nice non-sequitur but to answer your question I don't ignore politics I just don't want them in my vidya.
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>>386682249
>Whitey evil
The ride never ends
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>Not purposefully making the ugliest motherfucker ever
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>>386681743
>>386681881
Correct. It is Sunset Overdrive.
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>>386682435
Do you mind black party members?
What about Big Bo?
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>>386670253
I prefer to make characters based of myself in games where you can customize your character, but if that isn't available I'll usually wear something that conceals his face.

In other words, no it doesn't effect my decision to buy or not.
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>>386670253
No, I'm willing to play as anything if they are cool and fit the part.
I played as a thungin nigga in the division while shooting up gangs and raiding shit. I played as a high profile rich asian man in gta v. And who doesn't love fantasy races? I don't give a shit as long as I like how I look and I'm not out of place.
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>>386670253

its only acceptable in an MMO with high character customization (or rather, not looking like you, but looking like you WANT to look) because that is sorta the point.

in every other game its pretty damn pointless, I dont need to identify with a blue hedgehog or anything like that just to have gameplay fun.
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>>386682249
>white men start a revolution against white men to free blacks
>white men die for the freedom of blacks
>220 years later

Le whitey has to pay me muh history waas black and everything black.
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It matters that I can emphasize with my character in some way, if there is a story to the game. Looking like me helps, but isn't necessary.
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>>386681874
No, I get it, but you can't compare the two. /v/ was mad about CHARACTER DESIGN and how almost every new video game protagonist looked somewhat similar. SJWs are mad about white males specifically because they're "not diverse" and something something "culture of white supremacist heteronormative patriarchy fuck Drumpf and fuck white people lmao." The former was, right or wrong, about video games. The latter is about identity politics. Don't try to act like they're the same, man.
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>>386681874
none of those look the same beyond brown hair and brown eyes that is the most common IRL and whites buy more games than anymore else
also Snake is a blonde and Shepard is a create-a-character
fucking gee wilikers i wonder why they're particularly common
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>>386682590
So now americans ask why no one killed lincoln before he did it.
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>>386671249
>one example

Damn that guy sure lost the argument
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>>386682590
The way you describe it makes the niggers look like masterminds who made white people kill each other for their own benefit and then managed to make said white people feel guilty about it.
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>>386670253
I'm more influenced by the personality of the characters than their looks but I like making characters that look like me, even though I'm pretty lazy anyways, I just make a blond guy and don't level up CHA.
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>>386682119
Dragon Age: Inquisition
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>>386682580
why would I play as me?
That just makes me think of all the stuff I should be doing instead of pampering a virtual doll of myself.

Like for example pampering a virtual catgirl doll.
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>>386682552
>Do you mind black party members?
Not at all.
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>>386670253

Nope. Mostly irrelevant.
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>>386682474
>You said that I want to keep opinions I don't like out.
Which includes all political opinions. Which is an arbitrary line to draw for any medium.
>It broke immersion. That's a fact.
To you, maybe.
>Nice non-sequitur
Really, you don't see the connection between verisimilitude and immersion?
>I don't ignore politics I just don't want them in my vidya.
I was more referring to the devs here.

Tell me, do you think The Witcher is immersive?
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I only self insert when I play RPGs. In RPGs i always make my character me or what I think I'd be like in such a setting, it's fun. I just wish more companies would do black character's hair properly, always two choices..cornrows and afros

Aside from that If the gameplay is fun and the character is white or asian etc...i don't mind, i think black people are more use to people not having that so we don't throw a fit when a character is not white or a woman
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>>386682724
One example is all it takes when he unironically claims that all non-white characters are forced politicization
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>>386682423
not on /v/ - if you want to discuss it, we will have to go to THAT board unless you are goading me to post a news site link to get banned. ive been banned twice just posting a source twice now on /v/ lmao
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>>386682249
See
>>386681849
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>>386670253
Yes. The decisions I would make in a story focused game and action would matter.
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No.
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>>386682642
In the end though, it boils down to SJWs being mad about character design and how every new video game protagonist looked somewhat similar.

It's not a zero sum game. Just because SJWs get something they want that doesn't mean it has to be something you dislike.
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>>386682730
>the niggers look like masterminds
No the niggers look like the helpless and incompetent niggers they are today.
Incapable of social progress.
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>playing black protag
>its about racism

can someone name one game that doesn't have racism as an underlying theme?

The thing is that every time they introduce a black protag, people already know what the theme will be. More white guilt bullcrap. Most nobody playing games now was even born in the 60s. Why are WE being reminded?
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>>386682590
>>386682656
lincoln was fine with it until he needed disposable troops as he was losing. also it wasnt white men who started the whole trade either, it was ((())) and blacks - in fact, the first slave owner in america was black who owned black men
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>>386670253

Who is stupid enough to be influenced by the character's look rather than by the type of gameplay a video game has?
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>>386682861
I would gladly play as a black vegan pro-choice trans if they made a game where my choices actually fucking matter instead of the shit we have been getting as of late.
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>>386682979
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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>>386674090
>someone bought/downloaded Fallout 4 just to do this
nobody wins
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>>386683001
Shut Up and Jam Gaiden
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>>386683014
>it was ((())) and blacks - in fact, the first slave owner in america was black who owned black men
This is wrong.
>((()))

It isn't that only American Niggers are too dumb for History. It is all Americans are too dumb for it.
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>>386674090
>Shadow Moon and Dead Wife
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>>386682653
>also Snake is a blonde
That's Big Boss. Also I think Kojima kinda stepped away from that even for Solid Snake.
>Shepard is a create-a-character
But he has a default look used in marketing.
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I'm a brown dude, and if it's a game where the player character is supposed to represent me (Pokemon, Animal Crossing, etc) then yeah it's important that a character looks like me. Being disappointed I couldn't be a brown dude in Pokemon as a kid was always my reaction every time I started a new one. Having to hack/idle on my 3DS to be a brown dude in New Leaf was annoying as fuck. This is mostly a problem in Japanese games with character creators.
However, in games where I'm assuming the role of another character I don't give a fuck. I only care about good character design. Western devs need to stop putting black dudes in places where they don't belong. I'm trying to enjoy medieval Polish fantasy, not my college campus.
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>>386683001
50 cent: blood in the sand
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>>386683035
the fact this thread exists should be your answer.
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>>386682857
Already been addressed.
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>>386672421
>I've had this idea for a game
>posts plot and setting idea
Another QUALITY /v/ idea guy. Please stay away from game dev
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>>386683001
Cory in the house
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>>386683207
There is no canon Shep. Same for Dragon Age. There is a default, but no canon. FemShep was used as well.
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>>386683148
>this is wrong
yeah nah. deal with it worthless canadian. also irish were the biggest victims of slavery in america. same with asians building the fucking railroads
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>>386683221
>Having to hack/idle on my 3DS to be a brown dude in New Leaf was annoying as fuck.
literally autistic
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>I don't care if a game is shit or not, I only care if the character is my skin colo4 or gender!!!!
Didn't we criticize tumblr for this shit? DON'T WE STILL CRITICIZE THEM FOR THIS?!
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>>386683341
Femshep was only used in the marketing for 3 and that was controversial.
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>>386683001
Prototype 2
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>>386683001
following up on this, its not that I don't want to self insert.

Its that the game doesn't want me to self insert. Its trying to remind me that I'm White. So the game is actively stopping me for self-inserting.

That's why its popular to have racism against fictional races, but nobody is falling for it. We know who they are talking about.
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>>386683293
Yea, it's dumb left-leaning political activists and dumb white nationalists that never interacted with anyone outside their race pretty much. This is pretty much a battle between them, on the internet.

With that said, I hate feminism and I hope that one day the west goes back to traditional values.
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>>386683057
Hmm. It sounds weird that you would play someone not of your race since it does matter when it comes to immersion, but you do you. Yes I agree, this doesn't have to do with how the main characters look but about game design, developers often parrot the big C&C (Choice and Consequence) but never deliver. If you see that a game has too good graphics and they offer C&C then it's because the game has no gameplay. The only game where you can trust developers that they really implemented C&C properly, especially in an RPG is if the game looks like a PS2 game. Why? Money and time.
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>>386670253
nope, never has and never will.

I dont self insert in ANY media
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>>386683479
D-DELETE THIS!!
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>>386670253
Buff McLargehuge, Buff McLargehuge (black), Buff McLargehuge (asian) **rare**, Freddie Mercury
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>>386672436
I made this back when Kojima made that partnership with Sony after he left Konami
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>>386683530
tfw I still haven't played it because steam only has the faggy censored german version.
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>>386683479
>/pol/tards are a right-wing version of tumblrtards
STOP THE PRESSES
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>>386672421
Could be some sort of stealth/survival game with heavy RPG elements. As you progress through the game you gradually notice you spend more and more time in dialogue boxes and less using the stealth and survival mechanics.
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>>386683491
It was controversial because fat bitches got pissy she was supposed to be blue eyes and blonde hair after having been put to a vote. Fat bitches also all pissy because they made her look human rare than a fucking ayy. Fat bitches can go choke and die on a hotdog.
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>>386682841
>Which includes all political opinions. Which is an arbitrary line to draw for any medium.
"All of it" is hardly arbitrary.
>To you, maybe.
How would that make it untrue.
>Really, you don't see the connection between verisimilitude and immersion?
I was talking about how immersion is important in fiction. Politics being important is irrelevant to that point.
>Tell me, do you think The Witcher is immersive?
Never played it. Does it have references to Communism, Imperialism or Republicanism?
Because that sure as hell would break immersion.
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>>386677210
>those comments
is this what kids spend their time doing on the internet now?
>i'm proud to be part of gen zyklon
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>>386682506
>White Europeans need cheap labor for their tobacco and cotton farms
>Bring in Irish labor in de-facto slavery
>Find out it's cheaper and more effective to import actual slaves from Africa
>Create a socially and legally stratified society based on race in order to justify racially based slavery
>Irish population receives rights on par with poor whites, quickly elevating them out of servant-for-life status
>200 years later, end racial slavery legally
>Keep the legal and social segregation in place that keeps rich white people on top
>Legal segregation continues unchecked for 100 years, upheld by all-white courts at all levels
>WOW WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT IT'S WHITE PEOPLE'S FAULT! IT WAS ALL AFRICANS AND JEWS AND THE IRISH WERE THE REAL VICTIMS AND IT'S BEEN OVER FOR CENTURIES! STOP PLAYING VICTIM BECAUSE *I'M* THE REAL VICTIM!
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>>386683423
>character is supposed to represent me
>have to go out of my way to make him look like me
>complain about this in a relevant thread
>"lol autism"
What did he mean by this?
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>>386683297
How though? >>386682249 point is that whitey was wrong for continuing slavery after the slave trade ended. Yet the fact Africa still does it TODAY is irrelevant? Plus stop making everything about America, the whole west is suffering the wrath of political correctness.
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>>386683572
I understand self-referential/self-deprecating humour, but you're trying way too hard.
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>>386682847
I am sure it is.
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>>386683401
>irish were the biggest victims of slavery in america
This is just blatant historical revisionism.
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>>386683724
Is it bad that that gif gave me an erection?
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>>386683807
>all leaves are green
>nope, look at this yellow leaf
>wow one example, shut the fuck up
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>>386683715
For the past 3-4 decades racism hasn't been an institutionalized thing. Reporting a company for that shit instantly gets it shut down. Black people have had 3-4 decades to move up the social ladder and yet barely any of them have because they still idolize their bastardized """culture""".
t. Black man who made it out and jelly ghettofags call me Uncle Tom/Oreo
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>>386670253
It can potentially make a game more fun.

Give me two versions of the same game with two bland characters, but one of them is more like me. Then I'll pick that one.

Now on the flip side say the one not like me is a more fun character, then I'll pick that one.

Or give one of the two games better gameplay and/or story then I'll pick that one. But I don't need a character to be like me.
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>>386683784
>Whataboutsim
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>>386670253
No
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I wish I could have messed with the race face app thing before they removed it.
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>>386683715
Well I guess they can all go back to africa then, noone can oppress them there and surely they would be better off right?
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I only buy games where I can play as a cute girl
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>>386683715
WOW IT'S ALMOST LIKE WHITE PEOPLE LIVED BETTER IN WHITE COUNTRIES AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS? HOLY SHIT LET ME GET BACK TO PLAYING MY VIDYA WITH MY FAVORITE BLACK FEMALE PROTAG
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>>386683684
>"All of it" is hardly arbitrary.
Yes, it fucking is. Because "all of it" is still one area of human experience that's arbitrarily off-limits.
>How would that make it untrue.
It doesn't make it true for anyone else.
>I was talking about how immersion is important in fiction. Politics being important is irrelevant to that point.
I just said it's important to verisimilitude. That applies entirely to fiction.
>Does it have references to Communism, Imperialism or Republicanism?
>Because that sure as hell would break immersion.
It does and it doesn't, respectively.
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>>386683968
It's still there
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>not being little girls
I knew this board was full of fags
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>>386683873
>get absolutely no fucking coverage at all
>people in fact treat irish today like fucking shit because "muh white"
>same exact treatment in history
kys
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>>386683785
Keep laughing. I like your kind, you're the type that doesn't take anything seriously until someones pulls the rug underneath your feat. Easily manipulated and toyed with.
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>>386683001
The Walking Dead by Telltale, literally the only time Lee's race comes up is in episode 2 when Kenny asks him to pick a lock and Lee asks him why he thinks he can pick a lock and Kenny replies "because you're...urban" and Lee just shakes his head
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>>386672112
>faceapp
They removed it though
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>>386683926
>For the past 3-4 decades racism hasn't been an institutionalized thing.
Oh you poor naive fool.
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>>386684127
Is this Tera? I haven't played it in a while, what is this beauty
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>>386683921
But if you check his post he never really claimed -all- leaves are green therefore your one example didn't really win the argument.
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>>386684160
>same exact treatment in history
Wrong again.
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>>386684202
As long as you don't teleport behind me, we're good.
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>>386684225
Micro-aggressions aren't institutionalised racism anon
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>>386683001
Final Fantasy 7 and Final Fantasy 13
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>>386683001
Literally any game with character customization,
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>>386683715
>japs enslave koreans
>mongols enslave chinese
>middle east enslaves everyone and themselves even today
>africans enslave africans even today
>spanish enslaved mexicans
WOOOWWWWWWW WHITE PEOPLE
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>>386684224
already?
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>>386684367
Mongols enslaved slavs too, anon
just in a different way
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>>386683978
Well said anon
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>>386684385
Is there a way to de-version a app? Install an old version. I never got to try them
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>>386684367
>indian tribes fucking enslaved each other and known to be a warring, violent people raiding each other, enslaving and raping
WOOOWWWW WHITE PEOPLE
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>>386677120
But they had monkey tails at the start, they'd complain about being compared if Saiyans were black.
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>>386684096
>It doesn't make it true for anyone else
We can't know that.
>I just said it's important to verisimilitude. That applies entirely to fiction.
Fiction does not need modern politics to have verisimilitude.
>It does and it doesn't, respectively.
It makes no sense for those ideologies to exist in that universe. If that doesn't break your immersion that's on you being a brainlet.
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>>386684367
But those are all poor minority countries, they don't know what they're doing
Only white people are truly evil, we must pay for our sins

>t.German
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>>386684224
Jesus christ you're right
https://twitter.com/search?q=faceapp&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Esearch
Jesus fucking christ
This is it lads, I may have to leave this planet behind

Do these people even know how it works
They do know it's created with an amalgam of picture of actual people of those races. Real genuine people. They simply look for features that line up with the input image

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. "BLACKFACE." They have the fucking audacity to call this effect with no stereotypes, exaggerations, or caricatures "blackface" and then treat it as if it's just as racist as real blackface
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>>386671187
What game?
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>>386684576
Didn't the Europeans rape them and their lands then claim they own it? Don't forget the Smallpox
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>>386683978
>Stop hitting me
>The guy over there would hit you a lot harder, you have no right to complain about me.
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>>386684536
The process is all done server-side. The feature is gone forever now.
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>>386684635
>We can't know that.
You're right, we can't, so it's a shit argument.
>Fiction does not need modern politics to have verisimilitude.
Depends entirely on the fiction. Again, you're shutting off a massive area of potential topics and themes here because of your arbitrary demand.
>It makes no sense for those ideologies to exist in that universe.
I thought you hadn't played it?
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>>386684718
That's not what I said though, it was more along the lines of "If you don't like being hit by me you can alway go back to being hit by your own kind, in fact it's preferrable because your mere presence is a nuisance to me and my taxes"
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>>386684758
yeah, they hot-fixed it
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>>386683926
Look up white flight and redlining, mate.

Before Johnson could shut down Jim Crow, all the rich white people moved out of the cities, took all the work with them, then prohibited anyone ethnic from moving in with them, and set down codes that let them deny services to anyone who didn't get to leave.

Opporitunity isn't free, and it isn't something you can just force if you can't afford much beyond the basic necessities of life. There's a reason why even still you see news articles about hardworking black guys who still can't leave the ghetto.
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>>386684270
How have you played Tera and not know the masterbation race otherwise known as Elins?
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>>386684630
The tails were added later as a racist insult by Toriyama. Also later that night he came up with the character of Popo
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>>386684871
What's the difference?
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>Game has create-a-character
>It's garbage
>Can't make a character that resembles me
>Can't make a cute girl with brown or black skin because they never get the skin tones right.
>Only things that look good are the lighter complexions and the default characters.
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>>386684714
they murdered a whole fucking town and a whole fucking fort of people back then, which is what is called genocide before any of this back and forth even started in history. raping, murdering, slavers who murdered people based on their skin
>b..but indians
>>
>>386683978
>>386684871
>Sure we forcibly brought your ancestors over here, forced them into work, made them legally property, refused to give their posterity the basic rights we promised after they were no longer property, and refuse to treat you like equals, but if you don't like it why don't you just leave the country your family has been for centuries because we forced you to come here?
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>>386670253
Nah, I prefer if they don't. I tend to have a better time playing as a female.
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>>386685143
>They killed a whole town
>So we killed 90% of their population, and then forced the survivors off their land. Twice.
>If anything they're the real bad guys!
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>>386685050
The difference is I'm not implying they should stop complaining, I'm implying they should get out.
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>>386685214
I see nothing wrong with that quote, why wouldn't you leave a place you don't like?
Noone is forcing you to stay.
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>>386684871
>your mere presence is a nuisance to me and my taxes"
You don't pay taxes. No one who complains about muh taxes online has a job and probably lives at home or gets neet bux from the government.
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>>386684771
>You're right, we can't, so it's a shit argument.
We do know it broke my immersion.
>Depends entirely on the fiction.
So you aren't denying that it's not needed. Good.
>Again, you're shutting off a massive area of potential topics and themes here because of your arbitrary demand.
There's plenty to do in that area without bringing modern politics into it.
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>>386685308
Get out were? Their families have been living in America for over three centuries like literally every other American and their culture is not compatible with any African nation. Black Americans are also like 30% European, they shouldn't even be associated with Africans.
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>>386685401
They're American citizens too.

Why don't you leave if you don't like them?
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