>I don't want to play this anymore. Clicking on monsters

>>386649475
Yeah pick up a real MMORPG like elderscrolls online

He's a bitch nigga who can't appreciate Diablo clones.

>>386649624
but /v/ says ESO sucks

>should I play x genre that I dont enjoy?
gee OP i dunno

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>>386649651
How bout you form your own opinion you fucking sheep

>>386649651
ESO did suck. It's pretty worth it now.

>>386649734

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>game has almost 100+ dollars in DLC

>>386649723
Because it costs money you dipshit?

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>tfw totem danmaku builds

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gaming is pressing buttons to be better at pressing buttons
or pressing buttons to get a pixel reward of some kind
there's also horribly story somewhere in there
pick your poison

>>386649875
Are you fucking serious you poorfag piece of shit
i got this game for 15$ and ive literally spent hundreds of hours just chilling as coleader of a 66player guild
you're never gonna find a freetoplay game youll enjoy PERIOD

>me and bro roll wander and necro support
>day 1 level to 70
>day 2 get him his shavs and myou base gear. Kill atziri 50 times
>day 3 running tier 15 maps with any mods on them, wearing some of the best gear in the league

I mean I guess I'm done

>>386649475
You don't play PoE for the combat though

You understand this, right?

>>386650160
I'm not saying I don't want to pay. I'm saying I don't want to form my own opinion. If /v/ thinks something is good then I'll buy it.

>>386649734
>all solo challange removed through the game thanks to scaling
>zero progression
>b-but you can go everywhere and do just have fun now!!

No shill, TESO is absolute nu-MMO trash

This is just what happens for anyone without a particular degree of autism. They're great for playing through with each class once each time, but once you get into the loot grind aspect of it you're not playing it for the gameplay, story, or immersion anymore.

PoE has boring loot. That is the biggest problem.

>>386650924
>They're great for playing through with one class one time

ftfy


Playing through it with each """"class""""" is already severely autistic


>>386651113
>fight the new harbinger mobs in lv 79+ areas
>he drops a 1/20 of a chaos

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>>386649475
>Complete act 5 no problem
>Get to act 6
>Constantly die

Why did the Kiwis do this?

>>386650389
Honestly I just enjoyed seeing numbers go up as I got new shit. But we barely even played and I had fun playing co-op.

>>386649475
Diablo clones are the french fries of gaming. They provide basically instant gratifications and if you let yourself, you can just sit there for hours doing nothing but click on things and occasionally holding Shift

>>386649475
Making/theorycrafting new characters is the only reason why PoE is in any way fun. If you were playing it for the combat, you were missing the point to begin with.

>>386651242
>coop

You're meant to play solo, the game isn't balanced around group play

>not playing for jewing purposes
>not playing for autistic numbers min maxing simulator
>not playing for who has the most money dress up simulator
>>386651302
but that's shooters

>>386649475
>was my friend right?
Absolutely
>should i move on?
Depends, do you like clicking on monsters?

wow a fucking game in which you need to CLICK? wtf dude i'm can only watch qte's

>>386651407
At least you're playing against intelligent human opponents in shooters. ARPG opponents are just hoards of mindless small fry or damage sponges, none of which that really pose a threat

PoE thread?
PoE thread

>new unique blight gloves drop for me day 1
>while I'm fucking around with an old character in standard league
;_;

In other news my 715 tooltip DPS build can still clear kind of OK at level 65

>>386651235
>I only invested in damage and now that my resists are -30 I'm dying
>what the fuck GGG

>>386651807
>intelligent
>shooters

>>386650160
>I spent a lot of time on this game so it is worth a proportional amount of money.
When will this meme die? Do you not realize this dumb opinion encourages padding games with unnecessary shit and grinding?

>>386651912
>715 DPS at lvl 65
It's almost impressive. What kind of utter shit build is it, mate?

>>386651912
jesus wtf.

i was at over 1k at lvl 30. Currently sitting at 2.5k base, 6k whenconditions are met at lvl 50

ITT people think tool tip dps is accurate for any of the skills in game

>>386652097
>spent 3000 hours playing the game over years.
>some peoples hard work became endless entertainment
> not giving back to that

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>>386649475
>Having to click at all
>Not just having a bunch of "cast when damage taken" gems
You're playing it wrong.

>>386649475
game is addicting as fuck but he's right all you do is click on things to click on more things

>>386652698
>He thinks 715 tooltip DPS at 65 is acceptable regardless of weather or not it's accurate
Unless you're running some new ultra-meme build I haven't heard of, that's terrible.

>>386653216
Tooltip means nothing come the end of the day your actual dps could easily be 10x that

>playing outdated Diablo clones when Dark Souls exists

For what purpose? Autism?

>>386649475
That all video games.
You either enjoy the new content or you dont, thats it.

I'm really enjoying it so far but am not in part 2 yet.

>>386652698
>>386653216
>>386653473

What is this all about?
The games inaccurate?

>>386652878
>being a good goy and getting cucked like that
This is how people justify spending 10 bucks for each recolored skill effect and 40 bucks for a set of armor.

>>386652097
>this dumb opinion encourages padding games with unnecessary shit and grinding
What a dumb assertion. Did you ever stop to think that he wouldn't have spent 3k hours on the game if it consisted of "padding"?
In fact - the was majority of people wouldn't. Padding doesn't make people play the game for longer, it's there for marketing reasons, so publishers can legally advertise their game as being X hours long or having Y amount of content to push more copies. This has nothing to do with Path of Exile since the game lives and dies by it's core gameplay loop and fundamental character building mechanics, that's the main attraction and why some people are inclined to spend thousands of hours on it.

>>386653749
I'm a wander, I use the skill barrage. The tool tip dps doesn't take into account the 93% lightning penetration I have or the use of a diamond flask. Its also per projectile. So when my dps says it's 12k, it's actually closer to 600k

>>386650421
>solo challenged removed
>literally scaled to your level so the content is always relevant
>would rather have it so content is under your level and you can't do it anymore or its so insanely easy that there is no point

nice one my man

>>386653749
PoE tooltip doesn't account for additional factors like ability interactions, auras, buffs, charges, etc.

>>386653749
Well, you can have conditional damage multiplyers that are active most of the time/if not all that don't get shown in tooltip. Or the main bulk of your damage isn't directly from the skill itself, such as a coc build.

Also, some skills show average damage instead of DPS so skills like firestorm only show the damage of a single fireball.

>>386654017
There are a lot of skills that are still accurate, my ED is spot on with the exception of my 20% chaos pen aura

>>386653969
>>386653945
>>386654017

Oh okay.
That would explain on of my friends builds having wierd numbers.
I have just been running a minion necro and relaxing haha. I barely check my stat page or dps ever.

I think I need resistance though, the lack of multiple difficulties is making me forget

>>386654213
What about vulnerability and wither and if you used val lightning trap

>>386653860
Fine. It was poorly worded. My point is that an effect that emits a different kind of particle or is just one color value changed does not justify a price tag of 10 bucks. I can't believe people are actually buying this.

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>>386651303
pretty much this
if you wanted to do bossing for the last few patches you could roll chaos firestorm and genocide everything
if you wanted clearspeed, there were a shitload of builds with ridiculous clearspeed

>>386654420
Yeah people don't deserve to be paid for their labor right?

Why do everyones items have crazy coloring and stuff in screenshots?

Do I need to pay for that like premium tabs?

>>386653969
It will calculate it for heralds, auras and charges. Some gems won't modify it at all despite being a straight increase and it can't account for the fact that lightning pen is better than added lightning if you're already doing loads of lightning damage. Or that you'll be shocking enemies, or that you're running curses. It doesn't display DoT dps at all either

>>386654523
>They are a small indie studio that needs the money! I have to buy more "supporter" packs!
Fuck off. Their prices are beyond ridiculous.

>>386654669
You mean the cosmetic skins? Or sockets

>>386654669
https://github.com/NeverSinkDev/NeverSink-Filter/releases

>>386654858
I know about cosmetics and sockets and all the in game stuff I thought but this guys screen has the items named in a way I havent seen before.

I dont come here often

>>386654905
>start using this this league
>4 ex drops with no sound effects
No thanks

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>>386652104
>>386652321
ball lightning with faster casting, increased AoE, and knockback, in heirophant gloves for a total of 28 units of AoE

845 DPS with buffs up in path of building

apparently i'm actually level 67. at 68 I can fit a snakebite ring for +1 projectile

>>386651303
this. making builds is practically the whole game. the actual combat is more like a test to see how well you built your character. if all you do is look up the top build this patch and play through the game with it, you really aren't going to have much fun.
>>386654669
loot filters. they added them in a patch years ago. you dont have to pay for them.

>>386654952
It's a loot filter. They're used because end-game content has so much loot on the screen it becomes almost impossible to visually sort through it all.

>>386655003
Works on my machine

>>386654952
This guys picture I mean
>>386654512


>>386654952
huh, thats actually really cool and makes me feel retarded for not using it earlier. Does it work well for all characters? or are there specific ones for each class

>>386655003
>4 ex dropping for a single character within 4~ days
Not saying it can't happen, but I don't believe it.

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>>386655074
>>386655069
>end-game content has so much loot on the screen it becomes almost impossible to visually sort through it all
Yeah its a problem for sure.

Thanks for the info /v/

>>386655003
You sure its not just you m9?
Others seems to be good, but if your sure now Im not sure

>>386655005
>no life
>no damage
>no defense
What are you doing

>>386655163
>tfw almost 300 hours in the game and probably a hundred more before steam and not a single ex drop
I know that the Chinese farmers are siphoning my drop potential.

>>386649475
Yeah, I'd say so OP.

This is my 3rd year on it, I'm always on and off and now I feel entirely burnt out.

I'm not even level 50 on the new league, it's just the same shit

>there are people on /v/ right now that dont play ssf hc

>>386655163
>>386655163
Me and my necro support play at least 12 hours a day running maps back to back

>>386655431
>there are people on /v/ right now that dont play with friends

Its almost like games can be played for different reasons boy-o

>>386655284
knockback build

the majority of my remaining points will go into life and spell damage, when I clear merciless lab i get 10% damage taken from mana (on top of MoM I already have) and 30% of my max mana as ES (~700 or so)

So far i've been able to facetank all the new act bosses, actually grouped up with a new player running a pure evasion build, he must have died like 30 times to maligaro, I ended up running around spamming enduring cry waiting for him to respawn

also literally nothing can touch me unless it's knockback immune

I never knew Siosa sold gems, my options are crazy now, slightly overwhelmed, I have like 3 build ideas so far.

>>386655779
>I never knew siosa sold gems
he sells all quest rewards for all classes, but the gems are always level 1
town vendors sell gems scaled closer to the area level

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>>386655761

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>>386655449
I've literally done the same with a friend multiple leagues in a row since Bloodlines, I support and he murders screens. At least 4k+ hours into the game and at most have seen two and maybe a few Divines as well.

>>386655965
*Dropping within a day.

>>386655537
>play skinner box
>0 risk, no consequences for being shit
>only skill involved is watching 20 poetrade tabs at once
hahahaha

>>386655965
I mean we also 6L my queen of the forest, found his shavs and got 4 doryanni catalysts out of 10 atziri runs.

I typically consider my greatest skill to be luck

>>386656147
>i only play games for muh insane skill and challenge
>if you dont play ssf you have to use poetrade

Me and two others are just enjoying the new content and sharing loot we find along the way. poetrade can go suck a dick.

Oh wait I forgot, if people arent playing your way youd rather they fuck off, welp better not ever play PoE again and make sure everyone I know stays away since your club is more important to you than the survival of the games user base.

Theres definitely no way I would every move onto HC afterwards since I'm really enjoying it so far.

Faggot

>>386655132
just download it here. There's instructions on the site. Most PoE players use this filter.
it works well for every character; I'm not sure what you mean by that. You can level through every build with this filter on and be satisfied

>>386655132
>>386656832
helps if I post the link, right?
http://filterblade.xyz

>>386656486
woah dude

>armour and evasion are useless
>because those 2 stats are useless, the only useful "defence" is having as big a health pool as you can get and stacking passive regeneration or leech
>endgame is literally dodge or get 1-shot
>energy shield is just blue life right now, while also being able to reach higher values than lifebuilds could possibly hope for
>half the passive tree is illusion of choice
>same shit with gems, the more recent actives are just plain superior versions of older gems, and you always link them with as many supports with "more" modifiers you can, build variety my ass
>loot is fucking annoying, even in higher level zones you'll still see low level base items drop, and the pool of rollable affixes only gets bigger and bigger so finding a good item is frustrating as fuck
>some affixes are straight up useless
>the vast majority of uniques are useless garbage, but it's okay according to Chris "tardface" Wilson because "lol MtG" even though in Magic old cards get rotated out by the next block while in PoE we just get bloated drop tables where more than half of the unique drops you see are just pure dissapointment
>the developer team in general is retarded
>game is balanced around trade but trading is organised through a 3rd party website and prices are easily manipulated by the more kikeish players
>there a bunch of RWT trading sites around
>GGG themselves probably allow this and get a cut of the profits
>paid beta
I'm probably forgetting stuff

>>386657206
Saying evasion is useless confirms retardation

>>386657206
>Armor and evasion are useless

I can't even force myself to attempt to read the rest of this post

>>386657206
Dodge and Eva over 70 and life of only 5k is enough for anything. Trash won't 1 shot you and. Bosses won't hit you before dying

>>386657206
t. softcore player

>>386649475
If you don't want to play the game, anon, don't fucking play it. It's a game about grinding for gear so you can grind for more gear for other builds that then grind for more gear, and if you don't enjoy clicking monsters for hours on end then play something else. Stop looking for other people's approval for a reason to do what you want and just do what you want.

>>386649475
Yes. It's called growing out of video games.

>>386657206
Good criticisms. I don't agree with you on all points and I think you make a few exaggerations , but you also make good points.
I don't think armor/evasion is as useless as you describe. Life/ES is better, but armor/evasion is still effective mitigation.
I like the passive tree and it does offer real choices when it comes to keystones, but I agree that some nodes are more "mandatory" than others.
I don't see why you think the dev team is "retarded," I think GGG is pretty ideal when it comes to indie developers (especially in the F2P genre).
>paid beta
I recieved 5 keys for free during closed and open beta. They handed them out via lottos and you could also obtain them on the forums; lots of users had plenty to spare.

To give a counter-opinion, I think 3.0 is amazing. Admittedly, this is still the honeymoon phase, but PoE has become one of my favorite ARPGs I've ever played. You may not like my opinion here, but: I'm having more fun than I did in D2.

>>386657913
70 ev and Dodge lol yeah right that evasion requires gg gear and Dodge can only get to like 50 with corrupt gear

>>386658272
I'm having fun too, but I know it's a matter of time until I get bored of the same routine of levelling to maps and then spending half my play-time scouring poe.trade for reasonably priced items just to cap my resistances
And yea I exaggerated the armour/evasion thing, but as defenses they're really lacking, armour in particular
Evasion isn't very good because it only reduces on average the amount of hits that you take, but you still need that big health pool to avoid getting sent back to your hideout with a single hit

>>386649475

He was. Monster Hunter does it better. This diabloshit is outdated garbage for poors and kiddies.

>>386658671
You could try playing on HC. It's not for everyone, but I feel that it really ups the ante in terms of my interest. It comes with issues (lag death), but it's increased the longevity of the game for me. IMO, t's not completely artificial longevity, because it does change the way you play.
t: SSFHC @ Kitava scared fucking shitless

>>386649475
I'll never know why people still play these games, it's baffling, and I say this as a person that loved D2X. Imagine if Zelda's progression played out like this:
>Legend of Zelda comes out.
>Innovative game, an instant classic.
>A couple years later, A Link to the Past comes out.
>Everything is improved: it looks sharper, the gameplay is faster and smoother, there are more interesting tools and improved interaction. Hailed as one of the best games ever made, and enjoyed for literally decades.
>Nintendo does nothing with the franchise.
>OoT, MM, Windwaker, etc, none of these exist.
>Other companies attempted to emulate the timeless classic that is A Link to the Past, and can't quite nail it.
>Even former Nintendo employees attempt to recreate the magic of A Link to the Past, resulting in basically recooked versions of the same game.
>15 years later, Nintendo finally releases Zelda 3 -- it's just a graphical update of A Link to the Past with all of it's old shortcomings and problems intact.
>Sells literally 30m copies on nostalgia.
>Gameplay is same basic shit in a world full of Witchers, Dark Souls Bloodbornes, Skyrims, Niohs, Niers, etc.
>Boring as fuck, everyone opts out in a hurry.
>Player retention is 5% in a week, sub-1% in a month, and sub-0.1% in 4 months.
>Retarded Nintendo breakaway companies STILL trying to remake ALttP.

>>386657206
>armor and evasion useless
lol
>big EHP pool is good
fucking duh
>ES is blue life
what else is it supposed to be?
>ES can reach higher values than life builds
all sources of ES were nerfed by 50% in 3.0
>new gems better than old gems
kind of true, but if they weren't no one would want to use them, and this is why threshold jewels exist
>loot is annoying
get an item filter
>affixes are useless
which ones?
>most uniques are vendor trash
there are quite a few useless ones
>shitposting about business practices
I don't know what you're complaining about here. poe.trade is better than any system that could be built into the game.

>>386649475


If you find the animations of shit dying with neato particle effects and the sense of progression you get with each character then go for it, if you're not having fun, stop playing.

Don't have other people make decisions for you on personal stuff my man, do what you enjoy.

>>386659106
>>386658976
you need to be 18+ to post here

>>386659352
you need to be 18+ to post here

>>386659352
I played D2 on release, anon.
Did you?

>>386659106
this 100%..
Antiquated garbage that ws good 20yrs ago, but sucks shit compared to what's out there now.

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Whats the easiest beginner build?

>>386659106
>why people
I like autisically coming up with a build for my character.
I also enjoy the setting (lore is okayish, standard grimdark stuff).
Destroying mobs with a audibly/visually-satisfying blow feels visceral. I know it's just a mouse click, but it feels good to make shit explode.
I find the loot treadmill to be better than most games. It's very addicting.
I like the challenge of a hardcore playthrough.

>>386659961
SummonRagingSpirit or Sunder
As you play, you'll figure out that you don't have to follow guides exactly and you'll come up with your own direction for you character.
I'm using this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QDVvjkax6k
But my character is a Duelist (Slayer) and I favor life leech more heavily

Should i go for an Elementalist Firestorm
Bleed/Poison using Gladiator/Trickster
Inquisitor Lightning-Something?

I just tried playing an Infernal Blow build and i got to act 10, but i realized i had fucked up so god damn hard.

2,6k life, barely 3k armor, resistances around 50%, but i still somehow managed to not do enough damage to stay alive

>>386655005

>lvl 68

>2500 Life

>Resists not capped.

Theres your main problem. Kitava slams you for 3,3k damage in Act 10, you have to build more Life than that, or ES, or both until you cross the 3 000 treshold. And by the time you're lvl 68 you absolutely need to have 75% on all other resists, except Chaos.

If you have enough Orb of Regrets, start putting more points on Life- or ES nodes. Otherwise that build is fucked.

>Want to play Necromancer
>Have to deal with shitty enemy AI

>>386661036
Just play Golems

>>386660703
Trickster or Assassin i might add*

>>386660760
I mean his main problem is that he has 750 dps, his clear speed must be terrible. I beat Kitava with 1.4k health and died only a couple of times. But I did have capped resists and 20k+ Essence Drain dps.

>>386661036
>>Have to deal with shitty enemy AI

You mean with spectres? Just pick Flame Sentinels, they spam their fireballs constantly.

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ya know this game would be alot more fun if you autist stop using only 2 or 3 skills

>>386661261

> I beat Kitava with 1.4k health and died only a couple of times.

I mean Act 10 Kitava, not Act 5.

>>386661430
I'm talking about about act 10 Kitava, mate.

>>386649475

>spamming one skill and stacking as much attack speed as possible

I feel this is one of the few decent design decisions the vanilla D3 team made over PoE.

They saw how much of a problem attack speed would be so they nerfed it and gave skill use more variety over spamming just one skill button.

Makes the game a lot less boring to play than PoE.

>>386661631

>1.4k health
>lvl 68

Good luck on the maps. "Only dying a couple of times" means you hit a wall in them pretty soon.

>>386661838
Sure, my build is pretty shit and I have poorfag gear, but my point regarding what you said is that Kitava or the rest of the campaign content for that matter is piss easy to do and you don't *NEED* HP to complete it as long as your build deals damage and you dodge projectiles.

He's right, at least for Path of Exile. The attacks have no crunch, no viciousness. It's just boring.

>>386660703
No suggestions?

>>386662203

>but my point regarding what you said is that Kitava or the rest of the campaign content for that matter is piss easy to do and you don't *NEED* HP to complete it as long as your build deals damage and you dodge projectiles.

You absolutely need to start building them, "just dying a couple of times" per boss is not the kind of ideal playthrough you want to go with. Its not the end of the world if you're lacking in Life or resistances through most of the campaign content, but by the time you hit Act 10 Kitava you better have them sorted out because right after maps start, and those maps are going to get pretty fucking brutal with that little amount of health.

Same thing with Labyrinths, too low life and Merciless Labyrinth Izaro just one shots you with every single ability he has. You build those Life/ES nodes/gear so you can actually survive those one-shot abilities and have enough time to get back and heal yourself. With low health you have no such chance, you're just dead if it hits you.

>>386660760
i need better gear for resists but it hasn't been an issue so far
mind over matter gives me a massive EHP boost
>>386661261
my clear speed is garbage

Is life regen worth spending points on or will the healing be so small it's a waste?

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>>386649913

>danmaku Tornado Shot with Deadeye

>>386662770
Generally life regen is only good if you have absolutely no other way of regaining life. Life leech is better for actually surviving during fights.

>>386661394
using more than one attack/movement skill is inefficient (unless you're talking cast on crit/cast when channeling)

>>386662770
the only time you try and boost the fuck out of regen is Righteous Fire builds to counter the degen, otherwise just invest in leech

>>386650160
>you're never gonna find a freetoplay game youll enjoy PERIOD
so warframe, alien swarm, dota2, and GoldenEye Source. don't exist right?

>>386663131
>warframe
>free
>1 million years to get things if you don't pay out $$$$$
this is coming from someone with 727 hours in it

>>386663131
I agree with this guy:
>>386663342
Warframe is a particularly egregious case of F2P jewishness with Mobile game skinner box business practices like days-long wait timers included for the sole reason of extracting as much of the player's money as possible.
Shameless to the bone, can't be compared to PoE because the quality of PoE gameplay doesn't rest on micro-transactions.

>>386663342
This. Warframe is timegated garbage and its entire economy is based on someone having to waste their money on platinum.

>>386663863
oh I wasn't even comparing Warframe to PoE, I just am bitching about you have to spend assloads of hours farming resources to get things in Warframe, and the devs seem to make it harder to do so every patch. Fuck DE, fuck the Void rework that doubled the grind, and fuck Jewframe

>>386663342
>>1 million years to get things if you don't pay out $$$$$
warframes only take 3 days to build and a weapon is around 12 hours. nothing to really complain there if you want to shell out the cash then go ahead and get the micro transactions but they are never encouraged and if you use plat to speed up builds then you are playing the wrong game